No, not really. It's about whether a building in a historic district is actually historic. A White Castle or a Taco Bell in a historic district is "non-contributing" and can be demolished and replaced by a new building. An actual historic building is "contributing" and can not.

 

Is that small donut shop or whatever it is "contributing"?

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9858744,-83.0050157,3a,75y,169.86h,85.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqYjOY1LGMf6HNNU5pAPx0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

That used to be a very suburbanized, car-centric spot. Its current incarnation is much safer for pedestrians.

 

The section of High which "Goody Boy" is located isn't as "tower" happy as the rest of the Short North outside of the Jackson.  You have Skully's across the street, Standard and the new Food Hall as prime examples.  The rest of the buildings are max 2-4 stories and as was previously mentioned "contributing" structures.  What I would like to see happen is the city adding a 2-4 story parking deck on the flat lot next to Skully's.  It is going to be needed for the future and would be a wise investment imo.  This stems from the data provided at the parking summit which the parking director stated we are one of the cheapest cities in the nation to park.  It could easily be fronted with retail and blend seamlessly into the neighborhood.

 

A parking garage right on High is not going to happen, not unless the ground floor was retail space, and I suspect there would also be a push to build it so that apartments or other floors could be added on top at some point.  But a standalone parking garage on High is very unlikely, as it would represent a dead zone, something the neighborhood standards frown upon.

 

This section of High is also going to rapidly change over the next 5 years, I imagine.  The Yoga on High building already has redevelopment plans, and the church across the street had a multi-story proposal not long ago (not the church itself, but immediately around it).  There is still a lot of underutilized space between 3rd and 7th, including surface lots and single-story buildings.  Some of them may be contributing, but I think we'll see proposals that might incorporate the facades, but otherwise new buildings will go into these spots as well.

 

It would be a smart investment, that flat lot is what's contributing to the parking issues and it's not going to get better.  You could offer hourly parking options in a garage and currently that is not the plan for the parking plan.  Also they could build it with future plans for conversion along with retail frontage.  We have no "public" garages outside of the Hub in Short North and IMO it would alleviate a ton of the congestion.  Week days it could be used by construction workers and in the evening by patrons.

 

I agree more parking is needed, but don't discount the Joseph Garage, the garage that is currently being built on Lincoln Street behind Jeni's and I think the big garage that so many people forget about it the 800 space Goodale Street Garage by the convention center right by the cap.  However, people parking at that garage would have to walk a block to get to the south starting point of the Short North, god forbid the steps........I've lived in the Short North for 8 years, and in that time I've never had a dedicated parking space.  I've lived directly on High Street, and 2-3 block off in both Victorian Village and Italian Village, and have I always been able to park directly in front of my apartment(s), no, I have definitely had to walk a few blocks from time to time, but I've never not been able to actually find a space.  I think sometimes peoples perception of being able to access parking right where they want to is distorted.  You live in an extremely evolving dense neighborhood, you need to be willing to walk a bit.....just my opinion and experience though.....

 

 

I agree more parking is needed, but don't discount the Joseph Garage, the garage that is currently being built on Lincoln Street behind Jeni's and I think the big garage that so many people forget about it the 800 space Goodale Street Garage by the convention center right by the cap.  However, people parking at that garage would have to walk a block to get to the south starting point of the Short North, god forbid the steps........I've lived in the Short North for 8 years, and in that time I've never had a dedicated parking space.  I've lived directly on High Street, and 2-3 block off in both Victorian Village and Italian Village, and have I always been able to park directly in front of my apartment(s), no, I have definitely had to walk a few blocks from time to time, but I've never not been able to actually find a space.  I think sometimes peoples perception of being able to access parking right where they want to is distorted.  You live in an extremely evolving dense neighborhood, you need to be willing to walk a bit.....just my opinion and experience though.....

 

The three you mentioned in your response are too far for the businesses that I'm focusing on, but yes they have relieved the issues in the southern end of Short North.

 

I'm more concerned with parking for business and how that impacts the neighborhoods.  A garage is needed in the northern section, whether it be for the new food hall, Skully's, BrewDog or even Condado in that area.  Also this would take care of another seemingly useless flat parking lot.  A garage would make more sense in this area as it continues to grow.

 

 

I agree more parking is needed, but don't discount the Joseph Garage, the garage that is currently being built on Lincoln Street behind Jeni's and I think the big garage that so many people forget about it the 800 space Goodale Street Garage by the convention center right by the cap.  However, people parking at that garage would have to walk a block to get to the south starting point of the Short North, god forbid the steps........I've lived in the Short North for 8 years, and in that time I've never had a dedicated parking space.  I've lived directly on High Street, and 2-3 block off in both Victorian Village and Italian Village, and have I always been able to park directly in front of my apartment(s), no, I have definitely had to walk a few blocks from time to time, but I've never not been able to actually find a space.  I think sometimes peoples perception of being able to access parking right where they want to is distorted.  You live in an extremely evolving dense neighborhood, you need to be willing to walk a bit.....just my opinion and experience though.....

 

The three you mentioned in your response are too far for the businesses that I'm focusing on, but yes they have relieved the issues in the southern end of Short North.

 

I'm more concerned with parking for business and how that impacts the neighborhoods.  A garage is needed in the northern section, whether it be for the new food hall, Skully's, BrewDog or even Condado in that area.  Also this would take care of another seemingly useless flat parking lot.  A garage would make more sense in this area as it continues to grow.

I completely agree.  The North end of the Short North is about to develop out even more, as the Southern portion is nearing its "completion" to a degree.  I feel a parking garage will at some point be included.  Who knows what will come of the old Family Dollar site or the surface parking lot next to the Garden Theater as well.  I think as this end gains more momentum, we will see options proposed with developments.

 

I also feel that momentum is going to pour onto 5th Avenue, headed east towards Summit and 4th, and in the very long run all the way over into the newly developed Grant Park.

 

 

I agree more parking is needed, but don't discount the Joseph Garage, the garage that is currently being built on Lincoln Street behind Jeni's and I think the big garage that so many people forget about it the 800 space Goodale Street Garage by the convention center right by the cap.  However, people parking at that garage would have to walk a block to get to the south starting point of the Short North, god forbid the steps........I've lived in the Short North for 8 years, and in that time I've never had a dedicated parking space.  I've lived directly on High Street, and 2-3 block off in both Victorian Village and Italian Village, and have I always been able to park directly in front of my apartment(s), no, I have definitely had to walk a few blocks from time to time, but I've never not been able to actually find a space.  I think sometimes peoples perception of being able to access parking right where they want to is distorted.  You live in an extremely evolving dense neighborhood, you need to be willing to walk a bit.....just my opinion and experience though.....

 

The three you mentioned in your response are too far for the businesses that I'm focusing on, but yes they have relieved the issues in the southern end of Short North.

 

I'm more concerned with parking for business and how that impacts the neighborhoods.  A garage is needed in the northern section, whether it be for the new food hall, Skully's, BrewDog or even Condado in that area.  Also this would take care of another seemingly useless flat parking lot.  A garage would make more sense in this area as it continues to grow.

I completely agree.  The North end of the Short North is about to develop out even more, as the Southern portion is nearing its "completion" to a degree.  I feel a parking garage will at some point be included.  Who knows what will come of the old Family Dollar site or the surface parking lot next to the Garden Theater as well.  I think as this end gains more momentum, we will see options proposed with developments.

 

I also feel that momentum is going to pour onto 5th Avenue, headed east towards Summit and 4th, and in the very long run all the way over into the newly developed Grant Park.

 

It's misguided to think of a place as 'complete.' If Manhattan continues to have major new construction, no place is 'complete.' Who knows what could happen in Short North if it's allowed to.

No, not really. It's about whether a building in a historic district is actually historic. A White Castle or a Taco Bell in a historic district is "non-contributing" and can be demolished and replaced by a new building. An actual historic building is "contributing" and can not.

 

Is that small donut shop or whatever it is "contributing"?

 

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That used to be a very suburbanized, car-centric spot. Its current incarnation is much safer for pedestrians.

 

The section of High which "Goody Boy" is located isn't as "tower" happy as the rest of the Short North outside of the Jackson.  You have Skully's across the street, Standard and the new Food Hall as prime examples.  The rest of the buildings are max 2-4 stories and as was previously mentioned "contributing" structures.  What I would like to see happen is the city adding a 2-4 story parking deck on the flat lot next to Skully's.  It is going to be needed for the future and would be a wise investment imo.  This stems from the data provided at the parking summit which the parking director stated we are one of the cheapest cities in the nation to park.  It could easily be fronted with retail and blend seamlessly into the neighborhood.

 

A parking garage right on High is not going to happen, not unless the ground floor was retail space, and I suspect there would also be a push to build it so that apartments or other floors could be added on top at some point.  But a standalone parking garage on High is very unlikely, as it would represent a dead zone, something the neighborhood standards frown upon.

 

This section of High is also going to rapidly change over the next 5 years, I imagine.  The Yoga on High building already has redevelopment plans, and the church across the street had a multi-story proposal not long ago (not the church itself, but immediately around it).  There is still a lot of underutilized space between 3rd and 7th, including surface lots and single-story buildings.  Some of them may be contributing, but I think we'll see proposals that might incorporate the facades, but otherwise new buildings will go into these spots as well.

 

It would be a smart investment, that flat lot is what's contributing to the parking issues and it's not going to get better.  You could offer hourly parking options in a garage and currently that is not the plan for the parking plan.  Also they could build it with future plans for conversion along with retail frontage.  We have no "public" garages outside of the Hub in Short North and IMO it would alleviate a ton of the congestion.  Week days it could be used by construction workers and in the evening by patrons.

 

What about the lot(and the two homes) along Mt. Pleasant between 2nd and 3rd? that would fit a 125 by 200 foot garage. Four floors with a fifth on the roof would allow about 250 vehicles, another 50 with one level below ground. It would block the views of some of those apartment to the east but would have enough room to not be right against them. And the other side is basically parking.

 

There are little underutilized areas here and there where they should definitely put in public parking, and do it now before it is too late. Not necessarily on High but close enough to it.

 

And they need to relocate North Central or whatever it is at 1301 North High. There is no reason it has to be there, and that land is too valuable right on High and right across from a grocery store.

No, not really. It's about whether a building in a historic district is actually historic. A White Castle or a Taco Bell in a historic district is "non-contributing" and can be demolished and replaced by a new building. An actual historic building is "contributing" and can not.

 

Is that small donut shop or whatever it is "contributing"?

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9858744,-83.0050157,3a,75y,169.86h,85.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqYjOY1LGMf6HNNU5pAPx0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

That used to be a very suburbanized, car-centric spot. Its current incarnation is much safer for pedestrians.

 

The section of High which "Goody Boy" is located isn't as "tower" happy as the rest of the Short North outside of the Jackson.  You have Skully's across the street, Standard and the new Food Hall as prime examples.  The rest of the buildings are max 2-4 stories and as was previously mentioned "contributing" structures.  What I would like to see happen is the city adding a 2-4 story parking deck on the flat lot next to Skully's.  It is going to be needed for the future and would be a wise investment imo.  This stems from the data provided at the parking summit which the parking director stated we are one of the cheapest cities in the nation to park.  It could easily be fronted with retail and blend seamlessly into the neighborhood.

 

A parking garage right on High is not going to happen, not unless the ground floor was retail space, and I suspect there would also be a push to build it so that apartments or other floors could be added on top at some point.  But a standalone parking garage on High is very unlikely, as it would represent a dead zone, something the neighborhood standards frown upon.

 

This section of High is also going to rapidly change over the next 5 years, I imagine.  The Yoga on High building already has redevelopment plans, and the church across the street had a multi-story proposal not long ago (not the church itself, but immediately around it).  There is still a lot of underutilized space between 3rd and 7th, including surface lots and single-story buildings.  Some of them may be contributing, but I think we'll see proposals that might incorporate the facades, but otherwise new buildings will go into these spots as well.

 

It would be a smart investment, that flat lot is what's contributing to the parking issues and it's not going to get better.  You could offer hourly parking options in a garage and currently that is not the plan for the parking plan.  Also they could build it with future plans for conversion along with retail frontage.  We have no "public" garages outside of the Hub in Short North and IMO it would alleviate a ton of the congestion.  Week days it could be used by construction workers and in the evening by patrons.

 

What about the lot(and the two homes) along Mt. Pleasant between 2nd and 3rd? that would fit a 125 by 200 foot garage. Four floors with a fifth on the roof would allow about 250 vehicles, another 50 with one level below ground. It would block the views of some of those apartment to the east but would have enough room to not be right against them. And the other side is basically parking.

 

There are little underutilized areas here and there where they should definitely put in public parking, and do it now before it is too late. Not necessarily on High but close enough to it.

 

And they need to relocate North Central or whatever it is at 1301 North High. There is no reason it has to be there, and that land is too valuable right on High and right across from a grocery store.

 

Outside of tearing down the homes on 3rd that wouldn't be a terrible idea.  The other option is the post office on 4th, you could do ground floor retail(a replacement for the post office) and apartments lining Mt. Pleasant like they did at the Hub and plan on doing with the 711 N High phase two garage.

^^ Those homes are very nice cute little homes too. But I think it would be worth it. I wonder if they could be relocated?-they seem rather small? I don't really know how that works.

 

And yeah I thought about the Post Office site too, and what is that building that shows up as "Alpha Graphics" just to the north of Middle West Spirits? The two houses north of it are not exactly historic either. The purely residential nature of that street is compromised anyway by that building to the northeast and everything else around it except right up the street to the north. A full 125 by 200 foot garage could go there.

No, not really. It's about whether a building in a historic district is actually historic. A White Castle or a Taco Bell in a historic district is "non-contributing" and can be demolished and replaced by a new building. An actual historic building is "contributing" and can not.

 

Is that small donut shop or whatever it is "contributing"?

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9858744,-83.0050157,3a,75y,169.86h,85.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqYjOY1LGMf6HNNU5pAPx0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

That used to be a very suburbanized, car-centric spot. Its current incarnation is much safer for pedestrians.

 

The section of High which "Goody Boy" is located isn't as "tower" happy as the rest of the Short North outside of the Jackson.  You have Skully's across the street, Standard and the new Food Hall as prime examples.  The rest of the buildings are max 2-4 stories and as was previously mentioned "contributing" structures.  What I would like to see happen is the city adding a 2-4 story parking deck on the flat lot next to Skully's.  It is going to be needed for the future and would be a wise investment imo.  This stems from the data provided at the parking summit which the parking director stated we are one of the cheapest cities in the nation to park.  It could easily be fronted with retail and blend seamlessly into the neighborhood.

 

A parking garage right on High is not going to happen, not unless the ground floor was retail space, and I suspect there would also be a push to build it so that apartments or other floors could be added on top at some point.  But a standalone parking garage on High is very unlikely, as it would represent a dead zone, something the neighborhood standards frown upon.

 

This section of High is also going to rapidly change over the next 5 years, I imagine.  The Yoga on High building already has redevelopment plans, and the church across the street had a multi-story proposal not long ago (not the church itself, but immediately around it).  There is still a lot of underutilized space between 3rd and 7th, including surface lots and single-story buildings.  Some of them may be contributing, but I think we'll see proposals that might incorporate the facades, but otherwise new buildings will go into these spots as well.

 

It would be a smart investment, that flat lot is what's contributing to the parking issues and it's not going to get better.  You could offer hourly parking options in a garage and currently that is not the plan for the parking plan.  Also they could build it with future plans for conversion along with retail frontage.  We have no "public" garages outside of the Hub in Short North and IMO it would alleviate a ton of the congestion.  Week days it could be used by construction workers and in the evening by patrons.

 

There is virtually no future for the Short North in which parking is going to become any easier than it is right now, not without massive investment in public transit.  No doubt the developer that would build it would make money on it, but that's not really the point.  You're not going to build the neighborhood out of the parking problem by adding more car-centric infrastructure.  It doesn't work.  It just promotes more driving.  And it still wouldn't be allowed to happen directly on High even if someone was proposing it.

No, not really. It's about whether a building in a historic district is actually historic. A White Castle or a Taco Bell in a historic district is "non-contributing" and can be demolished and replaced by a new building. An actual historic building is "contributing" and can not.

 

Is that small donut shop or whatever it is "contributing"?

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9858744,-83.0050157,3a,75y,169.86h,85.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqYjOY1LGMf6HNNU5pAPx0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

That used to be a very suburbanized, car-centric spot. Its current incarnation is much safer for pedestrians.

 

The section of High which "Goody Boy" is located isn't as "tower" happy as the rest of the Short North outside of the Jackson.  You have Skully's across the street, Standard and the new Food Hall as prime examples.  The rest of the buildings are max 2-4 stories and as was previously mentioned "contributing" structures.  What I would like to see happen is the city adding a 2-4 story parking deck on the flat lot next to Skully's.  It is going to be needed for the future and would be a wise investment imo.  This stems from the data provided at the parking summit which the parking director stated we are one of the cheapest cities in the nation to park.  It could easily be fronted with retail and blend seamlessly into the neighborhood.

 

A parking garage right on High is not going to happen, not unless the ground floor was retail space, and I suspect there would also be a push to build it so that apartments or other floors could be added on top at some point.  But a standalone parking garage on High is very unlikely, as it would represent a dead zone, something the neighborhood standards frown upon.

 

This section of High is also going to rapidly change over the next 5 years, I imagine.  The Yoga on High building already has redevelopment plans, and the church across the street had a multi-story proposal not long ago (not the church itself, but immediately around it).  There is still a lot of underutilized space between 3rd and 7th, including surface lots and single-story buildings.  Some of them may be contributing, but I think we'll see proposals that might incorporate the facades, but otherwise new buildings will go into these spots as well.

 

It would be a smart investment, that flat lot is what's contributing to the parking issues and it's not going to get better.  You could offer hourly parking options in a garage and currently that is not the plan for the parking plan.  Also they could build it with future plans for conversion along with retail frontage.  We have no "public" garages outside of the Hub in Short North and IMO it would alleviate a ton of the congestion.  Week days it could be used by construction workers and in the evening by patrons.

 

There is virtually no future for the Short North in which parking is going to become any easier than it is right now, not without massive investment in public transit.  No doubt the developer that would build it would make money on it, but that's not really the point.  You're not going to build the neighborhood out of the parking problem by adding more car-centric infrastructure.  It doesn't work.  It just promotes more driving.  And it still wouldn't be allowed to happen directly on High even if someone was proposing it.

 

Ok well then what do you suggest?  It's a public lot already and that's why I suggested that space and make it so that it could be converted in the future.  Alternative transit options don't work for families coming from the suburbs or out of town.  A train will not solve or alleviate any of the problems either.  A garage would help for now and into the future in my opinion.

 

Ok well then what do you suggest?  It's a public lot already and that's why I suggested that space and make it so that it could be converted in the future.  Alternative transit options don't work for families coming from the suburbs or out of town.  A train will not solve or alleviate any of the problems either.  A garage would help for now and into the future in my opinion.

 

Why do you think urban neighborhoods should be built for suburbanites?  That is my first question.  There are park and rides all over the city, and taxis and ubers.  If suburbanites really wanted to come to the Short North, they can, even without endless parking options.  And why would you plan infrastructure in the city around an occasional visitor rather than people who actually live and work there?  It's just incorrect to think that a popular, dense urban neighborhood can also have abundant, easy and cheap parking.  It's just not going to happen, and trying to build with that expectation is only going to make the neighborhood have a bigger problem than the one you're trying to solve.  The Short North doesn't need more infrastructure for more cars that will only lead to yet more traffic.  It needs people to use every other means- walking, biking, taxis, buses.  Not everyone is going to like that, but they can go to Hilliard-Rome Road if they need a free parking lot in front of everywhere they want to go. 

 

Ok well then what do you suggest?  It's a public lot already and that's why I suggested that space and make it so that it could be converted in the future.  Alternative transit options don't work for families coming from the suburbs or out of town.  A train will not solve or alleviate any of the problems either.  A garage would help for now and into the future in my opinion.

 

Why do you think urban neighborhoods should be built for suburbanites?  That is my first question.  There are park and rides all over the city, and taxis and ubers.  If suburbanites really wanted to come to the Short North, they can, even without endless parking options.  And why would you plan infrastructure in the city around an occasional visitor rather than people who actually live and work there?  It's just incorrect to think that a popular, dense urban neighborhood can also have abundant, easy and cheap parking.  It's just not going to happen, and trying to build with that expectation is only going to make the neighborhood have a bigger problem than the one you're trying to solve.  The Short North doesn't need more infrastructure for more cars that will only lead to yet more traffic.  It needs people to use every other means- walking, biking, taxis, buses.  Not everyone is going to like that, but they can go to Hilliard-Rome Road if they need a free parking lot in front of everywhere they want to go. 

 

Just because they live in the burbs doesn't mean they don't want to come to work or play.  The lot there isn't free as is and I never suggested the one there be free.  Parking is going to be very limited here shortly and that is going to effect the businesses in the area and that's who I'm looking out for in my argument.  What I am saying is a train, bike, bus or Uber does not work for everyone and we do have to think of those folks because they are important to our neighborhoods businesses. Regardless of what you may be assuming there is a NEED for parking in the area which is why I suggested it.  Whether it be for workers or patrons, suburbanites or out of towners, there is a need for a structure in that area as it continues to grow.

 

During the parking summit meeting on Saturday the director of parking suggested a park and ride for workers in the short north.  Most people are not going to take an Uber to work, a bus or bike weather permitting would be a viable option, but again not for everyone.  The cost of rent and ownership in the areas that are close and even on a bus line is another. That suggests a need and I will continue if needed.

 

Ok well then what do you suggest?  It's a public lot already and that's why I suggested that space and make it so that it could be converted in the future.  Alternative transit options don't work for families coming from the suburbs or out of town.  A train will not solve or alleviate any of the problems either.  A garage would help for now and into the future in my opinion.

 

Why do you think urban neighborhoods should be built for suburbanites?  That is my first question.  There are park and rides all over the city, and taxis and ubers.  If suburbanites really wanted to come to the Short North, they can, even without endless parking options.  And why would you plan infrastructure in the city around an occasional visitor rather than people who actually live and work there?  It's just incorrect to think that a popular, dense urban neighborhood can also have abundant, easy and cheap parking.  It's just not going to happen, and trying to build with that expectation is only going to make the neighborhood have a bigger problem than the one you're trying to solve.  The Short North doesn't need more infrastructure for more cars that will only lead to yet more traffic.  It needs people to use every other means- walking, biking, taxis, buses.  Not everyone is going to like that, but they can go to Hilliard-Rome Road if they need a free parking lot in front of everywhere they want to go. 

 

I see what you are saying and agree with most of it, but a garage or two tucked onto an  already existing lot or mostly empty space or single story building is not going to hurt. There are going to be more people and yes, they are going to use more cars whether or not there are garages for them. I certainly don't want to see one right on High, but a couple more tucked away would help for those who want to have cars and live there or work there, and there are people who will be in the most urban environment possible and still insist on having or driving a car no matter what.

 

But the more people who don't drive means less congestion as they will not be on the road with those who insist on driving so those other things are very important as well. The problem is that High street is just not that wide of a street, and this is Central Ohio, where many many people will only let go of their cars when their cold dead hands are pried off the wheel.

 

I admit that I love the idea of public transit, but hate taking it in Columbus because every. single. time. there has been a probem so I avoid it like the plague. Very different experiences in places like NYC though. I must be cursed with Columbus transit.

 

Ok well then what do you suggest?  It's a public lot already and that's why I suggested that space and make it so that it could be converted in the future.  Alternative transit options don't work for families coming from the suburbs or out of town.  A train will not solve or alleviate any of the problems either.  A garage would help for now and into the future in my opinion.

 

Why do you think urban neighborhoods should be built for suburbanites?  That is my first question.  There are park and rides all over the city, and taxis and ubers.  If suburbanites really wanted to come to the Short North, they can, even without endless parking options.  And why would you plan infrastructure in the city around an occasional visitor rather than people who actually live and work there?  It's just incorrect to think that a popular, dense urban neighborhood can also have abundant, easy and cheap parking.  It's just not going to happen, and trying to build with that expectation is only going to make the neighborhood have a bigger problem than the one you're trying to solve.  The Short North doesn't need more infrastructure for more cars that will only lead to yet more traffic.  It needs people to use every other means- walking, biking, taxis, buses.  Not everyone is going to like that, but they can go to Hilliard-Rome Road if they need a free parking lot in front of everywhere they want to go. 

 

 

Half the time you end up walking further from your car to the door on Hillard-Rome than in the SN.

^Exactly. Walking from the Hubbard garage to the new Food Hall is the equivalent of walking from the Barnes and Noble in Easton to the Nordstrom - about 1/2 mile. It baffles me that people don't have an issue with the distance at Easton but complain when they cannot park directly in front of their destination in the Short North.

 

Ok well then what do you suggest?  It's a public lot already and that's why I suggested that space and make it so that it could be converted in the future.  Alternative transit options don't work for families coming from the suburbs or out of town.  A train will not solve or alleviate any of the problems either.  A garage would help for now and into the future in my opinion.

 

Why do you think urban neighborhoods should be built for suburbanites?  That is my first question.  There are park and rides all over the city, and taxis and ubers.  If suburbanites really wanted to come to the Short North, they can, even without endless parking options.  And why would you plan infrastructure in the city around an occasional visitor rather than people who actually live and work there?  It's just incorrect to think that a popular, dense urban neighborhood can also have abundant, easy and cheap parking.  It's just not going to happen, and trying to build with that expectation is only going to make the neighborhood have a bigger problem than the one you're trying to solve.  The Short North doesn't need more infrastructure for more cars that will only lead to yet more traffic.  It needs people to use every other means- walking, biking, taxis, buses.  Not everyone is going to like that, but they can go to Hilliard-Rome Road if they need a free parking lot in front of everywhere they want to go. 

 

 

Half the time you end up walking further from your car to the door on Hillard-Rome than in the SN.

 

It is a much less pleasant and interesting walk as well. The Walmart and Meijer lots are particularly ugly. And you can be accosted by addicts/beggars in those lots as well.

An aerial from Instagram:

 

That's a great shot.

A little add-on to show those skeptical folks that we have a ton of growth going on in our city  ;)

The City of Columbus High St. streetscape April 16 project update included the following regarding private project construction schedules. Demolition of the Grandveiw Mercantile building begins next week.

 

Private Development Project Updates

 

711 NORTH HIGH

 

Concrete trucks continue to be on site for concrete deck pours. The westernmost lane on High St. directly in front of the site remains closed during working hours. The existing scaffolding structure is expected to remain in place through July. Build-out is set for completion October 2018.

 

750 NORTH HIGH (Bollinger Tower)

 

Interior demolition activities are expected to start in April. Build-out is set for completion in June 2019. There are no traffic impacts at this time. Once demolition activities begin, some of the existing surface parking lot behind Bollinger Tower will no longer be available. Expect spaces to remain open for public parking until demolition activities begin.

 

800 NORTH HIGH (Moxy Hotel)

 

Foot traffic continues to be routed to a temporary walkway on the east side of High St. between Hull Alley and E. Hubbard Ave. In addition, on E. Hubbard Ave., foot traffic continues to be routed to a temporary walkway on the south side of the street between High Street and Pearl Street.

 

Two parking meters are unavailable on High St. north of Hull Aly. in addition to four parking meters on E. Hubbard Ave. Expect this to continue until build-out is finished. Construction is expected to be complete June 2019

 

On Monday: E. Hubbard Ave. will be closed between High St. and N. Pearl St. to vehicular traffic for two days for underground storm sewer installation. Follow detour signs to route around this area. Access to the Hubbard Ave. garage will remain available.

 

873 NORTH HIGH (Grandview Mercantile development)

 

New: Demolition of the existing building begins next week. This will take approximately two to three weeks to complete. During demolition, the sidewalk in front of the building will be closed to foot traffic. Pedestrians will be re-routed into a temporary walkway in the street. Expect meters in front of the site to be bagged and remained bagged through construction. Build-out is set for completion in May 2019.

 

900 NORTH HIGH (UDF development)

 

Build-out is set for completion in June. The parking lane on the east side of High St. is currently closed and a pedestrian walkway is in place on the east side of the street.

 

944 NORTH HIGH (The Brunner Building)

 

Build-out is set for completion in June. The parking lane on the east side of High St. is currently closed and will remain closed through June.

 

965 NORTH HIGH (The Castle)

 

Build-out is set for completion in July. Foot traffic is being routed around this site for the next few weeks during final construction activities leading into its opening. If you’re walking from the north, cross the street at the crosswalk south of Flower Child; if you’re walking from the south cross over to the east side of the street at W. Second Ave. to maneuver around.

Do we know if the Grandview Mercantile development will be using a tower crane?

^Isn't it a 4 story building now? I would think that's too short for a tower crane.

^Isn't it a 4 story building now? I would think that's too short for a tower crane.

 

I still wouldn't be shocked if they use one mainly because of how tight and expansive the site is at the same time.  The layout is actually similar to the High & Lane development and that got one.

^ I thought it was going to be six stories back off High Street a bit.

Grandview Merc started coming down today.

^ I thought it was going to be six stories back off High Street a bit.

The High St. building is four-story and the office building just off High is six.

A little add-on to show those skeptical folks that we have a ton of growth going on in our city  ;)

 

 

I was looking at that great pic and wondering just how all the new stuff would fit in.

Now get a little more creative and have a color or something for (should be filled in) parking lots, like the ones along and just off High in the Short North! ;)

 

It has gotten to where seeing a surface lot near High is disturbing to me lol.

 

*also you might squeeze in the 8 story building on Long, and the new convention center parking garage behind that hotel. And that does not even show the stuff that can't be shown like some of the Riversouth stuff and the 15 floor building to go up by the Holiday Inn. Lots to watch go up!

The UDF building has certainly been setting a great pace. Puts most others to shame.

Four Short North Developments Opening this Summer

https://www.columbusunderground.com/four-short-north-developments-opening-this-summer-bw1

 

Hubbard Park Place...With upscale finishes and amenities, the apartments are aimed squarely at the top of the market; a two-bedroom, 1,464-square-foot unit is priced at $4,450 a month

  ???

 

Four Short North Developments Opening this Summer

https://www.columbusunderground.com/four-short-north-developments-opening-this-summer-bw1

 

Hubbard Park Place...With upscale finishes and amenities, the apartments are aimed squarely at the top of the market; a two-bedroom, 1,464-square-foot unit is priced at $4,450 a month

  ???

 

 

Has GOT to be a typo because at that price, good luck!  That's almost double what the mortgage would be on a new build at the Jeffrey and 1,000 less sqft.

Four Short North Developments Opening this Summer

https://www.columbusunderground.com/four-short-north-developments-opening-this-summer-bw1

 

Hubbard Park Place...With upscale finishes and amenities, the apartments are aimed squarely at the top of the market; a two-bedroom, 1,464-square-foot unit is priced at $4,450 a month

  ???

 

 

Has GOT to be a typo because at that price, good luck!  That's almost double what the mortgage would be on a new build at the Jeffrey and 1,000 less sqft.

 

Their website says $3,300 I think. Was looking at it the other day. And they had a cheaper option I thought.

 

*Edit. They do have a two bedroom for $4,450. Not sure why it's so much more than the $3,300 two bedroom.

Latest Design for Bollinger Tower Hotel Approved

 

 

The Italian Village Commission approved the latest design for the renovation of Bollinger Tower last night, clearing the way for the 11-story building to be converted into a hotel with a two-story addition in front.

 

The project has been through numerous iterations since the Columbus Metropolitan Housing Authority first agreed to sell the building, located at 750 N. High St., in early 2016. Residents were offered vouchers to move to affordable housing elsewhere, and by mid-2017 all of the nearly one hundred former residents had moved out of the building.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/latest-design-for-bollinger-tower-hotel-approved-bw1

 

Four Short North Developments Opening this Summer

https://www.columbusunderground.com/four-short-north-developments-opening-this-summer-bw1

 

Hubbard Park Place...With upscale finishes and amenities, the apartments are aimed squarely at the top of the market; a two-bedroom, 1,464-square-foot unit is priced at $4,450 a month

  ???

 

 

Has GOT to be a typo because at that price, good luck!  That's almost double what the mortgage would be on a new build at the Jeffrey and 1,000 less sqft.

 

Their website says $3,300 I think. Was looking at it the other day. And they had a cheaper option I thought.

 

*Edit. They do have a two bedroom for $4,450. Not sure why it's so much more than the $3,300 two bedroom.

 

I had to see for myself and my guess would be penthouse and that those are VERY limited like maybe 2-4 units in total.

Latest Design for Bollinger Tower Hotel Approved

 

 

The Italian Village Commission approved the latest design for the renovation of Bollinger Tower last night, clearing the way for the 11-story building to be converted into a hotel with a two-story addition in front.

 

The project has been through numerous iterations since the Columbus Metropolitan Housing Authority first agreed to sell the building, located at 750 N. High St., in early 2016. Residents were offered vouchers to move to affordable housing elsewhere, and by mid-2017 all of the nearly one hundred former residents had moved out of the building.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/latest-design-for-bollinger-tower-hotel-approved-bw1

 

 

About time!!

So I know they are going to be doing a 2nd floor restaurant/bar which is clear from the renderings however the new overall rendering shows all this glass on the top of the building, that currently does not exist in any form, which would almost suggest adding a floor and by my count I'm seeing 12 floors on this view, and could be a true roof top location for a restaurant/bar.  Anyone else know anything about this possibility based on this pic?

Wow...pleasantly surprised Bollinger was approved without a pedestrian plaza. It will be nice to have a street wall along High once this is completed.

So I know they are going to be doing a 2nd floor restaurant/bar which is clear from the renderings however the new overall rendering shows all this glass on the top of the building, that currently does not exist in any form, which would almost suggest adding a floor and by my count I'm seeing 12 floors on this view, and could be a true roof top location for a restaurant/bar.  Anyone else know anything about this possibility based on this pic?

 

I don't think you're far off, more than likely a restaurant or event space.

So I know they are going to be doing a 2nd floor restaurant/bar which is clear from the renderings however the new overall rendering shows all this glass on the top of the building, that currently does not exist in any form, which would almost suggest adding a floor and by my count I'm seeing 12 floors on this view, and could be a true roof top location for a restaurant/bar.  Anyone else know anything about this possibility based on this pic?

 

I don't think you're far off, more than likely a restaurant or event space.

A rooftop bar was proposed on top of the 12 story tower. In March the IV Commission was concerned about that bar. Maybe that program item has changed? They were OK with the rooftop spaces on the new, lower addition. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/03/21/italian-village-commission-sees-updated-plans-for.html

Parkside on Pearl is back with a revised design, and with increased density - 65 units up from the previously proposed 47

 

I actually like this design better (minus the IMHO unnecessary building signage), and the new renderings also show how it relates to the neighboring Moxy Hotel/office project under construction on the Haiku site,

 

https://www.columbusunderground.com/parkside-on-pearl-proposal-brought-back-to-italian-village-commission-bw1

 

 

Those are really nice renderings. I agree that this is a great improvement over the previously approved design. I like the signage though. Wish they'd have actual balconies facing the park though. They seem to be Highpoint (gasp!) type "balconies".

 

*Edit. Also, according to the Short North Design Guidelines map, this is in the Short North.

The street frontage part where the green space was does seem to connect the building to the street and makes it less of a "Lane Avenue high rise" type of a look. And the rooftop space on the 12th floor would be an great thing. The views! :)

 

*re: the rooftop space...DO IT! If some drunk does happen to tumble over the side it will be their own stupid fault!

An improvement and will go very well both with the Moxy and the Hub. Love the rooftop space and the higher density/smaller unit/hopefully a bit smaller price units. That it was delayed so long was a blessing in disguise.

They can't sue you if they're drunk!

They can't sue you if they're drunk!

 

Well if they fall off of a balcony on the 12 story, they won't be able to sue you because they are dead. But those pesky relatives are a different story(no pun intended).

A cool painted sign on the side of the Rossi.

I was taking my dog for a walk after work yesterday and took this shot of the UDF development from where the Grandview Mercantile building was just leveled for the new Pizzuti project.  I actually really have liked the UDF building as there is variation a bit to it, not just one plain box building.  There are set backs and what not.  It will be nice to have a quick and easy convenience stop again once UDF re-opens.  In the distance, you can also see the White Castle building coming along.

Some renderings of the currently under construction streetscape projects through the Short North. Some have renderings of completed buildings that are currently under construction.

 

 

 

 

 

Here is an overhead rendering with certain private projects outlined as well. A good sense of all (some) that is going on in the Short North.

 

 

 

I was walking to a friends cookout the other evening and snapped a few updated photos of the Short North construction.  Obviously a lot of different things going on all at once, will be amazing in about a year when so much of this end is finished and just smooth to move through.  I will say the sidewalks they are building and the bump outs are huge!!  I'm really looking forward to a more pedestrian friendly High Street!!

Quick update on 711 N High while stuck in this afternoon's traffic. Moving right along...

 

Huge upgrade and much need additional square footage to Union Café!!!!

https://www.columbusunderground.com/major-addition-proposed-for-union-cafe-bw1

Yeah, that's a definite plus.