May 15, 200916 yr Carl loves to pick on things at the WSM. It's like hey carl, how about finding someone new to pick on?
May 15, 200916 yr Also 19 News is located right downtown on E.12th St. I think it's more than fair for them to do more reporting outside their window. EDIT: on that same note...I am VERY nervous about what restaurants they name/show! http://www.woio.com/global/story.asp?s=10356010
May 15, 200916 yr Her "excuse", "nobody's going to come all the way to the back yard to take the car or her purse as it's too far from the street and people just don't walk up and down the street, here." My boss has gotten her purse stolen TWICE when she has left it in her car to go to a concert "because she didn't want to carry it." BOTH TIMES she had her actual SS card in it. You know what a PITA it is to get a new SS card? Yeah, but even after one lesson, she didn't learn. As my father used to say, "Sometimes you have to hit the dumb ones twice." That's what I told her. Theses days criminals are looking for 'nabes like this. Most of the homes on our block are set back from the street and the situated far away from each neighbor. We can't see either of the neighbors unless we're upstairs looking out. I reminded her of the previous break in and how nobody saw a thing. That's just exactly what the thieves are hoping she'll think. It's nice of her to comply, it makes their jobs so much easier. Some people think because they live in the 'burbs they are safe. I watched my mom, aunts and cousins at Beachwood. They got out of the car not even paying attention to their surroundings. If I notice it, I know criminal's are watching. And it wasn't just them. My aunt get out the car in a big fur, big purse, etc. Other ladies were parking and just getting out the cars and some were coming to their cars with bags. They just set the bags down and open the door, put the key in the ignition then pop the trunk, put the bag in, but you leave the door open. I did notice a guy walking around the parking lot. I'm like he's pretending he lost his car and scoping out the ladies. This is the afternoon, most men aren't at Beachwood during the day. I've also watched women put their bags on the back of their chair at a restaurant or bar.
June 23, 200915 yr The Plain Dealer gets first place honors in Ohio Excellence in Journalism Awards Tuesday, June 23, 2009 More at Cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/124574585767390.xml&coll=2
June 23, 200915 yr Too bad there was not a "you need a bitch slap" category, which they would have won based on merchandise mart coverage.
June 29, 200915 yr PD targeting audience growth with web initiatives More collaboration, product development next for paper By KATHY AMES CARR 4:30 am, June 29, 2009 The Plain Dealer is turning another page in its 167-year history, one that president and publisher Terrance C.Z. Egger hopes is punctuated with more print and online audience growth, now that the newspaper has settled some staffing issues with nonunion and union employees. Mr. Egger and PD editor Susan Goldberg said they are focused on building the news organization's online offerings through Cleveland .com in order to augment the news-paper, which is undergoing an incremental redesign to incorporate more stories and headlines as editions get tighter. The print edition now is promoting on its front page that it is “read by 1,305,203 in print and online each week.” More from Crains: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20090629/SUB1/306299984
June 29, 200915 yr While the newspaper industry has not yet figured out a profitable business model that subsidizes the expensive print product with online, Mr. Smith said he believes, ultimately, people will need to pay for accurate, reliable news. “How you get there is the question,” he said. I thought this was an interesting point. I actually like the fact that the PD is embracing the internet more, and I believe publications should/will have to more and more. The thing is, though .. JUST REPORT THE NEWS. Don't give me gimmicks. Don't give me editorializing in your articles. Just give me the effing news! That's all I care about, personally .. and I would gladly pay for it. But why should I pay for it if it's given to me for free online! Not only that, but I'm also not paying for print, which is more environmentally friendly, which is very important to me.
July 24, 200915 yr An interesting little shout out at the PD from the Cleveland Leader: http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/10759 PD Wants to Profit From Cleveland's Carcass Submitted by Roldo Bartimole on July 24, 2009 - 9:58am. Cleveland/Cuyahoga County The Plain Dealer should desist and apologize for trying to lure city employees to the suburbs. The PD has put out a “Dear Mayor or Community Director” letter seeking ads that will lure city employees, now free from the residency law, to the suburbs. The Pee Dee’s stake in this attempt to migrate city residents to the suburbs: advertising. Here’s what the pitch says: “On Thursday, June 11, 2009, the Plain Dealer reported on the end of the Cleveland Residency Rule for the City of Cleveland city workers. The end of the residency rule means that city workers can move to the suburbs immediately. “These workers are heavily concentrated in the zip code 44111, West Park. “This is a great opportunity for suburbs like yours to specifically market to these residents with stable jobs and growing families, to consider your city as an option for relocation.” Mayor Frank Jackson should immediately call upon the PD to stop this campaign to remove Cleveland residents to the suburbs. What kind of Regionalism – which the PD constantly says we need – is this? The plea asks for internet ads that will help lure people from the city. Under “DETAILS OF THE PROGRAM” the PD offers a direct mail portion, stating “8 by 10 full color postcard, delivered to 6,606 residents of 44111 who earn at least $40K in income.” For an Internet portion, the PD offers “Banner ads delivered to the real estate homepage and the city section of Cleveland.com. with 25,000 impressions and ads that will remain “live for 30 days.” The cost, according to the Plain Dealer, $4,500. So for a campaign for $4,500 the PD will sell out the city of Cleveland. Great people. For more information call, Misty Pennock at 216 970-5928. Or maybe contact Publisher Terry Egger at 999-4216 or Editor Susan Goldberg at 999-4123 and tell them of your pleasure or displeasure at the PD trying to help carve up what’s left of the carcass we called Cleveland.
July 24, 200915 yr Indisputable truth that the PD is anti-Cleveland. EDIT: OH DEAR GOD, I AGREE WITH ROLDO! I'll just say it is so obvious, that everyone would agree
July 24, 200915 yr Indisputable truth that the PD is anti-Cleveland. EDIT: OH DEAR GOD, I AGREE WITH ROLDO! I'll just say it is so obvious, that everyone would agree They've done something over here by me as well.
July 24, 200915 yr Wow. Why the f*ck would they spend $4500 on something like this when they're in such a terrible financial position, aside from the fact that's a terrible thing to do to the city.
July 24, 200915 yr F*cking pathetic PD! Im glad we cancelled our PD almost 6 months ago now and told them straight up the reasons for cancelling. EDIT - Please please let the powers above put this pathetic waste of a news source out of business.
July 24, 200915 yr The PD had editorialized *against* recinding the Cleveland residency requirements, IIRC.
July 24, 200915 yr Does anybody have the email address of the editor and publisher? A quick look at the PD's site http://www.plaindealer.com/contact/index.php http://www.plaindealer.com/contact/contact_edit.php
July 24, 200915 yr This is the latest add to the story... Doesn't mean that I'm still not about to grill them over it. This is the single worst thing I could ever possibly imagine a "news" agency doing. Editor Susan Goldberg of the Plain Dealer call to say that the attempt to lure resident out of Cleveland by an “over aggressive” salesperson was sent to only one mayor – in Rocky River and has been stopped. Ms. Goldberg said that it was an “error in judgment” and that the PD yesterday apologized to Mayor Frank Jackson of Cleveland. Goldberg said that this had been “nipped in the bud” and “not part of the philosophy or strategy” of the Plain Dealer.
July 24, 200915 yr This is the latest add to the story... Doesn't mean that I'm still not about to grill them over it. This is the single worst thing I could ever possibly imagine a "news" agency doing. Editor Susan Goldberg of the Plain Dealer call to say that the attempt to lure resident out of Cleveland by an “over aggressive” salesperson was sent to only one mayor – in Rocky River and has been stopped. Ms. Goldberg said that it was an “error in judgment” and that the PD yesterday apologized to Mayor Frank Jackson of Cleveland. Goldberg said that this had been “nipped in the bud” and “not part of the philosophy or strategy” of the Plain Dealer. Yeah, it's called they got called out!
July 24, 200915 yr This is the latest add to the story... Doesn't mean that I'm still not about to grill them over it. This is the single worst thing I could ever possibly imagine a "news" agency doing. Editor Susan Goldberg of the Plain Dealer call to say that the attempt to lure resident out of Cleveland by an “over aggressive” salesperson was sent to only one mayor – in Rocky River and has been stopped. Ms. Goldberg said that it was an “error in judgment” and that the PD yesterday apologized to Mayor Frank Jackson of Cleveland. Goldberg said that this had been “nipped in the bud” and “not part of the philosophy or strategy” of the Plain Dealer.
July 24, 200915 yr As I sit fuming more and more... this isn't just about an "over agressive salesperson" (who absolutely should lose their job)... I mean some a-hole approved this. Some rank and file sales person can't just send something like that out without approval from someone higher up. Heads should roll over this.
July 24, 200915 yr As I sit fuming more and more... this isn't just about an "over agressive salesperson" (who absolutely should lose their job)... I mean some a-hole approved this. Some rank and file sales person can't just send something like that out without approval from someone higher up. Heads should roll over this. Thats exactly what I was thinking. Thats like me saying, "I don't think we should do another HP movie and I wont support it with WW marketing", only to have it picked up by another studio. I would be "removed" from my position.
July 24, 200915 yr Time to stoop to the PDs level :whip: Lets get after the advertisers they have now. Send them this article and say that if you advertise in this paper, we assume that you are also as anti-Cleveland as the paper and you will no longer have our patronage. Time to put this rag out of business, unless the publisher and editors are fired.
July 24, 200915 yr Time to stoop to the PDs level :whip: Lets get after the advertisers they have now. Send them this article and say that if you advertise in this paper, we assume that you are also as anti-Cleveland as the paper and you will no longer have our patronage. Time to put this rag out of business, unless the publisher and editors are fired. Start us out with a viral letter.
July 24, 200915 yr Time to stoop to the PDs level :whip: Lets get after the advertisers they have now. Send them this article and say that if you advertise in this paper, we assume that you are also as anti-Cleveland as the paper and you will no longer have our patronage. Time to put this rag out of business, unless the publisher and editors are fired. I'm with ya! Let's get this letter together!
July 24, 200915 yr This is what i posted to my facebook wall and made my current status, along with attaching the link to the above article: So anybody who has a subscription with the Cleveland Plain Dealer i highly suggest reading this article and then cancelling your subscription immediately. Tell them exactly why you are cancelling as well. Why is the Cleveland newspaper this blatant and anti-Cleveland that is telling suburbs to advertise in the Cleveland paper about why their city is better than the city of Cleveland?
July 24, 200915 yr Time to stoop to the PDs level :whip: Lets get after the advertisers they have now. Send them this article and say that if you advertise in this paper, we assume that you are also as anti-Cleveland as the paper and you will no longer have our patronage. Time to put this rag out of business, unless the publisher and editors are fired. Start us out with a viral letter. Dude, have ever read my posts? I can barely spell. Im thinking the cool journalistic style of a KJP with a dash of your flair and DocBroc's fumes could put together a compelling letter
July 24, 200915 yr Editor Susan Goldberg of the Plain Dealer call to say that the attempt to lure resident out of Cleveland by an “over aggressive” salesperson was sent to only one mayor – in Rocky River and has been stopped. I call bullshit as well, not to mention scapegoating and making a poor sales person take the blame for what was OBVIOUSLY approved by someone or many people in higher up positions.
July 24, 200915 yr Time to stoop to the PDs level :whip: Lets get after the advertisers they have now. Send them this article and say that if you advertise in this paper, we assume that you are also as anti-Cleveland as the paper and you will no longer have our patronage. Time to put this rag out of business, unless the publisher and editors are fired. Start us out with a viral letter. Dude, have ever read my posts? I can barely spell. Im thinking the cool journalistic style of a KJP with a dash of your flair and DocBroc's fumes could put together a compelling letter What kind of scent would you like? Burnt rubber, rotten eggs, dead fish???
July 24, 200915 yr Martin J. Keane is the councilman. His email is [email protected]. I just emailed him too.
July 24, 200915 yr Dear Ms. Goldberg, For some time now, I have been gravely concerned with The Plain Dealer's seemingly slanted coverage within the city of Cleveland, coverage that quite frankly diminishes the great work that is taking place to transform this city into the amazing place that it can very well be. This, coupled with the strange absence of "Cleveland" from the newspaper's masthead and the general lack of staff reporters and editorial writers residing within the city, has led myself and many other residents to question the newspaper's dedication to its hometown. Over the past few months, however, I have been happy to see what seems to be a more fair and balanced tone within both the news and editorial coverage of the paper and an expansion in the number of stories that report positive aspects of our community, rather than solely focusing on dour population estimates. For the first time in years, I've been considering a subscription. But today's story in The Cleveland Leader has effectively canceled out what I saw as signfiicant improvements within the newspaper. Seeking to actively profit from an out-migration of Cleveland residents is, without need for further explanation, deplorable. I cannot think of a time within my 7 years of residing in this city that I have been more disappointed with a major Cleveland institution than I currently am with The Plain Dealer. I appreciate that the newspaper quickly released a statement announcing an end to the campaign, but had this not been written about in a competing media outlet, I wonder whether this policy would have been enacted. I am not seeking to vilify The Plain Dealer, nor do I hope to see the newspaper fold. But I cannot support a media outlet that fails to provide a level of integrity to its coverage and practices, and this integrity extends to the newspaper's role as a good citizen to its home city. Please refrain from similar advertising schemes in the future; consider adding the name of the city back into your masthead; increase fact-checking to ensure that quotes like "Cleveland, one of the nation's poorest cities" do not make their way into unrelated articles; and balance the writing staff, particularly editorial writers, with young individuals living, working and innovating within the city proper. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, 8ShadesofGray
July 24, 200915 yr Wow ... quick reply ... and definitely not a form letter. I definitely am impressed by the response time, but "not correct criticism" is an interesting choice of words. Wait a minute....That is really not correct criticism. The moment our publisher found out about this yesterday — before one word of this was in any news outlet — he put a stop to it. The fact is, the letter was written by an eager advertising sales representative and sent to one person. It was obviously ill-advised, does not represent the views or editorial positions of The Plain Dealer and has been apologized for repeatedly and profusely. s.
July 24, 200915 yr That is horrible, horrible. I'll send them a nice letter when I'm in Cleveland in a few days.
July 25, 200915 yr I'll play devil's advocate and say you guys are overreacting a little. I understand the harmful implications of these kinds of ads and overall negative slant, but people here are being a little too sensitive and dramatic. The PD f'd up, they acknowledged it, they are making amends, and that's that. Harping on this kind of stuff isn't helpful and just further builds this overall negative vibe. Has anyone here even read these actual articles in their primary forms or was the cleveland.com blurb where we first heard of it?
July 25, 200915 yr I'll play devil's advocate and say you guys are overreacting a little. I understand the harmful implications of these kinds of ads and overall negative slant, but people here are being a little too sensitive and dramatic. The PD f'd up, they acknowledged it, they are making amends, and that's that. Harping on this kind of stuff isn't helpful and just further builds this overall negative vibe. Has anyone here even read these actual articles in their primary forms or was the cleveland.com blurb where we first heard of it? Show me where they acknowledge this publicly. thanks.
July 25, 200915 yr .....Editor Susan Goldberg of the Plain Dealer call to say that the attempt to lure resident out of Cleveland by an “over aggressive” salesperson was sent to only one mayor – in Rocky River and has been stopped. Ms. Goldberg said that it was an “error in judgment” and that the PD yesterday apologized to Mayor Frank Jackson of Cleveland. Goldberg said that this had been “nipped in the bud” and “not part of the philosophy or strategy” of the Plain Dealer....... What else are they supposed to after the fact? A mistake happened and they rectified it. It's essentially a retraction and I don't see what else they can do beyond the 'they should have never done it in the first place', which isn't really an option at this point.
July 25, 200915 yr Plain Dealer publisher stops salesperson's advertising plan Posted by Mark Puente / Plain Dealer Reporter July 24, 2009 19:48PM An effort by a Plain Dealer salesperson to start a campaign aimed at persuading city of Cleveland employees to move from the city to the suburbs was scrapped the day the publisher learned of it. Post edited 9-4-09 to comply with terms of use http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/07/plain_dealer_publisher_stops_s.html
July 25, 200915 yr What else are they supposed to after the fact? A mistake happened and they rectified it. It's essentially a retraction and I don't see what else they can do beyond the 'they should have never done it in the first place', which isn't really an option at this point. Perhaps they could put "Cleveland" back on their masthead. Or promise to review their policies on inserting digs in on the city at any chance. Or anything to let the Clevelanders know that the PD is committed to serving the people of the city, instead of being out to harm the city. Instead this rings of, "oops, you caught us so we'll stop".
July 25, 200915 yr Dear Ms. Goldberg, For some time now, I have been gravely concerned with The Plain Dealer's seemingly slanted coverage within the city of Cleveland, coverage that quite frankly diminishes the great work that is taking place to transform this city into the amazing place that it can very well be. This, coupled with the strange absence of "Cleveland" from the newspaper's masthead and the general lack of staff reporters and editorial writers residing within the city, has led myself and many other residents to question the newspaper's dedication to its hometown. Over the past few months, however, I have been happy to see what seems to be a more fair and balanced tone within both the news and editorial coverage of the paper and an expansion in the number of stories that report positive aspects of our community, rather than solely focusing on dour population estimates. For the first time in years, I've been considering a subscription. But today's story in The Cleveland Leader has effectively canceled out what I saw as signfiicant improvements within the newspaper. Seeking to actively profit from an out-migration of Cleveland residents is, without need for further explanation, deplorable. I cannot think of a time within my 7 years of residing in this city that I have been more disappointed with a major Cleveland institution than I currently am with The Plain Dealer. I appreciate that the newspaper quickly released a statement announcing an end to the campaign, but had this not been written about in a competing media outlet, I wonder whether this policy would have been enacted. I am not seeking to vilify The Plain Dealer, nor do I hope to see the newspaper fold. But I cannot support a media outlet that fails to provide a level of integrity to its coverage and practices, and this integrity extends to the newspaper's role as a good citizen to its home city. Please refrain from similar advertising schemes in the future; consider adding the name of the city back into your masthead; increase fact-checking to ensure that quotes like "Cleveland, one of the nation's poorest cities" do not make their way into unrelated articles; and balance the writing staff, particularly editorial writers, with young individuals living, working and innovating within the city proper. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, 8ShadesofGray Sums it up well.. I just caught this story. I am a bit behind on the comments...But all I can say is that when in a day and age such a paper should be promoting the opposite trend...this promotes archaic outmigration habits of the past. You cannot 'be green' if this happens. All I can say is that I have absolutely had it with this garbage publication. Shameful... Let the editor have it in every way to let them know why. And as someone else said...stop with the editorializing. I do that a lot and it annoys the hell out of people... But I am not a publication. like this, who's duty is to be investigative, cover facts and all sides to issues...and balance to cover some of the good things happening---not the same old same old story, that does nothing but to help foster and maintain the N.E. Ohio inferiority complex.
July 28, 200915 yr Layoffs announced today at WCPN/ideastream and Sun Newspapers. http://www.wcpn.org/WCPN/news/27262/
July 28, 200915 yr Quality of product and profitability have nothing to do with each other, unfortunately.
July 28, 200915 yr Quality of product and profitability have nothing to do with each other, unfortunately. However, if we had a paper and holding company that believed in the hiring of quality people* in addition to the production/publishing of quality products, we might not have the layoffs. * not everyone employed by the paper is a bad writer/reporter/journalist but there is not true leadership or executive management.
July 29, 200915 yr The ideastream layoffs were, I believe, related solely to the state budget cuts. I would expect to see similar fallout in a wide range of industries, from those receiving direct state payments to those receiving state contracts to those who provide support services to government workers. But it could be worse ... Ohio's 2010 budget gap was 4.8%; California's was 35.0% :(
August 31, 200915 yr "A city perennially desperate for something to cheer about can now let loose three hip-hip-hoorays" Are you effing kidding me? What is wrong with this newspaper?!
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