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Jim Rome is upset with WKNR's change in programming, and I would be too.  Jim actually really likes Cleveland:

 

Jim Rome Not Pleased With WKNR’s Programming Decision

Written By:  Craig Lyndall  |  Category:  General  |  Comments:  47   

 

Jim Rome has been immensely popular in Cleveland for a long time.  He has had multiple tour stops in Cleveland and his visit to WKNR studios in the Cleveland Galleria last year was a blockbuster for this city.  That’s why it is so surprising that WKNR decided to interfere with Rome’s nationally syndicated show when making some programming changes recently.

 

The new lineup looks like this.  Mike & Mike in the Morning will continue to be carried from 6:00 AM to 9:00 AM.  The Really Big Show with Tony Rizzo gets an extra hour from 9:00 AM to 1:00 PM.  This pushes the first hour of the Jim Rome show (from 12:00 PM to 1:00 PM) to KNR2 on 1540 AM.  Then the final two hours of Rome’s show will continue back on the flagship station 850 from 1:00 PM to 3:00 PM.

 

Only station owner Craig Karmazin knows for sure.  Is he trying to boost the profile of KNR2?  Jim Rome certainly thinks so and he didn’t mince words on his show yesterday.  ”It’s not the first time a station has done this to the show… Right now we have more stations than we’ve ever had before.”  Then he dropped a bomb. “In this particular case, in this market, in that city, on that town, it bothers me more than any other market because of the nature of our relationship… It’s Cleveland. It’s a very important market to me.”

 

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2011/01/jim-rome-not-pleased-with-wknrs-programming-decision/

 

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Cleveland Rocks, and Provides Tons of Road Salt

 

CBS CLEVELAND - Seventy percent of the nation's roads receive more than 5 inches of snow annually. This year, if you've only got that much you're lucky. Monday night nearly one-third of the country is covered in snow or ice and another storm on the way.

 

CBS News correspondent Seth Doane reports by this time in winter, it's the only white stuff on the roads that you might welcome: salt.

 

Eighteen million tons of sodium chloride - salt - is scattered on U.S. roadways in a bad winter. That's enough to fill 1 million truckloads.

 

The salt on the roads comes from well under them. CBS News took a five-minute elevator ride down 1,800 feet into a sprawling salt mine below the city of Cleveland.

 

The mine is completely dark. A labyrinth of salty corridors is revealed as we drive more than 20 minutes, two-and-a-half miles directly under Lake Erie.

 

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/07/eveningnews/main7327498.shtml?tag=cbsnewsTwoColUpperPromoArea

Cleveland Rocks, and Provides Tons of Road Salt

 

CBS CLEVELAND - Seventy percent of the nation's roads receive more than 5 inches of snow annually. This year, if you've only got that much you're lucky. Monday night nearly one-third of the country is covered in snow or ice and another storm on the way.

 

CBS News correspondent Seth Doane reports by this time in winter, it's the only white stuff on the roads that you might welcome: salt.

 

Eighteen million tons of sodium chloride - salt - is scattered on U.S. roadways in a bad winter. That's enough to fill 1 million truckloads.

 

The salt on the roads comes from well under them. CBS News took a five-minute elevator ride down 1,800 feet into a sprawling salt mine below the city of Cleveland.

 

The mine is completely dark. A labyrinth of salty corridors is revealed as we drive more than 20 minutes, two-and-a-half miles directly under Lake Erie.

 

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/07/eveningnews/main7327498.shtml?tag=cbsnewsTwoColUpperPromoArea

 

Heh, that's cool.  I didn't know about the salt mine!

Where is it located?

^you drive past the salt mine when going to Wendy Park/Whiskey Island.

I think it is just west of downtown off the west bank of the flats.  I do know that there is also a storage area down there which is used as space for cities to store their public records they are required to maintian by law. 

^Eastsiders...

 

Besides the mine, waterworks and storage facility there is also Great lakes Towing (http://www.thegreatlakesgroup.com)which is producing tugboats and did the extension on the Miller's Ferry for PIB a few years back.

 

http://www.thegreatlakesgroup.com/page_text/Miller Ferry.htm

 

 

Best view of the saltmine is the patio at the Harp on Detroit.  The huge Cargill sign and piles of salt. You can't miss it.

 

I thought Garret Morgan's gasmask gained national fame in a salt mine accident, but I googled it and it was a waterworks tunnel project.

 

 

saltmine from google steet view. Standing in the middle of the shoreway..

 

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.488439,-81.716658&spn=0,0.001418&t=h&z=20&lci=com.panoramio.all&layer=c&cbll=41.488439,-81.716658&panoid=gqpGbUME3hKzQ7QULwQEDg&cbp=12,1.15,,1,6.53

 

^Eastsiders...

 

 

Oh hush.  I do all my grocery shopping on the westside, thankyouverymuch.  I drive past that all the time - just didn't know that's what it was!

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Anyone read rustwire.com? Last week they has an article/blog post complaining about Cleveland boosterism.

Today they have an article/blog post saying that they still like LeBron.

 

Anyone read this, do they have an axe to grind with the Cleve?  Is it written by a PD reporter?

I wouldn't say that post was anti-Cleveland, it's merely pointing out that she perceives two specific camps: one that is insanely negative towards cleveland, and one that is pro-Cleveland to a fault. Her point that boosterism, without maintaining a perspective as to the real problems the city / region face can ultimately be detrimental is a valid one.

 

My problem with the PD, in particluar, is not so much that they point out the problems in the region (that's part of responsible reporting) but that they sensationalize said problems, without giving the positive news its due (that's a cheap tactic to sell papers).

I wouldn't say that post was anti-Cleveland, it's merely pointing out that she perceives two specific camps: one that is insanely negative towards cleveland, and one that is pro-Cleveland to a fault. Her point that boosterism, without maintaining a perspective as to the real problems the city / region face can ultimately be detrimental is a valid one.

 

My problem with the PD, in particluar, is not so much that they point out the problems in the region (that's part of responsible reporting) but that they sensationalize said problems, without giving the positive news its due (that's a cheap tactic to sell papers).

 

That can equally be a problem here.  There are several  people on this board that are guilty of being the opposite of anti-Cleveland to a point that they cant see when there are issues in there own neighborhood (defensive to the point of seeming to be in denial). 

 

You can love your city and be positive, but if you dont acknowledge when there are "issues" then its not likely that they are going to be dealt with.  Next thing you know things are different, and its too late to do anything about it.  This is pretty much the story of Cleveland's decline...     

I agree strongly with the Rustwire article, particularly its last paragraph.  Change needs to happen here.  For all the progress we've made, most of the city is still a wreck.  It's tough to fix that without addressing the leadership and policy choices that got it to this point.  And its tough walking that line between promoting the good aspects to outsiders and honestly appraising the bad aspects among ourselves. 

I don't really agree with this article.  I don't think anybody in Cleveland is forgetting about the inequality that exists.  There are a lot of things being done about Cleveland's problems from the school  transformation plan to the evergreen cooperatives along with a lot of foundation and non-profit involvement.  When somebody comes up with a plan to solve poverty in the United States please share it because I think every mayor in the country would love to know about it.  I don't think we need to avoid boosterism in the mean time.  I think we also have to talk about Cleveland as a region because in that sense it is no worse than many other cities.  Unfortunately the city itself has a disproportionate amount of impoverished communities and the statistics mentioned in the article abuse this fact.  If we include Shaker Heights, Lakewood, Rocky River etc. the statistics are not anywhere near as bad.  I think the boosterism exists as a backlash to these types of statistics that are often unfair and paint the city in a bad light undeservedly.  If we are not allowed to boost the city we might as well leave.  I think people are Cleveland boosters because of the potential for change that they see, boosterism is pride in solving these problems, not ignorance to them.

I don't really agree with this article.  I don't think anybody in Cleveland is forgetting about the inequality that exists.  There are a lot of things being done about Cleveland's problems from the school  transformation plan to the evergreen cooperatives along with a lot of foundation and non-profit involvement.  When somebody comes up with a plan to solve poverty in the United States please share it because I think every mayor in the country would love to know about it.  I don't think we need to avoid boosterism in the mean time.  I think we also have to talk about Cleveland as a region because in that sense it is no worse than many other cities.  Unfortunately the city itself has a disproportionate amount of impoverished communities and the statistics mentioned in the article abuse this fact.  If we include Shaker Heights, Lakewood, Rocky River etc. the statistics are not anywhere near as bad.  I think the boosterism exists as a backlash to these types of statistics that are often unfair and paint the city in a bad light undeservedly.  If we are not allowed to boost the city we might as well leave.  I think people are Cleveland boosters because of the potential for change that they see, boosterism is pride in solving these problems, not ignorance to them.

 

Yeah, but if you look at many of those initiaves, they were born out of reaching bottom (some of the worst schools neighborhoods etc.... ), it wasnt really thought about much while it was happening (Cleveland was resting on its past laurals for too long), it just kept deteriorating till it reached the point where it is now. 

 

There are many innovative ideas that are happening now as a result of "things must change for the region to remain viable", and some of the creative minds that are still part of the region, but it pretty much took hitting bottom to change the mentality.

 

I thought the article, as well as comments, were very fair.

is Chicago a great city?

Are the people from there proud of their city, and talk highly of it?

Does Chicago have worse schools than Cleveland?

Does Chicago have more violent crime than Cleveland?

Are there pockets of poverty worse in Chicago than Cleveland?

 

(if you answered yes to each of these you are correct)

 

I just don't see any "blind" boosterism.  If she is complaning that the CVB is too positive towards Cleveland, does she know what a CVB does?

Does Chicago really have worse schools/holding pens than Cleveland?  There must be some good ones in the North side. 

I don't get it. What is the problem with boosterism? Why can't they  spread the good without hanging an asterisk on the end of every positive statement? There are enough people, local media included who spend their time beating down the city proper. Nobody is going to forget about the poverty or the corruption, it gets enough coverage. I don't understand the harm that bossterism could do? Yes it can be annoying but is it real causing any harm.? And sometimes you have to have a bit of cognetive disonance in order to keep putting up the good fight. Otherwise it would be just to damn daunting to carry on. Yes a new coffee shop is insignificant in the face of crumbling ghettos but it is a small battle victory if the stoefront was previously vacant for the last 5 years.

 

For the record, I tend to be a reserved booster. More pragmatic than overly sunny and rosy.

Does Chicago really have worse schools/holding pens than Cleveland?  There must be some good ones in the North side. 

The city is more than just a few miles around Lincoln Park.  I love Chicago, but it has SERIOUS issues. 

I too am a reserved booster.  But boost I do, in bushels and droves.  I think the problem with "blind boosterism" is that it can serve to protect the status quo, which might not be the best thing for a struggling community. 

^gotcha. That is definately a potential problem, although we aren't there yet :) I welcome the day when the boosters are the main people protecting the Status Quo,

 

  • 1 month later...

Here's another story from the same genre....

 

I was having dinner with my 80-year-old mother and my sister. After dinner in an inner-ring suburb, we were discussing the new casino and the medical mart/convention center. They didn't know these projects were already under way, so they asked me to drive them downtown to show them. BTW, my sister works downtown but doesn't do much exploring and my mother hasn't been downtown for a couple of years.

 

Throughout the drive, my mother often remarked at how surprised she was to see so many people downtown (it was about 8 p.m. on a Friday). She had no idea about all of the construction and renovation projects happening. She did not know the Flats East Bank was gone and replaced by an office tower/hotel construction site (she shed some visible tears when she saw the FEB gone). ...No, dear ol' mom wasn't a party-time regular!

 

So we headed east on Euclid and got stuck in a traffic jam near Playhouse Square. She hadn't seen all the stuff happening around CSU (where she got her masters degree in the 1970s), or seen the new sprouts of revival in Midtown, or the immense development of the Clinic, UH and other stuff around UC for perhaps a decade or so. We circled back to downtown via Asiatown, then through Ohio City and Tremont before returning to suburbia. She was astonished and remarked at what great city Cleveland is. She said she had no idea any of this stuff was happening.

 

Why? Because she said she only receives the Sunday PD anymore, and dropped her subscription for the rest of the week because the news was so depressing.

 

Now she wants me to give tours to her friends at church because they are always commenting on how Cleveland is dead. I will be happy to oblige. Someone has to tell the people about Cleveland's victories, even it if is done one person at a time.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ Lol thats what Ive been doing, one person at a time. First my girlfriend, then my parents, and then siblings, several friends, and grandparents as well. Its really not that hard of a task if you can get them to listen.

I had to go downtown last week with an elderly couple who have lived in the east side's inner ring for the lst 35 years.  I asked if they had ever gone out on 4th Street and the Mrs. asked, "you mean over there by Prospect where all the hookers hang out?  Heavens no."  From that answer, I knew we had a lot of work to do.... about 20 years of catching up to be exact.

My parents are the same way, simply because they remember Cleveland in the 40's and 50's.  To them, downtown is Euclid Avenue, and that's it.  Seriously!  they do go to playhouse square regularly, and to this day are shocked as to how decrepit Euclid is.  That is when I finally came to this realization that to people in their 60's 70's and 80's, Cleveland probably does look like a dump to them based on what they remember Cleveland,  Obviously, not an exact comparison, but imagine going past South Park Mall in Strongsville 50 years from now where the mall is closed and everything around it is to.  Maybe a couple restaurants open, and that's it.  So, I can kind of in a strange way see their point.  But, in any event, their Cleveland is gone, and most likely will not make it back in their lifetime.  Their Department stores are long closed along with their bakeries and everything else that was along Euclid.  I work so hard to get my parents to see the progress, but they really just don't want to hear it.  Oh well. 

^Good points.  One's perception/reaction is really about expectations.  By pretty much any measure, downtown is dead today compared to 60 years ago, so I'm not going to get on their case too hard if that's how they react, though open-mindedness about the good stuff there now is certainly appreciated.

 

That rustwire post was some good food for thought- don't know how I missed it last month.  Though I don't think it fully hit the mark for some of the same reasons people mentioned here or in the comments.

 

I was a booster when younger but now limit myself to correcting inaccuracies and responding to gratuitous dumping on or manifest cluelessness.  I've accepted that I love Cleveland (and obsess over it and daydream about living there again) because I'm from there, not because of any of its attributes really, so I stopped trying to prove to myself or others how awesome it is.  It could be twice as cool or half as cool, and I'd probably feel the same.

 

Maybe as a result, I want to throw up every time I hear/read that Cleveland has the "second biggest performing arts center behind Lincoln Center" or whatever, because really, nobody gives a crap.  That impresses no one.  That kind of boosterism comes across as insecure and often disingenuous, unless you're seeing 30 shows a year a PHS.

I was a booster when younger but now limit myself to correcting inaccuracies and responding to gratuitous dumping on or manifest cluelessness.  I've accepted that I love Cleveland (and obsess over it and daydream about living there again) because I'm from there, not because of any of its attributes really, so I stopped trying to prove to myself or others how awesome it is.  It could be twice as cool or half as cool, and I'd probably feel the same.

 

Maybe as a result, I want to throw up every time I hear/read that Cleveland has the "second biggest performing arts center behind Lincoln Center" or whatever, because really, nobody gives a crap.  That impresses no one.  That kind of boosterism comes across as insecure and often disingenuous, unless you're seeing 30 shows a year a PHS.

 

OMG Strap, that fits my feelings to a tee...  Up until not that long ago, I was regurgitating all that pro-Cleveland stuff to people all the time, and then realized maybe I was just trying to prove to myself what I wanted Cleveland to be (or at least known for) as opposed to the usual perception.  I mean sure over time certain realities have sort of set in.  But I still regard the place highly, and dream much the same way.

 

Of course when I bring out of towners in, I do still regurgitate much of that stuff, and they are always impressed with the place, because it tends to not live up to the dump they expect.       

But what is incredible is that the threshold of education is so small -- ie: it doesn't take much to confront a widely held belief.

 

For example, the moment we exited the highway onto Ontario, my mother's first comment was -- "Why all the traffic?" She asked that question several more times in other parts of downtown and near-downtown neighborhoods. She was especially astonished at University Circle and Tremont. I have to admit I was surprised to see how jammed Tremont was!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I am amazed at the number of people that tought they were knocking down Public Hall for the Med Mart, most had no idea that the convention center was the part under the mall. It's an ongoing battle for perception around here. I agree that it's best confronted with correcting misperception and an occasion tour, not outright boosterism. 

 

Maybe 2 or 3 cranes against the skyline at the sametime might show people from afar that things are happening downtown and in other nabes.

Interesting topic. Perception is everything. My brother graduated from OSU a couple years ago. He told me crazy stories about what people were saying about Cleveland. He had a friend from Warrensville Hts. that had never been to Coventry or Little Italy. His friend was complaining about being bored when he came home for breaks. My brother told him they should meet up on Coventry over spring break. His friend said he heard of Coventry but didn't know where it was.  This same friend was all about finding the coolest spots in Short North, but had no interest in finding the cool spots in Cleveland.  He met a girl from Richmond Hts. who didn't know Cleveland had light rail. He knew a girl from one of the inner-ring suburbs that had never heard of University Circle. She thought he meant University Hts. I hung out with his friends a couple times and I was blown away by their ignorance. Each time, I spent the whole night defending Cleveland. One of his friends told me there were no good restaurants in Cleveland like there are in Columbus. I told him that's your opinion and I wasn't going to argue. He kept pressing the issue. He named five chain restaurants that exist in Greater Cleveland to support his argument. I then realized a lot of these kids never ventured out of their neighborhoods. All of their adult experiences (bars, clubs, restaurants, etc...) happened away from home. So, when they come home they have no clue what's going on.  Throw in the city's reputation and you have this weird hate from native Clevelanders.

There is a huge amount of ignorance. People say things, but cant back it up. They know nothing about the city but pretend they do and hate it.

 

Also, Ive taken friends downtown who were actually somewhat afraid. We just walked around and they were blown away. People always seem to think its really pretty and are always like, "I never knew any of this existed"

 

My girlfriend used to work at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and she always had stories for me of what people had to say. People from New York, Chicago, California, China, and all over the world, would tell her that they were surprised about "how nice Cleveland was", or "Its really clean here", and "People here are so nice". I think people from outside the region who visit actually have better things to say about the city then people who actually live in the region. This is because many of the people in the region know less about Cleveland, and what it has to offer, then people who visit.

I don't think this is an exclusive phenomena to Cleveland, I know a lot of kids while I was in school from Columbus who never set foot in the short north or German village but I do believe that it's worse here because the lack of a large college in the city and the bombardment of negativity from the local media.  The commuters to OSU and UC mix with the new adventurous transplant students  who drag them around the city, who in turn drag their friends out when they are at home on break. Here it seems everybody goes away to school and when they come home they go their neighborhood chain. I know a group of guys from Independence that all they ever did was go to the Winking Lizard, even though they 15 minutes from downtown tops. As far as the media goes, Ted Strickland nailed it with his comments on the PD, why would anyone want to go explore Cleveland on their own if they received all of their information about the city from the PD and local TV. I wouldn't.

This is a great conversation, but we probably need to get back on topic of local media

  • 2 months later...

Some cities have newspapers that expose back room deals, in Cleveland we have a newspaper who is part of the back room deal.

Some cities have newspapers that expose back room deals, in Cleveland we have a newspaper who is part of the back room deal.

 

What are you implying exactly?

^Check out the demo thread, then the CC/MM thread from the time when FCE wanted the CCMM

MTS, if you're going to take this many threads so far off topic and require us to clean up after you by making mass deletions, then perhaps you should stay on vacation.

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Yay, more sports radio.

/ sarc

 

I'm kind of surprised they're calling it quits with music, given that 92.3 is the only station that plays 'alternative' (whatever that means these days). To me, 100.7 is more 'rock' oriented....although these days there's been a blurring. But I guess you go where the dollars (hopefully) are. Radio is a tough business.

 

CBS Radio to enter Cleveland market with 'The Fan' on WKRK-FM, 92.3

 

The long-rumored entry of another sports-talk radio station into Cleveland's media market is official.

 

CBS Radio announced in a news release that 92.3 The Fan, on 92.3 WKRK-FM, will launch Aug. 29. Andy Roth, a veteran of sports radio in New York City, Philadelphia and Buffalo, was named the station's program director.

 

 

“What we are launching is literally a radio station for ‘The Fan,'” Mr. Roth said in the release. “For Clevelanders who live and breathe sports 24/7, this will be the place to get the best insight, most in-depth coverage and a well-rounded balance of listener participation, all presented in an entertaining forum.”

 

The station will compete with Cleveland's other all-sports station, ESPN 850, WKNR-AM. In an instant coup, 92.3 will be home to Westwood One's coverage of the NFL, formerly played on WKNR.

 

 

http://crainscleveland.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110804/FREE/110809897

Since 1100 doesn't really have sports talk shows anymore, I think this is just filling the market share WTAM abandoned when it became more obsessed with right-wing radio (and the occassional left-wing whacko like Art McCoy) than with sports.  Hell, even Trivisommo hasn't talked sports since the 2008 election (big shocker there).  I remember when WTAM was sports talk nearly all day.  Now, it is Bob Franz to Glen Beck to Rush Limbaugh to Mike Trivisommo to whatever conspiracy theorist they can throw in there at night to talk about fake moon landings, alien abductions, and the white devil.  They really only break for the games and some really weak post-game shows.

You don't consider 107.3 "alternative"? If 92.3 is alternative, then I'd say 107.3 is as well.

 

I'm glad there'll be another sports radio station in town, but I wish that it would be replacing something like 95.5. I really hope that they have something better than Rhoda and Reghi. Those guys are painful to listen to.

 

Yay, more sports radio.

/ sarc

 

I'm kind of surprised they're calling it quits with music, given that 92.3 is the only station that plays 'alternative' (whatever that means these days). To me, 100.7 is more 'rock' oriented....although these days there's been a blurring. But I guess you go where the dollars (hopefully) are. Radio is a tough business.

 

CBS Radio to enter Cleveland market with 'The Fan' on WKRK-FM, 92.3

 

The long-rumored entry of another sports-talk radio station into Cleveland's media market is official.

 

CBS Radio announced in a news release that 92.3 The Fan, on 92.3 WKRK-FM, will launch Aug. 29. Andy Roth, a veteran of sports radio in New York City, Philadelphia and Buffalo, was named the station's program director.

 

 

What we are launching is literally a radio station for The Fan,' Mr. Roth said in the release. For Clevelanders who live and breathe sports 24/7, this will be the place to get the best insight, most in-depth coverage and a well-rounded balance of listener participation, all presented in an entertaining forum.

 

The station will compete with Cleveland's other all-sports station, ESPN 850, WKNR-AM. In an instant coup, 92.3 will be home to Westwood One's coverage of the NFL, formerly played on WKNR.

 

 

http://crainscleveland.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110804/FREE/110809897

^ I've been listening a lot to 107.3. Probably a lot more beginning in September. To me that's more 'grown up' alternative. I get my Elvis Costello and Mumford & Sons fix there.

 

92.3 is where I got harder edged stuff. Meh, more time with my ipod now I guess.

 

 

I really hope that they have something better than Rhoda and Reghi. Those guys are painful to listen to.

 

 

I agree, but with names like "Chuck Booms" and "The Bull", I'm not holding out a lot of hope.

Kiley and Booms was number one nationally when Fox Sports pulled the show (rather than pay them) in 2002-ish. Booms is the comedian and Kiley has cred as an nfl player. Good chemistry.

 

I'll listen to them more than I would Mike and Mike, I think. But I will most likely turn to Rizzo's show at 9am.

 

The Bull? Never heard of him before.

  • 2 weeks later...

The PD got under my skin with this one.  In an online poll of possible teams up for elimination if the NBA decides to contract, they listed the Cavs as one of the five options.  Joining them were Sacramento, NOLA, Charlotte, and Memphis.  Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Starting Blocks?!?!?  What the H-E-double hockey sticks were you thinking?!?!?  The fan support for the Cavs is outstanding.  Sure, it varies with team success and I do expect attendance to be down this year, but that is the case with virtually every market.  The Cavs have an exceptionally large market considering there is no team in Cincy, Pittsburgh or Buffalo.  As bad as they were last year, their TV ratings were still up there.  Why include them, but not the Bucks.... or the f'in Clippers.  Makes no sense whatsoever.  If contraction comes, there will easily be 10-15 teams on the chopping block before Stern even considers the Cavs.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2011/08/nba_lockout_david_stern_sugges.html

Getting under your skin is what sports writers specialize in, these days...they know more people will respond and share the link if they stir up controversy.

 

There is zero chance of the Cavaliers being contracted, at least this decade.

92.3 is going? Time to reprogram my FM dial then; there are already enough pointless sports meatheads on AM. Personally I don't see the point of spending hours and hours agonizing over who is going to do what and when in sports, I'd rather just watch.

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