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The idea of inducting Lawrence Welk into the RRHOF and the change to Pierre's Freedom Vanilla were funny, I don't care what your leanings are....

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I thought a lot of it was funny.

I'm surprised Cleveland.com ran that. Most of their audience tends to be of the Rush Limbaugh demographic that he is demeaning.

^False.  Most of the COMMENTERS are that demographic.  Most of the audience is not.

You are absolutely correct Hts.

^False.  Most of the COMMENTERS are that demographic.  Most of the audience is not.

 

Yep, the PD is historically conservative while Cuyahoga County is probably the bluest county in the State.  The PD has almost never represented the political leanings of the vast majority of its readers; certainly not in modern times.

I'm surprised Cleveland.com ran that. Most of their audience tends to be of the Rush Limbaugh demographic that he is demeaning.

 

If you're not very good at REPORTING the news, take the next step and just become the news

^False.  Most of the COMMENTERS are that demographic.  Most of the audience is not.

 

Yep, the PD is historically conservative while Cuyahoga County is probably the bluest county in the State.  The PD has almost never represented the political leanings of the vast majority of its readers; certainly not in modern times.

 

I was not actually referring to the writers/reporters, but the people who flood the comments section.  I find that to be true with a lot of sites..... Yahoo! being the most notorious outside of the websites which specifically cater to conservatives. 

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Has anyone been following the "Hard Time in Cleveland" series?  It's about a  house flipper sentenced to do community service in Slavic Village.  It's been an excellent read - Rachel Dissell did a great job.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/slavic-village/

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FYI I was surprised to see Dick Goddard doing the weather on Monday. I'm not sure he really knew where he was.

FYI I was surprised to see Dick Goddard doing the weather on Monday. I'm not sure he really knew where he was.

 

Did I miss something in the news as far as the surprise goes?

FYI I was surprised to see Dick Goddard doing the weather on Monday. I'm not sure he really knew where he was.

 

Did I miss something in the news as far as the surprise goes?

 

I had no idea he was still working...then again, I'm not exactly glued to local tv news so much.

FYI I was surprised to see Dick Goddard doing the weather on Monday. I'm not sure he really knew where he was.

 

Did I miss something in the news as far as the surprise goes?

 

I had no idea he was still working...then again, I'm not exactly glued to local tv news so much.

 

Me neither, but I just assumed he was still on a regular schedule.

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^ Wish you copy/pasted some of the article. Looks like they pulled the article already.

Then there was this from the other day.  the 2 Lakewood robbery suspects that were apprehended.  The picture caption notes both the suspects as having the same name, but then in the article it gives the correct (not same) names.

 

The 46-year-old Angel Cruz of Akron, right, and the 41-year-old Angel Cruz of Cleveland, left (Lakewood Police)

 

I couldnt get the picture to post, but here is the link .. 

 

http://imgick.cleveland.com/home/cleve-media/width620/img/lakewood/photo/19058170-mmmain.jpg

 

http://www.cleveland.com/lakewood/index.ssf/2015/10/cleveland_man_akron_man_charge.html#incart_river

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/10/lawyer_for_man_who_killed_shak.html#incart_m-rpt-1

 

Lawyer for man who killed Shaker Heights teacher faces jail time after missing sentencing

 

Does the PD/cleveland.com even try anymore? The attorney is deceased, which they didn't think to consider when "researching" the article. My hunch is the story will be edited or outright pulled shortly

 

I'm no fan of the PD/NEOMG and their lack of research (see above post) but in this case, the court is more likely at fault.

^How was the court supposed to know? 

Cleveland.com has at least a dozen articles on Dimoras sex scandal on their front page at the same time.  What a gutter news source, I had to click off their sight in disgust.

Cleveland.com has at least a dozen articles on Dimoras sex scandal on their front page at the same time.  What a gutter news source, I had to click off their sight in disgust.

 

THanks for that imagery!

I have low standards for the NEOMG, but this is really a whole new level

Better 5 years too later than never, I guess. Thank you complicit Plain Dealer.

Love how they locked out comments on all but one story...

The west side gangs mass arrests press conference was going on, and it was all Dimora. It was a definite IDGAF moment, so I just went back to twitter.

The Dimora coverage was overblown and salacious but it's still front page worthy.  This guy ran our town for years and only the feds could stop him.  There has to be a lesson for us in there somewhere... probably not a lesson about hookers though.

Somebody posted this article in the RTA thread. There was a snippet at the end that was pretty disappointing:

 

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/11/12/rta-to-raise-base-fare-cut-service-in-2016

 

And we certainly might be — who can say? The Plain Dealer, in its latest round of layoffs, said farewell to its transportation beat writer Alison Grant, and all of these important developments and conversation topics have been ignored by our region's major news outlet.

 

That is truly a shame. She was the only one covering transportation in Cleveland's "major" outlets, and did a decent job at it too. That's one way to silence public transit advocacy (even if unintentionally). Her articles frequently had quotes from AAO and Ken.

That is truly a shame. She was the only one covering transportation in Cleveland's "major" outlets, and did a decent job at it too. That's one way to silence public transit advocacy (even if unintentionally). Her articles frequently had quotes from AAO and Ken.

 

Yep. What's an even bigger shame is that no one has replaced her on the transportation beat. The beat has been assigned to someone else, but that person already covers other beats, too. She told me she wants to keep writing about transportation but probably as a freelancer. Yet I've not heard from her since she was let go. The PD can't possibly cover so many stories with so few people. There were so many other stories I wanted Alison Grant to cover, and she wanted to cover those and more. But she was just one writer and the PD had so little space either on its hardcopy edition or at cleveland.com that they couldn't possibly cover all of the transportation stories out there.

 

This isn't happening by accident. Cleveland is surrounded by lots of smaller cities all of whom have daily newspapers with more active news websites that cleveland.com. But the corporate conglomerate Advance Communications, run by the Newhouse brothers, has killed the PD, Sun Newspapers, cleveland.com, NEOMG, etc and stifled news coverage in Cleveland.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Wow even Newsnet5 beat the Plain Dealer to the punch on RTA fare hike: http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/greater-cleveland-regional-transit-authority-considers-rate-hike

 

On a side note, does anyone know how far the Plain Dealer's circulation numbers have fallen since they reduced delivery to four times per week? When I moved back to the area, I took up a 10 week promotional trial subscription but cancelled afterwards, since everything in print can be found on their website for free. And I thought the quality of articles was lacking outside of a handful of writers (Litt, Michelle, and others).

Wow even Newsnet5 beat the Plain Dealer to the punch on RTA fare hike: http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/greater-cleveland-regional-transit-authority-considers-rate-hike

 

On a side note, does anyone know how far the Plain Dealer's circulation numbers have fallen since they reduced delivery to four times per week? When I moved back to the area, I took up a 10 week promotional trial subscription but cancelled afterwards, since everything in print can be found on their website for free. And I thought the quality of articles was lacking outside of a handful of writers (Litt, Michelle, and others).

 

 

good question and not just for the peedee, but really for all print newspapers in general lately.

 

regarding the plain dealer, i see that circulation improved slightly from late2011- early2013, with a circulation of basically around 300k mon-sat and 500k for the sunday paper. of course they laid off a bunch of people in mid-2013 and cut back, but i didnt see any circulation info since then.

 

more:

http://www.statista.com/statistics/194173/average-paid-circulation-of-the-cleveland-plain-dealer/

 

 

http://www.statista.com/statistics/194173/average-paid-circulation-of-the-cleveland-plain-dealer/

Cleveland.com manages to find new lows at every turn. I desperately hope we someday have a subscription-based local news operation that doesn't have to chase after clicks so badly. Forcing people to pay (no matter how little) would probably filter out many of the crazies from the comments section, too.

Cleveland.com manages to find new lows at every turn. I desperately hope we someday have a subscription-based local news operation that doesn't have to chase after clicks so badly. Forcing people to pay (no matter how little) would probably filter out many of the crazies from the comments section, too.

 

EDIT: well that was weird. I just noticed that someone who is not me copied this post of mine and pasted it in the comments section of that Cleveland.com piece.

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B.F.D.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Looks like a couple of incidents, not just this one....

 

Crain's Cleveland Business publisher pleads guilty to exposing self to newspaper deliverywoman

By Adam Ferrise, cleveland.com

on January 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, updated January 12, 2016 at 11:26 AM

 

STOW, Ohio — The suspended publisher of Crain's Cleveland Business pleaded guilty Tuesday to exposing himself to a newspaper deliverywoman.

 

John Campanelli, 46, pleaded guilty to a fourth-degree misdemeanor charge of public indecency. The charge carries a maximum penalty of 30 days in jail and a $250 fine. Stow Municipal Court Judge Kim Hoover also told Campanelli that probation and other sentences are possible.

 

MORE:

http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2016/01/crains_cleveland_business_publ_1.html

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Looks like a couple of incidents, not just this one....

 

Crain's Cleveland Business publisher pleads guilty to exposing self to newspaper deliverywoman

By Adam Ferrise, cleveland.com

on January 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, updated January 12, 2016 at 11:26 AM

 

STOW, Ohio — The suspended publisher of Crain's Cleveland Business pleaded guilty Tuesday to exposing himself to a newspaper deliverywoman.

 

John Campanelli, 46, pleaded guilty to a fourth-degree misdemeanor charge of public indecency. The charge carries a maximum penalty of 30 days in jail and a $250 fine. Stow Municipal Court Judge Kim Hoover also told Campanelli that probation and other sentences are possible.

 

MORE:

http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2016/01/crains_cleveland_business_publ_1.html

 

His photos are now available online, but they are behind a pay window....  :wink: :-P :wink: :-P

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I must admit I'm thoroughly entertained by the cleveland.com crime section where all the comments for crimes and court cases are on one, utterly non-organized page. It's a complete mess of information and posters ranting and raving; too funny.

 

That said, it's still an f'ing terrible, unprofessional, illogical news forum. Just lock all comments instead of having this consolidation page; it's so obviously just an F U to posters, nothing more. While this isn't as bad as the Is Sharon Reed Lebron's Baby Momma or Why We Don't Describe Suspects' Race nonsensical articles (now THOSE were the bottom of the barrel), the PD/cleveland.com still doesn't fail in failing miserably.

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Jeez, man.  The city just successfully hosted a major national event, was the byline for news stories across the world, and came out looking great.  Let the city enjoy it.

It's the trope that every positive article has to begin on a negative; it's like the PD is always gaslighting its readers. That laziness drives me crazy.

It's the trope that every positive article has to begin on a negative; it's like the PD is always gaslighting its readers. That laziness drives me crazy.

 

Perhaps, but that one's accurate.  People I know from around the country were at best ambivalent about Cleveland but were very impressed.

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