I've been listening the last 2 days (don't know when they went live). So far, I wouldn't consider them AAA, which is what they were promoting themselves as. I feel them as 106.5 with more REM.

Roldo is a pain in the ass. He's the ghost of Cleveland Past. Lol. And not the good past. All he does is complain about EVERYTHING. And I mean EVERYTHING. I don't know if I've seen him write anything positive in recent history. He's trading off of who he used to be, but he's really just morphed into the city's resident "get off of my lawn" guy.

 

I've seen him go off with all sorts of righteous indignation whenever a company locates their offices anywhere but downtown, and here he admits he hasn't even been there in two years.

 

I've always referred to him as "Cleveland's Bertram Scudder".

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/09/hopkins_security_manager_on_le.html#incart_river_default

Article's less than an hour old and comments are already closed.  :evil:

^ Too cheap to pay the cover at strip bars I guess.

They also closed comments on a story from last night, on a shooting in my brother's neighborhood.

So I was listening the other night to the Ken Carman show on 92.3 The Fan when caller asked why we should have a dome on the stadium when we don't have "that new convention center they promised us. Shouldn't they do that first before putting a dome on the stadium?"

 

The caller asked Carman again if "they" built the medical mart and convention center yet. If that wasn't bad enough, Carman couldn't answer him.

 

That's two Clevelanders who have no idea that such a large project is underway (and has been for more than a year) in Northeast Ohio. That's two more than I expected, especially when one of them is a radio talk show host who is downtown often at the radio studio and to attend games.

 

My first thought is the Downtown Cleveland Alliance needs to run some ads to inform the public about downtown. But I would not ask others to do something I would not do myself. So what about UrbanOhio running some ads to tell people a fact or two about the city and then to promote the website? We'd have to pull some money together, but I think it'd be worth doing.

I think Positively Cleveland would be the best resource for this sort of thing. 

The WKNR guys advocate for the city and they're less Fox-ish than 92.3.  Goldhammer, a transplant, gushes about the place.  Jerod Cherry is on board too, always pushing downtown development.

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/three-people-shot-on-e-66th-street-and-bliss-avenue-in-cleveland

 

Channell 5's editors need a geography lesson.  This article (currently) says 66th and Bliss is 500 feet from Hyacinth Park, when it's more like 4 miles.

Yeah Channel 5 has been screwing up tons of things like that.

So I was listening the other night to the Ken Carman show on 92.3 The Fan when caller asked why we should have a dome on the stadium when we don't have "that new convention center they promised us. Shouldn't they do that first before putting a dome on the stadium?"

 

 

Shoot. Can't recall if it was Bull and Fox or Ken Carmen:  caller asks how much the roof on the stadium would cost and the host repeatedly answers "5 million dollars." Then, he eventually corrects himself that it will instead cost "500 million dollars."

 

Do'h! 

 

 

Local media-related: The Scene apparently just laid off about half of their staff.

I stopped picking it up when they stopped putting basic restaurant/venue guides in the print version.  I realize that can be more efficiently handled online, but it's also many people's main reason for wanting a copy of the print version.

I stopped picking it up when they stopped putting basic restaurant/venue guides in the print version.  I realize that can be more efficiently handled online, but it's also many people's main reason for wanting a copy of the print version.

 

The Scene jumped the shark when it decided to try and copy the "Free Times"....

 

Local media-related: The Scene apparently just laid off about half of their staff.

 

Ouch. I agree Scene jumped the shark a while back.

 

The best thing out there right now is Buzzbin Magazine. It covers Cleveland, Akron and Canton. It's much more in-depth into local music; true to the way Scene used to be in the 90's. Unfortunately it's a little harder to find Buzzbin around.

 

http://www.buzzbinmagazine.com/home/

Local media-related: The Scene apparently just laid off about half of their staff.

 

Ouch. I agree Scene jumped the shark a while back.

 

The best thing out there right now is Buzzbin Magazine. It covers Cleveland, Akron and Canton. It's much more in-depth into local music; true to the way Scene used to be in the 90's. Unfortunately it's a little harder to find Buzzbin around.

 

http://www.buzzbinmagazine.com/home/

 

Scene peaked during the late 80s and early 90s when it was absolutely the bible of Cleveland night life.  Live music still had a huge role, and even those clubs that used DJs had different events, themes, and such.

 

The 'net changed all that.  In particular, bands could promote themselves without clubs to play in or hard copy media to promote such.

Cleveland 'Plain Dealer' mulls layoffs, restructuring

 

Advanced Publishing, which owns the Cleveland 'Plain Dealer', plans to introduce a digital-first restructuring plan at the paper that includes layoffs and possibly reducing the publishing schedule.

 

2:23PM EST November 28. 2012 - Ohio's largest newspaper, The Plain Dealer in Cleveland, could soon face the end of its 170-year run as a daily print publication.

 

But employees and community leaders aren't about to let it happen without protests. The "Save The Plain Dealer" campaign, largely orchestrated by its employees, has bought billboard ads opposing the possible cutbacks planned by the paper's owner, Advance Publications, which is based in Staten Island, N.Y.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2012/11/28/cleveland-plain-dealer-plans-cutback-and-restructuring/1726479/

 

http://local-news-papers.com/articles/cleveland-plain-dealer-mulls-layoffs-restructuring/

 

 

This is sad stuff.  Of course the PD has to be owned by the only company making these types of cuts at this time.  If this happens I will do my best to keep off of Cleveland.com (more-so than I already do).

Of course I wish they wouldn't make these changes so they'd go bankrupt and let others rebuild local media in their absense; however, this is the future deal with it.

More newspapers will be printing fewer newspapers.

Channel 5 News

 

"ALERT" "Downtown CLE fire under control"

 

Clicked on the link...

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/oh_cuyahoga/cleveland-firefighters-battle-fire-downtown-at-occupied-structure

 

 

The fire was at 7309 St. Clair which is at the corner of East 73rd and St Clair...

This is sad stuff.  Of course the PD has to be owned by the only company making these types of cuts at this time.  If this happens I will do my best to keep off of Cleveland.com (more-so than I already do).

 

I believe that the PD makes money as is, printing seven days a week.

 

I don't know the full story, so I won't give my opinion.  However the guild seems to believe that this move is being made to break them. 

This is sad stuff.  Of course the PD has to be owned by the only company making these types of cuts at this time.  If this happens I will do my best to keep off of Cleveland.com (more-so than I already do).

 

I believe that the PD makes money as is, printing seven days a week.

 

I don't know the full story, so I won't give my opinion.  However the guild seems to believe that this move is being made to break them. 

 

Yeah they are trying to stop the bleeding, but it's not really a CPD issue as much as it is their parent company.  I wont comment any further, but it starts at the top.

"Save the Plain Dealer" Party https://www.facebook.com/events/431224410277355/

Workers Reveal Extent of Plain Dealer Layoffs

 

Posted on: 10:28 pm, December 3, 2012, by Bliss Davis

 

 

savetheplaindealer2

 

CLEVELAND — The Northeast Ohio Newspaper Guild says the city’s largest newspaper in circulation is set to significantly reduce its staff in 2013.

 

According to Harlan Spector, the unit chair of the Northeast Ohio Newspaper Guild, membership will be reduced to 110 members in The Plain Dealer’s newsroom.

 

http://fox8.com/2012/12/03/guild-announces-extent-of-the-plain-dealer-layoffs/

Channel 5 News

 

"ALERT" "Downtown CLE fire under control"

 

Clicked on the link...

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/oh_cuyahoga/cleveland-firefighters-battle-fire-downtown-at-occupied-structure

 

 

The fire was at 7309 St. Clair which is at the corner of East 73rd and St Clair...

 

East 73rd is downtown? I always wondered why we were never required to take a geography class as part of our journalism studies. Clearly some really need it.

 

This is sad stuff.  Of course the PD has to be owned by the only company making these types of cuts at this time.  If this happens I will do my best to keep off of Cleveland.com (more-so than I already do).

 

I believe that the PD makes money as is, printing seven days a week.

 

I don't know the full story, so I won't give my opinion.  However the guild seems to believe that this move is being made to break them. 

 

Maybe the guild needs to start a competing paper.

Channel 5 News

 

"ALERT" "Downtown CLE fire under control"

 

Clicked on the link...

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/oh_cuyahoga/cleveland-firefighters-battle-fire-downtown-at-occupied-structure

 

 

The fire was at 7309 St. Clair which is at the corner of East 73rd and St Clair...

 

East 73rd is downtown? I always wondered why we were never required to take a geography class as part of our journalism studies. Clearly some really need it.

 

This is sad stuff.  Of course the PD has to be owned by the only company making these types of cuts at this time.  If this happens I will do my best to keep off of Cleveland.com (more-so than I already do).

 

I believe that the PD makes money as is, printing seven days a week.

 

I don't know the full story, so I won't give my opinion.  However the guild seems to believe that this move is being made to break them. 

 

Maybe the guild needs to start a competing paper.

 

Competing paper?? Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. PLEASE get that suggestion to them. Not just because of the issue at the PD, but because a reasonably large media market like ours (28th largest, in the top 30) should have two newspapers. I think it really hurts our market by only having one.

Maybe the guild needs to start a competing paper.

 

Competing paper?? Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. PLEASE get that suggestion to them. Not just because of the issue at the PD, but because a reasonably large media market like ours (28th largest, in the top 30) should have two newspapers. I think it really hurts our market by only having one.

 

Yeah, like I have any pull with, or contacts at the newspaper guild. :(

 

I've always wanted to write about Cleveland city news (development, transportation issues, neighborhood-level issues) for a Cleveland paper. I get to do some of that by freelancing for Sun by covering the West Park - Edgewater - Westown - Jefferson Park areas, but I'd love to get more into the urban core. The neighborhood-level reporting in that area is so neglected, though folks like Chuck Hoven over at the Plain Press do a pretty good with the near-west side neighborhoods. When we had the West Side Sun and I was Sun's only Cleveland reporter (I still am, but just a freelancer and not a full-time staff writer) I used to compete with the Plain Press. I think the residents won by having us compete. Those were fun times and a great challenge. When Sun decided to end the West Side Sun after a 90-year run, I left. I would not cover suburban areas. Sadly, there is no similar, neighborhood-level of reporting for downtown or near-East Side neighborhoods out to University Circle. That's a shame. I'd love to jump on someone else's initiative to expand the news reporting in the downtown/near-east side neighborhoods. I wish I could devote the time and money to initiating something there, but I have neither the time nor money.

Not to nitpick, but isn't Cleveland the 18th largest media market? Even more reason to have more media outlets. Though in that regard it does have a second 'major' paper in the Beacon Journal.

 

The thing is in 2012 who is starting printed newspapers?

If a new paper was started how would it be financed? Could it rent use of the PDs printing facilities to offset equipment cost? Questions I would really like to know the answer to

18th largest TV market, 28th for radio because radio splits off Akron from Cleveland.

 

The TV market is 17 counties, and stretches from Sandusky to Mansfield to New Philadelphia (but not three counties around Youngstown.)

The thing is in 2012 who is starting printed newspapers?

If a new paper was started how would it be financed? Could it rent use of the PDs printing facilities to offset equipment cost? Questions I would really like to know the answer to

 

I don't think I'd want to do a printed newspaper, although they don't cost that much. All Aboard Ohio's newsprint color newsletter is printed for less than $400. Although we print just 2,500 copies, most of the cost is at the front end in the setup. So if we printed 10,000 copies, for example, it wouldn't cost that much more. Probably just $500. OK, who wants to be a salesperson to sign up businesses to run ads? And that also means designing their ads too (unless they've already got something that's camera-ready).

Not to nitpick, but isn't Cleveland the 18th largest media market? Even more reason to have more media outlets. Though in that regard it does have a second 'major' paper in the Beacon Journal.

 

The thing is in 2012 who is starting printed newspapers?

If a new paper was started how would it be financed? Could it rent use of the PDs printing facilities to offset equipment cost? Questions I would really like to know the answer to

 

I don't count the Beacon Journal (or the News Herald for that matter) because they don't target "Cleveland". They're in the market, but they target the outskirts of it, and papers that do that usually don't count as another "major" paper

Not to nitpick, but isn't Cleveland the 18th largest media market? Even more reason to have more media outlets. Though in that regard it does have a second 'major' paper in the Beacon Journal.

 

The thing is in 2012 who is starting printed newspapers?

If a new paper was started how would it be financed? Could it rent use of the PDs printing facilities to offset equipment cost? Questions I would really like to know the answer to

 

I don't count the Beacon Journal (or the News Herald for that matter) because they don't target "Cleveland". They're in the market, but they target the outskirts of it, and papers that do that usually don't count as another "major" paper

 

Yeah I'm sure there's a more specific definition that could be used for "major newspaper," but I generally consider the News Herald to be in the same class as the Sun Newspapers because they deal with suburban areas.  Then again I would actually count the Beacon-Journal as sort of being in the same class as the Plain Dealer because it's the main newspaper for a large, urban area based around a big(-ish) city. 

Not to nitpick, but isn't Cleveland the 18th largest media market? Even more reason to have more media outlets. Though in that regard it does have a second 'major' paper in the Beacon Journal.

 

The thing is in 2012 who is starting printed newspapers?

If a new paper was started how would it be financed? Could it rent use of the PDs printing facilities to offset equipment cost? Questions I would really like to know the answer to

 

Printed start up are a loss out the gate.  All new "newspapers" are digital.  We consumer information in real time. printed is dying, their all dying at various paces.

 

Any new paper the comes along couldn't afford to use a larger printer, the cost to print (you have to typset all your own work) and running a smaller paper on a larger publisher plant isn't cost effective.  Also, strategically  why would the PD, let a start up use their equipment?  Lets be real for a second.

Not to nitpick, but isn't Cleveland the 18th largest media market? Even more reason to have more media outlets. Though in that regard it does have a second 'major' paper in the Beacon Journal.

 

The thing is in 2012 who is starting printed newspapers?

If a new paper was started how would it be financed? Could it rent use of the PDs printing facilities to offset equipment cost? Questions I would really like to know the answer to

 

I don't count the Beacon Journal (or the News Herald for that matter) because they don't target "Cleveland". They're in the market, but they target the outskirts of it, and papers that do that usually don't count as another "major" paper

 

Yeah I'm sure there's a more specific definition that could be used for "major newspaper," but I generally consider the News Herald to be in the same class as the Sun Newspapers because they deal with suburban areas.  Then again I would actually count the Beacon-Journal as sort of being in the same class as the Plain Dealer because it's the main newspaper for a large, urban area based around a big(-ish) city.

 

I could see how you could consider the Beacon Journal as in the same class as the PD. I still consider them not counting in terms of the other "major" paper because the city they focus on is Akron. They don't really serve Cleveland. They're in the "number 2" by default, not by design

Not to nitpick, but isn't Cleveland the 18th largest media market? Even more reason to have more media outlets. Though in that regard it does have a second 'major' paper in the Beacon Journal.

 

The thing is in 2012 who is starting printed newspapers?

If a new paper was started how would it be financed? Could it rent use of the PDs printing facilities to offset equipment cost? Questions I would really like to know the answer to

 

I don't count the Beacon Journal (or the News Herald for that matter) because they don't target "Cleveland". They're in the market, but they target the outskirts of it, and papers that do that usually don't count as another "major" paper

 

Yeah I'm sure there's a more specific definition that could be used for "major newspaper," but I generally consider the News Herald to be in the same class as the Sun Newspapers because they deal with suburban areas.  Then again I would actually count the Beacon-Journal as sort of being in the same class as the Plain Dealer because it's the main newspaper for a large, urban area based around a big(-ish) city.

 

I could see how you could consider the Beacon Journal as in the same class as the PD. I still consider them not counting in terms of the other "major" paper because the city they focus on is Akron. They don't really serve Cleveland. They're in the "number 2" by default, not by design

 

Oh yeah, for sure, the only part of Northeast Ohio that might be able to say that they have two "major" newspapers would be Macedonia, Twinsburg, and Hudson. ;)

Maybe the guild needs to start a competing paper.

 

Competing paper?? Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. PLEASE get that suggestion to them. Not just because of the issue at the PD, but because a reasonably large media market like ours (28th largest, in the top 30) should have two newspapers. I think it really hurts our market by only having one.

 

Yeah, like I have any pull with, or contacts at the newspaper guild. :(

 

I've always wanted to write about Cleveland city news (development, transportation issues, neighborhood-level issues) for a Cleveland paper. I get to do some of that by freelancing for Sun by covering the West Park - Edgewater - Westown - Jefferson Park areas, but I'd love to get more into the urban core. The neighborhood-level reporting in that area is so neglected, though folks like Chuck Hoven over at the Plain Press do a pretty good with the near-west side neighborhoods. When we had the West Side Sun and I was Sun's only Cleveland reporter (I still am, but just a freelancer and not a full-time staff writer) I used to compete with the Plain Press. I think the residents won by having us compete. Those were fun times and a great challenge. When Sun decided to end the West Side Sun after a 90-year run, I left. I would not cover suburban areas. Sadly, there is no similar, neighborhood-level of reporting for downtown or near-East Side neighborhoods out to University Circle. That's a shame. I'd love to jump on someone else's initiative to expand the news reporting in the downtown/near-east side neighborhoods. I wish I could devote the time and money to initiating something there, but I have neither the time nor money.

 

Look into the Observer group led by Jim O'Bryan.  He is developing a Campus Observer for around CSU as well as another that would hit the UC area.

 

No thanks. The Observer is not reputable, in my opinion. They have written personal attacks against my former co-workers at Sun because they didn't agree with what they wrote. I mean, really? Newspaper writers don't go after other newspaper writers when they are scooped or write better news stories. But the Observer did. How petty.

 

And if that wasn't petty enough, they used to put their newspapers atop Sun's papers in Sun's news racks at various stores (CVS, Walgreen's etc). They are racks that Sun pays for, so Sun filed complaints against them and asked store personnel to make sure they didn't do that anymore.

Delivery is what kills you. Not so much the printing.

"No thanks. The Observer is not reputable, in my opinion."

 

Correct me if I'm wrong - is that the paper that will publish just about anything written by *anyone*?

Delivery is what kills you. Not so much the printing.

 

Says who?  Delivery of a paper is local, unlike magazines which need a very large postal budget.

 

Again, it's the manufacturing of the printer paper.  By the time its printed, the digital content has already evolved.

 

For instance the delivery cost (thats all final costs - raw materials, salaries, marketing, etc.- per edition) to print the NYT is twice as much as sending every subscriber an e reader.

^ its gotta be way more than twice the costs.

 

thats a shame about the pd, but i am not surprised. its the future. if they had a more reputable online presence it wouldn't be so bad, but unfortunately all those advance websites are just the worst. gawd awful. the pd really needs another owner badly.

 

definately not surprized about the scene. that kind of coverage (music, food, etc) is much better suited to online. come to think of it i can't remember the last time i have seen a print version of the village voice around either. its been a long long time. i still find the old weeklies very useful tho online, so maybe they can have another shot at life if they can successfully make the transition away from print.

 

^ its gotta be way more than twice the costs.

 

thats a shame about the pd, but i am not surprised. its the future. if they had a more reputable online presence it wouldn't be so bad, but unfortunately all those advance websites are just the worst. gawd awful. the pd really needs another owner badly.

 

definately not surprized about the scene. that kind of coverage (music, food, etc) is much better suited to online. come to think of it i can't remember the last time i have seen a print version of the village voice around either. its been a long long time. i still find the old weeklies very useful tho online, so maybe they can have another shot at life if they can successfully make the transition away from print.

 

 

The NY Times provided that information. I can't get the article , but here is a source that backs up my statement.

 

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2009-01-30/tech/30068072_1_amazon-kindle-delivery-costs-open-letter

 

 

"No thanks. The Observer is not reputable, in my opinion."

 

Correct me if I'm wrong - is that the paper that will publish just about anything written by *anyone*?

 

Correct.

"No thanks. The Observer is not reputable, in my opinion."

 

Correct me if I'm wrong - is that the paper that will publish just about anything written by *anyone*?

 

That's been the name of the CWRU paper since I went there.  I wrote a bi-weekly column in it back then, so I suppose you're right.  :)

That's been the name of the CWRU paper since I went there.  I wrote a bi-weekly column in it back then, so I suppose you're right.  :)[/color]

 

Different paper and concept. They're talking about a chain of suburban weeklies called The Lakewood Observer, the Parma Observer, etc. who pages are filled by citizen journalists. http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2006/09/your-guide-to-citizen-journalism270.html

Just my personal opinion, but I've found the Heights Observer to be pretty legit and informative, even for a paper that apparently lets anyone write for it.

Found this today, interesting mention of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/2013/01/08/lynching_map_tuskegee_institute_s_data_on_lynching_from_1900_1931.html

 

 

These numbers can seem antiseptic. Upon the release of the Tuskegee Report in 1916, the Cleveland Plain Dealer sought to put a face to the statistics by describing the relatively minor crimes that provoked some of the year's lynchings (while noting that at least four of the people killed were later proved innocent):

 

One was charged with being accessory to burning a barn. One was accused to [sic] stealing cotton. A family of four, including two daughters, was slaughtered for clubbing an officer. Three were lynched for poisoning mules, and two for stealing hogs. Two were strung up for furnishing ammunition to a man who was resisting arrest.

 

This is an interesting service.  Legally questionable, but they do offer a service for those that do not want to go to the pain of installing an antenna (relatively easy) and setting up a PC to record programing (not hard, but not simple either)

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2013/01/tv-over-internet_service_comin.html#incart_river

 

TV-over-Internet service coming to Cleveland, company says

 

NEW YORK  -- The Barry Diller-backed Internet company that challenged cable and satellite TV services by offering inexpensive live television online plans to expand beyond New York City this spring, including to Cleveland.

 

In the wake of a federal court ruling that tentatively endorsed its legality, Aereo will bring its $8-a-month service to Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, Washington and 18 other markets in the U.S., as well as to New York's suburbs. For the past year, the service had been limited to New York City residents as the company fine-tuned its technology and awaited guidance on whether its unlicensed use of free, over-the-air broadcasts amounted to a copyright violation.

Virginia and North Carolina had way fewer lynchings than those  states in the deep South.  I had always wondered about the scale of those murders and when it wound down.  They quit collecting the data in 1961, so that could be the end of it.