Thank you for posting HJG, and you are indeed welcome on this forum!

I'm going to play devil's advocate for a second.  It seems for us that are so pro-Cleveland that we take things in the worst light a lot of times.  Now Philip Morris's diatribe was just crap, that we can all agree on, but it does seem whenever various stories come out we feel that they are an attack on Cleveland, even though possibly they were not intended for that.  I think a lot of times we feel we are on the defense even if we need not be because we think everybody is trying to dig on the city.

I have commented on proabably every positive story on the .bomb website noting that this is what we need more of so I definitely know that they do champion good stories about the city sometimes. 

 

There has been a lot of negative press lately, due in large part to the economic downturn and I think for one second we just need to say some of this negative press is just reality and not a dig on our beloved city.  In accepting this reality hopefully we can move past fighting the PD and try to fight the issues that are creating the negative press, as much as we can. 

My problem lies much more with the outrageous negative editorializing that takes place in the paper than anything else.  It took me a whopping one sentence to get to it this morning...

 

"The $522 million Flats East Bank project has been put on hold -idling one of Cleveland's most anticipated developments and casting doubt about a range of plans to redefine the struggling city."

 

There is absolutely zero value in jamming struggling in there unless of course you just want to continuously beat it to death into the brains of your readers... I mean seriously... would that sentence not of been just fine as "casting doubt about a range of plans to redefine the city." 

 

It is reasons like this that the plain dealer is an absolute joke, and is borderline indefensible.  This happens ALL the time.  Why can't the PD just report the news without constantly ingraining negative editorializing into the regions head.  Is that so hard?

 

To illustrate my point, I'd love someone from the PD to explain this one (god knows I've written many times and no one has ever felt the need to grace me with a response).  We all know East 4th is a pretty big success story right?  This is one of my favorites, an excerpt from the beginning of an article on the bang and clatter:

"The gamble: That on a torn-up street in a desperate-to-be-cool downtown entertainment district  of depressed Cleveburg, these hiptidudes can produce in-yer-face theater in an abandoned shoe store they've transformed into a state-of-the-art smackdown forum."

Even the POSITIVE articles tear the city down.  How do they expect anyone to have a positive outlook on this town when every single day they jam this crap down our throat.  The PD belongs at the bottom of a bird cage.

 

ADD:

  And I'd REALLY love to here from someone about the Leila Atassi Ohio City Rape article that is quite frankly the single most irresponsible piece of journalism I have ever read in my entire life.  Someone will have to explain to me how an 18 month old rape of which the rapist had been convicted over 12 months ago and is currently sitting in prison... mind you the FRONT headline of a Sunday Metro Section, linked from the FRONT PAGE.  Someone is REALLY going to have to explain to me how that is NEWS, and not blatant FEAR MONGERING... "don't go to Ohio City, it's scary... BOO!".  In all seriousness I spent 18 months in New York.  I'm quite positive while I was there rapes, muggings, and murders took place in various parts of the city.  I am also quite certain that I never picked up the times or the post and had a huge headline splashed across the paper about a rape THAT TOOK PLACE 18 MONTHS AGO!

 

I know not every person who works at the PD is responsible for these types of journalistic atrocities, but it doesn't change the overall direction this worthless rag CHOOSES to take.

 

Maybe it's just me, but when I compare Crains to the PD I feel like I am reading about two different cities. While Crains acknowledges the City's problems, they don't try and weave negativity into every article.

Most concerning is that the PD no longer succeeds at doing what is the foremost responsibility of any paper with the size and scope it has, objectively and intelligently inform the masses on topics that have a direct impact locally.

 

No one is mentioning how the PD quickly endorsed the bailout bill in all of its many forms and absolutely ripped Kucinich and LaTourette for voting against it.  Now that legitimate concerns over the PNC-Nat City take under have arisen, the PD is quick to reverse their editorial stance.

 

How about instead of all the effort going towards muckraking they spend some time trying to be objective and do some actual groundwork on these issues to better inform the readership?  Fortunately, I do not count myself among those that look to the PD for this sort of insight, but plenty in this town still do.

"I understand we'll get the jabs when we mention Cleveland's poverty (true) and economic challenges (true) and crime (true)."

 

See, it would be one thing if those issues were "mentioned". However, some at the PD seem to feel that an article isn't complete without those issues being mentioned two or three times in every other article or column. Often, it's not relevant - and the only thing accomplished is a perpetuation of the negative editorializing. I should note that there are some who do a great job, providing the less-than-pleasant facts as just that - relevant facts. A prime example would be Michelle Jarboe; HJG, I'm not as familiar with yours so I can't say.

 

Is it sad that the PD is facing layoffs and people will lose their jobs? Sure. Are the PD's dwindling circulation numbers a shock to anyone? It shouldn't be, especially to quite a few at 1801 Superior - specifically those who feel the need to editorialize every other article like McCleveland has pointed out. A drop of 8.5% *should* be a sign that something isn't being done right, but what do we know, we're just "boosters" as I was called by one of the PD's finest for daring to question their thrashing of the DCA's anti-panhandling campaign. :roll:

 

I can't put it any better myself - "Why can't the PD just report the news without constantly ingraining negative editorializing into the regions head." If you (the folks at the PD) think the persistent negative editorializing equals "objective journalism" and is a good trend, be our guests. Just don't complain when your subscriber base continues to plummet and more people lose their jobs.

 

 

And I'd like to add, that I understand it's not all sunshine and rainbows.  When a project like the flats gets suspended, it SHOULD be reported on the front page.  Public corruption SHOULD be reported (as a matter of fact that should be one of the main tasks of a daily), certainly there are crime problems in PARTS of the city, and that is newsworthy.  I just don't understand why almost every other article has to be "In cleveland, the second poorest city in the country,..." 

 

And regarding that favorite tagline... wouldn't it be different if one of these days as opposed constantly jamming that line into people's heads, the PD ran a story about WHY we're always set up to fail in that particular ranking?  Maybe explain that it's an apples to oranges comparison and that because we have such an incredibly small geographic boundary (75ish square miles) it's almost impossible to compete in such a survey.  I mean the fact that people as close as Lakewood (4.6 miles from the center of public square) don't have their wealth counted... how is Cleveland supposed to compete with cities like Columbus (220some square miles), which basically has suburbs in the city proper.  I'm pretty sure if places like Lakewood, Rocky River, CH, UH, and Shaker were part of that equation we wouldn't be so "poor" let alone if you started counting places like Beachwood and Pepper Pike.  Ever think of running county poverty comparisons instead of city comparisons to show just how worthless a ranking like this is?  ALL "major" cities have a "ghetto" area that brings down numbers, when you have a city as geographically small as cleveland, that ghetto is going to show up quite a bit stronger in any sort of ranking.

 

And yet I digress... It would just be nice to see the Plain Dealer take a different approach, it's becoming unreadable.  And I agree with JMC reading Crain's and the PD are reading about 2 totally different cities.  Crains acknowledges the issues, challenges, and problems with the city but allows for the positive news to stand independent of those facts.... Which is why today was the last straw, and I just finished cancelling my PD subscription.

AMEN Mayor McCleveland and MayDay.

 

I feel that many of us older member remember when the PD and the Press were both competing for our readership and the internet was not added into the equation.

 

So many of the Plain Dealers reporters, writers, journalist are not residents of Cleveland but suburbanites.  Many are first generation suburbanites that live in the "remember when Cleveland...." times and do not represent nor relate to those living in the city proper.

I don't think anyone's asking the PD to stop reporting negative news stories. That would be ridiculous, and akin to a Communist country that is trying to control what the press can and cannot report ABOUT.

 

The PD has absolutely no right WHATSOEVER to take any kind of stance WHATSOEVER (aside from editorials, op-ed, etc) on its reporting. And the PD DOES, on a regular basis. That's our gripe. I honestly think that someone needs to show the PD what unbiased reporting is, because I feel like it doesn't even know what the difference is at this point. The PD believes they're giving an unbiased accout, but they're not.

^Exactly Jpop... A negative story is a negative story and is both understandable and necessary... Editorializing NEARLY EVERY story with negative comments is nothing short of ridiculous.  Which is why they will never get another dime of my money.

I will only subscribe to Crains.  The PD is more like those damn magazines at the counters of Giant Eagles than a reliable news source.  I say to hell with them.

^Exactly Jpop... A negative story is a negative story and is both understandable and necessary... Editorializing NEARLY EVERY story with negative comments is nothing short of ridiculous.  Which is why they will never get another dime of my money.

 

Agreed.  for a long time I kept my paper deliver because I wanted to suppor the "paper person" and the PC but I, like many others I know, cancelled my subscription and only read online.

 

The online version is a whole 'nother issue.

 

When the "Quiet Crisis" series ran several years ago, I had a friend who read every QC article. He would email me some of the articles. We would discuss these articles and he would tell me, "The PD said Cleveland ranks near the bottom in job growth" or "The PD said Cleveland is falling behind". I'm not kidding; he took every article to heart. I tried to tell him he shouldn't base his opinions of Cleveland just on the QC series. I tried to explain how our region was moving more to a service driven economy. I told him to read other outlets like Crains. I gave him articles to read about the global economy.  He just was not having it. My friend is no dummy; he graduated with a degree in Economics. However, he became so discouraged with Cleveland, after college he moved. He never looked for a job in the region. He was convinced Cleveland was a dead town, and nothing could bring it back. Media has a huge impact on how people view the world. Most people don't have the desire to dig deeper than the local paper to really understand what's going on.  Most people take what is written as gospel, and go about their day.  I think most of us on UO have strong interest in urban development; therefore we read numerous papers and articles. As a result, our worldview is much different than those who read the PD with passing interest. 

 

 

 

sir you couldn't be more right... for a reverse example of this I give you my future father in law, whom lives in antother state in a city that i look upon with horror.  This place doesn't have one tenth of the things that make Cleveland a great place to live... sitting across the table from him while we read that cities daily, he begins to get a big grin on his face, passes his section of the paper to me and exclaims, "see I told you the economy here was rock solid"... i read the article it was a COMPLETE fluff piece.  But that doesn't matter, what matters is that most people read their daily and recite it as gospel.  I can't tell you how many suburban friends I have that just regurgitate PD lines ad nauseum.  It's horrid how poorly they use that power around here.

Maybe it's just me, but when I compare Crains to the PD I feel like I am reading about two different cities. While Crains acknowledges the City's problems, they don't try and weave negativity into every article.

 

I agree, but to be fair, I have found the PD's Business section to be much less sensationalized than the rest of the paper.  Maybe it's the nature of business reporting- lots of facts and figures, with less room for editorializing language and "hooks."

i think i'd actually agree with you on that.

Maybe it's just me, but when I compare Crains to the PD I feel like I am reading about two different cities. While Crains acknowledges the City's problems, they don't try and weave negativity into every article.

 

I agree, but to be fair, I have found the PD's Business section to be much less sensationalized than the rest of the paper.  Maybe it's the nature of business reporting- lots of facts and figures, with less room for editorializing language and "hooks."

 

That and the "foodie" section.  The Dining section is the only section I can stand to read.

As a young person (I'm 27) who grew up in Mentor and am now living in Lyndhurst, I constantly hear from friends who read the PD and think because of what they read the city and region are headed nowhere, so they decide to move elsewhere.  For the most part they are intelligent people with college degrees, but the PD is their source of information and don't really care to look into anything further.  It's because of this that the PD has such a profound effect on the psyche of the region.  Without any facts or figures, I have a strong belief that the PD has had a indirect (could be close to direct) affect of young professionals choosing to move else where for "greener pastures".  It's almost humorous because they have written articles on how the region isn't doing enough to keep young professionals.  Ironic.

 

After reading reading all of this and my own experiences, I just knocked my 7 days a week subscription to just Sundays.  Sorry, my wife likes the coupons too much to completely get rid of it.

As a young person (I'm 27) who grew up in Mentor and am now living in Lyndhurst, I constantly hear from friends who read the PD and think because of what they read the city and region are headed nowhere, so they decide to move elsewhere.  For the most part they are intelligent people with college degrees, but the PD is their source of information and don't really care to look into anything further.  It's because of this that the PD has such a profound effect on the psyche of the region.  Without any facts or figures, I have a strong belief that the PD has had a indirect (could be close to direct) affect of young professionals choosing to move else where for "greener pastures".  It's almost humorous because they have written articles on how the region isn't doing enough to keep young professionals.  Ironic.

 

After reading reading all of this and my own experiences, I just knocked my 7 days a week subscription to just Sundays.  Sorry, my wife likes the coupons too much to completely get rid of it.

 

Cancel and tell her to go to www.coupons.com

 

ETA:

 

One thing I notice suburbanites and outer county residents fail to realize is that any negative image of Cleveland proper is, it hurts the ENTIRE REGION.

As a young person (I'm 27) who grew up in Mentor and am now living in Lyndhurst, I constantly hear from friends who read the PD and think because of what they read the city and region are headed nowhere, so they decide to move elsewhere.  For the most part they are intelligent people with college degrees, but the PD is their source of information and don't really care to look into anything further.  It's because of this that the PD has such a profound effect on the psyche of the region.  Without any facts or figures, I have a strong belief that the PD has had a indirect (could be close to direct) affect of young professionals choosing to move else where for "greener pastures".  It's almost humorous because they have written articles on how the region isn't doing enough to keep young professionals.  Ironic.

 

After reading reading all of this and my own experiences, I just knocked my 7 days a week subscription to just Sundays.  Sorry, my wife likes the coupons too much to completely get rid of it.

 

Cancel and tell her to go to www.coupons.com

 

ETA:

 

One thing I notice suburbanites and outer county residents fail to realize is that any negative image of Cleveland proper is, it hurts the ENTIRE REGION.

 

Thanks, I will have to check that site out and I couldn't agree with you more about the negative image.  It makes no sense to me why anyone would want the center of the region to be reflected poorly upon.

mj1403 -

 

I’m also 27, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. I know someone made this point somewhere up-thread, but many of the rankings the PD relies on compares cities with significantly larger boundaries. Rarely do you see in depth reporting explaining the nuisances of complex issues like poverty, crime, urban development or global economic trends. I'm not sure if some of you have experienced this, but I had to explain to one of my friends why NEO was so dependent on "blue collar" jobs. She thought the region was just backwards and dumb. I explained our area was once an economic powerhouse. I also told her our region was shifting from away manufacturing. I also told her Cleveland was booming city sixty-years ago, and Cleveland was one the largest cities in the country. She laughed, and said I was exaggerating. This is what we are fighting. Most people under the age of 30 think Cleveland has always been a backwards town with nothing to offer. In my opinion, if the PD is going to editorialize, they need to add context to some of these stories. Rather than pointing out the obvious, explain how we got here, and the people who are trying to change the region. Explain the global economy and how the emergence of China and India shifted manufacturing way from the United States. However, you never see this type of reporting in the PD. Sorry for the rant.

 

 

In my opinion, if the PD is going to editorialize, they need to add context to some of these stories. Rather than pointing out the obvious, explain how we got here, and the people who are trying to change the region. Explain the global economy and how the emergence of China and India shifted manufacturing way from the United States. However, you never see this type of reporting in the PD. Sorry for the rant.

 

Ding, ding, ding... would this really be SO hard?  No one is saying don't report "negative" news if it happens... just stop negative editorialzing, and perhaps add a little context and clarification next time rather than hitting me in the head with the "poorest city in america" bat for 18,000th time.

  My wife and I just canceled our daily subscription.  I am soooo tired of reading this negative slant.  We live downtown and we are tired of explaining to our friends and family that we do not live in constant danger.  I travel a lot and have lived in many cities throughout the country.  In the 10 years we have lived here, I think the PD has done more harm spreading its propaganda than any single entity I can think of.  When I talk to local people about Cleveland (or when I used to read the PD), I can not believe they are talking about the same city I live in.  Something has to be done to change this constant stream of propaganda.  Maybe some of the articles written about Cleveland should be written by reporters who actually live in Cleveland or at least know and understand Cleveland!!!

I cancelled when I first moved downtown.  Like TMH said, it was hard to believe the articles were talking about the same city I was experiencing around me.

My parents are considering canceling their subscription as well, but I really doubt they will.

I hope you're listening, HJG.

well I have posted before, but we are long time "cancellers". It is garbage in every sense the word. Between the anti city agenda and bizarre support or slamming of some entities....not even journalism. This paper is  sad and possibly beyond repair.

I spent some time reading through that old Quiet Crisis series today.  I actually thought it was quite good.  Not everything was negative, but I think they pretty much told it like it is.  I'm not that familiar with Cleveland I'll be the first to admit, but many of the suggestions they made for the city seemed like good advice and much of it is not dissimilar from what I've told Indy and other places.

 

The metrics are Cleveland are just plain awful.  I agree the "storyline" of decline is probably overplayed.  Why not pick on California about foreclosures for example?  But the evisceration of the local economy, the lack of immigration, the population implosion, low educational attainment, etc. are all real and easily verified by consulting the standard sources.

 

I happen to think Cleveland and Ohio and can turn it around.  Unlike, say, Detroit, Cleveland does not suffer the twin problems of being single-industry dependent and so big that there is just a gigantic mouth to feed.  Cleveland's got assets like the lake, the Cleveland Clinic, and it's transit infrastructure (which is probably one of the best for any city its size in the country and probably the best in the Midwest outside Chicago).  But there is a huge amount to be done.  Cleveland doesn't just have a marketing problem.

 

agreed, there is more than a marketing problem....but the PD just lo brows, sensationalizes, or puts their own spin on every issue

I think everyone is getting a case of mob hysteria. I agree with everyone's comments regarding the blatant negative editorializing of most every article; however, you cannot say that the entire rag is a piece of trash. HJG, for example, is not part of the cancer. Steve Litt _although I may not agree with everything he preaches, is a good writer, too. John Pectovich is entertaining as well ,and does a great job sharing the love of Clevo-land.

 

I think I have said this before, but I'll say it again. What the PD people need to do is add some of the features they used to put in the paper that was fun and educational. I used to love reading the "Today in Cleveland's History" bit. Perhaps they could have a weekly piece where they highlighted some public art display. There is so much freaking public art here in the city (as us UOers know) they could do something different every week for the next ten years and not run out of stuff. Maybe do a contest like Games magazine used to have: Eyeball Benders. Hell, there is a whole bunch of content here on UO that they could use (with proper licencing, of course)

 

And for god's sake - get rid of some of those comics that have been around since Rob was a kid. ;)

I agree the entire  "rag"  :lol: is not always terrible, but if there is predictably a giant turd somewhere in your bowl of Wheaties nearly every morning, you lose your appetite quickly

I hope you're listening, HJG.

 

It's not HJG that should be listening.

 

These folks should read what weve posted.

http://www.plaindealer.com/contact/contact_exec.php

I hope you're listening, HJG.

 

It's not HJG that should be listening.

 

These folks should read what weve posted.

http://www.plaindealer.com/contact/contact_exec.php

 

Well, for now, he's the most direct voice/ear we have on here.

 

Susan should get a profile set up on UO. :-D

I hope you're listening, HJG.

 

It's not HJG that should be listening.

 

These folks should read what weve posted.

http://www.plaindealer.com/contact/contact_exec.php

 

Well, for now, he's the most direct voice/ear we have on here.

 

Susan should get a profile set up on UO. ;D

 

Yeah but it doesn't appear that he/she is in a position of authority, has stated his views are his own not the Plain Dealers and it's unfair of us to anoint him the UO liaison to the Plain Dealer.  ;)

I think everyone is getting a case of mob hysteria. I agree with everyone's comments regarding the blatant negative editorializing of most every article; however, you cannot say that the entire rag is a piece of trash. HJG, for example, is not part of the cancer. Steve Litt _although I may not agree with everything he preaches, is a good writer, too. John Pectovich is entertaining as well ,and does a great job sharing the love of Clevo-land.

 

I think I have said this before, but I'll say it again. What the PD people need to do is add some of the features they used to put in the paper that was fun and educational. I used to love reading the "Today in Cleveland's History" bit. Perhaps they could have a weekly piece where they highlighted some public art display. There is so much freaking public art here in the city (as us UOers know) they could do something different every week for the next ten years and not run out of stuff. Maybe do a contest like Games magazine used to have: Eyeball Benders. Hell, there is a whole bunch of content here on UO that they could use (with proper licencing, of course)

 

And for god's sake - get rid of some of those comics that have been around since Rob was a kid. ;)

 

Yeah...watch out...people may start heading down Superior with pitch forks and torches!  :evil: :laugh:

 

Seriously though, I agree that PD may be repairable and that is another reason why I have kept the Sunday issue.  Sunday Arts, Sports, and like I said before, my wife likes the coupons (I emailed her the site MyTwoSense and she's looking into it!).  Until another daily paper comes along that I can get good regional news coverage from or I feel like they have stopped some of the tired and played lines that we constantly see, they won't get more money from me than that.

 

Edit: And yes, I have sent them an email let them know this!

"Steve Litt _although I may not agree with everything he preaches, is a good writer, too."

 

A good writer, yes - part of the "perpetuating negativity" crew? You tell me...

 

"Cleveland has a legendary case of low self-esteem, born of a half-century of economic decline and a generation's worth of jokes about a certain flammable waterway."

 

"The problem is that Cleveland's slide in vitality, population and status since World War II has been accompanied by an equally long slide in design standards and achievement."

 

"For Cleveland, a city coping with crime, poverty, a shrinking population and a mortgage meltdown in many neighborhoods, the new designs offer a solid indication that the future might be very different."

 

"It’s tough to be a Clevelander in a year pepper-sprayed with news about crime and poverty, population loss and suburban sprawl."

 

^I would definitely put Litt in the same crowd.  He, unfortunately, is another that likes to throw in those negative comments about the city, in articles which are supposed to be about ARCHITECTURE.

"Steve Litt _although I may not agree with everything he preaches, is a good writer, too."

 

A good writer, yes - part of the "perpetuating negativity" crew? You tell me...

 

"Cleveland has a legendary case of low self-esteem, born of a half-century of economic decline and a generation's worth of jokes about a certain flammable waterway."

 

"The problem is that Cleveland's slide in vitality, population and status since World War II has been accompanied by an equally long slide in design standards and achievement."

 

"For Cleveland, a city coping with crime, poverty, a shrinking population and a mortgage meltdown in many neighborhoods, the new designs offer a solid indication that the future might be very different."

 

"Its tough to be a Clevelander in a year pepper-sprayed with news about crime and poverty, population loss and suburban sprawl."

 

 

I would actually, often times, agree with what he says. Cleveland's design standards are often times not up to par, and his voice is needed to push the standards higher.

 

But I do agree that he adds unnecessary commentary about the city itself to his articles. I agree with Oldmanladyluck on that. But I don't think we should fear his critiques on the architecture itself. Cleveland's design standards are very often mediocre, and we, as a city, should be expecting more.

I swear to God, this is getting f*cking ridiculous. This is making me so angry!!!!!!!!!

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/10/cleveland_deemed_a_mustmiss_de.html

 

Cleveland deemed a 'must-miss' destination

Posted by Sarah Crump/Plain Dealer Reporter October 31, 2008 22:59PM

 

Headlines get read more than articles do, and reinforce the negativity. Perhaps the PD should adhere to this paragraph in this story.....

 

Enough, already. It's time the city quit being an urban punching bag, said Dennis Roche, president of Positively Cleveland. "We're fed up with these false characterizations of our city. They are ill-informed and laughable."

 

To me, "Enough, already" should be the name of a campaign against unwarranted or unnecessarily negative press and publicity about our beloved city. "Move On" was the name of a campaign against Republican preoccupation with the Clinton sex scandal that grew. "Enough, already" should be our campaign.

KJP, your editing was no better than the headline writer.  The implication from your post is that Sarah Crump labeled Cleveland as "must miss", which was far from true.

The problem that I have with this isn't that it's reported. It's that it's front page news.

 

I mean .. there are WARS and shit going on around the world. Why isn't THAT front page news??

^I feel you. Also, Dennis Roche is right, when are we going to stop being the "urban punching bag". I'm getting a little tired of these characterizations. 

I agree- its very angering

It seems like they are searching this stuff out now.  This is not reporting the news, this is not even necessary. I will say though that her comment at the bottom to send this guy emails should be taken seriously by everybody on these boards. 

Is anybody else as sick of this sh!t as I am?!!  AHHHH!!

 

^I feel you. Also, Dennis Roche is right, when are we going to stop being the "urban punching bag". I'm getting a little tired of these characterizations. 

 

It's time the PD get that picture, as they are the MAIN media group that characterizes the city in this type of way!!!

"It's time the PD get that picture, as they are the MAIN media group that characterizes the city in this type of way!!!"

 

If self-destruction is the picture they're going for, they get it loud and clear. The more they perpetuate the overly-negative mentality, the more people will 1. drop their subscriptions, 2. the more staff they'll have to lay off, and 3. the more that people who buy into it will leave the region.

#3 is my thoughts exactly:

 

The Cleveland Plain Dealer, brought to you buy the Atlanta Chamber of Commerce!

Do you think there is a chance they don't understand the fact that as they chase people away from Cleveland, they will have less subscribers?  Could their entire corporation possibly be that dumb? 

Here is the authors email address, let's send him some lovely thoughts on C-town.

[email protected]

 

Might not be bad to find his publisher and cc them also.

I wrote him, did anyone else?