August 25, 200618 yr nice they are coming back ,but dont think the are inventing the wheel here. there are many of these in smaller towns all over ne ohio and even all over ohio (troy, somerset, taramack circle development in northland columbus). the ne ohio versions go back to the preferred style of the western reserve/connecticut history. and seems like they forgot all about university circle? don't ya love lazy journalism and developer, etc. hype? They explain the reasoning behind the term "modern roundabout" in the article. Ask KJP. He's the journalist around here.
August 25, 200618 yr Like we should ask you to speak for all drunken hicks as to why they say stupid things to incite fighting? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 25, 200618 yr nice they are coming back ,but dont think the are inventing the wheel here. there are many of these in smaller towns all over ne ohio and even all over ohio (troy, somerset, taramack circle development in northland columbus). the ne ohio versions go back to the preferred style of the western reserve/connecticut history. and seems like they forgot all about university circle? don't ya love lazy journalism and developer, etc. hype? They explain the reasoning behind the term "modern roundabout" in the article. yeah and i called developer bs. been there, done that.
August 25, 200618 yr ^ Well, you may disagree with his point. I disagreed with the usage of the term "lazy", because the journalist went out of his way to explain his point. "Wrong", I might go with.
August 25, 200618 yr no, lazy because he could have done a better job with the history of these things. after all, the big picture is that they are all over the place old and new, large and small. instead, looks like he fell for the developer and local political hype about it too much. and dont give me that roundabout is different from a traffic circle nonsense. to put it in fashion terms, that's just the new black. bah.
August 25, 200618 yr I had a problem with his point because he said I should be asked to speak for all journalists, including those who are lazy and hype crazy. That's like me asking a mayor why politicians are corrupt and grandstand on issues, or asking an attorney why they chase ambulances, or asking a rural citizens why they're drunk and uneducated. If you don't have the ability to judge people one at a time, then spare us the offense of your shortcomings. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 25, 200618 yr Like we should ask you to speak for all drunken hicks as to why they say stupid things to incite fighting? Or you for all the snobish urbanites who proclam themselves to be better than the rest of society?
August 25, 200618 yr Personally, I speak for all overweight, out of shape drunk guys who pretend to love the outdoors despite never actually, you know, camping or hiking and stuff...
August 26, 200618 yr The older "roundabouts" mentioned (troy, somerset, etc) are Traffic Circles which aren't the same as a roundabout. If you live or work in Dublin, you better get used to them because the City Engineer loves them and there are several being designed right now. I'm designing the roundabout at Avery Road and Tuswell Drive (between Shier-Rings and Woerner-Temple). The longterm plan for Avery Road is to have a roundabout at all three of the above stated intersections. Dublin is also looking to place roundabouts at the ends of the exit ramps coming off of US33.
September 5, 200618 yr From ThisWeek Hilliard, 8/31/06: Roundabouts discussed with school board Thursday, August 31, 2006 By CATHY WOGAN ThisWeek Staff Writer The leveling of buildings along Cemetery Road prompted speculation that triangle roundabouts were being installed, according to Hilliard Mayor Don Schonhardt. Schonhardt, joined by Service Director Butch Seidle and Traffic Engineer Letty Schamp, addressed the roundabout issue during a Monday night meeting of the Hilliard City Schools Board of Education... http://www.thisweeknews.com/index.php?story=sites/thisweeknews/083106/Hilliard/News/083106-News-215626.html
September 7, 200618 yr The older "roundabouts" mentioned (troy, somerset, etc) are Traffic Circles which aren't the same as a roundabout. If you live or work in Dublin, you better get used to them because the City Engineer loves them and there are several being designed right now. I'm designing the roundabout at Avery Road and Tuswell Drive (between Shier-Rings and Woerner-Temple). The longterm plan for Avery Road is to have a roundabout at all three of the above stated intersections. Dublin is also looking to place roundabouts at the ends of the exit ramps coming off of US33. not really. you also just as easily could say they are a modern version of the same old thing whatever you want to call it or however you want to slice and dice them. one thing is crystal clear -- it's developerspeak hype much more than it is honest difference.
November 22, 200618 yr From ThisWeek New Albany, 11/16/06: Morse/U.S. 62 roundabout construction is under way Neibarger's efforts protect the protectors Thursday, November 16, 2006 By MIRIAM SEGALOFF ThisWeek Staff Writer Work on the much-anticipated roundabout at the intersection of Morse Road and U.S. Route 62 began recently. The project has been nearly a decade in the making and involves at least four jurisdictions and more than $7-million in county and state funds. "We've been waiting a long time," Gahanna city engineer Karl Wetherholt said. "We started the project off several years ago. Now to actually have it started is good." http://www.thisweeknews.com/index.php?sec=newalbany&story=sites/thisweeknews/111606/NewAlbany/News/111606-News-260833.html
December 15, 200618 yr Delaware plans Rt. 315 roundabout Fate of Orange Road bridge not finalized JANE HAWES / COLUMBUS DISPATCH December 14, 2006 MAP: Proposed Roundabout Location Columbus Dispatch POWELL — Two roads will become one, but there’s no decision on the fate of a historic bridge. That was the plan presented last night at a forum to discuss Delaware County’s Orange Road bridge project. After nearly eight months of analyzing five options, the county engineer’s office selected one but added a twist: Orange Road will be rerouted north to join Carriage Road, and a roundabout will be built on Rt. 315 at their juncture... [email protected] http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2006/12/14/20061214-D7-00.html
February 25, 200718 yr ROUNDABOUT ACCIDENTS ‘Learning curve’ for Hilliard motorists Sunday, February 25, 2007 Dean Narciso THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH Two new roundabouts in Hilliard were intended to improve traffic safety, but they have proved to be hazards to some motorists. Nine crashes have been reported at the roundabouts on Britton Parkway since they opened in late August... By comparison, Dublin?s first roundabout, at Muirfield Drive and Brand Road, had one accident in its first six months and three in the first year, said Dublin Police Sgt. Ed Gozoski, who heads the traffic-enforcement unit. [email protected] http://dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2007/02/25/20070225-C1-00.html
February 26, 200718 yr With snow on the pavement, motorists won't know what lane it is they are supposed to stay in. Then the motorists will drive where ever they want to. I don't see how this is distinct from the circles on Gates Mills Blvd at Shaker, Lander, and SOM Center roads.
February 28, 200718 yr In the I-75 / I-74 area in Cincinnati: Currently, ODOT is recommending alternative COL-A ("COL" stands for "Colerain"), see image below. However, the Community Council is pushing for alternative COL-B, see image below. While both alternatives give Northside full access to north- and south-bound I-75 and east- and west-bound I-74, COL-B includes two roundabouts, circled in red in the image for COL-B. These would be unique in the tri-state area. We hope that we can use the uniqueness of these features as a marketing device to draw people to the neighborhood. http://www.northside.net http://www.northside.net/images/I-74-75%20Exit%20and%20Entrance/COL_A_large_with_name.jpg http://www.northside.net/images/I-74-75%20Exit%20and%20Entrance/COL_B_large_with_highlights.jpg
March 1, 200718 yr That sounds like a great idea, but sure enough ODOT is recommending the crappier one of the two. COL-B would be great, and would actually beautify an otherwise un-beautiful feature....a roadway. Good luck, and keep us posted!
March 1, 200718 yr This is not technically Ohio, but is sure as heck part of the Cincy metro. This is what GBBN is proposing for the 'Ovation' site in Newport...there are a couple of roundabouts located in the plan: http://www.gbbn.com/pub/photos/lg/sxaAtBDYcZhAzc.jpg
March 1, 200718 yr If you want to see how well roundabouts can work for a city and increase traffic flow while allowing for traffic calming at the same time visit Carmel, IN. They now have 50 roundabouts in the city and are still building more. Accidents have drop, traffic flow has become better and they add to the aesthetics of the community. (Not bad for a road project) http://www.ci.carmel.in.us/services/engineering.html Scroll down to the bottom of the page to see videos and info on roundabouts.
July 16, 200717 yr Not in Ohio but... NKU roundabout on schedule It will be a first for Northern Ky. BY JOSEPH SZYDLOWSKI | CINCINNATI POST July 16, 2007 Northern Kentucky University students can expect a new sight when they return to school in the fall: Northern Kentucky's first roundabout. Located at the intersection of University and Nunn drives off U.S. 27, the $2.2 million project is on schedule, university officials said. "Right now, everything is progressing very, very well," said Ken Ramey, vice president for administration and finance at NKU. "We'll be ready to go by the start of the fall semester."
August 30, 200717 yr http://www.wnewsj.com/main.asp?SectionID=49&SubSectionID=156&ArticleID=158018 WNEWSJ.COM 8/29/2007 7:38:00 AM Marine Meadows plan approved The concept plan for development of a 90-acres site on Prairie Avenue was approved Tuesday by the Wilmington City Planning Commission which received lots of input from residents who filled a room at city hall. The property, owned by local vehicle dealer Bill Marine, will be known as Marine Meadows Subdivision. The proposed residential development, located at the Prairie Avenue end of Lowe's Drive, has caused concern among nearby Denver Addition residents. The residents don't want their streets to end up serving as passageways for traffic generated by the planned development.
August 20, 200816 yr Big changes for Hopple interchange By Margaret A. McGurk • [email protected] • August 20, 2008 http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080820/NEWS01/308200019 When the Hopple Street interchange with Interstate 75 is rebuilt in a few years, it could look very different from traditional expressway interchanges. The Cincinnati Planning Commission will hear a presentation Friday on two potential new looks for the rebuilt interchange. One of the plans, if it passes technical muster, would use so-called urban roundabouts to handle traffic where Hopple Street, Martin Luther King Drive and Central Parkway converge with traffic onto and off of I-75.
August 20, 200816 yr Single lane roundabouts are very nice. When you start getting into double lane roundabouts, it can get a bit daunting / confusing, but all in all, roundabouts are an excellent alternative to a traffic signal and can be a very, very effective traffic calming measure. Also, they tend to be aesthetically pleasing.
August 22, 200816 yr The drivers at the West 14th roundabout are getting better, but still mess it up many times. The still use the right lane to proceed to West 14th northbound, causing a dangerous situation. That's my fear about new roundabouts. They should be a more efficient traffic flow generator, but because roughtly 50% of drivers can't understand/follow traffic signage, it often creates a hazard.
August 29, 200816 yr The drivers at the West 14th roundabout are getting better, but still mess it up many times. The still use the right lane to proceed to West 14th northbound, causing a dangerous situation. That's my fear about new roundabouts. They should be a more efficient traffic flow generator, but because roughtly 50% of drivers can't understand/follow traffic signage, it often creates a hazard. If we build enough of them people we learn how to use a roundabout just like they know how to use a stoplight. Communities that have constructed dozens of roundabouts have less issue with people understanding how they function. I am sure when they put up the first few stoplights people had some confusion over them as well.
August 29, 200816 yr You'd think that, wouldn't you? Maryland has lots of roundabouts.... yet one of the double roundabouts has a lot of accidents because of confusion several years after the fact. The truth is that double lane roundabouts aren't as clear cut as some people think they are, and it will take a lot of education to drive through something so deceptively simple.
July 21, 200915 yr I found this on Slate.Com. It makes a pretty good argument for modern roundabouts and the difference between them and traffic circles, though sortof ignores the difficulty of navigating on foot or bike. Don't Be So Square Why American drivers should learn to love the roundabout. By Tom Vanderbilt
July 21, 200915 yr Love round-a-bouts... Once people learn how to use them, they are no problem on foot, bike, or in vehicle. Don't get me wrong, there are badly designed ones. But overall, I loved these while living in Oz. At first, I hated them..But then after while... I saw the benefits. One obvious benefit if you live at an intersection with a stop light.. These would help prevent those who are discourteous, from sitting in front of your home blasting you with audio assault.
July 21, 200915 yr Interesting they use the Kingston, NY roundabout as an example. Kingston is my hometown and I can tell you that it's a mess (the roundabout....I'll reserve judgment on the town for some other day). The problem is that it's not an urban roundabout. It's the connector between the NY Thruway, state route 28, which goes into the Catskills, and two feeder roads that lead into different parts of the city proper. From three of the four roads, people are hitting the roundabout at speeds of roughly 50-55 mph. Given that it used to be a larger traffic circle, and that upstate NY'ers are obstinate with regard to changes in traffic patterns, there is still, years later, a ton of confusion as to who is doing what, and at what speed they should be doing it. Combine that with a couple extra side lanes designed to sidestep the roundabout in a couple instances, and you have bedlam. Edit: Behold, the Kingston NY roundabout. If you look closely, you can see the white sillouette of what was the original traffic circle up through the 90's http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=41.943813~-74.028521&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1
July 22, 200915 yr It annoys me when people don't understand how to drive around the roundabout on UC's campus at the entrance of the CCM parking garage. People always drive clockwise (on the left side of the center island) when going from the Varsity Village garage to Corry St. I think UC needs to install some "one way" signs on the center island to reinforce the concept.
July 25, 200915 yr Roundabouts get own how-to video Saturday, July 25, 2009 3:09 AM By Elizabeth Gibson THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH Roundabouts, touted as safer and more efficient than traditional intersections, still lead to sweaty palms for thousands of suburban drivers every day. Now, they have joined the ranks of issues just confusing enough to require an informational video. Dublin, Hilliard, Gahanna, the Mid-Ohio Regional Planning Commission and Franklin and Delaware counties have teamed up to create an eight-minute online video to help drivers approach roundabouts with confidence. [email protected] http://dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/07/25/roundabout.ART_ART_07-25-09_B1_JOEJ0KP.html?sid=101 Interactive video at: http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/multimedia/graphics/2009/roundabout.html
July 28, 200915 yr This is a great idea. People can watch the videos on their portable DVD players, as they drive their cars through the roundabout.
November 9, 200915 yr Safety of roundabouts debated in Hilliard Monday, November 9, 2009 3:04 AM By Dean Narciso THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH Hilliard has proposed building two roundabouts at this triangular intersection. But others have concerns about safety, especially considering the number of schools close by. Traffic experts, engineers and some city officials promote roundabouts as easy to navigate, good for the environment and safe for motorists and pedestrians. Others, including some school administrators, parents and people who like to walk, have their doubts about the increasingly popular traffic circles. Full story at: http://dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/11/09/pedsafety.ART_ART_11-09-09_B1_60FJLP3.html?sid=101
January 17, 201312 yr Deadly intersection will get roundabout Clark County could get Ohio’s first high speed approach roundabout. "Officials have tried since the 1970s to reduce accidents at the Pike Twp. intersection of Ohio 235 and 41. The new plan is to build the first roundabout in Clark County and likely the first in the state where the speed limit is 55 mph on all four sides." http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/news/transportation/deadly-intersection-will-get-roundabout/nTybb/
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