Damn. Just when I was started to learn something!  :wink:

Be careful KJP....You dont want the HBIC to hit you with the three towers evil queen pic!  :-D

great summary of the neighborhhood - don't really get a chance to enjoy what's there from the driver's seat of a car!!

 

 

what the hell? i just reread the 1990 and 2000 racial diversity census stats on this thread. i though cle was gaining in chinatown and overall, not losing asian population? someone please explain. i am also surprized african american became a majority only in the 2000 census, i thought it was before that.  :mrgreen:  guess not.

 

 

Cleveland 1990:

 

RACIAL DIVERSITY:

White: 49.6%

African American: 46.6%

Asian/Pacific Islander: 4.4%

Hispanic Origin: 4.4%

 

 

Cleveland 2000:

 

RACIAL DIVERSITY:

White: 41.5%

African American: 51.0%

Asian/Pacific Islander: 1.3%

Hispanic Origin: 7.3%

 

We should double check those numbers.  I'm pretty sure Cleveland's Asian pop was never 4.4% of its total.

 

Edit: I did just that:

 

As per the City Planning Commission website:

 

1990 Asian/Pac. Isl.=5,115 people or 1.0%

2000 Asian/Pac. Isl.=6,622 people or 1.4%

I'm under the impression that Cleveland's Hispanic population is growing. If that's correct, and if it's growing faster than the Asian population, that could have kept the Asian percentages from growing larger. What's the data on that?

what the hell? i just reread the 1990 and 2000 racial diversity census stats on this thread. i though cle was gaining in chinatown and overall, not losing asian population? someone please explain. i am also surprized african american became a majority only in the 2000 census, i thought it was before that.  :mrgreen:  guess not.

 

Asian-Americans are probably the most socially mobile in the US. That is, they are able to move from the lower-class urban areas and out into the suburbs relatively quickly, which I'm sure contributes to the slow growth in the city proper.

While the city-proper growth of Asian Americans in Cleveland has been pretty stagnant, Asiatown has seen a pretty remarkable increase over the last couple decades; some of this has been due to out-migration (The Goodrich-Kirtland neighborhood shrank from 5,737 residents in 1980 to 4,295 in 2000), but there have still been substantial real gains in the number of Asian residents:

 

1980 - 427 Asian residents in Goodrich-Kirtland (7.4% of neighborhood population)

1990 - 723 Asian residents (16.0%)

2000 - 1,111 Asian residents (25.9%)

 

That's a 160% increase in real numbers and a 250% increase in concentration as a percentage of neighborhood racial composition over a 20-year period. Looking at the neighborhood, I don't anticipate this trend reversing, unless the neighborhood starts to gentrify at a much more rapid pace. Even then, you might see the gentrifiers moving into industrial buildings (like Tyler Village), while the Asian population continues to dominate the single-family homes in the neighborhood; this might lead to a drop in percentage of Asian residents but not a drop in real numbers.

8SOG, where are those stats from? NEOCANDO?

It's census data, as reported by the Cleveland Planning Commission: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/census/factsheets/spa18.html.

if we can get back to topic (ahem!), I'd like to say, that being fairly new in town (three months) and looking around for a permanent neighborhood, these are my impressions of Asia town.  I have been there about ten times, mainly to Koko bakery and twice in the evening to a bar there (Sweethearts, I think). I kind of like Asia town. It does lack some things though. It doesn't have mature trees like some neighborhoods. I do like the smallish houses though I think they may need some work. Also, if one wants to live a car-free life, I've noticed that the bus service is excellent and a quick ride to downtown.

 

As far as Ohio City goes, I don't think I'd like to live there either. I have noticed some very loud sounding dogs barking when I walk by houses, more so than in the Ecovillage neighborhood or West Park for example.

 

So, although I know that many people on this board like Ohio City, maybe it isn't viewed the same way by everyone. If someone wants to live in the City of Cleveland, no matter which neighborhood, I give them credit for choosing the city over the suburbs.

Congratulations all of you. For the record, there have been plenty of people (including those who have been given the privilege of being moderators) from both Cincy AND Cleveland who have been a little too f#cking sensitive about any comment made about their respective cities. All of you, get over yourselves.