Posted October 31, 200618 yr http://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/travel/detroit/d34.htm "BISHOP'S RESIDENCE In 1924-1926 this house was built as the official residence of Michael J. Gallagher (1866-1937), the Catholic bishop of Detroit. In 1937, Detroit became an archdiocese and Edward Cardinal Mooney resided here as archbishop until he died unexpectedly in Rome in 1958. The following year John Francis Dearden, the bishop of Pittsburgh, was appointed to the See of Detroit. He retired in 1980 and lived here until his death in 1988. No longer needed as an episcopal residence, the house was sold by the archdiocese in 1989. In order to convert the house for use as a private residence, the archdiocese removed all religious objects from the house--the papal throne, relics, the altar and the stations of the cross-- and declared the ground "profane" (no longer hallowed).
October 31, 200618 yr Beautiful homes. Isn't Palmer Woods next to some of the worst ghetto in Detroit? Around 7 Mile, correct?
October 31, 200618 yr The Green Acres sub just north of here is gorgeous as well; more neighborbood scale, less the mansion showplace. Great shots. Take that, suburbs! Did you get shots of the awesome Frank Lloyd Wright house on Six Mile (okay, McNichols)?
October 31, 200618 yr Detroit's Mile Roads run east west, perpendicular to Woodward Ave (M1) and move northward in 1-mile increments. Near as I've always calculated, Warren Avenue is "1 mile," though you'd never, ever hear it called that. (WIKIs "Detroit," "Mile Roads," comes back). Yes. Warren is 1 Mile, Michigan Ave. is "0 Mile." The rest of the list: 2 Mile - Joy Road 3 Mile - Plymouth Road 4 Mile - Schoolcraft Avenue (Detroit); Schoolcraft Road (now the service drive for I-96) Note that the 0-4 Mile roads are not signed as such - it remains unclear if they were ever signed as Mile Roads. 5 Mile - Fenkell Avenue (Detroit); 5 Mile Road (west of Detroit) 6 Mile - McNichols Road and Charles (Detroit); 6 Mile Road (west of Detroit) 7 Mile - 7 Mile Road (Detroit and suburbs); 8 Mile - 8 Mile Road (Detroit and suburbs); Base Line Road (west of Detroit); Also signed as M-102 from Grand River Avenue to Vernier Road. Note that below 6 Mile, you seldom if ever hear the roads called by their Mile Road. 6 Mile/McNichols is one of those "You know you're from Detroit if..." things. Natives call it 6 Mile. Outsiders, McNichols. The mile roads continue on northward as far as 32-mile. Check out the WIKI article for more details. Psychologically, the mile roads define you as a city dweller or suburbanite. 8 Mile, as we know, is the border with Detroit. Some benchmarks as we move northward up Woodward: 8-9 Mile - Ferndale Hazel Park, Royal Oak TOWNSHIP 9-10 Mile - Ferndale 10 Mile - Royal Oak, Pleasant Ridge, Huntington Woods, Oak Park 11 Mile - Berkeley 10-14 Mile - Royal Oak 14-16 Mile - Birmingham 16-18 Mile - Bloomfields 19 Mile+ - Pontiac Beyond that, I've never really cared.
October 31, 200618 yr Each "mile" road runs paralell and they're spaced a mile apart, so 8 mile is a mile north of 7 mile but runs parallel. Kinda like how interstate exit numbers correlate to milage. Edit: Nevermind, too late :]
October 31, 200618 yr The Green Acres sub just north of here is gorgeous as well; more neighborbood scale, less the mansion showplace. Great shots. Take that, suburbs! Did you get shots of the awesome Frank Lloyd Wright house on Six Mile (okay, McNichols)? No I didn't but I will sometime.
October 31, 200618 yr Wow...that first house raises some questions about the Catholic church. And answers quite a few, as well. Profane, indeed.
October 31, 200618 yr ^I wouldn't target only the Catholic church. There are many denominations (protestant and catholic) that had lavish residences for the clergy back in the day.
October 31, 200618 yr Nice pics by the way. I wanna see pictures of the industrial park Detroit paid out the ass and used eminent domain for to knock down churches, dig up graves etc to cater to GM and their Cadillac plant. Any pics?
October 31, 200618 yr How about some pictures of Highland Park? That place is interesting. Or Hamtramck? Or Downtowns Royal Oak and Birmingham?
October 31, 200618 yr David and wimwar- I don't have pics of either of those places but I can get some soon.
October 31, 200618 yr Nice pics by the way. I wanna see pictures of the industrial park Detroit paid out the ass and used eminent domain for to knock down churches, dig up graves etc to cater to GM and their Cadillac plant. Any pics? That would be the GM Poletown Assembly Plant south of Hamtramck. Just picture a sprawling maximum security prison with excellent freeway access, only uglier. EDIT: Prepare to be dazzled: http://bentley.umich.edu/bhl/mhchome/detroit/images/bl004030.jpg
October 31, 200618 yr They literallly dug up graves to build this thing!!? It doesn't even seem like it would have been worth it to keep GM in Detroit. I'm guessing the city helped them with the Ren Cen rennovation too? Detroit is very dense and grid-like; its sad to see that land used like that. What a juxtaposition.
October 31, 200618 yr They actually built the plant around the Beth Olem Cemetary. It's only open twice a year on the Sundays before Rosh Hashana and Passover... ...but the Fabulous Ruins of Detroit phototour of this and other lost places of Jewish workship is open 24/7: http://shtetlhood.com/Beth_Olem.htm They literallly dug up graves to build this thing!!? It doesn't even seem like it would have been worth it to keep GM in Detroit. I'm guessing the city helped them with the Ren Cen rennovation too? Detroit is very dense and grid-like; its sad to see that land used like that. What a juxtaposition. What preceded the Poletown plant was the Dodge Main plant, a large plant by any definition, but outdated and tiny in all the ways modern plants are concerned. Dodge Main was actually integrated seamlessly into the fabric of the surrounding neighborhoods in Detroit to the south, east and west and Hamtramck to the north. The north gates opened up into the Jos. Campau shopping dictrict. Three times a day, thousands of thirsty autoworkers flooded the streets on foot. Is there any confusion as to why Hamtramck still has the highest number of liquor licenses per capita of any incorporated city? The newer residents aren't such big drinkers, though (Muslims). The newer Poletown Assembly plant is completely cut off from Hamtramck and the surrounding neighborhoods, and most of the employees commute from as far away as Saginaw and Toledo. Why'd GM keep it in Detroit? Companies like GM like land giveaways and tax abatements, and local politicians like huge development on their watch. Sad, shameful, and nowadays, pretty much inevitable.
October 31, 200618 yr I always found it humorous that Detroit's more "well-off" neighborhoods are near/on 8 Mile Road and Oakland County's worst suburbs (Southfield, etc) are also near 8 Mile Road. Perception...indeed. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 31, 200618 yr I always found it humorous that Detroit's more "well-off" neighborhoods are near/on 8 Mile Road and Oakland County's worst suburbs (Southfield, etc) are also near 8 Mile Road. Perception...indeed. Just goes to show how far trash blows.
October 31, 200618 yr I always found it humorous that Detroit's more "well-off" neighborhoods are near/on 8 Mile Road and Oakland County's worst suburbs (Southfield, etc) are also near 8 Mile Road. Perception...indeed. Yeah, its a color boundary a lot more than one of economic status. That Bishop's house reminds me so much of CCM
November 1, 200618 yr Wow...that first house raises some questions about the Catholic church. A vow of poverty isn't necessarily the same thing as a vow to live in squalor.
November 1, 200618 yr I always found it humorous that Detroit's more "well-off" neighborhoods are near/on 8 Mile Road and Oakland County's worst suburbs (Southfield, etc) are also near 8 Mile Road. Perception...indeed. Just goes to show how far trash blows. Then that trash clearly blew all over that area then. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 1, 200618 yr two things 1) Detroit Zero Mile (so to speak) is in campus martius park, they found the old surveying pole buried in the ground when they built the park. Technically because woodward goes at an angle the distance between 8 and 9 mile (or pick your own mileage), is about 1.4 miles. I'm far too lazy to figure out what the true north south Road is. I think its John R or something on that end. 2) John Salley was probably the arch bishops most popular resident. It is also Detroit's Largest private residence coming around 88,000 Sq Ft if memory serves correct
November 1, 200618 yr I always found it humorous that Detroit's more "well-off" neighborhoods are near/on 8 Mile Road and Oakland County's worst suburbs (Southfield, etc) are also near 8 Mile Road. Perception...indeed. Just goes to show how far trash blows. Then that trash clearly blew all over that area then. Though, Hazel Park clearly claimed the lion's share.
Create an account or sign in to comment