than don't talk about it.

 

Why? If there is a sliver of truth to the story, it should be told. No one should be held up in higher regard just because they were famous. That said, it is veering off topic, so feel free to discuss his personal matters in a new thread. Thanks :)

The people that seem to have information about it don't want to talk about it...so, i suspect there won't be another thread.

 

I've heard that people from SCPA don't want a new building and don't want to change the name and all of that.  Maybe the schools could have saved the money and just let them sit.  As an outsider (but now a taxpayer) it sounds rather ungrateful.

than don't talk about it.

 

Why? If there is a sliver of truth to the story, it should be told. No one should be held up in higher regard just because they were famous. That said, it is veering off topic, so feel free to discuss his personal matters in a new thread. Thanks :)

 

My point was to those who bring up accusations, then say "but I don't want to talk about it".  If someone has information they want to share, than go for it.  It just gets tiring when someone says "I know something you don't".

Pleasant Ridge Montessori School achieves LEED Silver Certification

http://www.soapboxmedia.com/devnews/1013pleasantridgemontessori.aspx

By Randy A. Simes | Soapbox Cincinnati, October 13, 2009

 

Pleasant Ridge Montessori has become the first public K-12 school in Ohio to achieve Leadership in Energy & Environmental Design (LEED) Certification thanks to the efforts of Cincinnati Public Schools (CPS), the Pleasant Ridge community, and the design work of SHP Leading Design.

 

 

Rothenberg hearing delayed two weeks

http://www.building-cincinnati.com/2009/10/rothenberg-hearing-delayed-two-weeks.html

By Kevin LeMaster | Building Cincinnati, October 13, 2009

 

A presentation by the Rothenberg School Planning Team to Cincinnati's Historic Conservation Board originally scheduled for yesterday afternoon has been postponed until October 26.

 

The design for the $21 million renovation project, produced by GBBN Architects and WA Architects, Inc., is similar to one proposed last March, consisting of the construction of a one-story gymnasium addition, a new service drive along Hust Alley, and the extension of the children's play area westward along Clifton Avenue.

 

Much, much nicer!

Interesting collection of data about Cincinnati high schools (but ugly bar charts!)

 

http://gerberanalytics.com/index_files/ogt_other/large_school_districts.html

 

 

C'mon - I like blue.

 

If you think this year's charts look bad, you should have seen last year's.  I would have gotten an Olympic gold medal for ugly last year. : )

 

Here are last year's results for the Fort Ancient League:

 

http://gerberanalytics.com/data/data_ogt_sw/fort_ancient_valley_conf_portfolio_2008_20090623.pdf

 

This year's are here:

 

http://gerberanalytics.com/index_files/ogt_sw/fort_ancient_valley_conf.html

 

Hopefully a bit better on the eyes.

<a href="http://www.citykin.com/2010/03/cps-schools-competetive.html">Individual Elementary Schools in the Cincinnati Public District compare very favorably to the best suburban schools.</a>

^And many of the higher performing CPS schools seem to be new renovations or new construction.

<a href="http://www.citykin.com/2010/03/cps-schools-competetive.html">Individual Elementary Schools in the Cincinnati Public District compare very favorably to the best suburban schools.</a>

 

Of the large metro areas, Hamilton County is the strongest in the state (by far).  In my Top Academic Ohio High School list, Hamilton County had 31% (22 of 71) of its schools in my top schools list.  While Lucas County (Toledo), Cuyahoga (Cleveland), and Franklin (Columbus) had 14% (6 of 43), 17% (17 of 98), and 16% (13 of 80), respectively.  These numbers include private and public schools.

 

I think that much of the success of CPS is due to Walnut Hills.  It's a huge incentive for the kids to do well in elementary/middle school. 

 

Cincinnati really "gets" education.

 

For all of my education data, click here:

 

http://www.gerberanalytics.com/ogt.html

 

I haven't had the time to go thruough your whole website, but do you have statistics on teacher/student ratio?  Or is that even relevant?

I haven't had the time to go thruough your whole website, but do you have statistics on teacher/student ratio?  Or is that even relevant?

 

My site focuses on academic performance for all of the public and private high schools in Ohio.  I believe that there are other sites that provide more information on the teacher/student ratio, socio-economic considerations, etc., but I do not. 

 

My goal with this project is to recognize Ohio's exceptional schools and to inspire communities to focus a bit more on academics.  Communities do rally around athletics, especially versus league rivals.  I want each community to be acutely aware of how their school compares with the other schools in its league in academics, just as they are with sports.

 

Hope that you find the site to be worthwhile.

 

 

Reopening of Hyde Park school uncertain

By Ben Fischer, Cincinnati Enquirer, May 9, 2010

 

A Cincinnati Public Schools consultant has been telling Hyde Park parents the district could re-open the closed Hyde Park Elementary School in 2012 and it would be exclusively for students in that neighborhood and part of Oakley.

 

But there is no money yet in the district's construction fund for such a school, and top district officials quickly distanced themselves from any promise of neighborhood exclusivity.

 

Last week, Superintendent Mary Ronan disavowed knowledge of the outreach to parents, being conducted by the schools' contracted community outreach coordinator, Darlene Kamine, and an assistant, P.G. Sittenfeld.

I hear the renovation of Hughes is going very well. FWIW

From CPS regarding the renovation of Rothenberg Elementary in Over-the-Rhine:

 

A quick update; design development drawings were submitted and priced.  The estimate came in slightly under budget with the addition of HB264 funds.  We are using HB264 funds to pay for the geothermal piece.

At the Core meeting on Thursday, we were approved to proceed with construction documents.

Does anyone know the status of Mt. Washington Elementary? I know that it temporarily relocated to Hyde Park Elementary, while renovated are done.  But I was by there, last month, and it does not look at all like it'll be ready for 2010-11.

Not sure where to put this, but I noticed there's some work going on at the old Fairview German school which was auctioned off last year. The pavement around the building was dug up, so I'm not sure if it is utility work or related to the building. Anyone know if redevelopment plans are in place?

IIRC, it is going to be restored.

No idea what IIRC is.

^ "If I recall correctly"

School board approves Quebec design

http://nky.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20100712/NEWS0102/7130366/School-board-approves-Quebec-design

 

By Jessica Brown

[email protected]

 

CORRYVILLE - The Cincinnati School Board and the public got a look Monday night at design plans for the new Quebec Heights Elementary School in Price Hill.

 

The plan by DH Architects, which won unanimous approval from the seven-member board, includes several environmentally friendly features and green space for "outdoor classrooms."

CPS donates condemned buildings

The Enquirer • November 29, 2010

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20101129/NEWS0102/11300345/

^I love this. I can't wait for the buildings to be new living spaces. They will really help revitalization to move from the intersection of Main and McMicken up to Five Corners.

^though it was part of a ruse and/or compromise to cover over the demolition of 142 E McMicken, probably the largest most elaborate building that was there...

 

Vibrations from the construction vehicles that may cause it to collapse... really stretching it there CPS :P

Saw the project architect for Rothenberg last week at Bockfest on the brewery tour.  Stated the building permits were approved, and is going to bid this week or thereabouts.

^

Got confirmation Rothenberg is out to bid. Bids are due 4/26/11.

 

Keep your fingers crossed they don't come back too high, or we'll be back to fighting value engineering.

CPS massive building project nears finish

$1B transformed many city schools, but some still wait

 

On a recent sunny day, more than 100 children cheered as shovels hit dirt, breaking ground for the renovation of Rothenberg Preparatory Academy in Over-the-Rhine.

 

"This is how people felt about their education," said School Board President Eve Bolton, motioning up at the castle-like, 1915 structure with gothic architecture, concrete battlements and gargoyles.

 

The renovation is the latest visible sign of Cincinnati Public Schools' 10-year, $1.1 billion taxpayer-funded plan to completely overhaul its aging building stock

 

Map of all projects completed and proposed:

 

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=210948509999013498205.0004adde3285767d8e75d&hl=en&doflg=ptm&ie=UTF8&t=h&vpsrc=0&z=11&source=embed

 

http://communitypress.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20111002/NEWS0102/110020308/CPS-massive-building-project-nears-finish?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7Ccommunities%7Cs

Saw the project architect for Rothenberg last week at Bockfest on the brewery tour.  Stated the building permits were approved, and is going to bid this week or thereabouts.

 

This was such a huge win for OTR to get Rothenberg to renovate that school instead of building a new one and tearing this structure down. I know it's been a while, but for all of those who fought to save this building and keep Rothenberg School viable in OTR...great work.

Pictures from HGC Construction's Facebook page of Walnut Hills renovation/addition:

 

 

^Wow, it looks stunning.

I've never actually been in Walnut Hills High School before. Those pictures make it look beautiful though. Thanks for the update!

How an Ohio school escaped its academic emergency

Back in November of 2012, CPS auctioned off 13 of their school buildings: http://www.soapboxmedia.com/devnews/112012.cpsauction.aspx

 

I know the Woodward and Kirby schools are planned for apartments (UO thread links below). I'm curious if anybody knows updates on any of the other buildings, especially the three West End schools (Sands, Heberle, and Lafayette Bloom)? Heberle and Lafayette Bloom are owned by separate LLCs, but according the auditor's site the LLC's have the same contact address (in Staten Island), which suggests the same developer bought them. Sands is still owned by the City (and/or the Board of Education), including the parking lot to its east. All three of those West End schools are incredibly beautiful, and together represent a significant chunk of West End potential. They could be great as schools, offices or apartments.  I'd love to see them brought back to life.

[*]George F. Sands School, 940 Poplar Street, West End: not sold, valued at $1.89 million; built in 1912, last class in 2007 http://goo.gl/maps/upiLy

[*]Heberle Elementary School, 2015 Freeman Avenue, West End: sold for $60,000; built in 1929, last class in 2007 http://goo.gl/maps/uV6Hi

[*]Lafayette Bloom Middle School, 1941 Baymiller Street, West End: sold for $60,000; built in 1915, last class in 2006 http://goo.gl/maps/ciUfA

[*]Burton Elementary School, 876 Glenwood Street, North Avondale: sold for $305,000; built in 1966, last class in 2008 http://goo.gl/maps/m3vdP

[*]Central Fairmount Elementary School, 2475 White Street, South Fairmount: sold for $310,000; built in 1900, last class in 2012 http://goo.gl/maps/n8Vpj

[*]Hoffman Elementary School, 3060 Durrell Avenue, Evanston: sold for $200,000; built in 1922, last class in 2011. http://goo.gl/maps/kHZTx

[*]Kirby Road Elementary School, 1710 Bruce Avenue, Northside: sold for $230,000; built in 1910, last class in 2005 http://goo.gl/maps/9o1XZ. UrbanOhio thread: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=28231.0

[*]Linwood Fundamental Academy, 4900 Eastern Avenue, Linwood: sold for $75,000; built in 1927-29, last class in 2005  http://goo.gl/maps/QxgX2

[*]Losantiville Elementary School, 6701 Elbrook Avenue, Amberley Village: sold for $525,000; built in 1954, last class in 2008 http://goo.gl/maps/87wNk

[*]Old Woodward School, then the School of Creative and Performing Arts (SCPA), 1310 Sycamore Street, Pendleton: sold for $1.3 million; built in 1910, last class in 2010 http://goo.gl/maps/2AJUQ. UrbanOhio thread: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=28048.0

[*]Old Shroder Junior High School, 3500 Lumford Place, Kennedy Heights: sold for $150,000; built in 1956, last class unknown http://goo.gl/maps/JwNk4

[*]Winton Montessori School, 4750 Winton Road, Winton Place: sold for $265,000; closed in early Nov. 2012 http://goo.gl/maps/awTGe

[*]North Fairmount Elementary School, 2001 Baltimore Avenue, North Fairmount: not sold, valued at $2.2 million; built in 1954, last class unknown http://goo.gl/maps/Al71r

It says something about the market differences between OTR and the West End that Heberle and Lafayette Bloom sold for only $60,000 each while the former SCPA went for $1.3 million. 

Does anyone know what the plan is for the now-old Rothenberg Preparatory Academy on Vine Street?

 

If the streetcar does go up Vine and have a stop near Mulberry or St. Joe Street on the hill, that land could be fairly valuable.

 

I think it would be a great location for condos or apartments that stagger downward toward the hill, each top floor unit having a great city view.

Similar in massing/stepping to the Palisades in Mt. Adams which have insane views. That would do a ton for helping that whole turn see some new life and feel revitalized. The Vine Street hill is one of the most urban hills in the city and needs to be maintained and added to.

It says something about the market differences between OTR and the West End that Heberle and Lafayette Bloom sold for only $60,000 each while the former SCPA went for $1.3 million. 

 

The streetcar needs to be extended into the West End on Bank St. and up to Brighton Corner. 

Does anyone know what the plan is for the now-old Rothenberg Preparatory Academy on Vine Street?

 

If the streetcar does go up Vine and have a stop near Mulberry or St. Joe Street on the hill, that land could be fairly valuable.

 

I think it would be a great location for condos or apartments that stagger downward toward the hill, each top floor unit having a great city view.

 

There is quite a lot of room for development in that area.  That is one positive if it is built up Vine St. as planned as opposed to the forest route or another alignment. 

It says something about the market differences between OTR and the West End that Heberle and Lafayette Bloom sold for only $60,000 each while the former SCPA went for $1.3 million. 

 

The streetcar needs to be extended into the West End on Bank St. and up to Brighton Corner.

 

I'm not following your mental map. McMicken to Mohawk to Bank and then where? Colerain?

Does anyone know what the plan is for the now-old Rothenberg Preparatory Academy on Vine Street?

 

If the streetcar does go up Vine and have a stop near Mulberry or St. Joe Street on the hill, that land could be fairly valuable.

 

I think it would be a great location for condos or apartments that stagger downward toward the hill, each top floor unit having a great city view.

 

There is quite a lot of room for development in that area.  That is one positive if it is built up Vine St. as planned as opposed to the forest route or another alignment.

 

I'm not sure why that would make any difference. Both routes follow the same corridor. They're 50 ft apart from each other.

It says something about the market differences between OTR and the West End that Heberle and Lafayette Bloom sold for only $60,000 each while the former SCPA went for $1.3 million. 

 

The streetcar needs to be extended into the West End on Bank St. and up to Brighton Corner.

 

I'm not following your mental map. McMicken to Mohawk to Bank and then where? Colerain?

 

Yeah.  I've seen other people suggest extending east on Findlay St. but I think bringing the streetcar to and through the Mohawk corner is a big deal.  Right now Bank St. is a dead divider of the West End and Brighton but I think with the streetcar on that street it could liven it up.

Does anyone know what the plan is for the now-old Rothenberg Preparatory Academy on Vine Street?

 

If the streetcar does go up Vine and have a stop near Mulberry or St. Joe Street on the hill, that land could be fairly valuable.

 

I think it would be a great location for condos or apartments that stagger downward toward the hill, each top floor unit having a great city view.

 

There is quite a lot of room for development in that area.  That is one positive if it is built up Vine St. as planned as opposed to the forest route or another alignment.

 

I'm not sure why that would make any difference. Both routes follow the same corridor. They're 50 ft apart from each other.

 

It's not the track that matters but the stops.  I think the Forest Route as proposed includes a stop on the Polk St. Steps which is significantly uphill from this area.  (As an aside, I wouldn't be brave enough to use those stairs at night, but I guess I could have said the same thing about large parts of OTR several years ago.)

You know those circles that some planners draw around the stops, representing a walking radius?

 

Architect Christopher Alexander theorizes that every flight of steps (about 12' vertically) is equivalent to about 100 feet horizontally in walking energy.

You know those circles that some planners draw around the stops, representing a walking radius?

 

Architect Christopher Alexander theorizes that every flight of steps (about 12' vertically) is equivalent to about 100 feet horizontally in walking energy.

Do you know where I can read about how he arrived at those numbers? I have been trying to puzzle this out, and I'm happy to know there's someone who's considered it.

It says something about the market differences between OTR and the West End that Heberle and Lafayette Bloom sold for only $60,000 each while the former SCPA went for $1.3 million. 

 

The streetcar needs to be extended into the West End on Bank St. and up to Brighton Corner. 

 

I've walked that route a few times. Plenty of development potential in that area.

I.ve had this fuzzy French pic for years, but it was always a dream that the curved part of Vine across from the school would someday look like this picture. With every bush crash and demo that dream faded a bit, but hopefully with the streetcar route nearby it will be possible some day.

Now that I look at it again it think I just 'felt' it was French. Based on the licence plate size probably not, but the dream still stands.

 

Looks like Quebec City to me.

I think Hollister Park should be sold and that whole corner sold to developer for housing, etc.  Inwood park is already across the street and there are tennis courts on W.H. Taft.  I think having a development anchor that corner actually improves Inwood.