Posted November 9, 200618 yr As in the last bunch all of these but one have things that are in the old and new pix. The old pix are from the Luteznberger Collection at the Dayton Metro Library. (note that 5th Street used to be narrower prior to urban renewal) (the house with the cupola was owned by the Gephardts, local industrialists) (the Lutzenberger pix are great in that one can see what the early housing stock looked like in the original plat area of Dayton) (the Bicycle Club started out as a house, built in the 1850s) Webster Station in the late 1920s. Even at this late date the neighborhood was still fairly residential (images courtesy of the Wright State Library Special Collections and Archives Department) Some close ups The Station @ Webster Station from the air .....note the passenger train coming in, from the Pennsylvania line onto the Joint Tracks. @@@
November 9, 200618 yr Good stuff. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 9, 200618 yr Might this have been an interurban freight house? It's very similar to one still standing on a back street in downtown Fort Wayne; Interurban freight and express cars could be unloaded on one side, and trucks and wagons could back up to the doors on the other to transfer merchandise for forwarding around town.
November 9, 200618 yr ...yes, it is the Dayton & Troy/Lima Route freight house. It was built in 1922. The side you are looking at is the one the trucks loaded at, though there was a track that looped around, which is visible in the pix. Another locally big LCL/fast freight interurban shipper was the C&LE, which had a freight house on Kenton Street. That one is still standing too.
November 16, 200618 yr That is the first time I have seen a picture of what was at Wayne and Fifth Street. Makes me sad, but what a gorgeous building where Dublin Pub is today. Thanks, Jeff. Good stuff.
November 16, 200618 yr That is the first time I have seen a picture of what was at Wayne and Fifth Street. Makes me sad, but what a gorgeous building where Dublin Pub is today. Yeah, the neat thing about that building and 5th street is that 5th runs at an angle through the Oregon District, and back before they planted trees down it you had a straight shot vista down 5th right to that buildings corner w the tower. From some old pix I've seen 5th looked a lot more dense and "big city" without the trees and with that building blocking the view at the end. The upper floor of the building was a meeting and rental hall, home to the Societa di Mutuo Soccorso Italiana, an Italian mutual aid society. ...apparently the area in the aeriel photos of Third Street @ Wayne..that row of shops along Third... was Dayton's "Little Italy": The John Pirelli Lodge was originally organized as Societa di Mutuo Soccorso Italiana, Dayton, Ohio and had a meeting place on Wayne Avenue in the East End of Dayton where the early Italian immigrants settled, along First, Second, Third, Fourth, and Fifth Streets. They shared St. Joseph Catholic Church with Irish immigrants and Holy Trinity Church with German immigrants. Third Street became the hub of activity. There were Italian restaurants and grocery stores in the area, and an Italian gelataria (Malted Milk Shop) that everyone patronized.
November 17, 200618 yr Terrific pics and comparisons. Thanks for sharing. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 17, 200618 yr Yeah, the neat thing about that building and 5th street is that 5th runs at an angle through the Oregon District, and back before they planted trees down it you had a straight shot vista down 5th right to that buildings corner w the tower. From some old pix I've seen 5th looked a lot more dense and "big city" without the trees and with that building blocking the view at the end. I have seen this photo you speak of. I may be able to dig it up somewhere. The John Pirelli Lodge was originally organized as Societa di Mutuo Soccorso Italiana, Dayton, Ohio and had a meeting place on Wayne Avenue in the East End of Dayton where the early Italian immigrants settled, along First, Second, Third, Fourth, and Fifth Streets. They shared St. Joseph Catholic Church with Irish immigrants and Holy Trinity Church with German immigrants. Third Street became the hub of activity. There were Italian restaurants and grocery stores in the area, and an Italian gelataria (Malted Milk Shop) that everyone patronized. The word is that the Germans required the Irish sit on the side of St. Joseph's statue at Emmanuel on Franklin. So when they decided to build a church of their own...well they called it St. Joseph.
December 23, 200618 yr Wow, that is so depressing. I love the Dublin Pub but now it seems like such a let down to have such a little building there. I can't believe how that area used to look. Incredible work!
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