You know the saying, once you cross the Ohio turnpike going south, nobody cares whats out there.

 

 

 

Ouch!

 

Based on metro population trends the people above I-80 apparently like what's out there better.  Kidding...I just missed this one yesterday.  I do think it is funny how much talk this generated.

 

Its still the most populated area in the state....so there! :evil: :-P

 

Fair enough and you are right about Northeast Ohio, which is underrated for its population density especially compared to many newer metros/CSA's.

 

Cincy-Rise - I think this thread shows that given enough time people can find insult in just about anything.

and i thought detroiters were touchy....

and i thought detroiters were touchy....

 

No they're pick pockets!

you stay classy clevelanders

I wish twnipper would explain the insult?

 

I've been coming back throughout the day trying to figure out what the buzz is about.

from what I saw, St. Clair actually formally established Cincinnati as the seat of justice for the Northwest Territory - so "first capital" doesn't even have to be inferred by where he hung out - it was actually declared so.

 

Interesting.  I assume that "seat of justice" means where the Supreme Court met when it was in session.  Combine that with the governor's residence and we can safely say that Cincinnati was the capital of the Northwest Territory.  More info:

 

As soon as the number of settlers exceeded 5,000, the Territorial Legislature was to be created, and this happened in 1798. The full mechanisms of government were put in place, as outlined in the Northwest Ordinance. A bicameral legislature consisted of a House of Representatives and a Council. The first House had 22 representatives, two elected by each county. The House then nominated 10 citizens to be Council members. The nominations were sent to the U.S. Congress, which appointed five of them as the Council. This assembly became the legislature of the Territory, although the governor retained veto power.  There were three secretaries: Winthrop Sargent (July 9, 1788-May 31, 1798); William Henry Harrison (June 29, 1798-December 31, 1799); and Charles Willing Byrd (January 1, 1800- January 15, 1803).

 

Harrison resigned from the Army in 1798 to become Secretary of the Northwest Territory, and acted as governor when Governor Arthur St. Clair was absent.

 

I haven't been able to find out where the territorial legislature met, but since Harrison was its secretary and a resident of Hamilton County, I assume it was here.

 

Also, there was a big dispute between the local Federalists, led by St. Clair, and Republicans, led by the first governor of the State of Ohio, Edward Tiffin.  After 1800, when the NW Territory was divided into the Ohio & Indiana Territories, Chillicothe (the residence of Tiffin) became the territorial capital, though St. Clair remained territorial governor.  Not surprising that such a change would occur af the Republican Party took control of the Presidency and Congress in 1800.

 

Of course, the thought that this ESPN guy had any inkling of all of this - or that, if he did, it was what he thought folks would pick up on - that seems dubious to me.  My theory?  Dude had a clever thing to fill in a box with - "ooo, the Upper Penninsula is hardly even Michigan!  Hmm...now what the hell can I put on the Ohio side of the box?  Hmm..."

 

I don't know.  I still feel like he had an understanding of the dynamics of the state, which is why I view it as a compliment.  Just like when the Lolapalooza tour bus turns down the exit toward Cincinnati, then backs up to go down the exit toward Cleveland, only the finally turn back the way it came, avoiding both towns, on that Simpsons episode.

 

Attending the Universities of Kentucky or Indiana is a perfectly normal and typical thing for the average Cincinnatian- those schools are actually closer to home than Ohio State is.

 

What do you mean by "closer to home"?  Do you mean the cities are more similar?  Because obviously, Bloomington is 20+ miles further away than Columbus, and at least an hour longer of a drive because of all that time spent on 46.  And really, Columbus is only another 10-15 miles further away than Lexington...so I'm guessing you mean the cities have a similar feel?

 

To be frank, I was guessing at how far the drive to Bloomington was.  The drive to Lexington always seems a lot shorter than that to Columbus, but I could be wrong about that too.  I'm commuting between Cincinnati and the South much more often than I'm heading North.  Either way, with IU offering its first classes in 1824, the presence of the much closer and more established Miami and UC, OSU starting it's first class in 1873, and UK being a similar institution to OSU on the other side of the river (many local families have relatives on either side of the Ohio), I feel like the difference in college horizons and loyalties is divided more widely in Cincinnati than in most of the other major cities in the State.

Should you wish to consider Cincinnati a separate entity then so be it...we can take a metro pop. of over 2 million, our many Fortune 500 companies, one of the few cities with economies in Ohio that is successful, our major university, our major art/museum scene, and our historic roots of freedom/hope/significance with us.

 

This way all of these northern Ohio comments that Cincy is detached and off base with the state can stop....then you can feel the wrath of Ohio without the success of the Cincinnati region!!!

 

Perhaps your quick acceptance of breaking off from Ohio is a sign that we, rather Hamilton County (?), is not as connected with the rest of Ohio, as the list expresses. Plus,we've all heard your feelings about Cincinnati Ohio State fans...

Uh, remember the context before analyzing - this is about the game.  I think he is pointing out the fact that Cincinnati does not offer Ohio State the homogenized support that most of the state does.  For example, Cleveland covers Ohio State much more than the Cincinnati media, almost as if it is a local team.  In Cincinnati you will find a high number of prospective college students that will go to Kentucky, Indiana, Michigan, and Notre Dame, not to mention the allegiance to local schools like UC, Xavier, and Miami.  Just take a look at the flags around town.

 

I suppose it has never sat well with the Statehouse that Cincinnati has chosen the moniker Cincinnati, USA, and I recall stories about it causing some issues in dealing with them.  Regardless, the region is just different in that it covers 3 states with allegiances spread across many schools.  Pat Forde has always been a bit of a moron and often cannot mask his support of the University of Louisville (as their local writer), but I guess if he responds we will see what he meant.

 

Best post yet. Except, Forde is not the Louisvlle hometown writer. True, he lives in Louisville but he no longer writes for the C-J. Actually, he was decidedly anti-UofL when he wrote for the C-J but he has become quite an ambassador since joining ESPN.

I wish twnipper would explain the insult?

 

I've been coming back throughout the day trying to figure out what the buzz is about.

 

I was just asking if it was...everyone is arguing their perception of whether it is a slight or not. I just wanted to hear those opinions.

 

Me? I think it is a compliment. And I think Forde makes a nice subtle point that Cincinnati is not part of Ohio in many ways.

I wish twnipper would explain the insult?

 

I've been coming back throughout the day trying to figure out what the buzz is about.

 

I was just asking if it was...everyone is arguing their perception of whether it is a slight or not. I just wanted to hear those opinions.

 

Me? I think it is a compliment. And I think Forde makes a nice subtle point that Cincinnati is not part of Ohio in many ways.

 

If you look at the history of Ohio and the NW Territory Act, I think you would have seen that Cincinnati was more involved than any other city in Ohio with the conception of Ohio. Ohio was granted access to become a state because of it's population, who the hell do you think contributed to this population boom in the early days of Ohio/NWTA ... Columbus??? Give me a break.

 

"The first meeting of the legislature convened in Cincinnati in 1799. The body elected Edward Tiffin as Speaker of the House and William Henry Harrison as the territory's representative to Congress."

 

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/about.cfm

 

"In 1790, Arthur St. Clair, the governor of the Northwest Territory, changed the name of the settlement to "Cincinnati" in honor of the Society of the Cincinnati, of which he was a member. The society honored General George Washington, who was considered a latter day Cincinnatus—the Roman general who saved his city, then retired from power to his farm. To this day, Cincinnati in particular, and Ohio in general, are home to a disproportionately large number of descendants of Revolutionary War soldiers who were granted lands in the state."

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati,_Ohio

 

"The Ohio State University was founded in 1870 as a land-grant university in accordance with the Morrill Act of 1862 under the name of The Ohio Agricultural and Mechanical College. Initially, it was thought that one of Ohio's two existing public universities (Ohio University and Miami University) would be designated as the land-grant institution, and each engaged in a vigorous competition to win over the state legislature. With the strong urging of Governor Rutherford B. Hayes, however, it was ultimately decided to establish a new university to be located near the legislature in Columbus."

 

As far as a separation based on Geography, I would've thought so - since this was the intent from the very beginning:

 

"After achieving statehood in 1803, political infighting among Ohio's more prominent leaders resulted in the state capital moving from Chillicothe to Zanesville and back again."

 

...

 

"The state legislature eventually decided that a new capital city, located in the center of the state, was a necessary compromise."

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus%2C_Ohio#History

 

 

"In 1819, Cincinnati College and the Medical College of Ohio were founded in Cincinnati upon the suggestion and with the funds of local benefactors such as Dr. Drake and William Lytle of the Lytle family of Cincinnati. In 1870, the City of Cincinnati established the University of Cincinnati, absorbing Cincinnati College and the Medical College of Ohio. University of Cincinnati became a "municipally-sponsored, state-affiliated" institution in 1968. During this time, the University of Cincinnati was the second-oldest and second-largest municipal university in the country. It became one of Ohio's state universities in 1977."

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Cincinnati#History

 

 

My points:

 

• It is indeed a fact that Cincinnati was a major player before there was even a Columbus, OH ... or Ohio for that matter. Cincinnati was major meeting place for the NW Territory Act (OH, MI, IN, MN) and legislative seat. Cincinnati was a machine for producing political powers, especially for Ohio's government. Many cities can only dream of having the having the history that we have. Cincinnati was producing major politicians when other cities were being founded.

 

• Columbus was strategically planned to be in the center of Ohio, hence the distance from Cincinnati.

 

• I think this line speaks for itself: "Initially, it was thought that one of Ohio's two existing public universities (Ohio University and Miami University) would be designated as the land-grant institution, and each engaged in a vigorous competition to win over the state legislature[/i]. With the strong urging of Governor Rutherford B. Hayes, however, it was ultimately decided to establish a new university to be located near the legislature in Columbus."

 

... take a look at a map of Ohio, now ... take a look at where Oxford, OH is. You see that? Now with this in mind, try to imagine the state saying, "hey, we need this land-grant institution near our capital instead."

 

• Lastly, University of Cincinnati was birthed from Cincinnati College and the Medical College of Ohio, founded in 1819, yes 1819. After this UC was founded in 1870, the same year as OSU and is "second-oldest municipal university in the country".

 

 

As far as football goes, there are obvious reasons why OSU wins the hearts of Ohioans ... and many Cincinnatians (believe me, I heard it all damn day Saturday) ... But for basketball, that is a different story. All in all, our state has plenty of bandwagon fans.

 

So, there is much proof for Cincinnatians to be proud of the great university that we have (which will separate us from other Ohio cities ;) )and it should be very insulting for Cincinnatians to hear that Cincinnati should be idealistically separated from the state! We were the beginning.

 

 

BTW ... who the f**K is Forde???

 

 

 

So basically, old Ohio vs. current Ohio.

 

Gotcha.

Being insulted by this is like being insulted by Letterman's Top Ten list.

 

^So, in other words, don't sweat it.

The history of the territorial period and early statehood, gee whiz...interesting if you are a history buff but how relevant to modern times ??? 

 

The issue of statehood was really tied up with the Federalists and Jeffersonians or Ant-Federalists, at the national level....locally or regionally it was a political division between the Marietta  settlers and the Scioto Valley settlements... factions lead by St Clair vs one led by Thomas Worthington..

 

With criteria in place, and amid a flurry of westward expansion as statehood-seeking settlers poured into Ohio, the process accelerated - but not without controversy. Ohio's boundaries are well known today, but in the early 1800s, they were a hotly debated issue, fueled by politics and personalities. Territorial governor Arthur St. Clair led one faction that sought to divide the state and delay statehood indefinitely. Statehood supporter Thomas Worthington led another group. Called "the father of Ohio statehood," Worthington urged Congress to keep the divisions set forth in the Northwest Ordinance and reject St. Clair's plan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The games over......ah, are you cinci folks that senstive?? 

 

You want an insult?  Why don't I call Michael Richard's and ask him to insult you?  He's really good at it!  :evil: :-o :evil:

You want an insult?  Why don't I call Michael Richard's and ask him to insult you?  He's really good at it!  :evil: :-o :evil:

 

But I'm white.

 

But I'm white.

 

Oh, you poor thing.

It's more that Ohio doesn't matter as much to Cincinnati. It's why the coverage of the statehouse is so terrible here. It's why you can be a Michigan football fan. Things are a bit different down here.

 

I think it is because we have real college sports in Cincinnati.  Shoot, the Bearcats even beat Rutgers to blow their chances at a sweet bowl bid.  I am a Bearcat fan first although I was pulling for OSU during the game.

 

You folks in the Cincinnati area aren't provincial, you're paranoid of anything Kentucky. :)

 

BINGO!  As I have said before, the river is truly a divide and while Cincinnati and NKY are part of one metropolitian area, we don't share the same ideas, lifestyle or accent - THANK GOD!

The history of the territorial period and early statehood, gee whiz...interesting if you are a history buff but how relevant to modern times ??? 

 

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Let me get this straight ... you are asking me what history has to do with the early years of Ohio? Ok ...

 

 

The games over......ah, are you cinci folks that senstive??

 

Wow, this is coming from the same guy:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=11149.30

 

No one is getting their panties in a wad, so quit trying to read in the post so much, Clevelander's ... sheesh. ;)

The history of the territorial period and early statehood, gee whiz...interesting if you are a history buff but how relevant to modern times ??? 

 

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Let me get this straight ... you are asking me what history has to do with the early years of Ohio? Ok ...

 

 

The games over......ah, are you cinci folks that sensitive??

 

Wow, this is coming from the same guy:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=11149.30

 

No one is getting their panties in a wad, so quit trying to read in the post so much, Clevelander's ... sheesh. ;)

 

hell yes!  and these things are HARDLY comparable!  

Ya, damn Kentucky refugees.  (example of an insult) 8-)

 

...thats all!

 

Wow... I was glued to every post in this thread, what an interesting topic! Where I live, I'm in the middle of Cincinnati and Columbus... we root for OSU during the fall and UC during the winter... and never for the Browns. When I am down in Cincy (which is more often than not) I dont venture much farther than newport... the rest of kentucky is uncharted/scary territory to me.

 

Back to what the article was about... I agree with the fact that the author must have started out with 'the peninsula' first and needed to think of something to fill in the blank... Cincinnati is kind of like... The Texas of Ohio... Isolated, its own place, but still connected. Are you smelling what I'm stepping in?

 

**I guess that makes Kentucky the Mexico of Ohio... ha

hell yes!  and these things are HARDLY comparable!  

 

 

Let's see ... Cincy (sensitive) forumers and then you and LincolnKennedy and then you (sensitive), what is your point?

Wow... I was glued to every post in this thread, what an interesting topic! Where I live, I'm in the middle of Cincinnati and Columbus... we root for OSU during the fall and UC during the winter... and never for the Browns. When I am down in Cincy (which is more often than not) I dont venture much farther than newport... the rest of kentucky is uncharted/scary territory to me.

 

Back to what the article was about... I agree with the fact that the author must have started out with 'the peninsula' first and needed to think of something to fill in the blank... Cincinnati is kind of like... The Texas of Ohio... Isolated, its own place, but still connected. Are you smelling what I'm stepping in?

 

**I guess that makes Kentucky the Mexico of Ohio... ha

 

I agree. I also think most students in high school in Cincinnati think to themselves "when I graduate, I'll probably go to UC or OSU" for OH schools ... Miami, I assume is the number 3 pick.

But I'm white.

 

Oh, you poor thing.

 

I know!  It's such a burden.

 

But I'm white.

 

Oh, you poor thing.

 

I know!  It's such a burden.

 

Oh honey, I do feel for you.  I hear that "right to entitlement" attitude is hard to maintain.

 

How do you do it? :wink: :wink:

Wow... I was glued to every post in this thread, what an interesting topic! Where I live, I'm in the middle of Cincinnati and Columbus... we root for OSU during the fall and UC during the winter... and never for the Browns. When I am down in Cincy (which is more often than not) I dont venture much farther than newport... the rest of kentucky is uncharted/scary territory to me.

 

Back to what the article was about... I agree with the fact that the author must have started out with 'the peninsula' first and needed to think of something to fill in the blank... Cincinnati is kind of like... The Texas of Ohio... Isolated, its own place, but still connected. Are you smelling what I'm stepping in?

 

**I guess that makes Kentucky the Mexico of Ohio... ha

 

I agree. I also think most students in high school in Cincinnati think to themselves "when I graduate, I'll probably go to UC or OSU" for OH schools ... Miami, I assume is the number 3 pick.

 

From my expieriences, here are the biggest trends

 

A very large amount of kids in the exurbs go to the exurb colleges, those NCAA DivIII schools with beautiful campuses, and neat little historical downtowns (i.e. Wittenberg, Antioch, Wilmington, Ohio Northern, Heidelburg, Muskingum)

 

After that, comes the smaller big schools, Wright State, UD, Morehead (KY), and OSU branches like Wooster, Mansfield, Lima

 

Then you have your kids who go to the big colleges around here, OU is the biggest, then Miami, then UC, then OSU, then some trickle into NKU and UK... no one really goes to the northeastern parts of ohio... maybe its part of the separation factor...

 

Lastly you have the kids that go far away. There is a big migration to Chicago, I'm even thinking about going there. Then you have the kids who think they hate their parents (or they could very well be going for educational purposes) who go to Miami, Florida, Washington State, and Arizona.

 

Those are just some observations, and I could have jsut as easily said, no one really goes to Cleveland for their education... but I am pretty bored this morning because I'm on Thanksgiving Break.

 

Uh, remember the context before analyzing - this is about the game.  I think he is pointing out the fact that Cincinnati does not offer Ohio State the homogenized support that most of the state does.  For example, Cleveland covers Ohio State much more than the Cincinnati media, almost as if it is a local team.  In Cincinnati you will find a high number of prospective college students that will go to Kentucky, Indiana, Michigan, and Notre Dame, not to mention the allegiance to local schools like UC, Xavier, and Miami.  Just take a look at the flags around town.

 

I suppose it has never sat well with the Statehouse that Cincinnati has chosen the moniker Cincinnati, USA, and I recall stories about it causing some issues in dealing with them.  Regardless, the region is just different in that it covers 3 states with allegiances spread across many schools.  Pat Forde has always been a bit of a moron and often cannot mask his support of the University of Louisville (as their local writer), but I guess if he responds we will see what he meant.

 

i just wanted to add to that that the cleveland region is traditionally just as big on notre dame as osu. it's a two horse town for the big school support, it's not just osu. if cle is real big on osu lately its because the city sports fans are so desperate for a sports winner they can try to call their own or try to directly relate with.

 

true, fan allegiance in the cinci region traditionally seems more divided up among additional big schools as you say.

 

also, again generally speaking, espn is eternally out to get ohio -- or ignore the state. it's nothing to do with cinci in particular, it's the whole state. so bah to espn's editorial opinions and coverage choices. i mean do we really need 15 minutes of coverage on the ny giants on sportscenter? see what i mean? it's a freakin hour show about national sports, yet it always overslants local. ugh.

 

 

 

 

Then you have your kids who go to the big colleges around here, OU is the biggest, then Miami, then UC, then OSU, then some trickle into NKU and UK... no one really goes to the northeastern parts of ohio... maybe its part of the separation factor...

 

Huh?!?!?!  :wtf:

Well, he's talking about his own experience, and if I remember right, he's in Wilmington?  Wouldn't be surprise to see a ton of OU applicants from there...

Wow... I was glued to every post in this thread, what an interesting topic! Where I live, I'm in the middle of Cincinnati and Columbus... we root for OSU during the fall and UC during the winter... and never for the Browns. When I am down in Cincy (which is more often than not) I dont venture much farther than newport... the rest of kentucky is uncharted/scary territory to me.

 

Back to what the article was about... I agree with the fact that the author must have started out with 'the peninsula' first and needed to think of something to fill in the blank... Cincinnati is kind of like... The Texas of Ohio... Isolated, its own place, but still connected. Are you smelling what I'm stepping in?

 

**I guess that makes Kentucky the Mexico of Ohio... ha

 

I agree. I also think most students in high school in Cincinnati think to themselves "when I graduate, I'll probably go to UC or OSU" for OH schools ... Miami, I assume is the number 3 pick.

 

well i dont think this is true, atleast not at my high school.  most people from my hs went to miami then uc and then prob bg and then osu and then ou.  most ppl i run into up here at osu are from cbus or cland.  there are deff. ppl from cincy but not as prevalent.  just my experience though.

^^I had thought that OU was in northeastern Ohio??  I'm not questioning his statement about student's intentions.

No, it's in south-eastern Ohio:

 

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=athens+ohio&ie=UTF8&z=6&ll=39.993956,-81.430664&spn=7.286556,21.467285&om=1

 

huh..."I've been wrong before"... :laugh:

 

I appologize for being a moron!

^^I had thought that OU was in northeastern Ohio??  I'm not questioning his statement about student's intentions.

 

Wait...you thought OU was in NORTHeastern Ohio!??!?!  They don't even HAVE colleges in Northeast Ohio!

^That's why there's so many hardcore OSU fans in Cleveland... No one in Cincinnati has even heard of Cleveland State. If they have, they think it's a community college.

^That's why there's so many hardcore OSU fans in Cleveland... No one in Cincinnati has even heard of Cleveland State. If they have, they think it's a community college.

 

Wait...it isn't? ;)

^^I had thought that OU was in northeastern Ohio??  I'm not questioning his statement about student's intentions.

 

Wha?  Even this 3 year resident knew that one.  I can even tell you the town it is in and the Urban Ohio alum that attended.  One in particular has a fetish with Toledo ;)

^That's why there's so many hardcore OSU fans in Cleveland... No one in Cincinnati has even heard of Cleveland State. If they have, they think it's a community college.

 

Wait...it isn't? ;)

 

no, you're confusing it with wright state  :-P

Who said Wright State isn't a community college?  The only difference is that there are more than one college in the Dayton area besides Wright State (and Sinclair).  Cleveland, all you have are community colleges.

 

Tri-C!!!

But Wright and Cleveland St are both OSU spin-offs.

Slightly better than the Sunbury of Delaware of Marion of OSU branch.

^^I had thought that OU was in northeastern Ohio??  I'm not questioning his statement about student's intentions.

 

Wait...you thought OU was in NORTHeastern Ohio!??!?!  They don't even HAVE colleges in Northeast Ohio!

 

I'd hate to break that to my parents.

www.hiram.edu

^^I had thought that OU was in northeastern Ohio??  I'm not questioning his statement about student's intentions.

 

Wha?  Even this 3 year resident knew that one.  I can even tell you the town it is in and the Urban Ohio alum that attended.  One in particular has a fetish with Toledo ;)

 

I didn't know that Grasscat and Mecklenburg each has a fetish with Toledo. ;)

But Wright and Cleveland St are both OSU spin-offs.

Slightly better than the Sunbury of Delaware of Marion of OSU branch.

 

Spin-offs (read: community college versions of OSU).

 

^^I had thought that OU was in northeastern Ohio??  I'm not questioning his statement about student's intentions.

 

Wait...you thought OU was in NORTHeastern Ohio!??!?!  They don't even HAVE colleges in Northeast Ohio!

 

I'd hate to break that to my parents.

www.hiram.edu

 

Start breaking.

I didn't know that Grasscat and Mecklenburg each has a fetish with Toledo. ;)

 

hummmm......FBI: Toledo is a hub of teen prostitution  :roll:

Well, it is.  Toledo is the LAX of Young Whores.

It is the glass city with no glass companies. It is C-Dawg's Duluth.

^That's why there's so many hardcore OSU fans in Cleveland... No one in Cincinnati has even heard of Cleveland State. If they have, they think it's a community college.

 

Exactly, and this is my point on UC and it's history hear.

 

Atlas, I disagree, but I guess it depends on what high school you went to. I went to LaSalle before I moved and yes, quite a few of my friends ended up following their "dream".

 

 

mrnyc: also, again generally speaking, espn is eternally out to get ohio -- or ignore the state. it's nothing to do with cinci in particular, it's the whole state. so bah to espn's editorial opinions and coverage choices. i mean do we really need 15 minutes of coverage on the ny giants on sportscenter? see what i mean? it's a freakin hour show about national sports, yet it always overslants local. ugh.

 

Except for the Bengals. They get their fair share of coverage (even @ 5-5).

 

Well, it is.  Toledo is the LAX of Young Whores.

 

.....Let me guess, these alleged Young Whores are of the SouthWest Airlines Variety!  :wink2:

from my expieriences, here are the biggest trends

 

A very large amount of kids in the exurbs go to the exurb colleges, those NCAA DivIII schools with beautiful campuses, and neat little historical downtowns (i.e. Wittenberg, Antioch, Wilmington, Ohio Northern, Heidelburg, Muskingum)

 

After that, comes the smaller big schools, Wright State, UD, Morehead (KY), and OSU branches like Wooster, Mansfield, Lima

 

Then you have your kids who go to the big colleges around here, OU is the biggest, then Miami, then UC, then OSU, then some trickle into NKU and UK... no one really goes to the northeastern parts of ohio... maybe its part of the separation factor...

 

Lastly you have the kids that go far away. There is a big migration to Chicago, I'm even thinking about going there. Then you have the kids who think they hate their parents (or they could very well be going for educational purposes) who go to Miami, Florida, Washington State, and Arizona.

 

Those are just some observations, and I could have jsut as easily said, no one really goes to Cleveland for their education... but I am pretty bored this morning because I'm on Thanksgiving Break.

 

Now this is interesting....people from Ohio go to Morehead, in Kentucky.  Heck, not even Kentuckians go to Morehead (not any I knew at least).

 

WSU...I think whats going on there is that the kids who can't afford room and board at places out of Dayton, or who cant afford UDs tuition, go to WSU.  So turning up ones nose at WSU is sort of class thing (disparging the WSU's butt-ugly campus is purely an aesthetic critique and in no way reflects on the student body).

 

 

 

                                               

 

                                                       

 

                                                               

 

                                                               

                                                                                                                                                                                                   

My theory?  Dude had a clever thing to fill in a box with - "ooo, the Upper Penninsula is hardly even Michigan!  Hmm...now what the hell can I put on the Ohio side of the box?  Hmm..."

 

After reading 4 pages of posts, I think this is the most logical theory of all.