November 23, 200618 yr ^ indeed, and there just isn't any place in Ohio that is what the UP is to Michigan.
November 23, 200618 yr Who said Wright State isn't a community college? The only difference is that there are more than one college in the Dayton area besides Wright State (and Sinclair). Cleveland, all you have are community colleges. Tri-C!!! Wright State is a larger, uglier Shawnee State.
November 23, 200618 yr True. Shawnee State atleast has a Kroger with a mural on the side. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 23, 200618 yr Okay, just read this entire thread for the first time this morning......pretty educational actually....So Cincinnati really IS in Ohio and not NKY? :laugh:
November 23, 200618 yr True. Shawnee State atleast has a Kroger with a mural on the side. I ate at a pretty good irish pub when I was down in portsmouth for a science fair... but thats the end of it... nothing much else
November 23, 200618 yr I ate at a pretty good irish pub when I was down in portsmouth for a science fair... but thats the end of it... nothing much else ...except for the floodwall murals (see here), gorgeous Shawnee State Park, a lot of cool houses and buildings (especially in the Boneyfiddle District - see here), the Ohio river coming through town, and general semi-Appalachian southern Ohio happylovelygoodness (see here and here)... (With thanks to ColDay, Pigboy, Summit Street and Mohr37 for their Portsmouth threads!)
November 23, 200618 yr Well, its understood that the murals in Portsmouth are awesome, I won't argue that...
November 24, 200618 yr Wow... I was glued to every post in this thread, what an interesting topic! Where I live, I'm in the middle of Cincinnati and Columbus... we root for OSU during the fall and UC during the winter... and never for the Browns. When I am down in Cincy (which is more often than not) I dont venture much farther than newport... the rest of kentucky is uncharted/scary territory to me. Back to what the article was about... I agree with the fact that the author must have started out with 'the peninsula' first and needed to think of something to fill in the blank... Cincinnati is kind of like... The Texas of Ohio... Isolated, its own place, but still connected. Are you smelling what I'm stepping in? **I guess that makes Kentucky the Mexico of Ohio... ha I agree. I also think most students in high school in Cincinnati think to themselves "when I graduate, I'll probably go to UC or OSU" for OH schools ... Miami, I assume is the number 3 pick. From my expieriences, here are the biggest trends A very large amount of kids in the exurbs go to the exurb colleges, those NCAA DivIII schools with beautiful campuses, and neat little historical downtowns (i.e. Wittenberg, Antioch, Wilmington, Ohio Northern, Heidelburg, Muskingum) After that, comes the smaller big schools, Wright State, UD, Morehead (KY), and OSU branches like Wooster, Mansfield, Lima Then you have your kids who go to the big colleges around here, OU is the biggest, then Miami, then UC, then OSU, then some trickle into NKU and UK... no one really goes to the northeastern parts of ohio... maybe its part of the separation factor... Lastly you have the kids that go far away. There is a big migration to Chicago, I'm even thinking about going there. Then you have the kids who think they hate their parents (or they could very well be going for educational purposes) who go to Miami, Florida, Washington State, and Arizona. Those are just some observations, and I could have jsut as easily said, no one really goes to Cleveland for their education... but I am pretty bored this morning because I'm on Thanksgiving Break. I love how no one has talked about CWRU or JCU. The best "community colleges" in NE Ohio. I never really thought of the Mexico/Cincinnati connection. Last I was in Mexico, there were alot of 70's/80's Monte Carlos. I bet a few were SS's too. ;)
November 24, 200618 yr Actually, I went to both CWRU (dropped out before I failed out!) and JCU (eh...)...but I'd thought the discussion was mostly talking about public schools...maybe not...
November 24, 200618 yr I'm from Fairfield and I went to OSU mainly because the bulk of the college-bound students in my class were headed for Miami and UC, and I wanted something different. I think only about 8 out of a class of 500+ ended up at OSU with me. (Of course a few scattered to random colleges across the country.) I love the point about the Cincinnati/Texas Kentucky/Mexico connection :laugh:
November 24, 200618 yr They should have to have a valid bluegrass card to enter the state, lol I love the point about the Cincinnati/Texas Kentucky/Mexico connection I've been thinking about it for a while... but I never had anyone to tell it too
November 24, 200618 yr Who said Wright State isn't a community college? The only difference is that there are more than one college in the Dayton area besides Wright State (and Sinclair). Cleveland, all you have are community colleges. Tri-C!!! aww, you are totally glossing virginia marti, the f.i.t. of ohio. whooosh.
November 24, 200618 yr Why has noone mentioned Kent State or Akron for public Northeast Ohio schools?
November 24, 200618 yr Hehehehehheehhehehe Kent State heheheheheheheh Akron hehehehehehehehehe "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 24, 200618 yr Hehehehehheehhehehe Kent State heheheheheheheh Akron hehehehehehehehehe That ... is ... so ... low!
November 24, 200618 yr Another reason why OSU is so big up here in Cleveland lately is because 9 of the 22 starters on the team are from Cleveland. And Kent State University, leading the state in Architecture and Fashion. Man that really sucks. Co-ops at UC, what a waste of time.
November 24, 200618 yr Sounds like someone doesnt like UC I believe they are leading the state in Architecture and Design
November 24, 200618 yr UC is a fine school if you want a more technical education in architecture as opposed to a more theoretical/design oriented line of course work at KSU. Studying/living/partying in Europe for 5 months under a world renowned architect, instead of spending summers as a drafter as part of UC's education, is also an advantage of Kent State in my opinion.
November 25, 200618 yr Um...Architecture here is ranked 3rd I believe and a few years ago it was number 1. Interior design is 1st and industrial design is 2nd so were not doing too shabby with design.
November 25, 200618 yr nationaly... i might add so, whatever UC is doing, even if its not studying for 5 months in Europe... its working besides... if something were theoretical... wouldn't that mean it would have a greater chance of falling down?
November 25, 200618 yr Hehehehehheehhehehe Kent State heheheheheheheh Akron hehehehehehehehehe That ... is ... so ... low! Atleast I don't live in Kentucky (literally). Another reason why OSU is so big up here in Cleveland lately is because 9 of the 22 starters on the team are from Cleveland. And Kent State University, leading the state in Architecture and Fashion. Man that really sucks. Co-ops at UC, what a waste of time. Wait...KENT leading the state in architecture? (Fashion, sure). Aren't UC and OSU the only top ranking architectural schools in the state? "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 25, 200618 yr ^No. Kent State definitely has one of the best and is up there also, I'll have to find a link somewhere. Anyway as previously mentioned Cleveland had Case which trumps basically every other University in Ohio. Its funny to see how many of these threads start out about one thing then one post throws everything from then on on to another subject.
November 25, 200618 yr Wow... I was glued to every post in this thread, what an interesting topic! Where I live, I'm in the middle of Cincinnati and Columbus... we root for OSU during the fall and UC during the winter... and never for the Browns. When I am down in Cincy (which is more often than not) I dont venture much farther than newport... the rest of kentucky is uncharted/scary territory to me. Back to what the article was about... I agree with the fact that the author must have started out with 'the peninsula' first and needed to think of something to fill in the blank... Cincinnati is kind of like... The Texas of Ohio... Isolated, its own place, but still connected. Are you smelling what I'm stepping in? **I guess that makes Kentucky the Mexico of Ohio... ha I agree. I also think most students in high school in Cincinnati think to themselves "when I graduate, I'll probably go to UC or OSU" for OH schools ... Miami, I assume is the number 3 pick. From my expieriences, here are the biggest trends A very large amount of kids in the exurbs go to the exurb colleges, those NCAA DivIII schools with beautiful campuses, and neat little historical downtowns (i.e. Wittenberg, Antioch, Wilmington, Ohio Northern, Heidelburg, Muskingum) After that, comes the smaller big schools, Wright State, UD, Morehead (KY), and OSU branches like Wooster, Mansfield, Lima Then you have your kids who go to the big colleges around here, OU is the biggest, then Miami, then UC, then OSU, then some trickle into NKU and UK... no one really goes to the northeastern parts of ohio... maybe its part of the separation factor... Lastly you have the kids that go far away. There is a big migration to Chicago, I'm even thinking about going there. Then you have the kids who think they hate their parents (or they could very well be going for educational purposes) who go to Miami, Florida, Washington State, and Arizona. Those are just some observations, and I could have jsut as easily said, no one really goes to Cleveland for their education... but I am pretty bored this morning because I'm on Thanksgiving Break. I love how no one has talked about CWRU or JCU. The best "community colleges" in NE Ohio. I never really thought of the Mexico/Cincinnati connection. Last I was in Mexico, there were alot of 70's/80's Monte Carlos. I bet a few were SS's too. ;) I lost track three pages ago. I think it's now about KSU vs. the world. Since were are so far off topic it isn't even funny, let me interject something: MICHIGAN SUCKS. Go USC!!!! ;)
November 25, 200618 yr >I didn't know that Grasscat and Mecklenburg each has a fetish with Toledo. Are you refering to Matt Toledo? How many times am I called out on threads that I've never read?
November 25, 200618 yr ^No. Kent State definitely has one of the best and is up there also, I'll have to find a link somewhere. Anyway as previously mentioned Cleveland had Case which trumps basically every other University in Ohio. Its funny to see how many of these threads start out about one thing then one post throws everything from then on on to another subject. Kent I'm sure has a fine program but it does not rank with OSU or UC in regards to architecture (well, as of that 2006 ranking that [i believe] UncleRando or David posted in another thread). And Case doesn't really specialize on many subjects (for example, no architecture) so I can't really "count" that though Case's specialization, I'm sure, trumps whomever else's specialization in the state. Thus, the high ranking. Much like Washington University of St. Louis. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 25, 200618 yr He probably saw a different list put out by someone other than intelligent design magazine.
November 25, 200618 yr They are all trash. There are no schools north of Polaris Mall. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 26, 200618 yr You see, our "malls" are like a destination for ex-pat Clevelanders. Thus, I have to use a reference for the northerners to understand. Otherwise, I could say "our bombed out housing stock" but that would hit too close to home, now wouldn't it? "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 26, 200618 yr I know Case has excellent engineering and medical schools. There are plenty of colleges in NEO. Your malls are full of the same crap as everywhere else nothing at all special about them. The only thing Columbus has over Cleveland in the retail arena is Gameworks and Super Wal-marts... Big whoop. You make the statement as if all of Cleveland is bombed out, when really its the fairfax and hough neighborhoods. You talk about avoiding city vs city threads, but your incendiary comments provoke just that.
November 26, 200618 yr You see, our "malls" are like a destination for ex-pat Clevelanders. Thus, I have to use a reference for the northerners to understand. Otherwise, I could say "our bombed out housing stock" but that would hit too close to home, now wouldn't it? Funny that you say that. My favorite radio station is out of Mansfield and every commercial break you'll hear advertisements for a car dealer, furniture store, etc. They always use the Richland Mall as the focal point. It seems that the only thing the city of Shelby has going for it, is that it is 10 minutes north of Richland Mall LOL :)
November 26, 200618 yr OSU's architecture program isn't even accredited the last time I checked. Students from there have to go to other architecture schools to even get a bachelors. What's the point? For the most part, engineers worry about whether or not the buildings stand up anyway. Basically it comes down to getting a better design education at Kent, and a better technical education at UC. Or you can just go to ITT Tech for a two year degree and get the same experience as UC. ColDayMan's comments are as legitamite as an OSU or U of Miami architecture degree. Oh yeah, and I wouldn't take not being a part of Ohio as an insult Cincy. Who's too sensitive??? :wink:
November 26, 200618 yr Yeah, the Cincinnati insult thread...where one Cincinnatian ripped on espn in one post, and the Clevelanders proceeded to fill up five pages with insults and laughing at Cincinnati...meanwhile, we Cincinnatians were discussing the intricacies of early Ohio history and blowing the rest of it off...and still, Clevelanders would fill up the thread, and then ask why we're so sensitive. Sheesh.
November 26, 200618 yr ya'lls crazy I have one friend from cleveland... his name is Tarek... there is hope for us all to become united as a state
November 26, 200618 yr I know Case has excellent engineering and medical schools. There are plenty of colleges in NEO. Your malls are full of the same crap as everywhere else nothing at all special about them. The only thing Columbus has over Cleveland in the retail arena is Gameworks and Super Wal-marts... Big whoop. You make the statement as if all of Cleveland is bombed out, when really its the fairfax and hough neighborhoods. You talk about avoiding city vs city threads, but your incendiary comments provoke just that. Actually, Cleveland has Super Walmarts too (probably more than Columbus). OSU's architecture program isn't even accredited the last time I checked. Students from there have to go to other architecture schools to even get a bachelors. What's the point? For the most part, engineers worry about whether or not the buildings stand up anyway. Basically it comes down to getting a better design education at Kent, and a better technical education at UC. Or you can just go to ITT Tech for a two year degree and get the same experience as UC. ColDayMan's comments are as legitamite as an OSU or U of Miami architecture degree. Oh yeah, and I wouldn't take not being a part of Ohio as an insult Cincy. Who's too sensitive??? :wink: Wait...wait...WHAT THE HELL!?!? OSU architecture NON-accredited?!? It, Miami, and UC, are THE ONLY ACCREDITED schools in the state (I believe KENT was the program in doubt). Ask Highscrapa, Clevelumbus, and other forumers if OSU is "non-accredited." Again, the only architecture schools in the state that actually matter are OSU, Miami, and UC. That's it. Kent, stick with fashion and MayDay's Jacki-O sunglasses. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 26, 200618 yr I know Case has excellent engineering and medical schools. There are plenty of colleges in NEO. Your malls are full of the same crap as everywhere else nothing at all special about them. The only thing Columbus has over Cleveland in the retail arena is Gameworks and Super Wal-marts... Big whoop. You make the statement as if all of Cleveland is bombed out, when really its the fairfax and hough neighborhoods. You talk about avoiding city vs city threads, but your incendiary comments provoke just that. Actually, Cleveland has Super Walmarts too (probably more than Columbus). OSU's architecture program isn't even accredited the last time I checked. Students from there have to go to other architecture schools to even get a bachelors. What's the point? For the most part, engineers worry about whether or not the buildings stand up anyway. Basically it comes down to getting a better design education at Kent, and a better technical education at UC. Or you can just go to ITT Tech for a two year degree and get the same experience as UC. ColDayMan's comments are as legitamite as an OSU or U of Miami architecture degree. Oh yeah, and I wouldn't take not being a part of Ohio as an insult Cincy. Who's too sensitive??? :wink: Wait...wait...WHAT THE HELL!?!? OSU architecture NON-accredited?!? It, Miami, and UC, are THE ONLY ACCREDITED schools in the state (I believe KENT was the program in doubt). Ask Highscrapa, Clevelumbus, and other forumers if OSU is "non-accredited." Again, the only architecture schools in the state that actually matter are OSU, Miami, and UC. That's it. Kent, stick with fashion and MayDay's Jacki-O sunglasses. Actually no it doesn't not yet. Though one is about to be built.
November 26, 200618 yr So you're behind the curve due to your metro population loss in 2005. Gotcha. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 26, 200618 yr OSU's architecture program isn't even accredited the last time I checked. Students from there have to go to other architecture schools to even get a bachelors. What's the point? For the most part, engineers worry about whether or not the buildings stand up anyway. Basically it comes down to getting a better design education at Kent, and a better technical education at UC. Or you can just go to ITT Tech for a two year degree and get the same experience as UC. ColDayMan's comments are as legitamite as an OSU or U of Miami architecture degree. Oh yeah, and I wouldn't take not being a part of Ohio as an insult Cincy. Who's too sensitive??? :wink: eeerrr....you may want to check again. and this time, check before posting.
November 26, 200618 yr Someone should post a link to a page that says that OSU is a creditted Architecture school... Okay, I guess I will http://knowlton.osu.edu/ksa-new/_newversion/index5.asp?show=overview No where on the site, or OSU's site, could I find anything bragging about a national ranking or state ranking... If you can, I (and a few others) would like to see it.
November 26, 200618 yr Yeah, the Cincinnati insult thread...where one Cincinnatian ripped on espn in one post, and the Clevelanders proceeded to fill up five pages with insults and laughing at Cincinnati...meanwhile, we Cincinnatians were discussing the intricacies of early Ohio history and blowing the rest of it off...and still, Clevelanders would fill up the thread, and then ask why we're so sensitive. Sheesh. Uh....I was joking. Jesus, I'll never mention Kentucky again. :)
November 26, 200618 yr Accreditation The Two Year and Three-Plus Year Master of Architecture programs are accredited by the National Architectural Accrediting Board (NAAB). The Bachelor of Science in Architecture degree is a pre-professional degree and, therefore, is not independently accredited by NAAB. However, it is an integral part of the 4+2 program leading to the Two Year Master of Architecture. Both the Bachelor of Science in Landscape Architecture and the Master of Landscape Architecture programs are accredited by the Landscape Architectural Accreditation Board of the American Society of Landscape Architects. The Master of City and Regional Planning program is accredited by the American Planning Association’s Planning Accreditation Board. And... http://www.naab.org/usr_doc/Accredited_Programs_22.pdf (why does Kent say "Class of 2009!??") "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 26, 200618 yr http://www.archsoc.com/kcas/papers/Research2005.pdf Take a look at Page 24. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 26, 200618 yr But this is fun (having fun with the "sensitive" Clevelanders). But I must come back to Cleveland. Hot Sauce Williams is calling! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 26, 200618 yr I think we should move this thread to "City Discussions"... Grasscat??? ... LOL, ColDayMan, you are a trip, brother. ;)
November 26, 200618 yr No. We are not moving this to City Discussions. This topic is too silly and too unintelligent for the City Discussions audience. This belongs here...and so do you. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
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