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    The Raptors have out-Warriored the Warriors. This is shaping up to be the end of a dynasty. Kawhi ended the LeBron/Wade/Bosh Heat dynasty (denying them a three-peat) and is on the verge of doing the s

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    It was Danny Green who nearly screwed it up this time.   Hilarious to watch all the GSW fans complain "but injuries!!" without realizing/acknowledging their first title came against a Love a

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Timberwolves coach and Cleveland's own Flip Saunders has lost his battle with cancer.

 

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13968302/minnesota-timberwolves-coach-flip-saunders-dies-cancer-age-60

 

Like most, I was shocked and saddened by this.  Apparently Flip had only been diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma only a few months ago.  Cancer's a bitch.

 

Same here. I had no idea he was this sick. By all accounts he was not just a great coach, but one of the NBA's really good guys. So sad.

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well gs got whipped by the lowly lakers today. it wasnt a great game, but it was interesting to watch. so weird to see andy there.

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Momentous final night of the 2015-16 regular season:

 

- Kobe gets 60 points in his final NBA game (22 for 50 to do it!):  http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15199998/kobe-bryant-given-royal-send-ahead-last-game-los-angeles-lakers

 

- The Warriors got their 73rd win to eclipse the 95-96 Bulls 72-win season:  http://espn.go.com/blog/golden-state-warriors/post/_/id/1667/epic-history-stephen-curry-warriors-surpass-the-bulls-win-record

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The NBA just recently announced that teams can do this.  I'll bet almost all, if not all, teams have corporate logo on their jerseys by the start of next season.  I'm actually pleasantly surprised with how small that one is.

It could be worst. Professional soccer teams like Chevrolet, AVIVA, AON, AIA, Fly Emirates muck up their uniforms with those little seals on the top left of their uniforms.

It could be worst. Professional soccer teams like Chevrolet, AVIVA, AON, AIA, Fly Emirates muck up their uniforms with those little seals on the top left of their uniforms.

 

Don't forget the 5000:1 underdogs King Power.

 

 

The NBA just recently announced that teams can do this.  I'll bet almost all, if not all, teams have corporate logo on their jerseys by the start of next season.  I'm actually pleasantly surprised with how small that one is.

 

The NHL talked about this kind of game jersey sponsorship back in 2014.  But I don't think there's been any follow through and the NBA just beat them to the punch.

 

I posted in the NHL thread back then what some sponsored jerseys might look like:  http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,27918.msg733541.html#msg733541  --  The ads range from horrifically overwhelming to tastefully unobtrusive.

Three of the most storied franchises in the league - Philadelphia, LAL, and Boston - are now set to select 1, 2, 3 in the NBA draft.  Even with Boston getting their pick via trade (Nets for Garnett and Pierce), its amazing how the landscape of the league has changed with globalization.  There's really not much left to the notion of a 'big market team'..... maybe a little extra on a shoe deal, but that's about it.

maybe a little extra on a shoe deal, but that's about it.

 

Does Draymond Green get even more for his shoes (aka the Nutcrackers)?

 

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Crazy. Not the kind of violence you hear about in Canadian cities....

 

Raptors fan ejected from Game 4 for heckling refs murdered in Toronto

The Raptors fan who was ejected from his courtside seat during Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals for heckling a referee was fatally shot Tuesday afternoon.

By Lindsey Foltin  @LindseyBaseball

Jun 8, 2016 at 11:04a ET

 

The Raptors fan who was ejected from his courtside seat during Game 4 of the Eastern Conference finals for heckling a referee was murdered in Toronto on Tuesday, according to the Toronto Sun.

 

Sukh Deo, 34, was reportedly fatally shot while sitting in his Range Rover in broad daylight in midtown Toronto. Police say two men wearing construction vests fired at Deo's vehicle in an alley near a busy intersection, leaving at least 14 visible bullet holes in the driver's side window.

 

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http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/toronto-raptors-fan-murdered-heckling-referee-ejected-game-4-cleveland-cavaliers-060816

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Crazy. Not the kind of violence you hear about in Canadian cities....

 

Raptors fan ejected from Game 4 for heckling refs murdered in Toronto

The Raptors fan who was ejected from his courtside seat during Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals for heckling a referee was fatally shot Tuesday afternoon.

By Lindsey Foltin  @LindseyBaseball

Jun 8, 2016 at 11:04a ET

 

The Raptors fan who was ejected from his courtside seat during Game 4 of the Eastern Conference finals for heckling a referee was murdered in Toronto on Tuesday, according to the Toronto Sun.

 

Sukh Deo, 34, was reportedly fatally shot while sitting in his Range Rover in broad daylight in midtown Toronto. Police say two men wearing construction vests fired at Deo's vehicle in an alley near a busy intersection, leaving at least 14 visible bullet holes in the driver's side window.

 

MORE:

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/toronto-raptors-fan-murdered-heckling-referee-ejected-game-4-cleveland-cavaliers-060816

 

Sounds like he wasn't your "average" Canadian eh?  Courtside seats and killed in broad daylight in his Range Rover.  There is much more to this story....

Crazy. Not the kind of violence you hear about in Canadian cities....

 

Raptors fan ejected from Game 4 for heckling refs murdered in Toronto

The Raptors fan who was ejected from his courtside seat during Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals for heckling a referee was fatally shot Tuesday afternoon.

By Lindsey Foltin  @LindseyBaseball

Jun 8, 2016 at 11:04a ET

 

The Raptors fan who was ejected from his courtside seat during Game 4 of the Eastern Conference finals for heckling a referee was murdered in Toronto on Tuesday, according to the Toronto Sun.

 

Sukh Deo, 34, was reportedly fatally shot while sitting in his Range Rover in broad daylight in midtown Toronto. Police say two men wearing construction vests fired at Deo's vehicle in an alley near a busy intersection, leaving at least 14 visible bullet holes in the driver's side window.

 

MORE:

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/toronto-raptors-fan-murdered-heckling-referee-ejected-game-4-cleveland-cavaliers-060816

 

Sounds like he wasn't your "average" Canadian eh?  Courtside seats and killed in broad daylight in his Range Rover.  There is much more to this story....

Bingo. Perhaps he was in hiding and  inadvertently spotted by a past business associate.. ;)

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Reports are already coming out that the Warriors want to sign Durant, and if not, then they'll go after Nowitzki.

 

Will be interesting to watch what the Cavs do and if anyone in the East can put together a team to challenge LeBron/Kyrie.  K Love seems to be a prime trade candidate based on his awkward fit with this team, but if the team moves on from Mozgov, it's basically Love and TT down low.  With the evolving game play to smaller lineups, Love wouldn't be a horrible option at the 5 while Thompson rests, and vice versa.  Is Love ok being a 12/10 role type player while winning?  He's not featured a lot on offense because Irving and James need the lane open to operate and drive.  We'll see what they do.  Delly is a RFA, but if the team moves on from Mo they'll need a backup PG.  JR Smith has a player option, but it's below his market value most likely.

 

The cap is going to increase over $90m at least, so this summer will be intriguing to watch player movement.  Durant is obviously the biggest name to watch.  Does he commit himself to OKC? Go home? Go to the west coast?  The Celtics have a boatload of picks at the draft coming up, similar to how they landed Garnett and Ray Allen, but those caliber of players aren't available this summer.  Dwyane Wade can go where he pleases if he wants (Cleveland to start up the super team?), though he's well past his prime.

 

I'll be curious what San Antonio does.  I know Pop doesn't have a lot of time left coaching.  They need to readjust their core around Leonard and Aldridge, who they picked up in free agency last year.  Half their team this year was 34 or older.  Will this be the offseason they finally get younger and move on from their big 3 core?  Duncan at the very least seems primed for a retirement.

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^I'd be shocked if Durant went to the team that just beat him in the playoffs.  He would get ripped for fitting the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" cliché.  I don't think he leaves OKC, but it might depend on what the Thunder ownership is willing to do to keep that team competitive.  They have some tough decisions on the horizon with Ibaka, Adams, Kanter, and Waiters all wanting to get paid.  I also think that GSW has to think about its own players.  Curry is ridiculously underpaid, and Klay and Draymond are going to start feeling the same way once the new max contracts are set.

D Rose goes to Knicks? I have no idea how that plays out, mostly because I have no idea who is currently on the  Knicks besides Melo. Change of scenery might do him good.

^i think that move will be to the detriment of Porzingas.  It is another example of the NYC teams desperation to be relevant, similar to the Nets acquiring Pierce and Garnett a few years ago. That has proven to be one of the worst trades in NBA history. When you add on that DRose is going into a contract year, I like it even less. Either he has a great season and demands (new) max money or he busts and the team starts from scratch again.  They should be focusing in building around Porzingas, not trying to build a title winner before Melo is washed up

^i think that move will be to the detriment of Porzingas.  It is another example of the NYC teams desperation to be relevant, similar to the Nets acquiring Pierce and Garnett a few years ago. That has proven to be one of the worst trades in NBA history. When you add on that DRose is going into a contract year, I like it even less. Either he has a great season and demands (new) max money or he busts and the team starts from scratch again.  They should be focusing in building around Porzingas, not trying to build a title winner before Melo is washed up

 

If DRose is over his injuries and plays well the Knicks should challenge the Raptors, Hawks and Heat (depending on Bosh) for the 2nd best team in the East. You have two legit high scoring threats in Rose and Melo. I do agree, it's a short term "fix" that doesn't solve their long term problem.

I didn't realize he was going into a contract year. That makes more sense now from the Bulls side. The Knicks are just trying to stay relevant in a Johnny Manziel kind of way.

^i think that move will be to the detriment of Porzingas.  It is another example of the NYC teams desperation to be relevant, similar to the Nets acquiring Pierce and Garnett a few years ago. That has proven to be one of the worst trades in NBA history. When you add on that DRose is going into a contract year, I like it even less. Either he has a great season and demands (new) max money or he busts and the team starts from scratch again.  They should be focusing in building around Porzingas, not trying to build a title winner before Melo is washed up

 

If DRose is over his injuries and plays well the Knicks should challenge the Raptors, Hawks and Heat (depending on Bosh) for the 2nd best team in the East. You have two legit high scoring threats in Rose and Melo. I do agree, it's a short term "fix" that doesn't solve their long term problem.

 

Well, sure.  If they get MVP Rose, then this is a great trade.  But he hasn't been over anything in 3 years and when is the last time a player rebounded from such a long slump?  I suspect there will be some slivers of hope for the Knicks throughout the season where they play well, but overall it will be a disaster and will keep them from landing another high draft pick, which they ultimately need..... especially since the top-tiered free agents have no interest (despite what the NYC media thinks/expects).

Ibaka was traded to ORL for a package including Oladipo.  I don't know how OKC replaces what Serge gave them, but a backcourt duo of Oladipo and Westbrook is gonna be scary athletic

Astonishing trivia question - - which city is the birthplace of three of the last eleven NBA Draft #1 overall picks?

Not to mention 2 of the last 3 from Toronto!

^i think that move will be to the detriment of Porzingas.  It is another example of the NYC teams desperation to be relevant, similar to the Nets acquiring Pierce and Garnett a few years ago. That has proven to be one of the worst trades in NBA history. When you add on that DRose is going into a contract year, I like it even less. Either he has a great season and demands (new) max money or he busts and the team starts from scratch again.  They should be focusing in building around Porzingas, not trying to build a title winner before Melo is washed up

 

If DRose is over his injuries and plays well the Knicks should challenge the Raptors, Hawks and Heat (depending on Bosh) for the 2nd best team in the East. You have two legit high scoring threats in Rose and Melo. I do agree, it's a short term "fix" that doesn't solve their long term problem.

 

Well, sure.  If they get MVP Rose, then this is a great trade.  But he hasn't been over anything in 3 years and when is the last time a player rebounded from such a long slump?  I suspect there will be some slivers of hope for the Knicks throughout the season where they play well, but overall it will be a disaster and will keep them from landing another high draft pick, which they ultimately need..... especially since the top-tiered free agents have no interest (despite what the NYC media thinks/expects).

 

Yeah, I agree, even if DRose is 100% they'll win 50-55 games then lose in the second round or the Conference Finals. Then DRose will demand stacks of cash and likely leave meanwhile Knicks will be headed back to being a 30-35 win team. The Zen Master looks a lot like Isiah Thomas with this move.

Astonishing trivia question - - which city is the birthplace of three of the last eleven NBA Draft #1 overall picks?

 

Melbourne, right?

"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

Correct - Bogut, Kyrie, Simmons

These deals are going to be crazy with the huge jump in cap.

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The salaries are reflective of increased revenue. The pie is getting larger every year. Mike Conley, who is a solid player but has never made an all star team, just got nearly double the amount given to Tristan Thompson last summer, which everyone claimed was 'crazy' then.

I was skeptical at the time but the TT deal turned out to be the best money ever spent.

 

* Same with the 4/40 deal for Iman Shumpert.

Timo will make more than TT next year, and just $1mill less than Kyrie. Cavs were smart to lock up their core the past two summers. The cap jump next summer will be just as large.

So Dallas just offered Harrison Barnes a max deal. Wow...wonder if GS will match?

For all the Dallas / big market / Mark Cuban hype, the Mavs have never been able to lure a big time FA. This is about the best they can do, by signing GSW's 5th or 6th best player to a max offer sheet

For all the Dallas / big market / Mark Cuban hype, the Mavs have never been able to lure a big time FA. This is about the best they can do, by signing GSW's 5th or 6th best player to a max offer sheet

 

And I guess they're probably only going to get him if GSW lands Durant. But then GSW is stuck paying its 5th or 6th best player a max deal.

Durant to the Warriors on a 2 year 54 million dollar contract.

LOL that move is worse than LeBron joining the Big 3 in Miami.

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FWIW, the Warriors will now have four players on Team USA in Rio. These guys have played a lot of hoops in 2016.

The meltdown in Game 6 in OKC has changed the NBA landscape in a HUGE way.  In no way am I saying this won't make the Warriors more potent, but keep in mind that they had to clear out Bogut, Barnes, and Ezeli to sign him.  They did sign Zaza Pachulia to man the middle.  KD replaces Barnes and that is an unquestionable upgrade.  I'm not so sure about Pachulia though.  He has a great season (for him) in Dallas, but he doesn't give you what Bogut/Ezeli gave on the defensive side of the floor and will take a while to learn the system GSW runs which relies heavily on their big men setting good screens as their shooters are zig-zagging around the court to get open.  You also have to wonder who is going to sacrifice to appease KD.  Durant took over 20 shots per game last year.  Barnes took 9.  I don't think getting Durant creates more possessions for GSW.

 

I'm also wondering when Steph, Klay, and Draymond start demanding to get paid more than Timo Mozgov.

 

I'm also wondering when Steph, Klay, and Draymond start demanding to get paid more than Timo Mozgov.

 

Next CBA.  The NBAPA agreed to this, and they get GUARANTEED contracts.  So once it's signed...it's done.  No re-upping.

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Barbosa to the Suns. Rush to Minny. Idk.... Not to be a hater, but how wise can it be to lose half your rotation after setting all kinds of records. Still a good signing, but the risks are apparent. Also losing Luke Walton on that bench, fwiw.

Barbosa to the Suns. Rush to Minny. Idk.... Not to be a hater, but how wise can it be to lose half your rotation after setting all kinds of records. Still a good signing, but the risks are apparent. Also losing Luke Walton on that bench, fwiw.

 

But they added Mike Brown!

Barbosa to the Suns. Rush to Minny. Idk.... Not to be a hater, but how wise can it be to lose half your rotation after setting all kinds of records. Still a good signing, but the risks are apparent. Also losing Luke Walton on that bench, fwiw.

 

But they added Mike Brown!

 

Serious?

 

With GS cutting into their bench so deeply, I don't see how Curry and Thompson's minutes don't go up drastically. Didn't Steph average something like 28min last year?

Serious?

 

With GS cutting into their bench so deeply, I don't see how Curry and Thompson's minutes don't go up drastically. Didn't Steph average something like 28min last year?

 

Of course I'm not serious. I like Mike Brown, but I wouldn't say he's an upgrade.

 

I hope you're right on the second point.

Sorry, I am at the point where I'll believe anything this off-season.

GSW should be able to bring on a few more ring chasers. I doubt they will overplay Curry or anyone else, especially after the lesson they learned this year.  They will have sufficient depth. It's the chemistry I would worry about if I was a Dubs fan. The Warriors, 1 through 10, had some of the best chemistry this league has seen in a long time. That was a key ingredient in their success

For all the gripes about a perceived lack of parity in today's NBA, especially from former NBA players, looking at the actual facts is enlightening.  Between 2006 and 2016, seven different teams won the NBA championship (Mia, SAS, Bos, LAL, Mia, GSW, Cle).  Between 1980 and 2005, seven teams won the NBA championship (LAL, Phi, Bos, Det, Chi, Hou, SAS).

For all the gripes about a perceived lack of parity in today's NBA, especially from former NBA players, looking at the actual facts is enlightening.  Between 2006 and 2016, seven different teams won the NBA championship (Mia, SAS, Bos, LAL, Mia, GSW, Cle).  Between 1980 and 2005, seven teams won the NBA championship (LAL, Phi, Bos, Det, Chi, Hou, SAS).

 

Part of this is due to the stability of teams and dynasties of the 80s and 90s eras.  With the exception of Philly's 1 title in 1983, all of those teams listed during 1980-2005 won more than one title, with LA, Boston and Chicago, especially Chicago, having dynasties -- LA had both Showtime in the 80s and Kobe/Shaq during the 2000s.  But realize that, until O'Neal left Orlando to join Kobe, superstars rarely left teams during that era and, when they did, it was only Michael Jordan: leaving the Bulls dynasty at the end of his career futilely trying to recapture his glory days with the sorry Wizards. Now with the salary cap and free agency going berserk, superstars are moving every off season -- as we painfully know here in Cleveland in 2010, but as we happily know in 2014, when a certain local megastar boomeranged.  The 1st "Super-friends" team was the Boston "Big 3" in 2007-08, where 3 superstars were put together on a team that won it all its 1st season... Hence we now have a bizarre form a parity has been created...

 

As for Durant to Golden State, I know everybody here is upset and feels the Cavs are major underdogs to repeat.  I'm not one of them.  GSW was (and I emphasize past tense for a reason) a unique and special phenomena because they drafted a couple guys: Steph and Klay, who developed over the course of years from promising draftees to superstar shooters.  Then they peopled the team with a number of misfits: like Draymond Green, who was viewed at the draft as a "tweener" who just didn't have the size of a 4 or the speed of a 3 to be successful: Dude was earning $700K until last year's title.  Harrison Barnes was an underachiever since UNC, allegedly.  Andre Iguodala was an athletic hard worker who couldn't shoot; Shaun Livingston, the injury comeback success story, and NBA vagabond Mo Speights, a poor defending big who can fill it up from outside, both did time here during the dark days in between LeBrons... and  etc., etc... But Steve Kerr, building on Mark Jackson's model, developed this wacko, selfless, passing, 3-point shooting gunslinger team from the 2-developed star guards and a bunch of role players who neatly fit in...

 

... Now the Warriors have brought in a future HOFer in Durant who is a ball-dominant guy and, obviously, a great shooter, but who also can hurt his teams when he goes cold and over-handles the ball.  KD is not a misfit who couldn't fit in; he's always been the center of attention.  He is also not a prototype Golden State, pass-first, run-and-gunner... Now also comes slow-moving, spot-up shooter in David West who is old now but demands attention.  On top of that, despite their gaudy 73-win regular season, we have the Cavs which flipped the script on them; came back from the brink and beat down their so-called "Lineup of Death" with a harassing defense that mostly stayed Big with quick, spot-on guard play that totally flummoxed the Splash Brothers.  The fact that GSW couldn't close the deal on the title after 73-wins, the unanimous MVP while kicking the Cavs' asses all over the floor from Game 4 in last year's finals through the regular season up until Game 3 in this year's finals, has thrown the Warriors into doubt, scratching their collective heads searching for answers, with Steve Kerr returning to the drawing board trying to make all the pieces work.

 

Meanwhile LeBron, in that spectacular, unprecedented finals comeback 3-weeks ago which, by the way, erased 52 years of Cleveland sports title misery, just moved into legendary status, while his Tonto (aka Kyrie Irving) stole the spotlight from MVP Curry while thoroughly kicking his a$$ in the process.  Point being that GSW just had it's ego popped while suddenly adopting title-chasing KD, a top 5 player who likely demands teams play to his system rather than subordinating to theirs...

 

... good luck with that against our brimming-with-confidence Cavs.

 

 

 

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