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If he does re-sign in Miami, I would be flat out shocked if it was anything more than a two year deal, with an ETO after one year.  He now knows that he needs to keep the pressure on the Heat to spend.

 

Here's the kicker which I would really enjoy watching unfold.  If LBJ does indeed leave the Heat, the brass would probably want to amnesty Dwayne Wade.... a new CBA provision which allows a team to waive one player even if in the middle of his contract so as to avoid the luxury tax.  However, each team was only given one amnesty under the CBA and the Heat already used it on Miller.  So if Lebron leaves and Miami is in the tank, don't be surprised if Wade is 'overcome' by some injury and sits out the season, or a good bit of it while earning every penny he signed for and no ability for the Heat to do anything about it.  Karma.

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The Miami Heat is LeBron's employer.  Nike, Coke-Cola, Samsung are endorsement partners.  Two vastly different things.

 

The Miami Heat own Lebron's exclusive rights as far as the NBA is concerned.  He can't play for another NBA team so long as he is under contract with the Heat.  Nike owns Lebron's exclusive rights as far as the shoe business is concerned.  I'm sure the contract with Nike restricts his ability to work for another shoe company.  He signed contracts with both, for x amount of years and x amount of dollars.  It is not that different if you think about it.  One is a personal services contract and the other is an endorsement contract.  Neither is your typical employment contract.

It's not that simple and you know it.  One of the things I deal with is Partnerships. ;)

If he does re-sign in Miami, I would be flat out shocked if it was anything more than a two year deal, with an ETO after one year.  He now knows that he needs to keep the pressure on the Heat to spend.

 

Here's the kicker which I would really enjoy watching unfold.  If LBJ does indeed leave the Heat, the brass would probably want to amnesty Dwayne Wade.... a new CBA provision which allows a team to waive one player even if in the middle of his contract so as to avoid the luxury tax.  However, each team was only given one amnesty under the CBA and the Heat already used it on Miller.  So if Lebron leaves and Miami is in the tank, don't be surprised if Wade is 'overcome' by some injury and sits out the season, or a good bit of it while earning every penny he signed for and no ability for the Heat to do anything about it.  Karma.

 

 

Do you think Bosh is a max level talent at this point?  I mean, if the Heat were to implode and he opts out, does he get top dollar from another team?

If he does re-sign in Miami, I would be flat out shocked if it was anything more than a two year deal, with an ETO after one year.  He now knows that he needs to keep the pressure on the Heat to spend.

 

Here's the kicker which I would really enjoy watching unfold.  If LBJ does indeed leave the Heat, the brass would probably want to amnesty Dwayne Wade.... a new CBA provision which allows a team to waive one player even if in the middle of his contract so as to avoid the luxury tax.  However, each team was only given one amnesty under the CBA and the Heat already used it on Miller.  So if Lebron leaves and Miami is in the tank, don't be surprised if Wade is 'overcome' by some injury and sits out the season, or a good bit of it while earning every penny he signed for and no ability for the Heat to do anything about it.  Karma.

 

 

Do you think Bosh is a max level talent at this point?  I mean, if the Heat were to implode and he opts out, does he get top dollar from another team?

Hell no.  Remember Bosh is the ugly step sister in this entire thing.

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That Paul George injury last night in the Team USA intrasquad scrimmage was beyond horrific (worse than Theisman, it seemed).  What a tragedy for a rising superstar who was out there representing his country and putting on a showcase for the fans in advance of the FIBA World Cup.  I highly recommend avoiding the footage.  I was watching the game live while getting in a workout and I couldn't finish my sets after seeing the replay.  The game was called immediately as the other players were all noticeably shaken up.

 

The reaction from the bench tells the story.....

 

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All you need to know about the seriousness of Paul George's injury is that I'm looking at Kyrie Irving sobbing,crying in his Dads arms.

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I don't recommend seeing it either. I saw it on Fox Sports before I knew what I was watching. I wanted to cry too.

It was bad.  I have 5 18 year old in my house right now and they were watching.  My little cousin was visibly shaken up.  Since they've been in NY, they go to Central Park to play pickup BB, but they didn't go this morning.  That footage was not cute and as Hts121[/member] noted as soon as I saw it I thought of heisman and my brother.  That injury ended my brothers football career.

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whoa!

 

NBA reaps massive windfall in new TV deals

 

By Tim Bontemps

October 6, 2014 | 10:15am

 

 

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NBA superstars brace for 2017 labor fight over TV dollars

 

 

While the NBA is thrilled about the massive nine-year, $24 billion television deal with ESPN and TNT it announced Monday morning, the league’s job of figuring out how the influx will affect the league’s salary structure has only just begun.

 

Because the salary cap is set based on the league’s revenue, the NBA getting almost three times as much money from its national television deal each season – $2.66 billion per year under the new deal compared to a little over $900 million from the current one – will increase significantly bump up the cap number.

 

more:

http://nypost.com/2014/10/06/nba-reaps-massive-windfall-in-new-tv-deals/

Whoa...

 

"@okcthunder: News: Kevin Durant diagnosed with Jones fracture of right foot. More details coming later today from Thunder GM Sam Presti."

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Per my big brained wife, a Jones fracture is on the outside of your foot and is really difficult to heal due to poor blood supply. It's in the bone that leads to your little toe. It could be a season threatening injury.

The early diagnosis is 6-8 weeks.  Some are saying as long as 12 weeks.  Apparently, the injury was discovered before it became serious enough to threaten his season.  That said, NBA teams are notorious for downplaying injuries and NBA players are sometimes in no rush to return....... see Derrick Rose.

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Funny Andrew Wiggins commercial.

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whoa that is funny -- nice to see he has a good sense of humor about it -- i am definitely following and keeping my eye on him, bennett and the t-wolves

Two things of note from tonight. Dirk passed Hakeem Olajuwon to become the all time scoring leader among international players. Kobe become the all time leader in FG misses

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yeah i saw that about kobe on espn. i think it also said he also has more points than the rest of the lakers combined over his career.

The Lakers are now 1-9 and allowed 115 points to Golden State -- through three quarters! They are a plane crash into a train wreck aboard a sinking ship. I feel bad for two people: Kobe, as I doubt this is what he imagined as the sunset of his career. And Byron Scott who has been put in charge of a disaster -- twice.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I don't feel bad for Kobe because I think his dominating personality is one of the reasons stars don't want to go to LA.

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Ouch, Jabari Parker out for the year. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12040203/milwaukee-bucks-suspect-jabari-parker-lost-season-torn-acl

 

So Hts121[/member] looks like you are off the hook for your inevitable defeat...lol.

Actually that's a tough break for Parker I wanted to see him and Wiggins battle for ROY. Seeing that they both earned rookie of the month in November we can call it a tie. The numbers were very similar across the board with Parker being the better shooter. Although they both scored almost the same amount of pts. in similar minutes played and attempts.

We will have to watch them go head to head next year, hopefully Parker can recover fully.

Was the bet still on with Wiggins going to the TWolves?  Hmmmmm..... I think so.  Yeah, that's a tough break for Jabari.  FWIW, he was in the lead for ROY.  I'll give you that Wiggins has come along a lot better than I thought for his rookie year, but he is also playing on a terrible team and getting a lot of touches.  Parker was a legit contributor for a surprisingly decent Bucks team.  Their numbers were somewhat similar when Parker went down, although Parker was shooting 49% and Wiggins is shooting 39%.  So his efficiency was much higher.

Big trade last night with Rondo going to Dallas in exchange for Brandon Wright, Jae Crowder, a 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick.  Wright is vastly underrated IMO, but the Mavs still got a steal.  The West just got a little bit better, as that conference seems to do every year by its teams being 'buyers' and some team from the East having a fire sale.

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The NBA today named Minnesota Timberwolves forward Andrew Wiggins as its Kia NBA Western Conference Rookie of the Month for December. This is the second consecutive month Wiggins has earned the honor, becoming the first Timberwolves player to win the award multiple times in the same season. Wiggins led all Western Conference rookies in scoring (14.6 ppg) and minutes played (33.9) during December, while ranking 2nd in blocks (0.6 bpg), 3rd in rebounding (4.1 rpg) and 4th in steals (0.87 spg). He tallied 20+ points five times during the month, and was the Wolves top scorer on four occasions. Wiggins finished the month averaging 20.0 points on 50.8% shooting during the team's month-closing four-game road trip. NBA.com

^He's playing better than I expected, but putting up such numbers on a horrible team can be very deceiving.  Read this - http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/andrew-wiggins-lebron-james/

 

A few highlights:

 

- In fact, Wiggins has been one of the worst players in basketball this season — period. Among players logging as many minutes as he has, nobody has a lower Statistical Plus/Minus (SPM) or Box Plus/Minus (BPM) or fewer Win Shares per 48 minutes. And only Channing Frye has a lower Player Efficiency Rating. ESPN’s Real Plus/Minus is slightly kinder to Wiggins, but not by much.

 

-At the end of the season, then, our best guess is that Wiggins will have posted a -2.9 SPM in about 2,400 minutes.  While that means Wiggins is no longer in Adam Morrison territory, not many players with a -2.9 SPM their rookie season end up having great careers. A sampling of players in that range as rookies includes Ben McLemore, Anthony Johnson, Gordan Giricek, Kevin Edwards and Vernon Maxwell, with Glen Rice and Rex Chapman representing the absolute best-case scenarios. But Wiggins is also much younger than those players were when they were rookies, so we need to adjust the rookie SPM numbers using an aging curve.

 

- Based on the relationship between age-equivalent rookie SPM and peak WAR for that group, Wiggins looks to be on track for about 6 WAR in the best season of his career. That’d be a major disappointment if the comparison point is James (who tallied nearly 26 WAR in his best year), but then again, it’s better than you might expect based on Wiggins’s horrid statistical production as an NBA rookie thus far.

^Way to much analytics for a 19 yr old. Let's just watch it play out.

^Probably too much for a kid.  The concern with him is I see no light at the end of the tunnel for Minny.  He is going to be on a bad team for awhile and that will make any successes he has hard to judge. 

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from the daily news - stabby late night club business:

 

 

Indiana Pacers forward Chris Copeland stabbed at 1 OAK in NY

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Today, 6:46 AM

 

 

NBA Player Chris Copeland Stabbed at NYC Nightclub

WPIX - New York

 

Chris Copeland, a former member of the New York Knicks now playing for the Indiana Pacers, was stabbed in the abdomen during an argument at 1 OAK club in Chelsea early Wednesday, cop sources said.

 

Copeland’s attacker was arrested, and two members of the Atlanta Hawks, Pero Antić and Thabo Sefolosha, were also booked, for trying to prevent police from setting up a crime scene, the sources said.

 

A woman who was with Copeland and later described by police sources as his wife, Katrine Saltara, was slashed amid the fracas, which happened shortly before 4 a.m., as the popular club on West 17th St. was preparing to close. An argument erupted as Copeland and the suspect were leaving, the sources said.

 

Both those teams (Indiana and Atlanta) play tonight.  I know these are grown men, but I always wonder how their teams react to the news that the players were out until the wee-hours of the morning the night before a game.  Most teams have morning shoot-arounds on game day, so it is not like they were planning on sleeping in and getting their 8 hours.

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Cool graphic tweeted by Wild Thing.....

 

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#GlobalFanAppreciationDay @cavs @NBA @NBABrasil

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^I don't follow.  Worthy - UK?  Hardaway - Turkey?  Payton - Indonesia?

I think they were army brats.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Hmmmm..... not sure about that.  I know Ben Gordon was born in England, but the chart ties him to Brazil.  Worthy was born in North Carolina.

THIS JUST IN: NBA teams were advised league's salary cap could rise past $100M mark as soon as 2017-18 season.

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

That's been known for awhile. It's the reason LeBron signed a short term deal with opt outs and the reason KLove won't opt out of his contract this summer

That's been known for awhile. It's the reason LeBron signed a short term deal with opt outs and the reason KLove won't opt out of his contract this summer

 

But it wasn't made official by the NBA. Most everyone knew it was coming thanks to the new TV deal. But the NBA never admitted to it.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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What was the more surprising D'Angelo Russell news at last night draft?

 

- The Lakers picking him with their #2 pick;

- Or that sweet-looking Scarlet & Gray blazer he wore

 

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In the days leading up to the draft, it became quite clear that the Lakers liked Russell more than Okafur.  Some people thought it was a smokescreen for Philly given that they already have Noel and Embiid and would be in a tough spot to add yet another big man Top 3 pick, but it turned out the Lakers really did like him better

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The DeAndre Jordan saga was fun to follow last night.  One of the most ridiculous and fantastic nights on twitter I can remember.  An emoji battle went full-scale

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I saw that and I think it's a really odd gimmick.

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no, its a gimmick, but not really odd. its just for a handful of games, its not like they are changing their name to the mighty ducks or anything like that. it ties into a the 30th anniversary and rerelease of hoosiers and at least it is based on reality. really odd for this coming season are the special christmas day uniforms with the players first names.

 

speaking of this special event uniform stuff, i dk why the cavs didnt jump on hispanic heritage day and st patricks day uniforms. that is some major lost goodwill opportunity.

I think it's akin to the Cleveland Browns wearing Massillon Tigers uniforms. We're talking about a fictional high school team that isn't even located in Indianapolis and an anniversary related to a movie release. At least if the Browns honored Massillon that it would make more sense because Massillon is a real school and there's a direct connection there.

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^ it is and i wouldnt have any problem with something like that. it would be fun for like one throwback game. they would just have to find a reason to do it. a pre-season game maybe? i like the hispanic and st pats day uni's too. i just don't see that these one off or limited throwback uniform events fall anywhere near into the "really odd" range as much as some thing like naming an nhl team the mighty ducks does. i mean, it happens and it goes away (unlike the new xbox/ps4 or whatever browns uniforms, unfortunately).

Fair enough. Also remember that the Toronto Raptors were named after dinosaurs from the movie Jurassic Park.

 

One thing I noticed with the Hispanic Heritage uniforms was that it seems like those were mostly limited to cities/regions with large proportions of Hispanic. I sort of understand why Cleveland never got involved. Only Chicago and Boston wore St. Patrick's Day uniforms and again I think there's a stronger connection there. (Though Cleveland actually has a higher percentage of Irish-American citizens than Chicago).

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^ exactly. that what happens when we have a carpet-bagger nba owner. he doesnt know this. -- yes mostly meaning about the irish. some people need to stop saying yes to him long enough to school him to get on these things. it builds good karma and publicity and rightly keeps cle in league with the big dog city franchises at least.

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this isnt anything new, but the post says the russian is playing hardball and is finally near buying out the ratners for both the nets and the barclay arena:

 

 

 

Prokhorov nears deal to buy all of Barclays Center, Nets

 

By Josh Kosman and Tim Bontemps

September 3, 2015 | 12:23am

 

 

Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov is nearing a deal to buy all of the Barclays Center and the Brooklyn Nets from Bruce Ratner’s Forest City Enterprises, The Post has learned.

 

Prokhorov has been in talks to buy the 55 percent of the arena and 20 percent of the NBA team he does not already own. Under the deal being discussed, he would kick in little cash beyond forgiving the roughly $31 million Forest City owes him to cover team losses, according to two sources familiar with the situation.

Onexim Group, Prokhorov’s investment vehicle, earlier extended until Sept. 8 a deadline for when Forest City needs to pony up about $6 million to cover its share of the Nets’ losses for the 2015-16 season. That’s on top of the $25 million it owes for past seasons.

 

Selling the sports interests would make it easier for developer Forest City to pull off a complicated conversion to a tax-advantaged real estate investment trust, which would help boost its share price.

 

“People can’t wait for them to sell these assets so they can focus on real estate development,” said one analyst who follows the company.

 

A deal with Prokhorov would come after Forest City tried and failed to find an outside buyer in an auction.

Prokhorov didn’t make that sale process any easier by withholding financial information, according to sources close to the process.

 

Forest City could end up pocketing less than $100 million on the sale of the team and the arena to Prokhorov, according to one analyst.

 

The team is valued at an estimated $700 million, according to the analyst who follows Forest City. After subtracting $210 million of debt, the franchise has an equity value of $490 million.

Forest City’s 20 percent would be worth around $100 million, and it shares 38 percent of its Barclays and Nets stake with partners. So, minus its $31 million in team losses, the firm and its partners would realize a gain of less than $70 million.

 

When Prokhorov bought control of the Nets in 2010, it was also for a disappointing price of about $200 million following a lukewarm auction.

 

Meanwhile, Barclays Center is projected to generate $55 million in annual operating income but has debt of $640 million. That leaves little equity value even at a sale price of 10 times annual operating income.

Both Onexim and Barclays declined comment, while Forest City did not return calls requesting comment.

 

 

 

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