This isn’t a St Anne’s Hill thread as it goes beyond that neighborhood a bit, (though this is the main street of St Anne’s Hill….Richard Street might have been too).. This pix thread will walk east to the old city limits (where Huffman intersects and the Dayton, Xenia, & Belpre railroad crosses 5th &), and then return west. 

 

The gateway to East Dayton….the Liederkranz-Turner  hall one one side.  The Liederkranz is one of three(seems like a lot) German clubs in Dayton, and was a merger of two.  The Turners Hall was wiped out by urban renewal (around where Keowee  goes through now), as was the Liederkranz hall on Wayne Avenue  (hit by the Haymarket renewal project  I think)

 

Dayton Liederkranz-Turner.   

 

The clubs here must be pretty active as Dayton hosted the Sangerfest this year, at the Convention Center, of all the German singing societies (not sure if it was national or just regional).

 

Enough of Deutschtum, across the street the other big landmark on the way into East Dayton is Stivers, the basis for the fictional “St Ives” high school in the old Steve Canyon comic strip (im just old enough to remember both Steve Canyon and Terry and the Pirates).

 

 

..unlike its peer, Steele (cross town rival) and Roosevelt this one looks like its going to stay.

 

Heading east, the costume shop, and a contrast between sunny and cloudy days, how the mood changes….

 

 

 

The violin shop again

 

 

 

And this big mural thing with a memory of a more lively 5th Street.  The streetcar (horse car)  did come down here, but there was also a branch that went down Labelle and east on Richard to near Linden….that’s another thread.

 

(you can see the American Saloon in the distance, little blue corner bldg).

 

 

The American Saloon.  Nothing special,  no, never been (are you kidding?),… I just like the name. 

 

 

 

Getting beyond the American Saloon, shotgun house with storefront, and a residence set further back on the lot next door.  Maybe that’s what this street was like when it started to get build on….

 

 

Another corner store (but not on a corner)… look at the later permastone modernization…

 

 

Next door, the old I-house, with a commercial building next to it.  According to the 1869 atlas there was a lot building on this street by then.

 

 

 

…and the scary apartment building (believe me, in the summer, this area is a bit too edgy for me around here.…)

 

 

 

Continuing east, this has been more or less looking at the south side of 5th, this looks down the north…

 

 

…a remnant of Dayton’s “Sin City” era….we are starting to get into the questionable Newcom Plain neighborhood.

 

 

Back looking at the South side of 5th…Sam’s Chili-Bowl (is it even in buisiness?)

 

 

This is a great old building, a very elaborate double,  but note the large vacant lot next door (well, I cropped that out, but you can see a bit of it)

 

 

Continuing to look east on 5th….Tripletts…a good old Kentucky surname.  I went to high school with a Triplett.,  In the distance you can see the circle-K minmart sign, which was the location of a pseudo-gay bashing (the guy who was bashed was a local indy/punk musician, not gay), back in the early 90s.  The local music scene at that time did benefits for his hospital bills.

 

 

This is not really a safe area, in fact I was questioned while I was taking these pix by a somewhat scary character with a backpack…semi-homeless perhaps?

 

Don’t know what it was or anything about it, but it looks interesting.

 

 

Dayton Desolation Row,  lost its cornice, boarded up, and waiting for demolition.  The green building behind it was the old ice cream cone factory.  I’ve heard the ice cream cone was invented here, but I think they just made them here.

 

 

The end of the line for us…the railroad crossing, where Huffman meets 5th.  This was the city limits from incorporation until after the Civil War, as this is where the Cooper out-lots ended.    The horse cars were extended out past here between 1885 and 1890, running from Wayne & Fifth, down Fifth to Findlay Street. 

 

 

I didn’t go in here.  This used to be Grandma Virgies Pies, but she relocated to Belmont.  I think it really is a little diner, not just a bar masquerading as a diner.

 

 

Heading back west on Fifth from the railroad….semi-abandoned commercial building across the street.

 

 

Tripletts again

 

 

Believe it or not that corner storefront used to be the Dayton MCC parish….a storefront congregation!  The MCC is the Metropolitan Community Church, which has a largely lesbian and gay following.   Their service is structured somewhat like the Catholic Mass, but they also have a strong Pentacostalist/evangelical  strand (the founder was a Pentacostalist).  MCC relocated to larger sancturary in Belmont, I think, and this belongs to another congregation….

 

 

North Side of Fifth, including a cottage…..unfortunately I neglected the north side of the street a bit here.…

 

 

Continuing to head west…that low brick wall around this brace of houses seems to say that they where all under one owner for awhile?

 

 

More storefronts.  These look like old taverns…right next door to each other?  This must’ve been a pretty boozy place at one time.

 

 

Real close to the street here….

 

 

…and finally, looking down the hill into the city…Stivers, .then the urban renewal  emptiness.…& the spire of that Catholic church on Bainbridge Street (never can remember the name) is visible in the distance, beyond is the Oregon district.

 

 

Storefront in the foreground belongs to the Liederkranz-Turner, as its on their parking lot. 

 

 

Holy Trinity is the name of the church. Never been in it. As far as I know, the only Roman Catholic church in Dayton to have a mass in Spanish(Hispanic).

 

I came accross this book online that mentioned Paul L Dunbar lived at 1608 E Fifth St, but I never had the chance to look for the house/building specifically. It should be right around here. Here's the site: http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/daav/chap4.htm It's reference marked 74.

Great walk.

Thanks, Coldayman.  I am getting more curious about this area so might be posting more on it again.....I've driven by here a lot, and did go to that MCC for a bit, but never really got out of the car and walked this area before....a bit different on foot! 

 

Holy Trinity is the name of the church. Never been in it.

 

Thanks...I knew it was not named after a saint but couldn't remember a name.....I went there for mass one Easter, years ago.  The interesitng thing that suprised me was that the nave wasnt vaulted, but had this somewhat flat ceiling...it had paintings and coffers and all and was as high as one would expect, but it was sort of suprising as I was expecting something a bit more gothic. 

 

They still do have that Spanish mass, too.....im not sure if other parishes are doing that too, now.

 

 

 

 

Nice.

Got some good bones, but it doesn't help that the street is car-oriented. You can fit two cars in one of those lanes and it looks like pedestrians have a long way to walk between lights.

Nice pictures! I go up and down this street almost daily on my way to and from places where I volunteer. Nice to know more of the history of the various buildings. Thanks! :)

Glad this got bumped! Great tour here; I've driven by a number of times but have never really slowed down to see and learn the details a shown in these photos. So, three years late, thanks!