Thanks for the pic.

Here is a drive-by pic from today...They really do not appear to be moving with blazing speed on the condos, but the garage looked open and occupied.

 

damn, the condos don't look much different from when i last noticed them at the taste of cincinnati.  partial 3rd floor added, but not much else.

Yeah, if you look at my pic from June 16th, they completed the second floor and some of the third in five weeks.  I don't know what is taking so long, it is just wood frame construction and not really that big a project.

Some pics taken yesterday, 9/10.  This has got to be the slowest moving project in history. It is not that big and look at the difference from my post above from several months ago, not much change!

 

 

That does seem to be moving amazingly slow.

Yet it seemed like they threw the garage up in three days.  Priorities, priorities....

Good things come to those who wait. I have a good feeling about that part of town when these condos are completed and occupied.

Man, what a great location!

Are these places selling well/sold out???

An MLS search for properties on Vine St. shows that only 3 units are Under Contract. I imagine it will be much easier to sell them when they are closer to completion.

I really don't understand why they didn't put commercial space on the first floor.  People financing these things just can't get their mind around mixed-use.

Dragging right along......Another month and they have managed to brick the facade of one small portion.

 

ugh.  no articulation whatsoever.  shaping up to be another disappointment should they ever actually complete it.

i think they are looking good. it might be hard to tell for sure until they are closer to done.

 

yeah they do beg for ground floor retail don't they -- that is a shame.

I thought there were plans to put some storefronts on the first floor.  Did the plans change, or do you mean the whole first floor should be retail? 

I don't really see the need for retail there.  There's plenty of empty storefronts across the street.  Why would you want to double that number? 

These condos have live work spaces .owners can open shop to the public downstairs if they wish, and live upstairs.

does not look like it from the pictures but it is hard to tell.

Some of the later renderings posted earlier in this thread (whose links are now broken) showed one retail space on the first floor at the corner.  In addition to the one tiny space already built into the garage.

I talked with the hard-hat man at the downtown tour of living and he said that starbucks might open there..at the corner of vine and central parkway......

I guess I have a differing opinion.  But I actually like them. 

 

 

^Those would look nice along the Middletown garage where the old y was.

I almost sold one of these a few weeks ago.  It has changed from the original drawings but the interiors will be great (exterior also)  It is my understanding that there is commercial space on the street floor however nothing had sold yet.  24 units available but only 3 sold ( I will verify that number)  cost flexibility was tight but I am confident that the downtown office of HUFF will move these properties.  It is a bold location, as it is north of the CBD border but this and the American Building (Comey City Listing) are the first major inroads into OTR.  I wish them well and will try and push these projects as much as I can.  Ask for a tour, they are available.

I went into these buildings on the Downtown tour (look at first few pics in "•••Living in Downtown Cincinnati••• in the city pics section) and the windows are very big, a lot of light. These will probably sell quicker once there is actually something better to look at. Michael, what is taking them so long on these?

I don't really see the need for retail there.  There's plenty of empty storefronts across the street.  Why would you want to double that number? 

 

 

  That's what I'm saying. I might be missing the point, but a lot of people seem to be obsessed with retail when their is a project around here.

  A 'Starbuck's' does sound nice, but I'm thinking " do I really want to open a shop here where there is not a lot of foot traffic right now, and there is also the possibility that I would get robbed once a month?" :shoot:

  I would have to agree with Haynes on that one. Not that anyone really cares.... :roll:

^so i take you are more in favor of the 'build a bunker' apt style???

 

i agree they may be taking a risk but applaud their use of a true urban form for these. besides it does not have to be starbucks or a shop, it could be small offices like doctors or lawyers or h&r block or a maybe a small deli or etc. think smaller scale!

'build a bunker' apt style???

 

  LOL, for some strange reason, I thought of 'Grease 2' when I read that.

 

 

it could be small offices like doctors or lawyers or h&r block or a maybe a small deli or etc. think smaller scale!

 

  That is exactly what I think would be a better fit here.

  I was refering more about retail:  corner store's , clothing stores, etc.  That is what I think of when people say retail. If others idea of retail includes offices and such, then my bad, guess I misunderstood

" do I really want to open a shop here where there is not a lot of foot traffic right now, and there is also the possibility that I would get robbed once a month?"

Would you rather have your front door and living room open onto Vine Street?  Apartments on the ground floor in the 1100 block of Vine is a very bad idea.  90% of OTR is commercial fist floor with residential above.  It made alot of sense in 1880, and it still makes alot of sense.  They are a buffer between private and public, and they add life to the street.  The storefronts across the street were not all vacant 2 years ago, and are still not completely vacant.  Two of them are in use for a construction office, and there is also a theater, which is taking over much of the rest of the block.  Not long ago there were two bars, a big and tall store, and a small shop.

...a big and tall store, and a small shop.

 

What about the medium people? :-P

Six weeks since my last photo above and the snail's pace continues!

 

 

 

:sleep:

FUGLY! :x

yikes...gateway indeed

Wow.  Must be working by the hour.

 

Why is everything in the city getting built in that same color of brick veneer?

because brick is the future!!!!!!!!

According to WCPO there was a Grand Opening ceremony. So they're done? I thought they looked pretty sharp. Anyone know of the 29 units, how many have been sold? There were quite few available on the MLS list. Probably too modern for the folks in OTR. There's a video of the news clip, but I can't get it to work. Their site isn't Mac-friendly.

I just check HOETING, Realtors on MLS and they have 18 units for sale.

Another unit went under contract last week.

I toured this building yesterday, and have a few thoughts.  They have sold four of the 33.  I think they are not selling because of the size.  Most of them are about 1,000 SF.  This is fine for a one bedroom apartment, but much larger units, with higher ceilings and historic character are available for the same price just a block or two north of this. 

 

I really feel that the designer, who is based in Miami, Florida, designed a condo building that would sell great in Miami, but does not fit OTR/Cincinnati.  The exterior has a lot of white, which just doesn't work.  It looks unfinished.

 

There are five spaces on street level that are called "live/work" spaces.  None of those have sold yet, and I am not sure what kind of person would want to live there, or have their office there.  In theory it sounds ok, but I just can't think of anyone I know wanting to either live there, or have their office right there on ground floor on Vine.  Perhaps Art Academy students?

 

The main entry to the apartments is in the middle of the block, and blends in with all the other live/work entries.  It would be more impressive to have a grand lobby like those condos at the American Building, just a block to the East have.  Again, I wonder if the designer new what the competition was, or even if they ever visited Cincinnati.

 

The units themselves are fine, they have in unit washer/dryer, individual furnace and water heater, private balconies, one garaged parking space, and storage bins.  I think they will sell, as the garage parking is a big selling point, and many people want a new building, not a rehab.