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Nice pictures - very impressive development.

 

But, it should be called the rounded alley.

It's on the corner andc calling it another name, would confuse consumers and that would detract from their brand

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Yeah, dean! sheesh.

^Dusting off my ball and shoes for the new CA.  Can't wait.

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Cleveland's Uptown development named a finalist for prestigious Rudy Bruner Award

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - The Rudy Bruner Foundation, based in Cambridge, Mass., announced that Cleveland's acclaimed Uptown development is one of five finalists for the 2015 Rudy Bruner Award for Urban Excellence.

 

The biennial award, established in 1987, has sought "to identify transformative urban places in America and to celebrate their impact on the economic, social, and physical fabric of our cities."

 

http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2015/02/clevelands_uptown_development.html#incart_river

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Dynomite Burgers expanding, with Uptown location opening in spring, adding sushi, indoor dining

 

"CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Restaurateur Zack Bruell will add a second Dynomite location to his portfolio of restaurants this spring. Bruell says he'll open Dynomite Burgers-Sushi in Cleveland's Uptown development.

 

It will open in a space adjacent to the entrance of the new Cleveland Institute of Art expansion in Uptown..."

 

http://www.cleveland.com/dining/index.ssf/2015/02/dynomite_burgers_expanding_wit.html

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Another phase? Horrible rendering artistry-wise, but great to see the street presence coming to this corner of the intersection...

 

http://www.passovgroup.com/listings/cleveland-euclid-115-block-redevelopment/

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Hmmmm, I was at the CPC meeting last year when Russell Berusch presented his plans for plans for that corner.  It was much more inspiring than that rendering - a tower matching the height of 115 Euclid.  But then I heard Case had an option on the property and they had their own idea of what should go there - never found out what that was.

That's pretty ridiculous that they are only proposing retail. All the major players are separately stating that the area needs more residents and that the retail is not thriving due to the lack of residential on Euclid.

That's pretty ridiculous that they are only proposing retail. All the major players are separately stating that the area needs more residents and that the retail is not thriving due to the lack of residential on Euclid.

 

Unless they are putting their money where their mouth is, it's just talk. 

 

It's one thing for random people to say "somebody ought to....",but when investors do,they should include the word "else" in there.

 

Which means it wouldn't be very profitable.

^ Considering the rate of Uptown's rents, and the continued growth of CWRU, I don't see any reason why apartments on that site wouldn't be profitable.

^ Considering the rate of Uptown's rents, and the continued growth of CWRU, I don't see any reason why apartments on that site wouldn't be profitable.

 

I hear you, but I don't see why none of the major players aren't proposing them themselves if that's the case.

My guess is they'd have to do structured parking, elevators, and more expensive mid/high rise style structural work to make apartments work in a small site like that.  All of which makes for very high rents.  Unless they make a very tall building, they won't make much money for all the trouble and expense.

My guess is they'd have to do structured parking, elevators, and more expensive mid/high rise style structural work to make apartments work in a small site like that.  All of which makes for very high rents.  Unless they make a very tall building, they won't make much money for all the trouble and expense.

 

Not sure how much of the overall cost they would account for, but since they show a second level in the rendering, doesn't it seem like they're already putting in elevators?

Even a five story apt building would be better and you don't need an elevator for 5-6 stories.

Even a five story apt building would be better and you don't need an elevator for 5-6 stories.

 

In this era of ADA, I suspect you might.

Even a five story apt building would be better and you don't need an elevator for 5-6 stories.

 

In this era of ADA, I suspect you might.

 

Yea, in new construction its a code requirement.

^That's really prohibitive for builders.  What does the code say, it is by stories or number of units per floor? How about for hotels or office bldgs? Also is this ADA or City of Cleveland code?

^That's really prohibitive for builders.  What does the code say, it is by stories or number of units per floor? How about for hotels or office bldgs? Also is this ADA or City of Cleveland code?

 

I'm also curious what code this is codified in.  I've seen quite a few new-build 4-5 story walk-ups in Chicago recently.

^"(2) This section does not require the installation of an elevator in a facility that is less than three stories or has less than 3000 square feet per story, except with respect to any facility that houses one or more of the following:"

 

From section 36.401

 

http://www.ada.gov/regs2010/2010ADAStandards/2010ADAstandards.htm#401d

Pretty sure the ADA doesn't apply to purely residential construction. Any requirement in an apartment building would be from state or local codes.

Pretty sure the ADA doesn't apply to purely residential construction. Any requirement in an apartment building would be from state or local codes.

 

 

yes the ada does not apply, but the fair housing act does:

 

The Fair Housing Act, as amended in 1988, prohibits housing discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, disability, familial status, and national origin. Its coverage includes private housing, housing that receives Federal financial assistance, and State and local government housing. It is unlawful to discriminate in any aspect of selling or renting housing or to deny a dwelling to a buyer or renter because of the disability of that individual, an individual associated with the buyer or renter, or an individual who intends to live in the residence. Other covered activities include, for example, financing, zoning practices, new construction design, and advertising.

 

The Fair Housing Act requires owners of housing facilities to make reasonable exceptions in their policies and operations to afford people with disabilities equal housing opportunities. For example, a landlord with a "no pets" policy may be required to grant an exception to this rule and allow an individual who is blind to keep a guide dog in the residence. The Fair Housing Act also requires landlords to allow tenants with disabilities to make reasonable access-related modifications to their private living space, as well as to common use spaces. (The landlord is not required to pay for the changes.) The Act further requires that new multifamily housing with four or more units be designed and built to allow access for persons with disabilities. This includes accessible common use areas, doors that are wide enough for wheelchairs, kitchens and bathrooms that allow a person using a wheelchair to maneuver, and other adaptable features within the units.

^Yeah, good point. 

 

No doubt the developer here has his reasons and his architects/builders know the law, so we should probably just wait to see an actual proposal come before design review before we fret too much.

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It never ceases to amaze me the transformation this area has undergone in the last 5-10 years....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Does anyone know when the Inchin Bamboo Garden restaurant is going to open?

Does anyone know when the Inchin Bamboo Garden restaurant is going to open?

 

That was supposed to open in January, it's still not open?? (Been a little while since Ive been to Uptown)

Not as of a month or two when I last checked and the location still not listed on their website

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Inchin's is now open

 

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^Very nice.  Does Inchin's have a significant presence on the Euclid side?

^Very nice.  Does Inchin's have a significant presence on the Euclid side?

 

Yeah, it's the same as the other restaurants in that strip. Not a great pic, but the front entrance is below:

 

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^Thanks... Looks nice.  Glad to see that formerly vacant section now active.  Uptown gets greater every day.

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Just stumbled across this picture and had to post it.

 

Do you guys remember this......

 

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Yes, I also remember that there was supposed to be a phase III.  I wonder if they're still working on it.

^I would kill for a roman burger right about now

 

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http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/09/29/flats-based-beerhead-nee-beer-cellars-primed-for-first-keg-tapping-this-week

 

Interesting quote from Beerhead owner in the Flats East Bank regarding Beer Cellars failure in Uptown:

 

“We put together a beautiful store there and we got a lot of high remarks from the customers we had, but the business wasn’t there so we decided to move on to another location,” he says. “There was an effort by the developer to try and create another entertainment district in Cleveland and the city wasn’t ready for it. It’s still kind of a lackluster area that doesn’t have the draw that other areas in Cleveland have.”

 

I've been to Uptown area multiple times for the Corner Alley, Dynomite Burgers and Sushi, and Mitchell's, and I wouldn't call the area lackluster. It seems to be a hit with Case students and area hospital workers. Instead, their decision to only serve beer without food was probably a larger factor in causing its demise. World of Beer across from Melt in Lakewood also lacked a food menu and failed.

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/09/29/flats-based-beerhead-nee-beer-cellars-primed-for-first-keg-tapping-this-week

 

Interesting quote from Beerhead owner in the Flats East Bank regarding Beer Cellars failure in Uptown:

 

“We put together a beautiful store there and we got a lot of high remarks from the customers we had, but the business wasn’t there so we decided to move on to another location,” he says. “There was an effort by the developer to try and create another entertainment district in Cleveland and the city wasn’t ready for it. It’s still kind of a lackluster area that doesn’t have the draw that other areas in Cleveland have.”

 

I've been to Uptown area multiple times for the Corner Alley, Dynomite Burgers and Sushi, and Mitchell's, and I wouldn't call the area lackluster. It seems to be a hit with Case students and area hospital workers. Instead, their decision to only serve beer without food was probably a larger factor in causing its demise. World of Beer across from Melt in Lakewood also lacked a food menu and failed.

 

They had no food at all?  Yeah, I wouldn't go to a place that had no food.  You have to have at least something.

I was walking through uptown today and noticed that Banyan Tree is opening up a shop in the space vacated by that boutique that closed shop earlier in the summer. This is the space next to Mitchell's and behind Chipotle.

 

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/09/29/flats-based-beerhead-nee-beer-cellars-primed-for-first-keg-tapping-this-week

 

Interesting quote from Beerhead owner in the Flats East Bank regarding Beer Cellars failure in Uptown:

 

“We put together a beautiful store there and we got a lot of high remarks from the customers we had, but the business wasn’t there so we decided to move on to another location,” he says. “There was an effort by the developer to try and create another entertainment district in Cleveland and the city wasn’t ready for it. It’s still kind of a lackluster area that doesn’t have the draw that other areas in Cleveland have.”

 

I've been to Uptown area multiple times for the Corner Alley, Dynomite Burgers and Sushi, and Mitchell's, and I wouldn't call the area lackluster. It seems to be a hit with Case students and area hospital workers. Instead, their decision to only serve beer without food was probably a larger factor in causing its demise. World of Beer across from Melt in Lakewood also lacked a food menu and failed.

 

Sounds like sour grapes whining to me.  I hope the 2nd time around is a charm for him down in the Flats, but why does Goodrich have to run down Uptown just because his joint couldn't make it there?  He should just chalk it up to bad planning and/or bad breaks and move on and be happy where he's at now... There's nothing "lackluster" about Uptown; it's a fantastic new area of the City with an even brighter future.  And yes, the thought of a beer joint with no food does not sound like a winning formula, even for a college-y area like University Circle.

They didn't have any food but you were allowed to bring in food from outside. Nice for the customers but probably not a great business plan as they didn't have any kind of minimum drink order to allow people to occupy a table.

I was walking through uptown today and noticed that Banyan Tree is opening up a shop in the space vacated by that boutique that closed shop earlier in the summer. This is the space next to Mitchell's and behind Chipotle.

 

 

Cross-posted from the Cleveland retail thread...

 

Banyan Tree opens its third location in Uptown http://t.co/JtZ6FtbH6l @shopbanyantree

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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permanent signs go up today

 

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Looks like Piñatas is going to get knocked to the ground (see what I did there?) and replaced with some density -- sandwiched between two multi-story buildings. Too bad the parking lot at the NE corner of Euclid and East 115th isn't being targeted first...

 

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Board of Zoning Appeals

OCTOBER 26, 2015

 

9:30 Ward 9

Calendar No. 15-215: 11611 Euclid Avenue Kevin Conwell

10 Notices

East 116th and Euclid LLC, owner, proposes to erect a 60 foot high, 38,704 square foot mixed use

building with 46 apartments and 961 square feet of retail space on the first floor on a 7,700 square

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foot lot in a C3 General Retail Business District. The owner appeals for relief from the strict

application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances:

1. Section 355.04(b) which states that in a “C” area district, maximum gross floor area cannot

exceed ½ the lot area. 3,850 square feet of floor are permitted and 38,704 square feet of

area are proposed.

2. Section 357.01(d) which states that a front yard setback is required when specifically shown

on Building Zone map. 10 foot front setback is required and 1’ to 0’ foot front setback is

proposed.

3. Section 357.09(b)(2)© which states that an interior side yard of not less than ¼ the height

of the main building is required (in this case is 15’) and a 10’-11” interior side yard is

proposed.

4. Section 357.08(b)(2) which states that a rear yard of not less than one-half the height of the

building (or in this case 30’) is required and a 1’ rear yard is proposed.

5. Sections 352.08 through 352.12 which state that an eight foot wide landscaped transition strip

with 75% year round opacity is required where property abuts Multi-Family Residential District

to the rear and no landscaped transition strip proposed.

6. Section 349.04(a)(f) which states that accessory off-street parking is required at the rate of

one space per dwelling unit, plus one space per 500 square feet of retail space. 48 accessory

off street parking spaces are required and none are provided. (Filed September 25, 2015)

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^Whoa, per the last part of the variance application, no parking will be provided?

At the UC pause at Constantino's on All Aboard Ohio's summer rail tour, Chris Ronayne said a number of developers are coming and seeking variances to provide less parking than is required. But ZERO is an eye-opener. BTW, I can't tell from East 116th and Euclid LLC's OSS filing as to who the developer/investor actually is. The agent is 1932 Service Corp. which lists to Walter Haverfield and is the agent for 1,442 companies. The company's incorporator , Geoffrey S. Goss, works at Walter Haverfield and focuses on real estate financing: http://www.walterhav.com/attorneys/geoffrey_s_goss.htm. He is the incorporator of these companies:

 

EUCLID 115 II LLC (this is the property at the NE corner of Euclid & East 115th that I referred to earlier)

UPTOWN DEVELOPMENT NORTH LLC

UPTOWN NORTH MEMBER LLC

PAYROLL TH,INC.

CENTURY CENTER MANAGEMENT LLC

GREENBERG REAL ESTATE BROKERAGE, LLC

OIP LORAIN APARTMENTS, LLC

FORMULA GROUP USA, LLC

RUSS-KAYE LLC

 

Goss co-wrote this interesting piece less than a year ago:

http://digital.propertiesmag.com/publication/?i=241621&p=42#{"page":42,"issue_id":241621}

 

EDIT: Considering that Goss is repping Euclid-115 II LLC and that site is owned by Russell Berusch of Berusch Development Partners LLC (which also owns the six-story apartment building next door), East 116th and Euclid LLC is probably going to be developed by Russell Berusch.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

An apt building of 46-units isn't a huge amount to go parking-less, esp if it is geared toward students who are less likely to own cars anyway -- particularly true in this extremely transit friendly area.  And given it's location across the street from CIA, and on edge of CWRU's campus, I'm guessing this will be for students.  And even if it weren't, there seems to be enough existing parking lots/spaces to absorb the cars of future tenants of this building ... at a cost, of course.

^ that's pretty close to my thoughts..... As soon as the parking deck aspects of new construction are never more than a third full, they will stop being built.

 

 

The Healthline and Redline are nearby... :)

 

This area does not need to apologize for not having parking.  It arguably sits at the best location of public transit outside of Downtown and right along a marked bike lane.

 

Portland, OR has been battling this dilemma a lot in recent years.  Much of the new residential construction is being built with zero parking spaces:

 

http://www.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2012/11/12/what-happens-when-you-build-housing-with-no-parking

 

http://usa.streetsblog.org/2012/08/21/portlands-parking-free-apartment-building-frenzy/

 

Here's an article for Boston, Seattle, and Portland:

 

http://usa.streetsblog.org/2013/12/10/real-estate-trend-parking-free-apartment-buildings/

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