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26 minutes ago, tykaps said:

I asked around today, but nobody had heard anything in quite a while about that project

 

I'm told the Finch project Infinium for that site is still alive but scaled back from what I had written about before....

 

http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/05/university-circles-trio-of-11-story.html

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9 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

I'm told the Finch project Infinium for that site is still alive but scaled back from what I had written about before....

 

http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/05/university-circles-trio-of-11-story.html

I wasn't crazy about the original concept. Did not like the proposed plaza on Euclid and I think the apartment tower should be oriented towards Euclid and away from the back of the property where it would over shadow the traditional style CWRU residence halls.  Finch seems to move incredibly slow.  Maybe they shouldn't announce flashy concepts when they don't intend to build for a while.  Still waiting for that small condo building they proposed on the Nord Family Greenway quite some time ago (at least I think it was Finch).

 

 

23 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

I wasn't crazy about the original concept. Did not like the proposed plaza on Euclid and I think the apartment tower should be oriented towards Euclid and away from the back of the property where it would over shadow the traditional style CWRU residence halls.  Finch seems to move incredibly slow.  Maybe they shouldn't announce flashy concepts when they don't intend to build for a while.  Still waiting for that small condo building they proposed on the Nord Family Greenway quite some time ago (at least I think it was Finch).

 

 

It was Finch. I've been waiting for news on it too, but not holding my breath anymore. 

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5 hours ago, tykaps said:

This new building's street presence is awesome. It really completes uptown and ties it all together.

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Of course, happy to have the building, but why are the windows so few/small?  Looks dark and unfriendly.

 

 

Edited by Pugu

Pugu, I was thinking the exact same thing.  There should be big windows/lots of glass on that corner, but this looks depressing.  

6 minutes ago, willyboy said:

Pugu, I was thinking the exact same thing.  There should be big windows/lots of glass on that corner, but this looks depressing.  

Is this building suppose to mimic the other buildings in the uptown development?  I cannot recall.  If yes. then the windows are similar to those in the other buildings, as you can see across the street.

For anyone who forgets what this building is going to look like...I’m sure we all just tried to forget. 
 

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25 minutes ago, JSC216 said:

For anyone who forgets what this building is going to look like...I’m sure we all just tried to forget. 
 

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ugh

If the would only at least matched the height of the bldg. next door....

Would this have looked better?

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Was that one floor of dormitory?  If so, unheard of!

Yes, if it was 2-3 stories taller.

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2 hours ago, willyboy said:

Pugu, I was thinking the exact same thing.  There should be big windows/lots of glass on that corner, but this looks depressing.  

 

The design quality in Uptown has been in a steep nosedive since the original apartment buildings. This thing, and the one that replaced the Mexican restaurant are craptacular dreck. 

7 minutes ago, StapHanger said:

 

The design quality in Uptown has been in a steep nosedive since the original apartment buildings. This thing, and the one that replaced the Mexican restaurant are craptacular dreck. 

Agree 100%.  Centrum doesn't do much for me either, especially given the original concept.

2 hours ago, skiwest said:

Would this have looked better?

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Their original plan has always confused me about how anyone thought that looked good.

1 minute ago, tykaps said:

Their original plan has always confused me about how anyone thought that looked good.

 

Aside from it being a rendering that I could draw, it does have a lot more glass. ✍️

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On 1/28/2020 at 6:28 PM, tykaps said:

This new building's street presence is awesome. It really completes uptown and ties it all together.

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These will be apartments, correct?   Not CIA dormitories?

^Per that link---they are listing prices---whether 1,2,3,4 BR ---PER PERSON.  Is this some kind of dormitory set up?  If I rent an apt---i should be able to put as many people as I want in it up to any restrictions in the lease. I've never paid PER PERSON before.

7 hours ago, Pugu said:

^Per that link---they are listing prices---whether 1,2,3,4 BR ---PER PERSON.  Is this some kind of dormitory set up?  If I rent an apt---i should be able to put as many people as I want in it up to any restrictions in the lease. I've never paid PER PERSON before.

These are off-campus student housing apartments essentially. Similar to my apartment I had at Kent State University they pay rent per room, so a 4 bedroom at $1,000 per month is $4,000 per apartment. It's crazy. 

^Borders on a scam. I guess its okay if you WANT roommates but don't know anyone to room with---sounds no different though than living in official campus housing.

According to their website www.euclid3.com

  • They're leasing out the bedrooms instead of whole apartments
  • You're only liable for your bedroom on the lease
  • It includes furniture for the common rooms.
  • Leases expire in July but you can start them whenever if there are rooms available

It's basically privately owned dorms. I think the Langston by CSU does something similar. It's pricey when you total it up, but it's still a deal compared to living in a dorm at most universities, but only because room and board is typically way overpriced to begin with. Room and board at Case is 15k a year according to the first thing I saw on Google. Even back in 2010 at OSU my room and board was 9 or 10 thousand for the year. With these you get your own bedroom, so I could see students happily opting for this over dorms.

Edit: But yeah, I totally agree it's an absolute cash grab.

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And if it's as bad a deal as some on here seem to think, it'll fail or they'll need to lower prices.  Market forces tend to work these things out.

I did this back in college in Florida in the late 90’s. $400 got me a bedroom in a 4 bed 2 bath apartment. Huge living room and kitchen. Utilities included. I thought it was great. 

It's already proving to be somewhat successful. I teach in UC and am told by students that the building next door and the one that replaced Mi Pueblo are leased by this model and are full. Students these days eat this up. Just wish the building was 2-4 stories taller...

It sounds like they fulfill an unmet housing need, since CWRU enrollments are up, there's a campus-housing shortage, and upper-classmen are encouraged to seek off-campus housing.

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You love to see it!

 

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33 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

Great to see.  Question.  Does anybody know why Simply Greek left uptown or did not make it.

They saw cheaper rent in Solon and moved there. The restaurant was successful, but they also thought that they could do better by moving away from Uptown's high rent demands.

Windows are in. The building has an impressive presence to it. Hopefully the final product is better than the rendering but I'm in love with the feel it has from the street.

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As a result of the Constantinos closure, I've heard there will now be a shuttle that will take people to the Dave's in Cedar-Fairmount.

And right across from ex-Constantinos, a progress update:

 

Edited by tykaps

That is god awful architecture!

Too bad about Constantinos though if you look it up the reviews for this location are not great. Hopefully something else will go in that is better run. By the way... has anyone ever looked up the reviews for the Uptown apartments ?? Yeesh... makes me question MRN 

2 hours ago, newyorker said:

That is god awful architecture!

I was hoping it would start looking better as it came along but that doesn't seem to be the case.

There's already a shuttle that will take people from directly from UC to the Dave's at East 60th- it's called the Health Line!

Per the architecture lol

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Then again, if they're going for a glorified dorm, they've got it. Reminds me of some of the newer builds at my Alma mater, similar concept too - individual bedrooms w/shared suites.

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Ah, University Circle, a beautiful campus setting in a big city, but instead of good pedestrian/bike routes and reliable transit, we have 19 separate shuttle fleets.

10 minutes ago, StapHanger said:

Ah, University Circle, a beautiful campus setting in a big city, but instead of good pedestrian/bike routes and reliable transit, we have 19 separate shuttle fleets.

Doesn’t it have reliable transit and bike routes?

25 minutes ago, bumsquare said:

Doesn’t it have reliable transit and bike routes?

 

Not if you're trying to get from Uptown to the C-F Dave's. I don't think you could make the trip by bus without at least one connection. It's probably about as fast to walk. Biking infrastructure for the trip is not awful, but there's a pretty big hill...

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24 minutes ago, LlamaLawyer said:

 

Not if you're trying to get from Uptown to the C-F Dave's. I don't think you could make the trip by bus without at least one connection. It's probably about as fast to walk. Biking infrastructure for the trip is not awful, but there's a pretty big hill...

If people weren't terrified of the healthline you've got Aldi, Daves, Gallucci's, etc. right down the way, same with the bike lane down Euclid, granted it's not the most inviting lane but it's there.

4 minutes ago, GISguy said:

If people weren't terrified of the healthline you've got Aldi, Daves, Gallucci's, etc. right down the way, same with the bike lane down Euclid, granted it's not the most inviting lane but it's there.

They're great options, but I'm always surprised by the number of students who don't know Aldi, Dave's, or Gallucci's even exist. For a school that gives out free transit passes to everyone, case doesn't do a good job teaching people about things they can go to.

5 minutes ago, GISguy said:

If people weren't terrified of the healthline you've got Aldi, Daves, Gallucci's, etc. right down the way, same with the bike lane down Euclid, granted it's not the most inviting lane but it's there.

 

I sure hope something replaces Constantino's soon, because it's pretty crazy to think in an area with the affluent population of University Circle that the Euclid Aldi, Gust Gallucci's, and Chester Dave's are the top Grocery shopping options. Dave's is 2.5 miles away. Gust Gallucci's is great for specialty items but is a poor substitute for a one-stop grocery store like Constantino's. The Euclid Aldi, let's say, does not currently offer quite the same shopping experience as Constantino's did.

5 hours ago, tykaps said:

They're great options, but I'm always surprised by the number of students who don't know Aldi, Dave's, or Gallucci's even exist. For a school that gives out free transit passes to everyone, case doesn't do a good job teaching people about things they can go to.

It's less about the institutions not teaching about resources and more about the complacent culture of students.

5 hours ago, LlamaLawyer said:

 

Not if you're trying to get from Uptown to the C-F Dave's. I don't think you could make the trip by bus without at least one connection. It's probably about as fast to walk. Biking infrastructure for the trip is not awful, but there's a pretty big hill...

My wife, who is from Pittsburgh would roll her eyes to a comment calling that a big hill...

I would love to see Trader Joe's take over that space

 

8 hours ago, LlamaLawyer said:

 

Not if you're trying to get from Uptown to the C-F Dave's. I don't think you could make the trip by bus without at least one connection. It's probably about as fast to walk. Biking infrastructure for the trip is not awful, but there's a pretty big hill...

I am in CF area and whenever I am coming back on the Healthline I almost always walk from Euclid and Stokes. Sometimes I would take a scooter if available. but it takes the same time if not longer to take the bus than walking and walking is much more enjoyable, even with cedar hill.

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2 hours ago, skiwest said:


For those of you avoiding cle dot com:

 

“CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland’s a plum, right? Now the city will welcome its own location of Plum Market, a Detroit-based natural grocery store.

 

“The brand is slated to open an Uptown Cleveland grocery store at the former location of Constantino’s Market, 11473 Euclid Avenue.

 

“The grocer has teamed up with Bon Appétit Management Company for its operations and worked with its leaseholder, Case Western Reserve University, for the new spot. It is expected to open in January 2021, according to a press release.”


https://www.plummarket.com/find-your-store/

 

 

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When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

Plum Market is pretty expensive, but a damn good grocery store. I imagine they'll have an attached coffee shop (i.e. Intellegentsia) and wine bar inside.

 

...and good point about cleveland.com. I've completely stopped going to the site, perhaps a few weeks after comments were shut down. It just isn't that interesting.

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