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Since when is this called "college town?"

 

All kidding aside, I'm glad this is in ink.  Two proven local developers, plus all the institutional partners involved in this project should make it happen!

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This will include the infamous "Beach" at Ford and Euclid, right?

yep. the beach and the triangle.

and hessler residents get out their "petition-signing-pens"

 

or PSPs for short.

This will include the infamous "Beach" at Ford and Euclid, right?

 

I haven't lived in Cleveland for 18 years, so sorry to ask a dumb/or repeated question, but I'm trying to get my bearings.  This is the area at the corner of Mayfield and Euclid?

 

What is the "beach"?

This will include the infamous "Beach" at Ford and Euclid, right?

 

I haven't lived in Cleveland for 18 years, so sorry to ask a dumb/or repeated question, but I'm trying to get my bearings.  This is the area at the corner of Mayfield and Euclid?

 

What is the "beach"?

 

The Triangle sits at the SE corner of Mayfield an Euclid.  The new MOCA Cleveland bldg is going into that site (although I think they're keeping the apt towers).  This project w/MRN & Zaremba stretches east from there along Euclid toward (to?) the Cleveland Inst of Art bldg.  It covers roughly the same stretch on the North side of the street, too.  The "beach" is the nickname for all the parking lots that line the north side of Euclid.  If I remember right the new college bookstore (run by Barnes & Noble) is planned for the NE corner of Ford & Euclid (if you go straight on Mayfield it turns into Ford).

So Barnes and Noble is commited to this project?

B&N was once talked about - don't know if they're in now or if they ever were, just that they were rumored or hoepd for.

B&N was once talked about - don't know if they're in now or if they ever were, just that they were rumored or hoepd for.

 

I don't have up to the minute information, but I had always heard that B&N had signed on to do a two-story bookstore at the the corner of Euclid & Ford.

This is exciting news.

 

 

Developers, Case sign memo for 'college town'

Tuesday, December 12, 2006

Tom Breckenridge

Plain Dealer Reporter

Two developers making their mark in Cleveland's core are ready to tackle the much-anticipated "college town" development in University Circle.

 

Developers Nathan Zaremba and MRN Ltd., in a joint venture, have signed a letter of intent with Case Western Reserve University to pursue the $120 million mix of arts, retail and dwellings.

 

It's planned for about eight acres north and south of Euclid Avenue, east of the Ford Drive-Mayfield Road intersection.

 

More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com

Developers, Case sign memo for 'college town'

Tuesday, December 12, 2006

Tom Breckenridge

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

Two developers making their mark in Cleveland's core are ready to tackle the much-anticipated "college town" development in University Circle.

 

Developers Nathan Zaremba and MRN Ltd., in a joint venture, have signed a letter of intent with Case Western Reserve University to pursue the $120 million mix of arts, retail and dwellings.

 

It's planned for about eight acres north and south of Euclid Avenue, east of the Ford Drive-Mayfield Road intersection.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/plaindealer/stories/index.ssf?/base/isedu/1165924555110800.xml&coll=2

"We're ready to go," said John Wheeler, Case's vice president for Cleveland and regional affairs. "This is the first step in a long process, but we're optimistic."

 

Well, I don't know about "first step," but it's still on the early end of things.  It's progress, which we haven't seen in some time, but we're still just back to where we were several months ago when the first "new" development team was assembled (and subsequently fell apart). 

 

I'm interested to see what they're thinking of for a timeline.  I'm under the impression that the earliest conceivable groundbreaking is still more than 12 months away...

I wonder about the timeline to. I would prefer sooner, but twelve months is fine for me just as long as the project gets complete.

MRN has already done a bunch of work for this project.  I'm not sure how much of it will be kept with Zaremba coming in, but they shouldn't have to start all over with the market analysis and all that...  hopefully they're on to financing the thing, securing tenants and getting architectural and construction documents ready!

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Sounds exciting.  The museum, along with the Triangle project, in total, will finally pull the great U. Circle together as a retail and housing area bonding with the already world-class institutions.  Question:

 

I'm not quite sure where "lot 45" is and how these buildings will be situated.  Also, am I to understand they want to build a condo tower on East Blvd on top of a new CIA building at the current location?  How will that work? anyone got a map?  

 

lot 45 is the huge surface lot that is located between the Triangle apartment buildings and the train tracks.

 

I've heard that Zaremba and MRN have pulled in some California designer to work on their plans for the Triangle. This all is very interesting.

Despite these being sincere plans with true momentum, all of this is so preliminary that I don't believe there are any renderings or site plans out there, aside from those being worked on by Zaremba & MRN for the Triangle.  I haven't seen anything from CIA or MOCA.  Go ahead an propose some, though!  There will certainly be public meetings to discuss these large projects and it would help to have thought through the process yourself before attending.

 

All in all, these projects are very exciting and the notable architects will only serve to make the projects more appealing to a broader audience and not just shoppers, residents and students.

 

The East Boulevard CIA site is very interesting to think about because of its proximity to CMA and its neighbors all being academic buildings under 5 stories.  A high-rise condo tower won't be an obvious construct for the site, but could be done well if mixed with buildings that fill out the rest of the site.  That's my take on it for now, anyway...

so does anyone have any updates on the Ford/Euclid (the beach?) property?

Its part of the Triangle project. From what I hear/deduce, its moving along. 

You heard correctly...there should be some community meetings in the near future. 

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Regarding the redev of the Triangle at Ford & Euclid, there are some fun drawings to look at on the Terra-Mark website.  BTW, Terra-Mark was recently announced as leading the retail study commissioned by Dwntwn Clv Alliance, Gateway, & Playhouse Square for lower Euclid.

 

http://www.terremarkpartners.com/

Regarding the redev of the Triangle at Ford & Euclid, there are some fun drawings to look at on the Terra-Mark website.  BTW, Terra-Mark was recently announced as leading the retail study commissioned by Dwntwn Clv Alliance, Gateway, & Playhouse Square for lower Euclid.

 

http://www.terremarkpartners.com/

 

The siteplan looks excellent this will definitely do much to keep people around the area after school and work.

wow i really hope that stuff gets built, it would be amazing density and would keep people around in the evenings.

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Regarding the redev of the Triangle at Ford & Euclid, there are some fun drawings to look at on the Terra-Mark website.  BTW, Terra-Mark was recently announced as leading the retail study commissioned by Dwntwn Clv Alliance, Gateway, & Playhouse Square for lower Euclid.

 

http://www.terremarkpartners.com/

 

Am I crazy or were the sketeches removed from the web site?  I wonder if Terremark caught flak for posting something so tentative.  Anyone have any sense how these designs really are progressing?

Charter One expands 'Uptown Initiative'

By SHAWN A. TURNER

11:37 am, April 25, 2007

 

Charter One Bank today announced it was adding new programs to its three-year, $150 million “Uptown Initiative” meant to spur development in the neighborhoods around University Circle.

 

More at:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20070425/FREE/70425004

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Are they still pushing "Uptown"?

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www.uptowncleveland.com

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From Crain's: 

 

 

Cleve Foundation issues $13.5M in grants

By SHANNON MORTLAND

2:34 pm, September 21, 2007

 

The Cleveland Foundation today announced it has awarded $13.5 million in grants to local organizations, with the largest grant of $1.5 million given to the Musical Arts Association.

 

The association will use $1 million to help the Cleveland Orchestra implement its strategic plan. The remaining $500,000 will help finance the orchestra’s education and community outreach programs in 2008.

 

More at:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20070921/FREE/70921019/1048/newsletter01

University Circle developers announce a high quality short list of architects for the Triangle

Posted by Plain Dealer Architecture Critic Steven Litt September 21, 2007 11:12AM

Categories: Architecture

 

 

The developers of the much-awaited Triangle project in Cleveland's University Circle have always said they wanted to aim high architecturally. Now, they're backing up words with action.

 

Developer Nathan Zaremba, speaking for himself and his partners, Richard and Ari Maron, announced a shortlist of six candidates, one local and five national, including highly respected firms such as Office dA of Boston and Stanley Saitowitz / Natoma Architects of San Francisco.

 

More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com

And finally a blogger on cleveland.com gets it:

 

 

I recognize several internationally-noted and forward thinking design operations within this short list. This corner - a new intersection of contemporary art and culture in this City deserves a high-reaching standard for the mixed-use development, complementing goals of the CIA and MOCA expansions.

 

With that said, I find it most unfortunate (and frankly, worrisome) to see City Architecture on the shortlist. While I am generally very supportive of providing local architects an opportunity for top notch commissions, I can't say that I find City Architecture's portfolio of work matching the quality of most other shortlisted firms or indicative of work on the cusp of a 'break-through' contemporary design commission.

 

I am of the personal opinion that community leaders, architecture advocates, planning experts, and artists should demand the very best (in aesthetics, functionality, permanence) for the Triangle development - and I am concerned that City Architecture would not deliver.

 

University Circle developers announce a high quality short list of architects for the Triangle

 

Oh man is this good news.  Can't wait to research the portfolios of these guys.  I really hope they do pick a couple of these firms so there's some variety- that site is huge!

Then again, it could be an opportunity for City Architecture to directly work with more groundbreaking firms (since they're considering utilizing multiple firms), and thus start producing less conservative designs. I have to imagine at the price point they're going with, not every single buyer would want something ultra-modern.

"not every single buyer would want something ultra-modern."

 

There's plenty on conservative residential options throughout the city.  Don't screw this one up with fake Doric columns and crown molding next to a peak of contemporary architecture.

MVRDV, FOA, throw in officeDA for the mixed use, and that's a hell of a lineup on one block.

^That's kind of how I feel.  If somone wants something traditional, they can buy a condo at the Moreland Courts or a house in Cleveland Heights.  Or maybe a Park Lane Villa condo in a few years...  I know, not really comperable, but this is a pretty unique opportunity to build some cool stuff.

 

In any case, this has to be build in at least a few phases, no?  I'm sure they'll play with the designs as they roll them out.

Cool. I hope that we get to hear some news soon about this development. It would really solidify the area.

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Yes I did.  I just started a new thread for the Uptown - University Arts & Retail District in University Circle.  Why?  Because the developers finally signed the development agreement and picked their architects:

 

Architects chosen for Triangle development

Posted by Plain Dealer Architecture Critic Steven Litt October 05, 2007 11:43AM

Categories: Architecture

 

It's official: Developers for the new Triangle project in Cleveland's University Circle neighborhood are the first in the city's history to hire star-quality architects to design a major urban residential project.

 

Developer Nathan Zaremba announced today that he and his partners, Rick and Ari Maron, have hired Saitowitz Natoma Architects of San Francisco and Office dA of Boston to design multistory, mixed-use apartment and retail buildings at the Triangle.

 

More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com

^ That's great news. I can't wait to see the plan. Am I correct in my understanding that Zaremba and Maron are only working on the Triangle piece? How are plans proceeding on the north side of Euclid? Does UCI own that parcel or have development rights there? I can't remember the details for how quickly planning was going on for that parcel, other than recalling that the Hessler folks were (as always) not supportive of the idea of development there.

As confusing as the multiple names for this project have been over the years, from College Town to UARD to Uptown to the Triangle, this article doesn't make anything much clearer.  I think Litt may be confusing people here by calling it the Triangle, because that is specifically the CWRU-owned part of the project south of Euclid and east of Mayfield.  North of Euclid and east of Ford "the Beach" is UCI-owned property that is also part of the development.

 

It's also interesting to note that this is not the first time in the history of the project that "starchitects" have been involved in planning and designing the site.  In the 1970s, Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (Burj Dubai, Canary Wharf, Lever House, and on...), and Fred Toguchi Associates (prolific local firm) did a plan for the site which was not far from what is planned for the site today. 

 

In any case, the entire Uptown area is shaping up to be quite a compendium of big projects.  There will be no shortage of architectural ego in this little corner of the city... let's hope they can play nice!

Uptown :|

 

EDIT: I am very exited about this development, don't get me wrong.  But, uptown seems uninspired and tired.  I get that they are trying to make it the equivalent of downtown, but why not compare public square to university circle

 

If you are in the middle of downtown and want to go to the center of culture in Cleveland, take the line from the square, past the quadrangle, and once you hit the triangle, you are in the middle of the circle.  It could not be any clearer.  :)

Thank God City Architecture is religated to being only the local architect.  This little triangle is going to be so bad ass.

Very nice.

Even though I'm in the field, I'm sooooo glad that we're branching out to firms throughout the world and U.S!!!

 

I love Cleveland but the local architecture seen is quite uninspiring to say the very least.  From firm websites to built work...We need to be enlightened!

Punch,

 

Back in the 20s, they used to refer to the UC area as Uptown.

Thanks, after checking out their websites, I am really excited to see what Saitowitz comes up with.  They seem to have some idea of how to match cutting edge with urban.  Not so much Office dA, though.

Top architects to design Triangle project in University Circle

Sunday, October 07, 2007

ARCHITECTURE

 

It's official: Developers for the new Triangle project in Cleveland's University Circle neighborhood are the first in the city's history to hire star-quality architects to design a major urban residential project.

 

Developer Nathan Zaremba announced Friday that he and his partners, Rick and Ari Maron, have tapped Saitowitz Natoma Architects of San Francisco and Office dA of Boston to design multistory, mixed-use apartment and retail buildings at the Triangle.

 

"We're excited about it," Zaremba said. "But the thing that's more interesting to me is how excited both the design firms are. It's not often firms of this ilk get a chance to craft a neighborhood. This is a very exciting opportunity for them and for us."

 

More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com

I'm really excited about this project and the fact that it's moving forward. The main reason that I'm excited about it is because I think this, along with the WHD project, has the potential to transform areas of the city into truly upscale neighborhoods. I'd like to compare University Circle to Uptown Manhattan in a way, but whether or not it will happen according to how I'm hoping it will happen remains to be seen. I'm excited about the possibilities here, though.

I'm really excited about this project and the fact that it's moving forward. The main reason that I'm excited about it is because I think this, along with the WHD project, has the potential to transform areas of the city into truly upscale neighborhoods. I'd like to compare University Circle to Uptown Manhattan in a way, but whether or not it will happen according to how I'm hoping it will happen remains to be seen. I'm excited about the possibilities here, though.

 

It’s a double edged sword.

 

Hough, Upper Wade Park and Forest Hills, like Harlem's "Strivers Row, Marcus Garvey Park & Sugar Hill" , have areas that never fell on hard times - even though people think the entire area is bad. The street my dad grew up in Forest Hills, on still has those cool red brick roads and amazing stately city homes and in addition there are mansions that have been redeveloped on Hough in the upper 70s/Lower 80s.

 

The delicate situation - like Harlem - is people returning to the city, and trying to change the makeup of the neighborhood instead of embracing and strengthening the thing(s) that attracted you to the neighborhood.

 

My uncle who is a diehard Glenville resident is worried that "new" people moving to the area will try to make changes to the area, NOW, but wonders where they were 5/10/15/20 years ago when residents of the area fought to make sure that the violence, crime, etc. did not spread north of East Blvd./MLK/Rockefeller Park.  It's like night and day when you cross EB.  I understand that for years they have been trying to get a developer to go into the area near 82/superior and build a Batter Park like development with would connect to the Glenville lakefront park. 

 

My mothers brothers (who rarely leave the "barrio" and do not venture outside of Cleveland for anything - they wont even visit his my grandparents in Cleveland Heights) says the same thing about Clark/Lorain area.  Now that Ohio City has become so hot, and affordable housing has spread south and west, why should they be forced to change when many Latino’s moved to the area in the late 60s'/early 70's (when my mothers family moved to Cleveland) and brought development and new families to the area when whites were leaving.  If my memory serves me, correct the area was Italian, Irish when they moved there.  Now that Latinos are the majority in the area and have opened up Latino businesses, have a Latino representative on city council they fear that the “SoLo” moniker was thought up by realtors & developers to make people looking to move into Ohio City or Tremont feel “safe” without coming right out and saying it.  Many in the area want to turn the neighborhood into a magnet for more businesses, especially Latino, similar to what has taken place in the Chinatown/Far East section of Sterling-Payne.  They already have the added, plus of Indians players frequenting the area, and want to capitalize on that.

 

The Multimillion-dollar question is how to move forward while embracing what is currently in place?

Thanks, after checking out their websites, I am really excited to see what Saitowitz comes up with.  They seem to have some idea of how to match cutting edge with urban.  Not so much Office dA, though.

 

Couldn't disagree more on your Office dA thoughts, but that's alright X.

Check out the Office dA designed "MacCallen Building" from Boston, MA.  They get residential.

All three firms picked (dA, Saitowitz and City Arch) are capable of some world class stuff. Wait and see.

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