Looking at old maps it appears there was nothing there even back to 1912. In 1898 there was a house there set back with the property as wide as it is today and extending all the way back to Bellflower. That was before Hessler Street even existed.

 

Well that makes my righteously indignant letter to the editor for The Observer at Case Western far less historically accurate. Oops.

 

Was the other side of the street, around the current Triangle apartments where the awful strip mall-thing used to be empty land before that as well?

 

*Goes back to lurking*

Looking at old maps it appears there was nothing there even back to 1912. In 1898 there was a house there set back with the property as wide as it is today and extending all the way back to Bellflower. That was before Hessler Street even existed.

 

Well that makes my righteously indignant letter to the editor for The Observer at Case Western far less historically accurate. Oops.

 

Was the other side of the street, around the current Triangle apartments where the awful strip mall-thing used to be empty land before that as well?

 

*Goes back to lurking*

 

Check out: http://www.historicaerials.com/

 

Definitely not open land.  Most of the houses were there until about 1970.

 

EDIT: And if you really want to blow your mind, look at all the houses/mansions knocked down to build the CWRU dorms on Northside.

Looking at old maps it appears there was nothing there even back to 1912. In 1898 there was a house there set back with the property as wide as it is today and extending all the way back to Bellflower. That was before Hessler Street even existed.

 

Well that makes my righteously indignant letter to the editor for The Observer at Case Western far less historically accurate. Oops.

 

Was the other side of the street, around the current Triangle apartments where the awful strip mall-thing used to be empty land before that as well?

 

*Goes back to lurking*

 

OK did some Googling...is it related to this?

 

http://www.thecwruobserver.com/you-dont-know-what-youve-got-til-its-gone/

I got to University Circle in 1977. The only building I remember on that stretch on the north side of Euclid was a bar called The Brick Cottage, commonly referred to as "The Brick"

Was the other side of the street, around the current Triangle apartments where the awful strip mall-thing used to be empty land before that as well?

 

Not sure what was down that far, but there was a SOHIO gas station right on the corner where MOCA is now. There's a picture of it at clevelandmemory.org but I can't find it.

Another addition for Uptown? Some backward migration here -- expansion from Beachwood to Uptown Cleveland:

 

Looking at old maps it appears there was nothing there even back to 1912. In 1898 there was a house there set back with the property as wide as it is today and extending all the way back to Bellflower. That was before Hessler Street even existed.

 

Well that makes my righteously indignant letter to the editor for The Observer at Case Western far less historically accurate. Oops.

 

Was the other side of the street, around the current Triangle apartments where the awful strip mall-thing used to be empty land before that as well?

 

*Goes back to lurking*

 

OK did some Googling...is it related to this?

 

http://www.thecwruobserver.com/you-dont-know-what-youve-got-til-its-gone/

 

It is indeed. My letter should be in this week's issue, according to the editor.

 

I am aware of all the houses and mansions CWRU tore down to build its dorms, and its horrifically depressing. This is getting off-topic though, and I don't want to derail this thread.

^ Good article to have published for all the student body to see:

 

http://www.thecwruobserver.com/letter-to-the-editor-8/

Thank you Zak!

Excellent letter, Zak.  I love the musical rebuttal to that editorial's own song reference.

 

I've long since stopped being amazed how entitled lots of people feel about parking, so the reaction to losing "the beach" spaces is no surprise.  There will definitely be some growing pains for the commuters and day trippers accustomed to finding cheap/free parking exactly where they want it to be.  Unavoidable collateral damage.

If there is a God this thread will not turn into a three page discussion of the parking situation in University Circle and how somebody might actually have to walk three blocks to get to their destination. :cry:

^I'm not so sure about God, but there is a Mod. 

 

This thread will not become a three page discussion on parking.

It's comforting to know that savvy students like Zak, understand and appreciate the greatness and game-changing nature of Uptown.  Fact is, Uptown should be a major recruiting tool for Case, which is a great yet under appreciated national university (it won't hurt CIA or CIM either).  Uptown is a grand opportunity for Cleveland generally to increase it's appreciation of quality urban living.

Heh, thanks for all the compliments. :3

 

Now, back to actual talk on construction and such. >_>

Had a late lunch at Panera the other day -- on an afternoon when it was actually NOT RAINING.  The foot and auto traffic was tremendous and parking was scarce -- it was the first time I saw a valet there.

 

btw, it looks like the Phase II skeleton has reached its full height.  I was surprised at how, even with just the skeleton, the structure is pretty overpowering at street level, which is a good thing... as they say: it's all good!

 

Video board going up--

:clap: :clap: :clap:

 

Untitled by crb618, on Flickr

Just an update-- The most eastern edge of the uptown phase 1- (Along the south side of Euclid, in front of Accent)- has the windows uncovered and there is a building permit for "BEER MARKET" in the window.

 

Also, (Moreso for the streetscape thread) there is a big new banner on the side of the curved building (above charter one/Starbucks) that reads "Welcome to the UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD"

http://www.indian-architects.com/en/projects/project-review-detail/38880_uptown

 

Uptown

Ohio is home to enough starchitect-designed buildings—by the likes of Coop Himmelb(l)au, Frank Gehry, Zaha Hadid, and SANAA—to make the state a must on any archi-tourist's radar. But cultural icons alone, like Farshid Moussavi's MOCA Cleveland, do not a city make. Neighborhoods are built on housing, retail, and public space, and MRN's Uptown development next to MOCA is an excellent example of how these core pieces can work alongside cultural anchors. Architect Stanley Saitowitz answered some questions about Uptown, which recently saw the completion of its first phase.

- See more at: http://www.indian-architects.com/en/projects/project-review-detail/38880_uptown#sthash.WUx80oWS.dpuf

Blurb from Key Bank:  http://www.rejournals.com/2013/07/11/keybank-tax-credits-help-rejuvenate-clevelands-university-circle-neighborhood/

It's looking great! I can't wait to go check it out next time I have an extended period in Cleveland. Chances are it'll be quite a bit more finished by then.

You can hear more from Ari Maron about current and future phases of Uptown at "TOD On Tap" on Aug 8 http://allaboardohio.org/2013/07/03/join-us-aug-8-for-our-tod-on-tap-tour/

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2013/08022013/index.php

 

City Planning Commission

Agenda for August 2, 2013

 

EUCLID CORRIDOR DESIGN REVIEW

 

2. EC2012-054 – Uptown Phase II Site Improvements

Project Location: Euclid Avenue and Ford Drive

Project Representative: Josh Herman, MRN

 

 

 

I learned a few things today on Uptown:

 

Phase 1 is commanding the highest rent in the city at over $1.80/sf

There is a 250 person wait list for the Ph 1 apartments (damn!)

Phase 1 had eleven layers of financing.

Phase 2 has four layers of financing. 

It was more cost effective to go with steel frame construction instead of post-tension concrete for Ph. 2.

The Alley patio installations have started and next summer flowers will be installed similar to E. 4th.

It sounds like the Corner Alley Uptown will be one badass bowling alley.

Nothing happening yet with Phase 3 but MRN is still working on it.

We learned those things last week at TOD On Tap! ;) Ari Maron also noted that half of the financing for rehabbing buildings can come from tax credits and the rest from banks. Those are relatively "easy" compared to the many layers of financing for new construction. We heard similar stories from Peter Rubin at Coral Co. regarding Intesa and from Harley Cohen regarding Flats East Bank -- both of which are new construction and extremely difficult to finance in a no-growth city where rents are still far less than other markets (Which ones? The ones Forest City is investing in!). The only "hooks" local developers can use to justify financing for private lenders is civic pride (as measured by sacrifices of time/effort/money developers are willing to make for projects that otherwise aren't worth them) and the shift from suburban to urban living sought by young professionals and empty-nesters.

That's not fair..you heard it first.  Nice summary though.

Your summary was right on the money too. That's exactly how Ari described his project.

Thanks KJP and Firenze98 for the reports!

Even though local Fox News anchors haven't heard of it...it does exist!

 

http://fox8.com/2013/08/20/kenny-kicks-it-uptown/

Sad that they find it laughable. How are you news anchors, yet know nothing about big projects going on in the city? I think I would have liked seeing a model apt, more than a lived in one with what looked like a sheet serving as curtains. Ijs

Sad that they find it laughable. How are you news anchors, yet know nothing about big projects going on in the city? I think I would have liked seeing a model apt, more than a lived in one with what looked like a sheet serving as curtains. Ijs

 

From their reaction I assume the drive to the studio parking lot and leave to head back the suburbs at the end of the day. That's especially embarrassing for Wayne, a know figure in Cleveland.

 

Cue Charles Barkley:

 

Not sure if this was ever posted:

 

http://www.goodmanrealestate.com/PropertyPdf/Uptown%20Phase%20II%20Brochure%204pg.pdf

 

And as we know:

 

http://www.rejournals.com/2013/09/12/goodman-real-estate-brings-brewery-to-uptown-district-in-cleveland/

 

Uptown today

 

 

 

 

 

 

CIA's Euclid 115 in the background, other recent pics of E-115 here  http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,28505.0.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the coming-soon Cleveland Beer Cellars

 

 

 

Pure awesome, Clueless- thanks!  The extra height for Phase II is fantastic.

Awesome pictures! Thanks for sharing!

And if anyone else is confused about the future date dedication...it'll be tied to Case's Homecoming:

 

http://www.casealum.org/blue-block-party-2.0

 

^Thanks. I was wondering about that, I thought that might be  a "typo."

Great pics, Clueless! I was in that area earlier this week and just loved seeing the uptick in pedestrian activity, no doubt caused by the increase in sidewalk-fronting uses! Brilliant!

More progress at Uptown:

 

Good job including the bus in there for scale.

So who's going to be the first to say that they like the green panels better than what the final design calls for?

So who's going to be the first to say that they like the green panels better than what the final design calls for?

 

:lol: :lol:

 

Funny because it was probably about to happen.

So who's going to be the first to say that they like the green panels better than what the final design calls for?

 

Then we you do get something like that people still don't like it: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,3435.msg677069.html#msg677069

 

People in general just like to complain.

We were at Lakeview Cemetery on Sunday, and I saw some bright green in the skyline of UC while up in the Garfield monument. It just dawned on me now with all this talk of the green (which I like, btw) that it was Uptown I was looking at:

 

 

EDIT: The Breuer Tower is noticeably brighter too :D

 

 

From today:

 

 

^ wow that is moving along quickly. Btw MayDay, thanks for all the photo construction updates. Really adds value to this forum.

aww dammit! i was hoping toby plaza was named after harvey pekar's buddy toby radloff, not some rich guy's wife.

 

 

From yesterday.....

 

Wow, these guys move fast.

... I'm no construction expert, but I'm assuming they're racing to seal the structure prior to the winter season so they can work inside... no?