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I don't know how we all missed this on Litt's blog:

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/

 

Cleveland State's College of Education shaping up as a solid background player -- not a star

Posted by Plain Dealer Architecture Critic Steven Litt October 01, 2007 16:07PM

Categories: Architecture...

 

I really love the modern look of this building from the renderings. Maybe he's right; it's not really enough of a statement to make it a star. But I think it's a really cool building nonetheless.

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so Litt doesn't consider Mies assertive? 

^In relation to today's avant garde, it could be taken that way.

What does Mies have to do with any of this?

Thanks MTS! Just busy with work. I still pop up every now and then. :)

I miss Blinker loving it on UrbanOhio and elsewhere. Sigh.

Well, I see Blinky more than ever now.  Maybe I can post on his behalf. :)

  • 2 weeks later...

There was an interesting article about how college towns help make cities more stable...espcially in the housing markets.  Hopefully another positive influence of Cleveland's soon to be/expanding College town around the inner east side neighborhoods and beyond.

 

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November 4, 2007

The Nation

College Towns Escape the Pain

By FORD FESSENDEN

 

As the inner cities, along with much of Florida and the interior of California, face the prospect of a foreclosure meltdown, American college towns appear to be islands of stability.

 

The list of metropolitan areas with the smallest percentage of high-cost home loans is dominated by small cities with big colleges, including Ithaca, N.Y.; Iowa City; Madison, Wis.; Morgantown, W.V.; and State College, Pa.

 

Is it because their educated residents were so much smarter than the rest of us, and foresaw the folly? Is it because baby boomers, coughing up tuition for their children, are enriching those economies — with dollars often borrowed on refinanced houses back home? Or is it because aging boomers themselves are relocating with big down payments in hand and retirement in mind?

 

It could be all of that and more, say economists and academics. But ultimately, what the cities on the list have in larger measure than much of the rest of the country is stability, in both their housing and job markets.

 

“Those housing markets are not superheated,” said Bruce Katz, director of metropolitan policy at the Brookings Institution. “And salaries are pretty good for faculty and research assistants. So wages and housing prices are more in sync than in the rest of the country.”

 

The subprime-lending crisis is in one sense simply the barometer of how far home prices have outstripped incomes. As homes became harder to afford, financing became more creative, and expensive. Irrational exuberance ensued, along with predation.

 

“Where subprimes are turning up is in hot markets, but also in places like Cleveland and Detroit,” Mr. Katz said. “College towns are more stable places in some respects. If you make between $75,000 and $125,000 in these places, you can get into a pretty decent home and still have very reasonable ratios.”

 

Contributing to reasonable home prices is the fact that many places on the list are economic oases, surrounded by areas where jobs are dwindling, which helps depress housing demand. Yet the college towns themselves are thriving: The peak years for American births since the baby boom were 1989 to 1993, and college enrollments are swelling as never before. Many communities on the list also have big medical centers or flourishing research operations.

 

“There’s so much construction at Cornell,” said Richard L. Patterson, the general manager of Audrey Edelman RealtyUSA in Ithaca.

 

Lending tends to be dominated by the local bank rather than mortgage companies. In Iowa City, Hills Bank and Trust made 30 percent of the mortgages on one- to four-family homes in 2006. In Ithaca, Tompkins Trust Company and the Cornell University credit union lead the list of lenders.

 

“We’re like what middle-class America used to be,” said Barbara Alexander, a real estate agent in Morgantown, home of West Virginia University. “We’re insulated from what happens in other places, and the lenders and buyers are more conservative. I can’t remember the last time we had a recession in Morgantown.”

 

Some experts say the explanation is largely cultural.

 

“Professors and other educated residents in these heartland college towns are conservative when it comes to money and investments,” said William Frey, a demographer at Brookings. “They spend their time worrying about ideas, publishing and ‘the greater good.’ ”

^^What exactly makes this an "editorial"?  It simply rehashes what has been stated in other news articles.  I guess the last sentence is an opinion but hardly controversial or thought provoking.  Did a third grader offer this for publication as part of a class project? 

They probably couldn't find anything else to opine about, and since space between the ads needs to be filled, they chose this. There are weeks at Sun when all we have is positive news, so we do "at-a-boy" and "way-to-go" editorials.

 

Remember, all we newswriters do is fill in the space between the ads. The ads get "dummied" in first and what's left over is called the "news hole."

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^^What exactly makes this an "editorial"?  It simply rehashes what has been stated in other news articles.  I guess the last sentence is an opinion but hardly controversial or thought provoking.  Did a third grader offer this for publication as part of a class project? 

 

"Editorial"?  It's not front page stuff, but is this really so strange an article?  The only thing I find weird is the opinion in the last paragraph, which was so moronic as not to be worth printing.

Straphanger, I think Htsguy may have been talking about post 230 as opposed to post 231 (all I can figure). 

^Thanks WB (and sorry Htsguy), that makes a lot more sense.

  • 1 month later...

With this announcement, we should see things happening really soon here.

 

Cross-posted from the Stark thread -

 

 

Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson likes Warehouse District proposal; now it's on to the details

Posted by Plain Dealer Architecture Critic Steven Litt December 07, 2007 13:01PM

 

Along with the Warehouse District, the other areas to benefit would be lower Euclid Avenue, the "Collegetown" district south of Cleveland State University and the Avenue District along East 12th Street and Superior Avenue. A possible fifth zone may involve the Triangle development in University Circle.

It sounds good but I'll be interested to see how "quickly" things come to realization.

  • 5 weeks later...

Well, just to document it here, the College Town development was the recipient of a state tax credit.  Below is an excerpt of an article posted in the State Historic Tax Credit thread (link below).

 

Six Cleveland projects awarded historic-preservation tax credits

Saturday, December 29, 2007

Alison Grant, Plain Dealer Reporter

The biggest tax credit in Cleveland - $1.4 million - went to the Scott A. Rogers Co. Building that is part of the "University Lofts" project near Cleveland State University. The property at 2020 Euclid Ave. is the home of a new Barnes & Noble bookstore and will eventually include apartments.  University Lofts is itself part of a larger "collegetown" near CSU that planners and landowners envision as an $80 million redevelopment involving dwellings, stores and offices.

 

more at:

http://www.cleveland.com/business/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/business-4/1198921019280260.xml&coll=2

Well, just to document it here, the College Town development was the recipient of a state tax credit.  Below is an excerpt of an article posted in the State Historic Tax Credit thread (link below).

 

Six Cleveland projects awarded historic-preservation tax credits

Saturday, December 29, 2007

Alison Grant, Plain Dealer Reporter

The biggest tax credit in Cleveland - $1.4 million - went to the Scott A. Rogers Co. Building that is part of the "University Lofts" project near Cleveland State University. The property at 2020 Euclid Ave. is the home of a new Barnes & Noble bookstore and will eventually include apartments.  University Lofts is itself part of a larger "collegetown" near CSU that planners and landowners envision as an $80 million redevelopment involving dwellings, stores and offices.

 

more at:

http://www.cleveland.com/business/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/business-4/1198921019280260.xml&coll=2

 

I haven't been down there in a long time.  Has there been any progress on this building or elsewhere in the overall College Town development?

The new Barnes & Noble is the only thing that has happened. However, it does appear that some prep work is being done in anticipation for the in-fill loft building. The parking lot next to B&N is has been fenced off for a few months and some work is being done on the adjacent building walls.

Nice. Thanks for the update.

  • 1 month later...

I found this on the Cleveland State website!

 

http://www.csuohio.edu/news/releases/2008/02/14431.html

 

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Elements Bistro on Euclid Opens on Cleveland State’s Campus to Serve Students, Faculty, Area Businesses and Greater Cleveland Community

 

 

Cleveland, Ohio – Elements Bistro on Euclid, the new restaurant on Cleveland State University’s campus, will open on Monday, February 11, 2008, on the first floor of the University’s Parker Hannifin Administration Center at 2300 Euclid Avenue.

 

The name, Elements Bistro on Euclid, is drawn from the title of the mathematician Euclid’s Elements – regarded as the most influential textbook ever written, and a play on the restaurant's university setting and its address on Euclid Avenue. Elements’ cuisine strives to showcase simple preparations that highlight the elemental quality of seasonal ingredients and the best our region has to offer.

 

Elements Bistro on Euclid will be open for breakfast and lunch, Monday through Friday from 7 a.m. to 4 p.m. and can be reserved for parties of 30 or more in the evenings and on weekends. In the future, the restaurant will also offer an extensive beer and wine menu.

 

Cleveland State’s decision to include the Bistro in the operations run by the University's dining services provider, Chartwells Educational Dining Services, is unique. Typically, campuses will bring in a franchise to operate a restaurant that is located on campus. “We consider Elements to be a Cleveland restaurant that happens to be on CSU's campus,” said Clare Rahm, Assistant Vice President for Campus Support Services. 

 

Elements will use local products when feasible, including Amish cheeses, locally produced sausages and pastas, and eventually will feature Ohio wine and beer. “Using local products will help raise awareness that Cleveland produces high quality products, and it also helps support the local economy,” said Frank Hurley, Executive Chef, CSU Dining Services. “Local food can also be tracked to easily determine where all of the products came from – start to finish.”

 

Culinary Consultant and CSU Alumnus Tim McCoy of KMST Culinary Consulting was brought in by the University to assist in the development of the restaurant concept and menu selections.

 

“The main style of cuisine at the restaurant is what I might call ‘contemporary eclectic bistro,’ meaning that we will adhere to the principle of delivering simple, but tasty food” said McCoy. “Of course, the Elements concept carries other resonances that are felt in the cuisine such as the fact that some dishes utilize locally produced products and others pay homage to Cleveland’s diverse ethnic make-up, including Ohio City Pasta of the Day and a spin on local favorites such as the Chicken Paprikash and West Side Market Sausage and Pierogies.”

 

The Bistro’s contemporary space offers a main circular-shaped bar and a secondary free-standing bar which seats 15 on Italian leather stools. Sixty seats are available in the dining area. Warm, intimate spaces are created with three banquettes that offer views to the adjacent plaza and the recently renovated Howe Mansion.

 

A series of French doors open the restaurant to an exterior patio that seats 52 during the seasonal months. Patrons will always feel engaged to the exterior, however, due to the expansive windows that run the entire perimeter of the restaurant.

 

Chartwells will operate the restaurant and selected Amy Woodward to be the chef. She has been cooking in area operations for almost 15 years, including several years at Michael Longo's Restaurants in Bainbridge (Firefly, Market Square Bistro) and most recently at Trifles Cafe and Catering in Chagrin Falls. Steven Adams, who has a diverse background in restaurant management including Atria’s and Panera, will manage the front of the house.

 

While restaurants can be a difficult business venture, Cleveland State President Michael Schwartz says “this restaurant is not a copy of anything, and it doesn’t compete with others out there. I think local area retailers and restaurants will welcome our presence.”

 

The bistro concept gives Elements great flexibility to meet different seasonal tastes. The menu will change with the seasons and allow patrons the opportunity to experience new menu options as a part of their future dining experiences.

 

According to McCoy, the pricing structure for the restaurant is consistent with other mid-range restaurants in the area, and for the quality of ingredients utilized in preparing the Elements menu, will represent a good dining value.

 

“We hope to add dinner business sometime in the future to coordinate with events at the Wolstein Center and Playhouse Square,” added President Schwartz.

 

 

A Restaurant in the Making

 

When Michael Schwartz joined Cleveland State University as President in 2001, he brought with him a vision to create a sense of community and place on campus and a desire to encourage the surrounding businesses and the local community to engage in this vision as well.

 

As a part of this vision, and as a result of a University survey for its Campus Master Plan, it was identified that Cleveland State lacked a formal, sit-down restaurant to meet student and faculty needs.

 

Having come from Kent State University with its table service restaurant known as the Schwebel Garden Room that is catered by the University Food Service, President Schwartz wanted to bring a similar concept to Cleveland State. However, he wanted to take it to the next level by developing a private restaurant on campus, with a menu that would be independent from the standard food service fare and would not only serve the University’s population, but area businesses, visitors to campus and Greater Cleveland as a whole. “The University wanted a storefront presence, either retail or restaurant, in order to help create a comfort level on campus,” said John Boyle III, CSU’s Vice President for Business Affairs and Finance.

 

In 2004, the opportunity arose to open the restaurant in the storefront space that would be a part of CSU’s $16.5 million project, funded by university bonds, to renovate historic Howe Mansion and build the new Parker Hannifin Administration Center. Braun & Steidl Architects of Akron, Ohio served as the lead designers for the Howe Mansion, Administration Building and the Elements restaurant space.

 

In the spring of 2007, the University hired Studio Graphique, Inc., a Cleveland-based brand consultancy and environmental graphic design firm, to assist in naming the restaurant and to design a logo, exterior signage, menus and marketing collateral.

 

“Elements is really spearheading community development and building a sense of neighborhood on campus,” said Ned Hill, Vice President of Economic Development at Cleveland State. “Elements is the start of a village node that is growing at Euclid with the renovation of Fenn Tower, Howe Mansion, the Administration Center and Shops at Trinity Commons: Cafe Ah-Roma, Sacred Path Books and Art, and Ten Thousand Villages. They all create a triangle of convenience that is forming here with education, housing, retail, dining and access to the RTA Silver Line.”

 

“The restaurant will help create more foot traffic on campus,” said President Schwartz. “Foot traffic is a critical matter for the University in order to be able to draw more retail opportunities to campus. It’s all part of the whole ‘college town’ concept.”

 

The goal for all parties involved is to create a successful restaurant and environment that welcomes visitors from both inside and outside of the University and helps create the neighborhood environment that CSU and local residents and businesses are looking for. This project and the others in the area encompass the University’s continued support of the growth and development of the City of Cleveland and its residents.

 

Elements Bistro on Euclid is located on the first floor of the Parker Hannifin Administration Center at 2300 Euclid Avenue, Cleveland, Ohio 44115. Open for breakfast and lunch, Monday - Friday from 7 am - 4 pm; can be reserved for parties of 30 or more in the evenings and on weekends.

 

Phone 216.802.3131 

Nice, sounds like a great new lunch spot.

 

Hopefully College Town gets going here soon.  I know the market is tough right now, but I think that Euclid Avenue has some great momentum in this stretch.

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Has anyone else heard that the current location of the CSU bookstore will be redeveloped as student housing?  I heard this from a senior level staff person at CSU.  However, this person is not a planner, so not sure if this is the current plan or part of an older plan.  Anyone know?

^I've heard that CSU is accepting applications or something like that for the site (for housing).

You brat! tongue4.gif

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Not exclusively student housing. It would be developed by a private developer and is supposed to have a market rate and affordable mix. Also, the proposed roadway between Euclid and Prospect (for College Town) is supposed to include new roads for this area.

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via > http://www.csuohio.edu/today/080125.html

 

University Center Closing

 

Beginning Monday, March 17, three new physical changes will impact the Cleveland State University campus.

 

    * University Center will permanently close to the public.

    * The Innerlink will be rerouted. A portion of the Innerlink between the Main Classroom and Music and Communication buildings will be outdoors; pedestrians will follow detour signs across Rhodes Tower Plaza.

    * The newly constructed student services plaza in the Main Classroom building will open.

 

As part of Building Blocks for the Future, CSU’s $200 million-plus campus master plan, University Center will be demolished and a new Student Center will be constructed. When the Student Center opens in spring 2010, it will house Student Life, Student Government and organizations, a first-floor bookstore, dining facilities and more.

 

Student-oriented administrative offices now located in University Center will temporarily move to the plaza level of Main Classroom. These include Campus411, Campus Activities Board, the Cashier’s Office, Disability Services, Mobile Campus, Student Life, the Print Shop, the Howard A. Mims African American Cultural Center, and more.

 

View the Innerlink detour and Main Classroom directory, both effective Monday, March 17.

 

Ironically the old student center was the only building I actually liked on the CSU campus...

^I agree- I think the student center was a major cut above the watered down brutalist junk that is staying.

 

    * The Innerlink will be rerouted. A portion of the Innerlink between the Main Classroom and Music and Communication buildings will be outdoors; pedestrians will follow detour signs across Rhodes Tower Plaza.

 

Students walking outside? oh the humanity!

does anyone know when the student center is actually slated for demolition?  And for that matter when the new education building is scheduled to break ground?... I know I saw somewhere that they said construction would begin in "early 2008", just thought someone might have a better idea.

I used to go CSU in the 70's.  I can't remember which building we are talking about. Does anyone have a link with picture of this building

does anyone know when the student center is actually slated for demolition?  And for that matter when the new education building is scheduled to break ground?... I know I saw somewhere that they said construction would begin in "early 2008", just thought someone might have a better idea.

 

The building will close in a few weeks. Then salvage will be done and asbestos abatement after that. Demo should start right after commencement in April

 

 

I used to go CSU in the 70's.  I can't remember which building we are talking about. Does anyone have a link with picture of this building

 

 

There are tons of photos of it throughout this thread.

Its the building across hte street from the Rascal House and Viking Hall (old Holiday Inn)

  • 2 weeks later...

From Crains:

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20080303/FREE/81643570/0/global

 

Housing plan near CSU wins more aid

 

By STAN BULLARD

 

4:30 am, March 3, 2008

 

Cuyahoga County commissioners approved a $300,000 addition to an $800,000 loan they have approved for the $16 million rental loft and condo project that’s planned for the 2000 block of Euclid Avenue near Cleveland State University.

 

David Kauffman, one of the two brothers in Brothers Printing Co. at 2000 Euclid Ave. who plan to redo upper floors of buildings they own on the block, said they hope to close on financing and to begin construction this month.

Please, I hope, hope, hope, someone has info. on this one! The new admin. building that was just completed between the CSU bookstore and Trinity Commons apparently now has an eatery/restaurant/deli that is "now open for breakfast and lunch"! I didn't know this building would house such a thing! It looked very nice from the road as I drove by. I hope it's not crap.. anybody been there or know what this place is all about? I am going to try and stop by in the coming week if the weather improves, I'll walk to it from work. :D

^^^"the cage"

Please, I hope, hope, hope, someone has info. on this one! The new admin. building that was just completed between the CSU bookstore and Trinity Commons apparently now has an eatery/restaurant/deli that is "now open for breakfast and lunch"! I didn't know this building would house such a thing! It looked very nice from the road as I drove by. I hope it's not crap.. anybody been there or know what this place is all about? I am going to try and stop by in the coming week if the weather improves, I'll walk to it from work. :D

 

I think it's been discussed in other threads.  Here's some info from the Cauldron: http://media.www.csucauldron.com/media/storage/paper516/news/2008/02/19/Culture/Elements.Bistro.On.Euclid.Brings.An.Upscale.Touch.To.The.Cleveland.State.Campus-3219231.shtml

Awesome! Thanks straphanger! I wish this place luck, as this is the perfect addition to that part of Euclid!!!

  • 4 weeks later...

CSU's new parking garage on Prospect at E.22nd is going for its final review today at the City Planning Commission meeting.

 

edit: oops, this should be posted on the project thread (but I'm too lazy at the moment).

 

I thought the parking lot on Prospect and E. 22nd was going to become the RTA East Side Transit Center and also the CSU sports fieldhouse -- with a parking garage incorporated into the design. 

 

Is it now just a parking garage only?

^the parking garage will be about 4 stories or so and will take up the southern half of the lot (will face onto Carnegie). The northern half of the lot will be saved for future development (CSU housing, field house, rta???)

Cool, thanks.

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Anyone else notice the 'new look' bus station on E. 18th @ Euclid?  It's right next to the renovated law school frontage.

Material use appears similar to ECTP, but design is different. 

Anyone else notice the 'new look' bus station on E. 18th @ Euclid?  It's right next to the renovated law school frontage.

Material use appears similar to ECTP, but design is different. 

 

How about snapping a picture of it and posting it in the ECTP thread?? :wink:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080331/SUB1/959969030/1008/TOC&Profile=1008&template=printart

 

New union, education building next as CSU tries to shed commuter rep

 

By SHANNON MORTLAND

 

4:30 am, March 31, 2008

 

Michael Schwartz envisions a time when people no longer will drive through the Cleveland State University campus without knowing it, and his $300 million plan to realize that vision is coming to fruition.

 

As the downtown university positions itself to begin construction on a new student union and a new building for the College of Education, it also is planning new residence halls, a parking garage and a baseball field, said Dr. Schwartz, president of Cleveland State.

 

The new construction aims to turn the commuter campus into one that’s more livable for students. The latest round of transformations began March 17 with the closing of University Center, the concrete-heavy building that served as the student union.

 

The 200,000-square-foot building, which is on Euclid Avenue between East 21st and East 22nd streets, over the summer will be demolished to make room for a new $55 million student center, said Jack Boyle, vice president for business affairs and finance.

 

At 138,000 square feet, the new student union will be smaller, but much more usable, with its open and airy spaces, Dr. Schwartz said.

 

“That building was about as uninviting a place as you could imagine,” he said. “Early county jail was the architectural style, not even modern.”

 

When it opens in 2010, the new union will house services such as student government, student life, the bookstore, dining hall and a bar, Dr. Schwartz said. It will be the first Cleveland State building people see as they enter the campus from East 21st Street.

 

“That should be the focal point of the campus,” he said. “It will be a space students can call home. It will be warm, inviting, have a fireplace in the winter time. It will be a place for parties and dances.”

 

The College of Education also will get a new $36 million home on Euclid Avenue at Interstate 90, land that now is occupied by a parking lot, Mr. Boyle said. Construction on the 97,000-square-foot building will begin this spring and the building will open in 2010, he said.

 

Though the College of Education has been a center of excellence for Cleveland State, it hasn’t had its own building, so it has been spread out in several locations across campus, Dr. Schwartz said. When the new building opens, there will be no mistaking the College of Education’s prominence at the university because it will serve as the entryway to the campus from the east, he said.

 

 

 

Homing in on a problem

 

Across the street from the new College of Education building, Cleveland State is planning a 600-bed residence hall that is expected to cost between $40 million and $50 million, Mr. Boyle said. Cleveland State is working with American Campus Communities of Austin, Texas, to design the building, he said. American Campus Communities now manages the existing dormitories on the Cleveland State campus and will manage the new residence halls, he said.

 

Early drawings call for the new student housing to be in four buildings that form a rectangle. The buildings likely would be linked with enclosed walkways and shared common areas, Mr. Boyle said. The first phase of that project is slated to open in August 2010, he said.

 

Once that project is completed, Viking Hall, which is a former Holiday Inn on Euclid Avenue that has been transformed into a dormitory, will be demolished, he said. That spot eventually could house a new science and engineering building, but plans are not set in stone, he said.

 

The lack of housing options on the Cleveland State campus causes the university to lose potential students, Dr. Schwartz said. Fenn Tower, which was remodeled and reopened as student housing in 2006, is full, he said.

 

“Parents want to see housing affiliated with us,” he said. “If we had more housing, more students would come here. Our problem is how fast we can get it up.”

 

Cleveland State already is planning even more housing. Along with the planned project on Euclid Avenue, Cleveland State hopes to create a new student residential community that would encircle a new $4 million baseball field, much like the apartment-style Village at 115 that Case Western Reserve University opened in 2005.

 

That project would be built on Chester Avenue on 18 acres of land that now holds about 2,000 parking spaces in surface lots, Mr. Boyle said. Those parking spaces would be consolidated into two or three parking garages, he said.

 

“It’s certainly something we’re striving to do,” he said. “We really need a donor to step up with $4 million (for the baseball field).”

 

 

 

Street life

 

Though funding needs to be secured before the Chester Avenue projects can come to life, Cleveland State is moving forward with plans for three new uses for the land between Carnegie and Prospect avenues that now is a parking lot for the Wolstein Center, Mr. Boyle said.

 

On April 1, Cleveland State will begin soliciting bids to use a portion of the lot along Carnegie Avenue to build a new $12 million, 612-space parking deck, he said. The garage would replace the 288-space surface lot, he said.

 

Parking for events at the Wolstein Center is at a premium, with many people having to park on the streets or in the theater district.

 

The middle of that surface lot has been set aside for an $11 million transit center that the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority wants to build, Mr. Boyle said. A portion of the lot that now lines Prospect Avenue would be reserved for additional student housing that might be built in the future, he said.

 

Construction on the RTA station, which will serve as a central gathering point for buses coming from both the East and West sides, will begin next year and likely open in 2011, said Joseph Calabrese, RTA’s general manager.

 

He said RTA and Cleveland State still are in talks about whether RTA would buy or lease the land from Cleveland State and who would provide maintenance to the site.

 

Cleveland State’s multimillion dollar transformation already has seen the opening of a new $29 million recreation center in 2006, the Fenn Tower renovation, the redesign of the outdoor plaza and last week’s opening of the new first floor of the Main Classroom building.

 

The first floor of that 1970s-era building had never been used, Mr. Boyle said. Dr. Schwartz said students and potential students are responding well to the changes.

 

“When we have high schools visit us and (we) take them through the recreation center and Fenn Tower, it’s not difficult to make the point that this is a great place to be,” Dr. Schwartz said.

 

 

 

Have they started the Education building yet?  If not, it sounds like any day now.

Wow, good news about the new housing.  With all the private stuff happening on Euclid, the student resident population around CSU should really swell in the next few years.

 

"Parking for events at the Wolstein Center is at a premium, with many people having to park on the streets or in the theater district."

 

The horror!  After the Cole Eye Institute, I think the Wolstein is the mostly poorly cited building in the city.

Wow, good news about the new housing.  With all the private stuff happening on Euclid, the student resident population around CSU should really swell in the next few years.

 

"Parking for events at the Wolstein Center is at a premium, with many people having to park on the streets or in the theater district."

 

The horror!  After the Cole Eye Institute, I think the Wolstein is the mostly poorly cited building in the city.

 

re parking: um, the lots for PHS are just on the other side of E.18th from the Wolstein Center. It is not like people are parking in the gateway garages.

 

re site location:  Straphanger, are you saying that the WC is poorly located in context to the rest of the city or are you saying that it simply wastes a lot of space within its block?

Wow, good news about the new housing.  With all the private stuff happening on Euclid, the student resident population around CSU should really swell in the next few years.

 

"Parking for events at the Wolstein Center is at a premium, with many people having to park on the streets or in the theater district."

 

The horror!  After the Cole Eye Institute, I think the Wolstein is the mostly poorly cited building in the city.

 

Another reason people "dont get it" around here ** Damnit I'm having a Clvlndr moment **  :wink:

 

We have the ECP going up and street level development going around the campus (and adjacent areas), instead of "forcing" people to walk and spend money (before, after & during school; pre/post games, concerts, seminars, etc..) we want to build another damn garage or make stupid A$$ statements. 

 

Are people really to lazy to walk a few damn blocks. 

 

When are we going to start "reconditioning" people to use public transportation or that walking the city streets is actually enjoyable?  You don't have to run back to your car right after an event!

Generally speaking, the goal of the  new parking garages that CSU will be building is to replace surface lots that will be built on. If you read the master plan literature, it talks about this.

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