November 4, 200915 yr Yes that is what they are using...that is why I was wondering...but again I am not a construction expert. this is the same type of construction they used on the 4 story dorms/apartments in downtown akron, on south main street, also similar to construction on downtown oberlin project.
November 16, 200915 yr Facade work started on the Allegro Building, former Morse Graphics, last week. It already looks much better after just a couple days.
November 17, 200915 yr CSU issued a request for proposals yesterday: Revised RFP issued today... scaled down into phases. Phase 1 is concentrated on Chester, between E. 21 and E. 24, including the Theater Arts building. Unfortunately, the Doan building is now available for demo if need be.
November 17, 200915 yr CSU issued a request for proposals yesterday: Revised RFP issued today... scaled down into phases. Phase 1 is concentrated on Chester, between E. 21 and E. 24, including the Theater Arts building. Unfortunately, the Doan building is now available for demo if need be. Out of curiosity, how do you know they issued a revised RFP? Are you on a mailing list? Do they post it on their website?
November 17, 200915 yr CSU issued a request for proposals yesterday: Revised RFP issued today... scaled down into phases. Phase 1 is concentrated on Chester, between E. 21 and E. 24, including the Theater Arts building. Unfortunately, the Doan building is now available for demo if need be. What services do they want proposals for. (Architecture, Engineer, CM)
November 18, 200915 yr If it's anything like last time, they'll post it on their website. I was on an email list, though. They are looking for a development team to develop the first 6.8 acres of the North Campus neighborhood project.
November 19, 200915 yr Out of curiosity, how do you know they issued a revised RFP? Are you on a mailing list? Do they post it on their website? I assume you can go here: http://www.csuohio.edu/offices/architect/projects/northcampus/ at the bottom they have a place to enter your email for updates. I don't see anything else posted on their website.
December 1, 200915 yr It's supported by that orange extension cord. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 4, 200915 yr The new dorm -- what I see when I get to work... The East building on Prospect is already three floors high. They are pouring the slab foundation for the West building. Steel is going up for the building on Euclid Avenue. The parking garage looks started too with concrete forms. I hope the weather holds...
December 4, 200915 yr ^Thanks for that link! CSU certainly makes new construction look fast and easy. Amazing how much has been/is getting built along Euclid there. This stretch is going to look soooo much better than 10 years ago.
December 5, 200915 yr there should be retail on the street front of all these buildings--esp. on euclid--cafes, restaurants, bookstores, shops---like you see in other campus neighborhoods around the country. http://www.csuohio.edu/offices/architect/
December 6, 200915 yr Why should there be retail on the front of University buildings along Euclid Avenue? Shouldn't the University stick to what it does best (education) and let the area between 18th and 21st, "College Town," develop speculative retail? Wouldn't any retail that goes into a University building be under the Food Service or Bookstore contractor? I bet most of those two entities' investment is going into the new student center. Why would they want to disperse their business and incurr more operating costs?
December 6, 200915 yr Why should there be retail on the front of University buildings along Euclid Avenue? Shouldn't the University stick to what it does best (education) and let the area between 18th and 21st, "College Town," develop speculative retail? Wouldn't any retail that goes into a University building be under the Food Service or Bookstore contractor? I bet most of those two entities' investment is going into the new student center. Why would they want to disperse their business and incurr more operating costs? Becuase they are trying to cultivate and reconnect to a neighborhood and be a catalyst for growth. CSU is no longer thinking of itself singularly. Euclid avenue was redone with the specific purpose to bring businesses back. CSU can no longer act like a fortress. In order to be a neighborhood it has to cater to and offer more than just CSU related things. If housing and market rate apartment/condos are going up around it, the neighborhood will need neighborhood establishments. My question to you is why wouldn't those business relocate there?? CSU's students and faculty aren't the only people in the area.
December 6, 200915 yr Because they are trying to cultivate and reconnect to a neighborhood and be a catalyst for growth. CSU is no longer thinking of itself singularly. Euclid avenue was redone with the specific purpose to bring businesses back. CSU can no longer act like a fortress. In order to be a neighborhood it has to cater to and offer more than just CSU related things. If housing and market rate apartment/condos are going up around it, the neighborhood will need neighborhood establishments. My question to you is why wouldn't those business relocate there?? CSU's students and faculty aren't the only people in the area. I mention the E. 18th to 21st street area as the appropriate area for the "retail" you mention because those buildings and the property are not owned by the University. The apartments and condos in the area are either on Prospect (Walker Weeks) or on Euclid (University Lofts, 1900 Lofts). The University should focus on getting more people to live in the area and leave the entrepreneurial activity to off-campus investment.
December 6, 200915 yr Article on new apartments: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/12/apartments_near_cleveland.html
December 6, 200915 yr Thanks Mick7102. Under copyright laws, you can post the headline, author, date and a couple of paragraphs from the article, then the link so they can read the rest. Take a look at how others have posted articles, or when in doubt, see the big read scary box for the rules on posting copyrighted articles. Press releases or blogs from nonprofits are fair game. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 6, 200915 yr Article in the PD on the completion of the first part of College Town: Apartments near Cleveland State are ready for residents By Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer December 06, 2009, 10:15AM CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Thirty apartments on Euclid Avenue are among the first projects to be completed with help from a state incentive for preserving historic buildings. The Kaufman brothers have finished transforming two buildings near Cleveland State University and are waiting for their certificate of occupancy. More at: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/12/apartments_near_cleveland.html
December 6, 200915 yr Nice that they already rented 12 of 30 apartments and possibly sold 3 of 8 condo's, not bad considering they were not completed. I already had to counter one of the nasty post's on Cleve.com......!
December 6, 200915 yr Article in the PD on the completion of the first part of College Town: Apartments near Cleveland State are ready for residents By Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer December 06, 2009, 10:15AM CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Thirty apartments on Euclid Avenue are among the first projects to be completed with help from a state incentive for preserving historic buildings. The Kaufman brothers have finished transforming two buildings near Cleveland State University and are waiting for their certificate of occupancy. More at: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/12/apartments_near_cleveland.html Also, at the end of this article they talk about the possible (probable?) renovation of that terrific Brothers Printing Building that was a Studebaker Dealership. Apartments are to go upstairs with the Printing business remaining on the ground floor. Nice.
December 6, 200915 yr ^I always wondered why the Brothers building wasn't included in the original development. Seems like a natural fit to make the upper floors apartments as well. Hope things go well, so that they can finish that off too.
December 11, 200915 yr Cuyahoga County approves financing for Cleveland State University dorm project By Laura Johnston, The Plain Dealer December 10, 2009, 3:58PM http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/12/cuyahoga_county_sets_up_financ.html Cuyahoga County will serve as the middleman for up to $60 million in loans to build dorms and a parking garage at Cleveland State University. County commissioners on Thursday voted to approve bonds for the Euclid Avenue Housing Corp., a nonprofit organization created by CSU for development projects. The corporation, in return, volunteered to exceed the county's small business requirements for the construction project. "It's certainly a win-win," said Jack Boyle, president of Euclid Avenue Housing. "We're going beyond what the county requires, but it's also something we think is the right thing to do." Euclid Avenue Housing and its general contractor, Marous Brothers Construction Co., agreed that small businesses will perform 12 percent of the work, said Lenora Lockett, director of the county's Office of Procurement and Diversity. The workforce will be at least 16 percent minority and 5 percent female.
December 11, 200915 yr Are these the dorms that would be built with the financing just approved by the county? http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,2289.msg346059.html#msg346059 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 11, 200915 yr They're not the most architecturally stunning housing, but at least they're dense, on the sidewalk and should help produce some streetlife in that area. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 12, 200915 yr Off the shelf generic. Embarrassingly lame. I just still don't understand why they're building them with single-family home materials. With the amount of times college students start fires by burning sh!t in the microwave, framed construction is a baaaaaad option, in my opinion.
December 13, 200915 yr and its easy to tear down and replace in 20 years when its time to build the real dorms!
December 13, 200915 yr I'm sure they could try a little harder than that. I wouldn't be angry if they were built like that (since any construction is good) but I'd be pretty disappointed. I think I could even draw up something better than that in Google Sketchup (which I'm terrible at using)
December 18, 200915 yr and its easy to tear down and replace in 20 years when its time to build the real dorms! What do you mean by real dorms? If you mean the fortress type buildings with cinderblock walls and tile floors, my guess is that those are not only expensive to build but also not what todays students want to live in. As for longevity, I know that the same apartment buildings where I went to college were built with roughly the same materials and they are still standing and looking good. By the way, now the fourth floor is up on the south building behind the bookstore, the steel is complete on the building west of the bookstore and wood walls are going up. The southwest building's first floor walls are going up and the parking garage is taking shape.
December 18, 200915 yr ^What parking garage are you talking about? I wasn't aware another one was going up.
December 18, 200915 yr there is a garage being built in conjunction with the dorms, just west of them on prospect (behind the new parker hannifin administration center).
January 6, 201015 yr I guess there's a farmers market planned for the space where the Corlett building was formerly. This is a GREAT interim use of the space! From the design review committee website http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detail.php?ID=2657&CASE=DF%202010-001 Downtown/Flats Case # DF 2010-001 Address: 1935 Euclid Ave. Owner/Rep: Tania Anochin, CSU Architect: Anne Hartman, Ralph Tyler Companies Description: Site to be devoted to the North Union Farmers Market, April - October 2010 Notes: Reference DRC 2009-002 for original demolition plans and interim site use plan.
January 6, 201015 yr that plaza looks like something from the Brady Bunch! the 70s called and it wants it's date design back!
January 7, 201015 yr Maybe it would look better in person? But, yeah, I'm glad that's only temporary.
January 7, 201015 yr On that same subject..... I didnt see this posted yet. CSU maybe moving their art and theater departments to playhouse square (separate from the Allen Theater plan) Would certainly help to add energy in playhouse square. Also, it does mention at the end that the plan is still to build an arts complex on Euclid. Cleveland State University Art Department could move to PlayhouseSquare's Middough Building By Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer January 05, 2010, 6:29PM The university administration is negotiating to buy an early 20th century office and loft building at 1901 E. 13th St. owned by Middough Inc., an architecture, engineering and management company with offices in 17 U.S. cities including Chicago, Atlanta and Phoenix. The plan is to move the Art Department and the classroom and rehearsal spaces for the Theater Department from their present buildings off Chester Avenue at E. 23rd Street into the Middough building, located in the heart of the city's theater district, said John Boyle, the university's vice president for business and finance. The deal could mean relocating the busy CSU Art Gallery to the Haig Avedesian building at 1317 Euclid Avenue, where it could have frontage on the avenue, and proximity to the Middough building next door, Boyle said. http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2010/01/cleveland_state_university_art.html
January 7, 201015 yr That building is directly across from Parkview Apts. I hate to say it, but I am definitely concerned for the students safety if this move is made...especially the ones who work late night. But, Overall a GREAT idea for such a hidden gem! It would pretty much connect CSU to the E.12 neighborhood. MAP: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=cleveland&sll=41.506328,-81.68365&sspn=0.009513,0.027423&gl=qa&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Cleveland,+Cuyahoga,+Ohio&ll=41.506328,-81.685066&spn=0,359.972577&z=15&layer=c&cbll=41.502472,-81.683428&panoid=5tT98RxRM_J9eRiSj7ystQ&cbp=12,176.19,,0,-3.73
January 7, 201015 yr ^I've been to Middough on many occasions and that area can be quite dark at night. Hopefully CSU would invest in some additional street lighting for E13th and dodge court which runs back toward the PHS garage. I'm not sure if it's possible, but if they made the Middough building accessable through an entrance on Euclid that would solve a lot of the problems of the location. Students could then take 10 steps out of the building and catch the HealthLine or trolley back to the main campus. They may be able to connect to Ideastream somehow to give the students an indoor walkway to Euclid Ave.
January 7, 201015 yr I believe the article said that Middough would be directly connected to CSU gallery space that would front Euclid, right next door to the new CUDC space.
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