April 14, 201114 yr Laying bricks? Sounds painful.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 14, 201114 yr It looks like they are using two different kinds of bricks. Three if you count the brick on the side of the building.
April 15, 201114 yr Just realized by looking at that picture. There is actually 3 different color bricks on the front, and then another on the sides.
April 27, 201114 yr What's with all the different types of brick? It seems like a little too much if you ask me.
April 27, 201114 yr Laying bricks? Sounds painful.... Sounds like the Heat at the end of a close game.
April 27, 201114 yr Hard to tell from the pic but that cinder block type material at the base of the building looks almost as bad as the siding.
April 27, 201114 yr The "cinder block type material" is CMU (Concrete Masonry Unit). That is exposed, which isn't uncommon, though pretty ugly. But it looks like they used 2 different variants to add some sort of visual breakup of the material. I imagine those up top (the yellow, red, and more natural rust-looking color) are simply not finished, or being painted, etc.
April 28, 201114 yr Here is an image of what /where the different brick colors and type should follow as a reference for the final look
April 28, 201114 yr It looks like there's still room for about 7 other brick colors. Not if they limit it to a simple CMYK separation! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 28, 201114 yr u-g-l-y you aint got no alibi... My girlfriend and I were walking down Euclid on a Saturday a few weeks ago and I was pointing out the changes that have been made recently. we were standing by Fenn tower when she commented on how ugly/generic and out of place the new dorms + admin building look next to the rest of the buildings going west on the south side of Euclid.
April 28, 201114 yr I guess we could continue to complain about it, but I'd rather an ugly urban building than what used to be there and was rotting there since I was a kid.
April 28, 201114 yr ^I'm witholding judgement until I see the finished product, but I'm usually more easy on college housing. They could put up a barn for all I care, as long as it puts 400 or so more kids downtown I'm fine with it!
April 28, 201114 yr ^I might agree with you if these things were hidden on some side street. Fronting on Euclid...no way.
April 28, 201114 yr ^I'm witholding judgement until I see the finished product, but I'm usually more easy on college housing. They could put up a barn for all I care, as long as it puts 400 or so more kids downtown I'm fine with it! Division I Football. Tailgate Saturdays. 30,000 kids living downtown spending Mom and Dad's money. Highrise dorms borrowed from Soviet Bloc designs. I'm with you Hoot!
May 12, 201114 yr Important Euclid Ave news... Cleveland State to lease historic Union Building "Cleveland State University will lease a historic building that has been largely vacant for six years to use as administrative offices and to provide space for Northeast Ohio Medical University classes as part of a partnership to train urban doctors. Tom Kuluris, president of Liberty Development Co. of Westlake, is thrilled that CSU sees the potential in the Union Building at 1836 Euclid Ave., across the street from the university's student center. Liberty bought the building last summer and received $3.3 million in historic-preservation tax credits." continued at Cleveland State establishes partnership with Northeast Ohio Medical University By Karen Farkas, The Plain Dealer The Plain Dealer Published: Wednesday, May 11, 2011, 5:55 AM http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/05/cleveland_state_establishes_pa.html
May 12, 201114 yr Here is a blurb from google dated 6/26/10 announcing Liberty receiving tax credits for the Union Building. The Union Building The state awarded nearly $3.3 million in credits to Liberty Development Co. of Westlake, which has a contract to buy the largely vacant property at 1836 Euclid Ave. from developer Gordon Priemer. Liberty envisions an $18 million project, with 71,000 square feet of updated offices, 6,000 square feet of retail and indoor parking in the two connected buildings. Construction could start in the fall, and renovations would take a year. "We think that there are a few areas in Cleveland that are very dynamic. This is one of them," Liberty President Tom Kuluris said, pointing out the building's proximity to Cleveland State University. Kuluris would not identify his potential tenants.
May 16, 201114 yr This is the north-of-Chester project that we've heard about it for a while. I'm not sure if this project is outside of the CollegeTown footprint, but it is all part of the same agenda: CSU to introduce more on-campus housing Newest plans call for $50M mixed-use complex, featuring 275-plus apartments By TIMOTHY MAGAW 4:30 am, May 16, 2011 ...As for the latest plans, Dr. Berkman said the university will lease 6.8 acres of land to Polaris Real Estate Equities, a developer in Gates Mills, to build a mixed-use housing complex for students and non-students. University officials would not discuss the terms of the lease until the deal was finalized. Expected to open in summer 2012, the $50 million complex would feature between 275 to 300 apartments on the north side of the university's campus on Chester Avenue between East 21st and East 25th streets. If the complex proves to be a success, a second phase would be considered, according to Joe Mosbrook, a university spokesman.... http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20110516/SUB1/305169982
May 16, 201114 yr Great news! FYI: I suggest shortening the text posted here to 2-3 paragraphs to comply with copyrights. I'm surprised only 750-1,200 students live on campus right now. I'd love to see that more than quadrupled. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 16, 201114 yr I'm surprised only 750-1,200 students live on campus right now. I'd love to see that more than quadrupled. I wish that they'd give the numbers for how many students live near to campus. With the apartments just east of the inner belt and all the students in living in the apartments along E. 12th (Euclid to Superior), there are a lot more students living "on campus."
May 16, 201114 yr And just cause the rest dont live there doesnt mean they dont benefit downtown. During the school year, there is a lot of foot traffic and activity in that area.
May 16, 201114 yr This is indeed great news, I'd love to see CSU become more residential in character.
May 16, 201114 yr We're getting there and we're getting there fast. Props to Mr. Berkman, and to his predecessor who got the ball rolling on this.
May 17, 201114 yr Here is the polaris group website so far regarding CSU http://polaris-realestate.com/project-under-development/cleveland-state-university/
May 17, 201114 yr For a local company I'm surprised that they don't have a single local project in their portfolio.
May 18, 201114 yr For a local company I'm surprised that they don't have a single local project in their portfolio. I woulkd have to say they are a large company acting as Polaris LLC.
May 19, 201114 yr ^Well, as they're coming into being, I don't think Euclid Commons will be winning any beauty prizes but as has been said - putting a few hundred youngish vibrantish types downtown is never a bad thing, imho: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
May 19, 201114 yr ^Wow! Those strongly resemble what is being built near UC at the corner of McMillan and Ohio Ave. Both have that cheap "Lego" look to them. I wonder if they're both from the same developer. Anyway, it's good to see CSU making a push to be a more residential school, and at the same time, it doesn't hurt that it's downtown.
May 19, 201114 yr Maybe, by some miracle, there will be facade improvements in the future. (yes I realize I'm being highly optimistic)
May 19, 201114 yr The brick is mostly up on the eastside front of the building. It will be nice to see the whole front covered in brick. I think it will make the siding a little less noticeable.
May 19, 201114 yr Why is the ground wet? Did it rain recently?? :-P "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 19, 201114 yr Is the corner facade complete for the portion of the complex at the right of the photo? What's that gray material?
May 19, 201114 yr ^The building on the right is complete. I don't know what type of material was used.
May 19, 201114 yr ^The building on the right is complete. I don't know what type of material was used. :-o
May 19, 201114 yr ^The building on the right is complete. I don't know what type of material was used. :-o My thoughts exactly. That is such awful architecture! W.O.W. I am starting to think CSU will be unsuccessful at this venture, because it lacks what other "building out" campuses have (I.E. Cincinnati), an INVESTment in the BUILDINGS. Gag.
May 19, 201114 yr Yeah, i think that is a little bit of an overreaction to disliking the look of a set of dorms
May 19, 201114 yr I still think its to early to tell, especially if you are judging from that picture. It doesn't show the side were more bricks has been put up. That picture only shows the side were siding is present. That siding wont be on the front of the building.
May 19, 201114 yr http://wmf.memechose.com/wordpress/sustainability/case-study-5/ This website has better pictures of the facades finished from the first phase of construction and shows details of what the Euclid Ave. facade will resemble from the first phase. It show s the brick designs
May 19, 201114 yr If you walk by the completed dorms in person there is clearly way too much siding and it looks cheap. It does not meet the expectations you'd have for a college campus, much less one that's located in a major city's downtown. It's not the end of the world, I'm still excited about all the new housing, but it's kind of a shame the way it turned out.
May 19, 201114 yr http://wmf.memechose.com/wordpress/sustainability/case-study-5/ This website has better pictures of the facades finished from the first phase of construction and shows details of what the Euclid Ave. facade will resemble from the first phase. It show s the brick designs I think the design might be different from what I have seen. And they wont be using siding like they did for the prospect side
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