^There have been some other renderings over the past couple years, but I believe they were from the "Global Sustainable [sic] Center" iteration of the project and were primarily for marketing/master planning purposes, not real project planning, but I could be wrong.  Every single site plan or rendering of anything on that site, though, does show dumb corner plazas and fringy green space that I don't really get, so seems likely we'll see that kind of thing.

That's the one.  I remember saying something like "how is tearing everything down supposed to be sustainable?"

I couldn't figure out how to post the pic from my iPhone, but the new tower of light is up today and this photo is from csu Facebook.

 

 

The tower will shine a green ray of light up at night. I think it looks pretty cool IMO

I couldn't figure out how to post the pic from my iPhone, but the new tower of light is up today and this photo is from csu Facebook.

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/85972447@N04/8034020201

 

The tower will shine a green ray of light up at night. I think it looks pretty cool IMO

 

Here

 

^^ thank you!!

It does look cool... but it's purely cosmetic, and tuition seems awfully high for that sort of spending right now. 

It does look cool... but it's purely cosmetic, and tuition seems awfully high for that sort of spending right now.

 

How much did it cost ?

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/01/cleveland_state_university_to_5.html

 

One hundred thousand dollars.

There is now fencing up all around viking hall. Demo should be starting anytime now.

 

^Just happen to have this

 

 

 

 

Just a quick question to all of the people familiar with Viking Hall. With all of the demand for on-campus housing, just why are they tearing down this building. I believe it was built in the '70's as a Holiday Inn and was used for many years by CSU as housing. Is this building that dysfunctional or in need of repair? With so much housing demand, you you think that they could use it for housing.

I have heard a big cost factor was the asbestos removal. It was cheaper to build Euclid Commons to replace this facility .

 

Just a quick question to all of the people familiar with Viking Hall. With all of the demand for on-campus housing, just why are they tearing down this building. I believe it was built in the '70's as a Holiday Inn and was used for many years by CSU as housing. Is this building that dysfunctional or in need of repair? With so much housing demand, you you think that they could use it for housing.

 

Having lived here for a year, this place is just not what you want students living in. It's very very old- the building smells. The elevators are some of the worst I've experienced in my life. The windows are very outdated and weathered. The hallways make you feel that you are in a deserted building underground. The bathrooms are something you'd see in a condemned home.  Overall, it is just a complete wreck. They are better off building a new style dorm with better capacity than continue on with this place. Just my experience :)

and cockroaches

I have heard a big cost factor was the asbestos removal. It was cheaper to build Euclid Commons to replace this facility .

 

 

Asbestos has to be removed for demolition, too.  If anyone tells you a building was demolished because of asbestos, they are lying or don't know what they're talking about.

I have heard a big cost factor was the asbestos removal. It was cheaper to build Euclid Commons to replace this facility .

 

 

Asbestos has to be removed for demolition, too.  If anyone tells you a building was demolished because of asbestos, they are lying or don't know what they're talking about.

I didn't say that was the only factor. Just one of the many factors which have been mentioned above.

i love the new tower of light. Great addition to the campus. I'm so thrilled with all the new thing going on at CSU. And I'm not an alumni or anything, I'm just happy to see this progress. All CSU needs now is to give me a local college football team to root for  :wink:

i love the new tower of light. Great addition to the campus. I'm so thrilled with all the new thing going on at CSU. And I'm not an alumni or anything, I'm just happy to see this progress. All CSU needs now is to give me a local college football team to root for  :wink:

 

You do. It's called Kent State. ;)

 

FWIW, I like all the stuff going on at CSU, too. It's a terrific economic engine for downtown.

I will take some pics from the top of Main Classroom this week...awesome view from behind the elevators there.

I will take some pics from the top of Main Classroom this week...awesome view from behind the elevators there.

Agreed and thanks. I keep thinking of taking a pic from there, but I don't make it over till after evening classes and can't get a decent pic at night with my phone.

Here is a media release from CSU regarding the selection for the new Center for Innovation

 

Help Choose the Architect For the New Center for Innovation in Health Professions

 

The selection process for the architectural firm that will design Cleveland State's new Center for Innovation in Health Professions is down to three finalists. Each of the firms will make their final presentations from 8:30 a.m. to noon on Friday Oct. 5 in the Main Classroom Auditorium. Students, faculty, staff and community members are encouraged to join in the process and weigh in on the presentations.

 

The three finalist firms are:

 

HOK – a global design, architecture, engineering and planning firm founded in 1955, with 1,600 people who collaborate across a network of 24 offices on three continents. The firm has designed major buildings for a variety of industries including aviation, healthcare, education, hospitality, science and technology and government. For more information, visit http://www.hok.com. HOK is presenting in partnership with Prospectus Architecture of Cleveland.

 

NBBJ – a global architecture and design firm founded in 1943 that has created a variety of buildings, including world headquarters for Reebok, Starbucks and Telenor, as well as healthcare facilities for nine of the top 14 U.S. News and World Report Honor Roll hospitals. For more information, visit http://www.nbbj.com/

 

Pelli Clarke Pelli – A global architecture firm with a portfolio that includes retail and mixed-use projects, academic buildings, libraries, museums, research centers, residences and master plans. Projects include the World Financial Center in New York, the Petronas Towers in Malaysia and the International Finance Centre in Hong Kong. For more information, visit http://pcparch.com. Pelli is presenting in partnership with Stantec of Cleveland.

I wanna choose the person who did that site plan.  Doesn't matter what architect we hire, if they'll be told to ignore obvious urban design principles.

I wouldn't mind seeing nbbj get another CSU project.  I really like the education building, and I think (hope, at least) their experience with Euclid might help them to understand the what the context calls for, and incorporate that.

Someone was trying too hard when they designed the education building.  It's functionality is questionable, IMO.

 

I'd rather see someone come in with an idea for a building with more of a traditional look...something that will stand the test of time.

i love the new tower of light. Great addition to the campus. I'm so thrilled with all the new thing going on at CSU. And I'm not an alumni or anything, I'm just happy to see this progress. All CSU needs now is to give me a local college football team to root for  :wink:

 

You do. It's called Kent State. ;)

 

FWIW, I like all the stuff going on at CSU, too. It's a terrific economic engine for downtown.

 

And their's no economic engine quite like Division I football ;).    Let's face it, light towers and academics are great--but they don't attract frat boys and their mom's bank accounts ;)

 

 

And their's no economic engine quite like Division I football ;).    Let's face it, light towers and academics are great--but they don't attract frat boys and their mom's bank accounts ;)

 

I hear ya.

Someone was trying too hard when they designed the education building.  It's functionality is questionable, IMO.

 

I'd rather see someone come in with an idea for a building with more of a traditional look...something that will stand the test of time.

 

You've taken classes there?

i love the new tower of light. Great addition to the campus. I'm so thrilled with all the new thing going on at CSU. And I'm not an alumni or anything, I'm just happy to see this progress. All CSU needs now is to give me a local college football team to root for  :wink:

 

You do. It's called Kent State. ;)

 

FWIW, I like all the stuff going on at CSU, too. It's a terrific economic engine for downtown.

 

And their's no economic engine quite like Division I football ;).    Let's face it, light towers and academics are great--but they don't attract frat boys and their mom's bank accounts ;)

 

No doubt about it

I wouldn't mind seeing nbbj get another CSU project.  I really like the education building, and I think (hope, at least) their experience with Euclid might help them to understand the what the context calls for, and incorporate that.

 

Agreed

 

Someone was trying too hard when they designed the education building.  It's functionality is questionable, IMO.

 

I'd rather see someone come in with an idea for a building with more of a traditional look...something that will stand the test of time.

 

yawn....ha

i love the new tower of light. Great addition to the campus. I'm so thrilled with all the new thing going on at CSU. And I'm not an alumni or anything, I'm just happy to see this progress. All CSU needs now is to give me a local college football team to root for  :wink:

 

You do. It's called Kent State. ;)

 

FWIW, I like all the stuff going on at CSU, too. It's a terrific economic engine for downtown.

 

And their's no economic engine quite like Division I football ;).    Let's face it, light towers and academics are great--but they don't attract frat boys and their mom's bank accounts ;)

 

That doesn't apply to mid-major programs, which is the most CSU could ever hope to be.  No frat boy goes to Akron to watch the Zips play football.  I'm in favor of CSU starting a program and I do think it would be net plus, but we are not talking about a Big 10 program that would bring in enough in TV revenue alone to support most of the other athletic programs.

You'd be surprised how many "frat boys" do go to kent or Akron to be able to go to football games each weekend. Having a football team also pushes the topic of a strong Greek system too- as games are typical outings and ways to show pride. Obviously we would be a MAC type team at best, but I'm sure we would beat the attendance figures of neighboring teams such as Akron, kent, ysu with a city of 400k+ having a college team of their own.

I would be very surprised if there was any significant, direct correlation.  Just because they attend the games once enrolled does not mean they picked the school to be able to do so.

Even as a minor draw it would still be light years ahead of the current nothingness on Saturday afternoons.  And football may not be anyone's #1 reason for going to Kent or Akron, but that's not the only way for a program to have value.  It could still be a strong positive factor for a lot of people.  Akron just built a new staduim and hired a "name" coach for a team that's been an absolute joke for years.  If football didn't work for mid-major programs, there wouldn't be so much of it out there. 

Let's get back to construction projects, or at least the preparations needed for them.

You've taken classes there?

 

Classes, meetings, etc., yeah I've spent a lot of time in that building.  It's not terrible, I'm just not a big fan of many of the odd shapes that occur within the building (including the way they affect some of the rooms) that accommodate the exterior.  I think CSU needs to try to be a little more traditional in how it has their buildings designed, but that's just me.

While this isn't related to any specific project, I was wondering if there's an overall master plan for growth at CSU?  How much property they own; growth/development plans? 

While this isn't related to any specific project, I was wondering if there's an overall master plan for growth at CSU?  How much property they own; growth/development plans? 

 

Yes, it's been posted somewhere within the 105 pages of this thread. Think you can find it? ;)

While this isn't related to any specific project, I was wondering if there's an overall master plan for growth at CSU?  How much property they own; growth/development plans? 

 

http://www.csuohio.edu/offices/architect/

And specifically.....

http://www.csuohio.edu/offices/architect/MP_MASTER.pptx

Webcam for the construction on Chester

 

http://www.csuohio.edu/offices/architect/webcam/studenthouse.html

The three architects vying for the New Center for Health Innovations building have released some early conceptual renderings:

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2012/10/three_firms_air_competing_prop.html#incart_river_default

Can't see them very well on the phone but I dont care for the first of the three pictures- looks very plain.  I do really like the third one, it goes well across from the student center

Not thrilled with the Pelli design at all... the second 2 from NBBJ are interesting... and I like the HOK design for using a color besides clear.

I talked to the local partner of HOK for an article and was very impressed. Didn't know what to expect based on what he said about historic/progressive balance, but I certainly see it now.

 

http://www.csucauldron.com/news/viking-hall-wolfe-building-to-be-demolished-1.2917097#.UHB3XWt5mK2

 

I also like the first and third NBBJ proposals...I have a hunch that their amoeba proposal is the favorite.

they need to level the entire block not just leave Rascal house and peabody's there in front of an shinny new building.

they need to level the entire block not just leave Rascal house and peabody's there in front of an shinny new building.

 

What's wrong with them? It's a nice red brick building. Contrast. Euclid is a historic district, give me a break, you can't have acquisition for the sake of demolition. If the RH needs to be acquired to grow the health mission of CSU and the NEOMED program, so be it, but otherwise that's irresponsible and destructive.

 

I don't know the story of the Jewish nonprofit building on the south side of Euclid, but that is truly the last remaining blight on that side of Euclid. Nothing against Jewish nonprofits, just abandoned ugly 60s-era buildings.

^It's an Edward Durell Stone-designed building; while it's not my favorite building, demolition would be a crime.

 

so this is ok?

 

 

 

 

so this is ok?

 

 

I friggin' love that! If we're going to have window-less walls in this city, then that's a great way to make them unique to this city! I love that kind of urban messyness!

 

so this is ok?

 

It's more than OK. It's perfect.