59 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

MONDAY, JUNE 29, 2020

CSU starts process for skyline-altering master plan

 

A lot can change in just six years. That's especially true when it comes to a university that's continuing to make the transition from a regional commuter school to more of a nationally prominent residential institution.

And when that university is also trying to reconfigure its athlethic facilities, privatize its parking and capitalize on Cleveland's international standing as a medical center, then it's time to take a fresh look at its campus.

So Cleveland State University (CSU) has issued a request for qualifications from urban planning and design firms to create an updated master plan for what is currently an 85-acre campus. According to the Dodge Reports, CSU is requesting qualifications for planning services to be submitted by 2 p.m. July 24 to Jeremiah Swetel, CSU's executive director of facility services.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/06/csu-starts-process-for-skyline-altering.html

 

12 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

I hope the plan includes capping a few sections of the Innerbelt, preferably Prospect to Chester - how nice would that be?

 

The focus on medical programs is spot on - build from the regions strengths. 
 

CSU has so much potential - it’s the only state school in Ohio that is in a proper, big city downtown. (Sorry UA, downtown Akron just isn’t in the same tier, even though it has made steps in the right direction more recently.) Appealing to Ohio students who want to be downtown, not just within city limits, is a great target demographic. The other great opportunity for CSU is in the arts, for many of the same reasons. How many theatre schools have joint facilities with two resident regional theatre companies and the number one touring Broadway location in the country (Playhouse Square)?

 

Good point about the arts program. CSU needs to up their game there. They've got the facilities, not the program yet. They need a George Szell or Forrest Faison-type leader to give it prominence and focus.

Edited June 29, 20204 yr by KJP

11 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

. The other great opportunity for CSU is in the arts, for many of the same reasons. How many theatre schools have joint facilities with two resident regional theatre companies and the number one touring Broadway location in the country (Playhouse Square)?

Oh yeah, and Tom Hanks started his professional career at one of those regional theatre companies. 
 

It kinda makes me wish BW’s theatre department would move downtown. They actually have the alumni network worthy of PHS. Hopefully CSU can get there - they are headed the right direction. 

20 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

^My wish list:

- Cap I-90 from Prospect to Chester

- Replace Wolstein Center w smaller b-ball only arena w better street presence along Prospect and E18 OR E21, with remaining space dedicated to housing

- New 300-400 foot tower. This IS UrbanOhio, after all

- Accommodation for future Streetcar / Light Rail along Euclid and/or Prospect and E22

I think ODOT would be receptive to bridge caps through the corridor if and only if Campus District or CSU agreed to take on maintenance responsibility.  
 

And a once in a generation opportunity is coming up to change the status quo, so I hope someone is pushing for this.

 

I’m excited about the possibilities that a new CSU master plan might recommend. A vibrant CSU is a win-win for Cleveland as it moves towards being a national and even international draw. I would hate to ever lose the Rhodes Tower, though - the second tallest educational tower in the U.S. has become very familiar on the eastern edge of the downtown skyline.  I get how it’s removal would be skyline-altering (negatively) but how would it’s renovation achieve the same?  Here’s to a new tower of 40O feet coming in that master plan and supplementing Rhodes!

Edited June 29, 20204 yr by CleveFan

Just going to dork out on parcels for a hot minute- Wolstein Center is actually on top of like 50 parcels. They were never consolidated when they built it.

 

And with that, everyone can continue with their regular banter.

 

Also to @Boomerang_Brian's post- I know it's not theatre, but I mentor a young adult in their film school and pre-covid he showed us around- what an AMAZING space (also their fitness center is one of (if not) the best downtown ?)! I love that CSU is gaining a fantastic reputation...

Edited June 30, 20204 yr by GISguy

https://www.crainscleveland.com/rachel-mccafferty-blog/cleveland-state-forms-groups-work-csu-20

 

Crain's article on CSU.  @KJP's scoop was much more detailed.  A few notes.

 

*The author called it a "CSU 2.0 plan" although I'm not sure if that it was CSU is officially calling it.

*There will be lots of community interaction including towns halls and eventually a "CSU 2.0 webpage"

*Final recommendations are expected by Nov. 16

Edited July 22, 20204 yr by cle_guy90

^ I'll have to attend as an alumnus to protest against an proposed inclusion of new front lawns. They have done alright around that lately with Euclid Commons and the Engineering school... but then there was the med school with the absurd setbacks not only on Euclid, but Prospect too. Half a city block of wasted space...

Sometimes it feels like the powers that be at CSU want it to have some of the flavor of a Kent State -with sprawling lawns for students to walk across.  CSU should fully embrace its status as a downtown urban University   (which makes it attractive - particularly as the city core continues to become more dynamic and pedestrian friendly ) in all planning  and building design going forward.  They don’t need setbacks for lawns.  From what KJP wrote in his late June article, there are big plans for CSU’s future - I hope there are many voices consistent  with @PoshSteve’s post above.  And I’ll take a new 350’ tower as part of it! 

Edited July 22, 20204 yr by CleveFan

And if there are setbacks- they shouldn't be lawns they should be urban gardens, native wildflowers, pollinator beds, etc. not just wasted lawn. Wishful thinking...

 

Supposedly some big, "exciting" announcements coming in tomorrow's "State of the University Address" at 11 a.m. on Cleveland State's facebook and youtube. This follows an email two days ago from President Sands, to students, regarding a Crain's article on CSU being the center of investment in the region for the post Covid-era.

21 hours ago, kevincle said:

Supposedly some big, "exciting" announcements coming in tomorrow's "State of the University Address" at 11 a.m. on Cleveland State's facebook and youtube. This follows an email two days ago from President Sands, to students, regarding a Crain's article on CSU being the center of investment in the region for the post Covid-era.

No big infrastructure or campus redesign news but Sands said they are continuing to follow CSU 2.0 initiative. Overall just double downing on student success, enrollment and producing graduates with skills that will stay in and benefit the region. 

Yeah, well I suppose that stuff is important, too. 😉

Thanks for the update @kevincle

Student enrolment is definitely an economic driver, so the more the better.  

There is a huge infrastructure component to this -- they're going to need to put that increased enrollment somewhere. And I just heard where!! 🙂 🙂 

 

 

Exciting. I had heard a rumor CSU is itching to develop the, what they call, Number 50 and 54 Parking Lots, south of Payne directly behind the Langston. That could make sense since housing is right there already, albeit off-campus housing.  

This may be somewhat off topic- but if CSU builds on those lots, there will have to be a greater campus police presence on Payne.  I haven't been down Payne during school hours- but there have been folks who congregate on the tree lawn of the lots and at the Campus International School door that faces Payne.  I don't know if its a family shelter or just a shelter for women- but the shelter faces the parking lots.

 

I know this is the city and that shelters have existed downtown in different locations.  I just remember feeling uneasy about seeing the folks who were at the shelter and congregating in front of Campus International specifically, due to potential mental health issues and the new school having children on campus.  

I think that having something else happening along that stretch of Payne would go a long way towards making the atmosphere feel a little safer, though.

 

But yeah, this is probably going off topic.

On 10/29/2020 at 3:15 PM, KJP said:

There is a huge infrastructure component to this -- they're going to need to put that increased enrollment somewhere. And I just heard where!! 🙂 🙂 

 

 

Any update on when the bomb drops KJP?

3 hours ago, MikeyB440 said:

Any update on when the bomb drops KJP?

 

May take a while.  Looks like it's going to have to wait for CSU's masterplan process to work itself out. But suffice it to say, someone out there reeeeally wants to develop the site of the Wolstein Center!

4 hours ago, KJP said:

 

May take a while.  Looks like it's going to have to wait for CSU's masterplan process to work itself out. But suffice it to say, someone out there reeeeally wants to develop the site of the Wolstein Center!

I know it’s way too early but, assuming the Wolstein goes bye-bye, where does a new arena go? It would be nice to have it over by the rest of the athletic facilities, but there isn’t much room over there.

1 hour ago, Ineffable_Matt said:

I know it’s way too early but, assuming the Wolstein goes bye-bye, where does a new arena go? It would be nice to have it over by the rest of the athletic facilities, but there isn’t much room over there.

I agree. I think it could actually even be a potential attendance boost to have it at or near Gateway. Not sure where though

4 hours ago, Ineffable_Matt said:

I know it’s way too early but, assuming the Wolstein goes bye-bye, where does a new arena go? It would be nice to have it over by the rest of the athletic facilities, but there isn’t much room over there.

I could imagine a smaller Wolstein design with apartments built around it up to the street.

6 hours ago, tykaps said:

I could imagine a smaller Wolstein design with apartments built around it up to the street.

 

The last CSU masterplan mentioned that very idea, referencing CWRU's DiSanto Field and the adjacent Village at 115. 

This may be different from most views, but here it is anyways.   

 

I certainly don't want to see a typical campus style build-out of CSU, with a bunch of one to four story buildings scattered around downtown... like Westlake.  This is not just an 'inner city' college, but it's a downtown/CBD college and its designs and build should reflect as much, IMO.  Also, i'd rather not see the Wolstein Center demolished for a sprawling housing/small apartment style build.  They've got enough "suburban" style development downtown already, its time to start building "CBD" style buildings now.  Lastly, id also like to see some of their new builds be interactive on the first floor, some commercial space that is pedestrian friendly... just like we expect of the parking garages... I feel like most of their campus, that's in downtown(except for maybe a small strip right by the Lumen, if that's even theirs), is not friendly to anyone but their students.  That leaves a 'dead zone' when exploring downtown.

 

I'm excited for the growth and potential, I just want to see it be done cohesively with the rest of downtown.

47 minutes ago, NR said:

This may be different from most views, but here it is anyways.   

 

I certainly don't want to see a typical campus style build-out of CSU, with a bunch of one to four story buildings scattered around downtown... like Westlake.  This is not just an 'inner city' college, but it's a downtown/CBD college and its designs and build should reflect as much, IMO.  Also, i'd rather not see the Wolstein Center demolished for a sprawling housing/small apartment style build.  They've got enough "suburban" style development downtown already, its time to start building "CBD" style buildings now.  Lastly, id also like to see some of their new builds be interactive on the first floor, some commercial space that is pedestrian friendly... just like we expect of the parking garages... I feel like most of their campus, that's in downtown(except for maybe a small strip right by the Lumen, if that's even theirs), is not friendly to anyone but their students.  That leaves a 'dead zone' when exploring downtown.

 

I'm excited for the growth and potential, I just want to see it be done cohesively with the rest of downtown.

 

Agreed.   If anything, there is space to build AROUND the Wolstein Center and leave it there.  The venue is less than 30 years old and still in fine shape. (disclaimer:  I graduated from CSU on its stage, so I do have a personal connection).   

 

Much like Burke Lakefront, Wolstein Center is an underutilized asset that CSU and the city should be pushing to our economic advantage but they are stuck in their bureaucratic box.  It would be well suited as a sound stage for movies, rehearsal space for concert tours, etc.  It just needs to be aggressively marketed as such and priced to compete.   

I heard that the Crunch indoor soccer team will be returning next year.  Perhaps they will use Wolstein Center for their games where they played previously.

The Wolstein Center is not properly sized. It’s too big to compete for smaller events and too small to compete for bigger events. CSU has not invested enough in their Vikings basketball program to get it to the sell out era of the 80s-early 90s. It’s old, tired, and outdated. It NEEDS to be replaced. Leaving it alone and just building around it doesn’t address the reason why the school is losing, what, over a million a year on the Wolstein? It’s not attractive as an arena for the reasons I just said. I would never book anything there, and there’s a lot of events (pre-Covid of course) that would just pass over it. If you have the money to get a big venue, you’d rather be at RMFH because of the prestige (that’s our MSG). And for the smaller events/acts, you’re not gonna go there because they don’t give any guarantees on the tickets like other arenas so you’re gonna lose money, and it’s still expensive to book there even though it’s prohibitive to actually make your money back, and, again, it’s too big for mid-sized/small events/acts. So those folks choose to either go to HOB or Masonic or one of the Playhouse Square theatres. Wolstein is not sustainable at its current state. It needs to be torn down and rebuilt. (I’d prefer for it to be closer to Gateway but if not, it still needs to be rebuilt). As far as the housing around it, I don’t really care if it’s “suburban” style or not. I want “nice”, so it doesn’t matter to me if it’s CBD housing (which technically that location is not IN the CBD but whatever) or “suburban” style. I don’t care. I want CSU to grow and I want the area to be full of college students

13 minutes ago, inlovewithCLE said:

The Wolstein Center is not properly sized. It’s too big to compete for smaller events and too small to compete for bigger events. 

In other words, it's the only venue of its size in Cleveland.  A good position to be in to market your niche.  

 

15 minutes ago, inlovewithCLE said:

And for the smaller events/acts, you’re not gonna go there because they don’t give any guarantees on the tickets like other arenas so you’re gonna lose money, and it’s still expensive to book there even though it’s prohibitive to actually make your money back, and, again, it’s too big for mid-sized/small events/acts. So those folks choose to either go to HOB or Masonic or one of the Playhouse Square theatres. 

 

Guarantees are paid by promoters, not venues (unless the venue is also the promoter, as occasionally happens with Playhouse Square).   

 

16 minutes ago, inlovewithCLE said:

Wolstein is not sustainable at its current state. It needs to be torn down and rebuilt. (I’d prefer for it to be closer to Gateway but if not, it still needs to be rebuilt).

 

What would the "new" Wolstein center look like to you in terms size, capacity, etc?  

9 minutes ago, Cleburger said:

In other words, it's the only venue of its size in Cleveland.  A good position to be in to market your niche.  

 

 

Guarantees are paid by promoters, not venues (unless the venue is also the promoter, as occasionally happens with Playhouse Square).   

 

 

What would the "new" Wolstein center look like to you in terms size, capacity, etc?  

1. If it was in a good position to market its niche, it wouldn’t be losing a million dollars a year pre-Covid.

 

2. “[Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse] which has 20,000 seats and is located within walking distance of downtown hotels and restaurants, is willing to close off parts of the building for acts and also guarantees payment in advance of the show, which CSU doesn’t want to do because it could lead to financial losses, she said.“ My comment stands. (https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2013/09/cleveland_state_universitys_wo.html)

 

3. it’s over 10,000 now. It seems like half of that would make the most sense.

I want to make this clear too, even if they kept it at the same capacity, it’s still old, outdated and needs to be replaced. The fact that it’s too big on top of that just makes that point even clearer. Especially when CSU apparently isn’t prepared or willing to make the necessary investment in the Vikings to make the Wolstein sell out again. And even if they did, they could just play at RMFH too. So the arena is old, the concessions are old, the VIP sections (where arenas make a good amount of money) are old, the whole arena is old and outdated. So even if they kept the same capacity (which they shouldn’t), it STILL needs to be torn down and rebuilt 

1 hour ago, inlovewithCLE said:

1. If it was in a good position to market its niche, it wouldn’t be losing a million dollars a year pre-Covid.

 

2. “[Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse] which has 20,000 seats and is located within walking distance of downtown hotels and restaurants, is willing to close off parts of the building for acts and also guarantees payment in advance of the show, which CSU doesn’t want to do because it could lead to financial losses, she said.“ My comment stands. (https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2013/09/cleveland_state_universitys_wo.html)

 

3. it’s over 10,000 now. It seems like half of that would make the most sense.

When you said 10,000 I thought no way is it that big because that is where we had my high school graduation.  I looked it up and does seat 13600 and 15000 for concerts.  I think the problem is that it could host decently large events with that size but we already have the much nicer Quicken Loans.  I agree a 5-6k arena would be about the right size and would be under what Cleveland Public Auditorium is at 10k.  

 

I also agree with the sediment of just getting students downtown but at the same time we don't want to get it wrong.  So like others I hope whatever is built is fitting for a downtown.  

 

Interesting tidbit - Fifth Arena in Cincinnati underwent a 87 million dollar renovation to decrease their capacity from 13,176 to 12,012 and the basketball program there is just slightly better than CSU 😉

Edited November 2, 20204 yr by cle_guy90

1 hour ago, inlovewithCLE said:

1. If it was in a good position to market its niche, it wouldn’t be losing a million dollars a year pre-Covid.

 

2. “[Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse] which has 20,000 seats and is located within walking distance of downtown hotels and restaurants, is willing to close off parts of the building for acts and also guarantees payment in advance of the show, which CSU doesn’t want to do because it could lead to financial losses, she said.“ My comment stands. (https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2013/09/cleveland_state_universitys_wo.html)

 

3. it’s over 10,000 now. It seems like half of that would make the most sense.

Are there collegiate regional and/or other national events that might not necessarily need a Rocket Field House but could be attracted to a new modernized arena at CSU?  Or is that a “niche” that doesn’t really exist ? Perhaps any real regional or national events would need something on the scale of RMFH. So that would be my main concern about scaling Wolstein down so  much. The other concern would be to not limit possible  future growth of the sports program, particularly basketball at CSU.  Especially when sports  programs can directly and indirectly influence more expansive  academic program, recruitments and the general perception of an  academic institution. 

1 minute ago, CleveFan said:

Are there collegiate regional and/or other national events that might not necessarily need a Rocket Field House but could be attracted to a new modernized arena at CSU?  Or is that a “niche” that doesn’t really exist ? Perhaps any real regional or national events would need something on the scale of RMFH. So that would be my main concern about scaling Wolstein down so  much. The other concern would be to not limit possible  future growth of the sports program, particularly basketball at CSU.  Especially when sports  programs can directly and indirectly influence more expansive  academic program, recruitments and the general perception of an  academic institution. 

That niche doesn’t really exist, not in Cleveland. Because we have RMFH, and other venues for smaller events. And like I mentioned earlier, some would just rather have the prestige of being in RMFH. I do understand your hesitancy as far as the sports program. My counter to that would be though that A: CSU has shown no desire to make the necessary investments to make the program grow (I think they should but that’s a different conversation for another day) and B: if that ever changes, they can play at RMFH too. Other college programs play at their major league arenas 

2 hours ago, CleveFan said:

Are there collegiate regional and/or other national events that might not necessarily need a Rocket Field House but could be attracted to a new modernized arena at CSU?  Or is that a “niche” that doesn’t really exist ? 

 

I know that with the MAC tournament much of the allure for players is the mystique of playing on that NBA court. 

On 11/2/2020 at 6:36 PM, surfohio said:

 

I know that with the MAC tournament much of the allure for players is the mystique of playing on that NBA court. 

Perhaps a D2 or D3 tourney. But definitely not D1. 

 

But I'm in team redevelop. With the highway right there it could add to the gateway to that area. Same goes for those stupid parking lots on E. 14 behind PHQ.

On 11/2/2020 at 4:09 PM, inlovewithCLE said:

That niche doesn’t really exist, not in Cleveland. Because we have RMFH, and other venues for smaller events. And like I mentioned earlier, some would just rather have the prestige of being in RMFH. I do understand your hesitancy as far as the sports program. My counter to that would be though that A: CSU has shown no desire to make the necessary investments to make the program grow (I think they should but that’s a different conversation for another day) and B: if that ever changes, they can play at RMFH too. Other college programs play at their major league arenas 

 

The niche doesn't exist because Cleveland tends to not think outside the box.  

RMFH is a great facility, but you'd never be able to rent it for 6 weeks straight to use as a soundstage for a major film.  Or rehearse an international concert tour. 

 

As with Burke Lakefront and downtown airports, there are very few cities in North America with a secondary arena in the downtown central business district, in walking distance to hotels, restaurants and culture.   This is a huge selling point....CSU and city leaders just need to learn to market it.  

Or maybe nobody has downtown airports or secondary arenas because they aren't particularly good ideas in any market.

18 hours ago, X said:

Or maybe nobody has downtown airports or secondary arenas because they aren't particularly good ideas in any market.

 

Perhaps you're right.  But in a city with a shrinking population trying to compete on the national stage, it's best to market the things that set us apart, rather than tear down a perfectly good 30 year old building and wait for SIM city to happen.  

I am going to assume that if they have come to this decision, they explored all other avenues.  I would think they would want to keep the investment if it was worth it and not redo things just to redo them. 

 

 

On 11/2/2020 at 4:09 PM, inlovewithCLE said:

That niche doesn’t really exist, not in Cleveland. Because we have RMFH, and other venues for smaller events. And like I mentioned earlier, some would just rather have the prestige of being in RMFH. I do understand your hesitancy as far as the sports program. My counter to that would be though that A: CSU has shown no desire to make the necessary investments to make the program grow (I think they should but that’s a different conversation for another day) and B: if that ever changes, they can play at RMFH too. Other college programs play at their major league arenas 

One advantage of having their own facility is that it gives CSU better flexibility for scheduling events.  RMFH is home for the Cavs, Monsters, concerts, circus, ice shows, etc. so it might be a challenge for CSU to get choice dates/times for their events.  

54 minutes ago, skiwest said:

 

One advantage of having their own facility is that it gives CSU better flexibility for scheduling events.  RMFH is home for the Cavs, Monsters, concerts, circus, ice shows, etc. so it might be a challenge for CSU to get choice dates/times for their events.  

I think they’ll get by with a more modest arena though.  Of the major concerts I’ve seen at Wolstein (Avenged Sevenfold, Miranda Lambert - don’t judge my taste in music 😂), the arena was still half full.  An arena that can seat 6,500 can easily accommodate 8,000 for a concert.

 

FRIDAY, MARCH 19, 2021

CSU starts campus masterplan process

 

As first reported here at NEOtrans last summer, Cleveland State University (CSU) began a search for a consultant to help it design a new downtown campus masterplan. That consultant has been found, with CSU hiring Boston-based Sasaki Associates Inc.

 

The firm has many campus master-planning efforts on its curriculum vitae. They include for Case Western Reserve University, the Nord Family Greenway in University Circle, Euclid Avenue Healthline Bus Rapid Transit, Lorain Community College buildings in Elyria and North Ridgeville, among many other credits in the USA and around the world.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/03/csu-starts-campus-masterplan-process.html

With the re-emergence of the CSU Men's basketball program and the return of the Crunch soccer team (which is searching for a home), the Wolstein Center's future is not looking so bleak.

 

Edited March 19, 20214 yr by skiwest

1 hour ago, skiwest said:

With the re-emergence of the CSU Men's basketball program and the return of the Crunch soccer team (which is searching for a home), the Wolstein Center's future is not looking so bleak.

 

I am hoping that Wolstein Center stays. 13,000 seat arenas just don't grow on trees. Sure would be nice to make more use of it.

Bring back the WNBA Cleveland Rockers and put them at the Wolstein.

If it makes financial sense, then they could keep Wolstein and still have a lot of room to develop dorms all the way around it.

Agreed X. It looks like there is plenty of room to put a building (or tower) or two or three on various sides.

 

Is the Greyhound facility a landmark? Hoping that art deco beauty can't be torn down.

15 hours ago, simplythis said:

I am hoping that Wolstein Center stays. 13,000 seat arenas just don't grow on trees. Sure would be nice to make more use of it.

Bring back the WNBA Cleveland Rockers and put them at the Wolstein.

I would think that the money that would be needed to demolish and build a new, but smaller facility (as that has been mentioned) would be better spent elsewhere else for the college's needs.  Would the price tag fall in the $500 million range to do just that?  It would be one thing if the facility were in poor shape, but it isn't.  There isn't a lack of other space that can be redeveloped near the campus.

 

The indoor soccer team needs a facility.  One of the problems that indoor soccer faced was that the various indoor soccer leagues had troubles scheduling games around the schedules of the NBA, NHL and other big attendance drawing events.  In many cases, they were stuck with the "leftover" open dates.  Should the WNBA return to Cleveland, it could call Wostein home as well.

 

I know that Wolstein was purposely designed to not include ice-making capability, but what would it cost to add it the facility?  In that way it could even have an increased value to the area at a far lesser cost than building a new smaller facility.

2 minutes ago, mas1092 said:

Is the Greyhound facility a landmark? Hoping that art deco beauty can't be torn down.

I think the Greyhould facility has been designated as a landmark.

19 hours ago, KJP said:

 

FRIDAY, MARCH 19, 2021

CSU starts campus masterplan process

 

As first reported here at NEOtrans last summer, Cleveland State University (CSU) began a search for a consultant to help it design a new downtown campus masterplan. That consultant has been found, with CSU hiring Boston-based Sasaki Associates Inc.

 

The firm has many campus master-planning efforts on its curriculum vitae. They include for Case Western Reserve University, the Nord Family Greenway in University Circle, Euclid Avenue Healthline Bus Rapid Transit, Lorain Community College buildings in Elyria and North Ridgeville, among many other credits in the USA and around the world.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/03/csu-starts-campus-masterplan-process.html

Someone who apparently works at the RoMoFiHo in concert events posted this as a response to Ken’s article:

 

“Wolstein Center was built with no docks for trucks, what show, concert or event wants to rent a venue where loading and unloading is close to impossible.”

“[Decisions made] 30+ years ago but still amazingly short-sighted. Working at Rocket Mortgage Feildhouse we hear of 'events' that decided to go elsewhere all the time. “

 

This seems so odd. Is anyone familiar with those details? What would it take to modify the Wolstein to work better for concerts and events? I agree that it would be silly to tear it down and replace it. I like the idea of ringing it with student residential. 
 

Also, VERY glad to hear Sasaki is doing the master plan. I like what I’ve seen from them. Hopefully transit becomes part of the plan.