September 5, 201212 yr A little update on the Langston and CSU in general. I'm now a junior here, and I have never seen campus this busy after school hours. It's a great sight to see. From An occupancy perspective, and my sources are credible due to the fact that I'm currently shopping around for an apartment, the Langston is completely full already. This includes the buildings still under construction which have a waiting list. Fenn tower, Euclid commons, and Heritage Hall are all 100% full. Walker, 1900, university lofts, university studios all have waiting lists as well. Reserve and Chesterfield have a couple rooms open, but that's it. I know a few people who are starting to move into the western part of Asiatown. Just a hunch, but from what I'm seeing, look at Asiatown as the direction in which CSU's residential population will begin to expand instead of North towards the lake. I predict that area will stay artists and professionals. Either way, let's get to building! That's great to hear! Keep us updated. Having sold out units is a good problem to have as long as those waiting for housing don't have to wait too long to get it.
September 5, 201212 yr Why are the light poles in the middle of the sidewalk? These aren't suppose to be architecturally stunning, they are to fit a purpose. They look very similar to campus construction I've seen in other cities. I"m not saying they couldn't have done something different , but this looks on par to other developments. Let hope this brings more business to the area to service those living in these and surrounding units.
September 5, 201212 yr T A little update on the Langston and CSU in general. I'm now a junior here, and I have never seen campus this busy after school hours. It's a great sight to see. From An occupancy perspective, and my sources are credible due to the fact that I'm currently shopping around for an apartment, the Langston is completely full already. This includes the buildings still under construction which have a waiting list. Fenn tower, Euclid commons, and Heritage Hall are all 100% full. Walker, 1900, university lofts, university studios all have waiting lists as well. Reserve and Chesterfield have a couple rooms open, but that's it. I know a few people who are starting to move into the western part of Asiatown. Just a hunch, but from what I'm seeing, look at Asiatown as the direction in which CSU's residential population will begin to expand instead of North towards the lake. I predict that area will stay artists and professionals. Either way, let's get to building! That's GREAT news! Let's hope more follows (including more retail)!
September 5, 201212 yr Well, I can tell CSU is back in session. Downtown and the buses to/from/within it seem more jammed with people today! Did I hear CSU has its largest freshman class ever? I don't think they could build apartments downtown fast enough. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 6, 201212 yr Well, I can tell CSU is back in session. Downtown and the buses to/from/within it seem more jammed with people today! Did I hear CSU has its largest freshman class ever? I don't think they could build apartments downtown fast enough. I cannot resist. Let this be my one snarky post and I'll remain polite for the rest of my existence. My how quickly you forget. I could've sworn I remember some people on here saying that CSU would "ALWAYS remain a commuter school".... :-P CSU welcomes its biggest freshman class :clap:
September 6, 201212 yr A little update on the Langston and CSU in general. I'm now a junior here, and I have never seen campus this busy after school hours. It's a great sight to see. From An occupancy perspective, and my sources are credible due to the fact that I'm currently shopping around for an apartment, the Langston is completely full already. This includes the buildings still under construction which have a waiting list. Fenn tower, Euclid commons, and Heritage Hall are all 100% full. Walker, 1900, university lofts, university studios all have waiting lists as well. Reserve and Chesterfield have a couple rooms open, but that's it. I know a few people who are starting to move into the western part of Asiatown. Just a hunch, but from what I'm seeing, look at Asiatown as the direction in which CSU's residential population will begin to expand instead of North towards the lake. I predict that area will stay artists and professionals. Either way, let's get to building! I went walking there about 8:00 or so tonight, and it was downright busy with students wandering around. The busiest I've seen! Great to hear about the waiting lists, hopefully the rest of the development planned for North Campus gets going quickly, and more gets planned. I've felt all along that even CSU's "ambitious" plans were lowballing the demand for Downtown/campus living.
September 6, 201212 yr It is impressive to see how fast those things are going up. I think the middle building is already up 3 floors!
September 6, 201212 yr I do think that this is the largest resident freshman class in history. They had to turn down people who applied for the dorms.
September 6, 201212 yr Largest ever freshman class, not just resident freshmen: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/08/csu_welcomes_its_biggest_fresh.html
September 6, 201212 yr Well, I can tell CSU is back in session. Downtown and the buses to/from/within it seem more jammed with people today! Did I hear CSU has its largest freshman class ever? I don't think they could build apartments downtown fast enough. I cannot resist. Let this be my one snarky post and I'll remain polite for the rest of my existence. My how quickly you forget. I could've sworn I remember some people on here saying that CSU would "ALWAYS remain a commuter school".... :-P CSU welcomes its biggest freshman class :clap: Don't worry. I won't remember your promise to be polite either. ;) One of the best parts about getting older is that you can read yesterday's newspaper again today, and it seems just as fresh. Same as it will be tomorrow. ;) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 7, 201212 yr Langston building one has 48 units according to the video. Video from Action 19: http://www.19actionnews.com/category/240218/video-landing-page?clipId=7650974&autostart=true Very active facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/TheLangstonApts
September 7, 201212 yr Campus is definitely buzzing. I would wager that Euclid in the Campus District might have the second highest daytime pedestrian activity in downtown, right after Public Square/Lower Euclid. Granted, a great deal of it is probably "car-to-class", but as a 2005 graduate, I can attest that this is LIGHT YEARS beyond the pedestrian activity when I was there, despite a pretty similar sized student population. As a P.S., Becky's was PACKED last night at 9 p.m. ... like the most packed I've ever seen it, with 20 or so people standing around outside the door.
September 16, 201212 yr ^,^^ While I love that we have 2+ (I suppose I should be included as well) APAer's in the room, that's not completely fair. Thursday is trivia night at Becky's so while Team APA was there (we got 2nd!), there were many other teams too. It's always packed on Thursdays. That being said come to Thirsty Thursdays!
September 19, 201212 yr Say goodbye to these buildings..... DOWNTOWN/FLATS DESIGN REVIEW DF2012-086 – Viking Hall and Wolfe Music Building proposed demolitions Project Address: 2130 & 2112 Euclid Avenue Project Representative: Jack Baumann, CSU http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2012/09202012/index.php "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 19, 201212 yr Say goodbye to these buildings..... DOWNTOWN/FLATS DESIGN REVIEW DF2012-086 – Viking Hall and Wolfe Music Building proposed demolitions Project Address: 2130 & 2112 Euclid Avenue Project Representative: Jack Baumann, CSU http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2012/09202012/index.php I thought they were saving the facade of the Wolfe Music Building?
September 19, 201212 yr Say goodbye to these buildings..... DOWNTOWN/FLATS DESIGN REVIEW DF2012-086 Viking Hall and Wolfe Music Building proposed demolitions Project Address: 2130 & 2112 Euclid Avenue Project Representative: Jack Baumann, CSU http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2012/09202012/index.php Are these going to remain parking lots for some time?
September 20, 201212 yr Say goodbye to these buildings..... DOWNTOWN/FLATS DESIGN REVIEW DF2012-086 – Viking Hall and Wolfe Music Building proposed demolitions Project Address: 2130 & 2112 Euclid Avenue Project Representative: Jack Baumann, CSU http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2012/09202012/index.php Don't really mind Viking Hall leaving...it is fugly
September 20, 201212 yr I've never loved it, but since it's a tall residential structure downtown, I've never hated it either. That wall of windows makes its stretch of Prospect Avenue look a lot more urban than it otherwise would. As for the Wolfe building, that's just bad news period.
September 20, 201212 yr CSU to demolish 2 buildings for new Center for Innovation in Health ProfessionsPublished: Thursday, September 20, 2012, 12:10 PM Updated: Thursday, September 20, 2012, 12:33 PM By Karen Farkas, The Plain Dealer The Plain Dealer CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland State University's $45 million Center for Innovation in Health Professions will soon be under construction on Euclid Avenue at the site of the former Viking Hall dormitory and Wolfe Music Building. Concerns about demolishing the Wolfe structure had threatened to delay the project. The Cleveland Planning Commission is expected on Friday to approve the demolition of both buildings, after CSU reached an agreement with Councilman Jeff Johnson, who wanted to preserve the Wolfe building. The city's Design Review Board approved the action today. The university sold bonds in August to finance $35 million of the building's cost. The Northeast Ohio Medical University, which is partnering with CSU to train doctors focused on urban health and primary care, will contribute $10 million. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/09/cleveland_state_university_wil.html#incart_river_default
September 20, 201212 yr Sound like we're only two weeks from seeing some renderings! Hopefully some uoers can make it to the presentations.
September 21, 201212 yr I think they have 2 great choices and 1 very good choice. Pelli is very good, and so is HOK. The other firm is a decent sized office out of Columbus. This site is super interesting and while I agree the building itself doesnt have to be saved, with these designers, we could be due some very good urbanity. I look forward to seeing the 3 results. I hope we will get to see very specific plans! I would have gone to the presentation but I am out of the country.
September 21, 201212 yr Terrible site plan in my opinion. Whats with that frontage on Prospect? It also makes it appear that there will be some sort of parking garage there which is dumb. That building will raise demand for the nearly empty South Garage, which will still be half empty. Hopefully the actual individual designs are better than this. Someone needs to go that meeting and challenge them on these issues!
September 22, 201212 yr That is horrible, just horrible. How did it come to this? Does anyone else see the irony between CSU's campus and its claims to urban planning leadership? And we aren't talking about 1960s mistakes here-- this is 2012 aspirational! And the siding, oh the siding. Heavens to Betsy.
September 22, 201212 yr ^^^It's 2012 and people still say things are "retarded"? Way to show a little class. Edit: it's been corrected. Thank you.
September 22, 201212 yr I like that design. If Cleveland State is going to assert a presence south of Prospect (which it obviously already has), then I agree with the idea of orienting the CIHP building in that direction. Right now Prospect near CSU sort of feels like a glorified alleyway (with speeding motorists, of course). And of course the idea of a parking garage makes perfect sense. The South Garage is already getting pretty full certain days/times due to limited parking elsewhere on campus and the new parking fee scheme (I also think that there are some residents of Heritage Hall parking there overnight now, but I'm not 100% certain--however this appears to be a new issue that needs to be monitored).
September 22, 201212 yr Hard to believe this site plan means much if they haven't even selected the design firm, but that said, I agree it's pretty bad. Clevelander17, I'm not sure why you think it's oriented to Prospect...looks like garage entry and service lot back there to me. And wow do I loathe useless corner plazas.
September 22, 201212 yr ^One of the reason I asked where this "supposed" site plan came from since they have not even selected an architect yet.
September 25, 201212 yr The vacant Moes space on Euclid is going to be BURGERS 2 BEER-- as located in highland hts. Great news!!
September 25, 201212 yr The vacant Moes space on Euclid is going to be BURGERS 2 BEER-- as located in highland hts. Great news!! I've heard good things about the Highland Heights location. It will be good to see this site occupied again. And, it gives me another possible lunch destination.
September 25, 201212 yr i always thought those two bldgs have a good presence, so i want to see the renders. it needs to be a substantial structure. ^^^It's 2012 and people still say things are "retarded"? wellll, we have a new 'hipster' thread in 2012...soo!
September 25, 201212 yr The vacant Moes space on Euclid is going to be BURGERS 2 BEER-- as located in highland hts. Great news!! Huh. Thought I posted earlier. Subpar beer list and $14 bison burgers. Yayyy!
September 25, 201212 yr B2B > empty gaping storefront on campus. Also nice to have an establishment with alcohol by campus that isn't Becky's. or nasty bar UNO.
September 25, 201212 yr Where is an illustration of CSU's proposed life sciences building - to be constructed on the site of the former Holiday Inn and the Wolfe Music Building (unfortunately!....)?
September 25, 201212 yr There's a rough rendering upthread, but the 9/20/12 PD article posted above says they haven't settled on who's designing it yet.
September 27, 201212 yr Could someone post that rough drawing for the new building at Euclid and E. 22nd, please? Such a rush to tear down the Wolfe Music Building when the architect hasn't even been hired yet?? I'm very, very sorry to see the Wolfe Music Building go but at least I'd like to think a respectible building is to go up in its place. Sure feel this would have been a perfect argument for "Facadism" - where the terra cotta facade, restored of course, is incorporated into the new facade. Just the facade of the former music company building would be enough to retain this bit of history on the Avenue and one of Greater Cleveland's wonderful terra cotta facades. Wonder if it was ever considered.... Read more: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,10753.300.html#ixzz27hS3xj6N
September 27, 201212 yr ^^^ it's been mentioned several times that an architect has not yet been chosen, therefore there is no accurate rendering. I'm excited to see the wolf building go- its been the biggest eyesore on campus forever.
September 27, 201212 yr My satire meter says TILT... do you really find that building ugly? I think it's one of the best in town.
September 27, 201212 yr ^^ Are you being sarcastic?? All I know is that I don't know one CSU student that isn't happy to see it (and Viking hall!) go!!
September 27, 201212 yr ^Freshen up on this - http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,23836.0.html - so people don't think you are arguing with yourself ;) I think most people on this board are not in favor of the demolition of the Wolfe Music building, but would be complacent if they at least kept the facade and incorporated it into the new development somehow.
September 27, 201212 yr I have a substantial Euclid Avenue collection and am disgusted when anything from before WW II is removed. One exception, of course: the monstrosity that had been just to the west of Dunham Tavern. There had been some nice plans for renovating it but, other than that possibility, it was absolutely hideous. I know, I know - I digress from the purpose of this particular forum....
September 28, 201212 yr ^Freshen up on this - http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,23836.0.html - so people don't think you are arguing with yourself ;) I think most people on this board are not in favor of the demolition of the Wolfe Music building, but would be complacent if they at least kept the facade and incorporated it into the new development somehow. I'm quite aware, as I was involved in the discussion. :) I can see your point... But think realistically how it would fit in the campus. It doesn't. So it is for the better of the school, campus, potential students visiting campus that it is finally coming down. Everyone can have an opinion on this. I'm looking forward to finally seeing some renderings though.
September 28, 201212 yr It would well fit into the south side of Euclid Avenue part of the campus - going well with the other 1910s or 1920s buildings on that side. I'd just like to see that aforementioned rendering, even if the actual architect was not yet hired.
September 28, 201212 yr ^Just to clarify, there are NO recent renderings of the building in the sense you're thinking. The only thing we've seen is a conceptual site plan that ClevelandOhio pulled from the city planning commission: Terrible site plan in my opinion. Whats with that frontage on Prospect? It also makes it appear that there will be some sort of parking garage there which is dumb. That building will raise demand for the nearly empty South Garage, which will still be half empty. Hopefully the actual individual designs are better than this. Someone needs to go that meeting and challenge them on these issues!
September 28, 201212 yr You're right, it doesn't fit, because clearly CSU needs that space near the sidewalk for more grass. :wave: In partial defense of CLE618; I think we all know that a building can be both an eyesore and be deserving of being saved and restored. The big blank brick walls and a run down, boarded up, and rusting facade don't fit, but if a restored Wolfe facade doesn't fit neither does anything between the Wolfe Building and the Comfort Inn (AKA half of the buildings on the south side of Euclid in the campus zone).
September 28, 201212 yr ^^ I remember a picture, some time back, which I think was posted by Musky. Not sure. But it's on here.
Create an account or sign in to comment