February 18, 201312 yr ^I think they're trying to keep people from parking in the casino lot and then walking to the office. As long as they validate appropriately for patrons, parking fees shouldn't be an issue.
February 18, 201312 yr Yeah, if Horseshoe actually expects to charge their customers for parking, I expect the majority of Cincinnati suburbanites to continue visiting the Indiana casinos.
February 18, 201312 yr I don't think it will last. I sort of, kinda remember the Indiana casinos charging for parking when they first opened. Now it's just for valet. I guess they do need to prevent residents from turning it into their own personal lot.
February 18, 201312 yr What Greektown in Detroit used to do is you'd have to go inside with your parking ticket and simply go to a machine to validate it without paying a dime. That way, you'd go inside the casino and be 'tempted' yet wouldn't have to pay if you didn't want to. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 18, 201312 yr If you do any sort of gambling chances are you will park for free. It will be just like the Cleveland casino.
February 19, 201312 yr Wow. I really hate Cincinnati media. Parking rates announced today, free after 6 PM and on weekends. That stupid WCPO article freaked everyone out And for nothing.
February 19, 201312 yr Heaven forbid people might have to pay to use a large parking garage in a downtown area. It's a war on cars! It should be free like the parking lots that were there before! Oh wait...
February 19, 201312 yr Wow. I really hate Cincinnati media. Parking rates announced today, free after 6 PM and on weekends. That stupid WCPO article freaked everyone out And for nothing. Heaven forbid people might have to pay to use a large parking garage in a downtown area. It's a war on cars! It should be free like the parking lots that were there before! Oh wait... +2
February 19, 201312 yr just another reason to have a streetcar spur to the casino!! Shuttle/express Metro service from the streetcar stop close to Court and Main to the casino and on to Mount Adams could be huge. Service from 10pm-3am on Friday and Saturday nights isn't too much of an undertaking.
February 19, 201312 yr It takes me between 4-5 minutes 18min/mi to walk to the front door of the casino from the Streetcar stop at Court and Main (2 blocks) To put this in perspective how short of a walk this is, if you park in the rear 1/3 section of the casino main garage it is the same distance (2 blocks) to the main entrance as the streetcar stop. The outside most northeasterly parking lot is 3-4 blocks away from main entrance.
February 19, 201312 yr Given the discussion about the Casino's design, this is as good a place as any to drop the following link from today: http://www.soapboxmedia.com/features/021913cincycrit.aspx
July 10, 201311 yr Apparently the casino is either not charging for parking during the day, or not enforcing their rules. Several people that work at my company's new office, which is near the casino, have been parking there during the day and not having to pay.
July 10, 201311 yr Apparently the casino is either not charging for parking during the day, or not enforcing their rules. Several people that work at my company's new office, which is near the casino, have been parking there during the day and not having to pay. From the last email I received from them: ---- FREE PARKING ALL DAY. EVERY DAY. At Horseshoe Cincinnati we’re always looking to do more for the gambler and that’s why we now offer free parking all day, every day. Less hassle outside the door means more time for the exciting action inside the door. It’s just another way your loyalty gets rewarded at Horseshoe Cincinnati. ----
September 19, 201311 yr People under 21 will now have to be escorted by a state licensed employee if they want to go in the casino. That sounds fun. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/09/cincinnati_casino_must_chapero.html
October 2, 201311 yr Model Group rehabbing a bunch of buildings just north of the casino, however they bought them before the casino deal was finalized in 2009 so it's tough to say that the casino motivated this. 6 months and we're still waiting for a restaurant or other business of any kind to open near the casino. http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2013/10/02/26m-development-coming-near-horseshoe.html?s=image_gallery
October 2, 201311 yr ^New thread on that subject: Cincinnati: Pendleton: Broadway Square "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
October 3, 201311 yr Model Group rehabbing a bunch of buildings just north of the casino, however they bought them before the casino deal was finalized in 2009 so it's tough to say that the casino motivated this. 6 months and we're still waiting for a restaurant or other business of any kind to open near the casino. http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2013/10/02/26m-development-coming-near-horseshoe.html?s=image_gallery Don't forget that parking garage Subway! #eatfresh I ran by the Model Group buildings yesterday, that'll be a good addition.
June 17, 201410 yr There is some construction on Reading in front of the casino. It's hard to tell what they're building, but they have the area fenced off, there's a construction trailer and several pieces of construction equipment. Does anyone know what's going on?
June 17, 201410 yr Thanks for the reminder/update. I ran by last night and snapped this picture but forgot to post. "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
July 21, 201410 yr Horseshoe Casino Cincinnati expands Barrett J. BrunsmanStaff reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier Construction has begun on the foundation for an 8,700-square-foot expansion to the Horseshoe Casino in Cincinnati’s Pendleton neighborhood. The project will create a covered patio with a bar, which is expected to cater to smokers of tobacco. http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2014/07/21/horseshoe-casino-cincinnati-expands.html
July 21, 201410 yr Horseshoe Casino Cincinnati expands Barrett J. BrunsmanStaff reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier Construction has begun on the foundation for an 8,700-square-foot expansion to the Horseshoe Casino in Cincinnati’s Pendleton neighborhood. The project will create a covered patio with a bar, which is expected to cater to smokers of tobacco. http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2014/07/21/horseshoe-casino-cincinnati-expands.html Smart, cater to your customers.
July 8, 20159 yr Horseshoe Casino may charge office workers who now park for free Barrett J. Brunsman - Cincinnati Business Courier If you usually park for free in the Horseshoe Casino Cincinnati's garage before heading to the office to work, Friday probably won’t be your lucky day. The casino at 1000 Broadway reportedly will begin charging $10 a day on July 10. A casino website states that the “self-park garage is free 24/7 until further notice,” but Hamilton County employees were notified this afternoon that the Horseshoe will begin charging those without parking passes. A spokesperson for the casino didn’t immediately respond to a Business Courier request for comment on why such a change might be made. Cont "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
July 10, 20159 yr I disagree. Having that large parking garage free decreases the profitability of nearby parking lots, which encourages development on those lots.
July 10, 20159 yr I disagree. Having that large parking garage free decreases the profitability of nearby parking lots, which encourages development on those lots. I think you underestimate how insanely profitable all of the lots already are, even with one free garage. There will always be lots downtown (there are even in big Cities), but getting everyone to start paying more, and learning the true value/cost of driving and parking individually every day, has the ability to change the mindset for a few people. Plus, the second one lot gets turned into apartments the value of the lots around it will go up, and so will their pricing. So no matter what they are going to be making more, whether there is 1 free 2000 space garage or not. Additionally, what helped the lots profitablity more is that downtown meters go to 9PM now. That means $5 after 5 can move up to $8 after 5 and still be cheaper than parking on the street now. But in the end, I think a greater gain is people realizing paying to park every day to get to work is silly and expensive. That mindset is helpful for all urban planning/transportation efforts.
July 26, 20159 yr I was in Pendleton the other night and the casino had a very loud outdoor concert. That many decibels would devalue nearby residential property IMO
July 26, 20159 yr I disagree. Having that large parking garage free decreases the profitability of nearby parking lots, which encourages development on those lots. The simplest argument to counter that statement. Induced Demand.
July 26, 20159 yr I was in Pendleton the other night and the casino had a very loud outdoor concert. That many decibels would devalue nearby residential property IMO I have a number of friends in Pendleton who say they aren't bothered. It's similar to living next the ball park where every friday night has fireworks at 11PM. The concerts are 1-2 nights a month for the summer only. I'm sure it's a slight annoyance, but they aren't common enough to be too detrimental.
July 27, 20159 yr Danger Wheel occurred a couple weekends back on 12th & Broadway in Pendelton and a DJ played until at least 10:30. I don't believe there were any complaints. Living on the riverfront I clearly hear the Friday Night Fireworks, Sawyer Point/Yeatman's Cove concerts, even bands performing at The Beer Sellar. Cincinnati Parks rents out a tent at the Sawyer Point Roller Skating Rink for receptions, etc. Saturday night was a steady dose of wedding classics like "Love Shack" and "Play that Funky Music." Even still, property values are doing well. "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
August 5, 20159 yr Even if the casino doesn't spark any proximal development, it still offers residents and visitors alike something else to do in the city. It's employing something like 1,600 people, and adding revenue into the city and county coffers, which is sorely needed. The casino was the catalyst for getting ~$22 million worth of streetscape improvements and the installation of public art in Pendleton. These are all positive outcomes of having the casino here. Previous suggested uses for Broadway Commons would have also had their limitations. A ballpark sits empty for half the year, a big box retailer (remember when Ikea was being floated around as an idea for BC?) is just as insular, if not moreso than a casino, and doesn't bring the entertainment options that the casino does. If the Cincinnati casino can draw people down from Dayton, and up from Louisville and Lexington, we're talking about a market of about 5 million people...surely greater exposure to Cincinnati will be a good thing for the city. Does anyone know if all of the money given to Pendleton for streetscape improvements has been spent? As more development happens in Pendleton, it would be nice to redo the streetscape to match what was redone a few years ago with casino money. Alternatively, the city could use the tax abatement reduction for developments in Pendleton to help fund streetscape improvements, much like they're doing in Walnut Hills to fund WHRF, and in OTR/CBD to fund streetcar operations.
August 8, 20159 yr Pendleton is paying the streetcar % on its new developments already. Also, there is about $1 million in casino TIF money left, but it's slated to go towards the Ziegler renovation.
September 2, 20159 yr Horseshoe Casino adding rooftop bar - http://www.cincinnati.com/story/entertainment/2015/09/01/horseshoe-casino-adding-rooftop-bar/71528636/
November 2, 20159 yr The Cincinnati and Cleveland casinos will no longer be Horseshoe in the near future.
November 2, 20159 yr ^I've never liked the name Horseshoe anyway. I wonder what they will be rebranded as.
November 2, 20159 yr ^I've never liked the name Horseshoe anyway. I wonder what they will be rebranded as. Of the four casino's they operate, three are horseshoe and one is Greektown in Detroit. Could be something totally new or they could just locally name all of the casinos.
November 2, 20159 yr I would guess either Pendleton's or Broadway if they go local, or some version of "Rock Gaming" if they are going to try to build an empire ala Hollywood Casino.
November 2, 20159 yr They should call it Bucktown Casino after the now forgotten neighborhood between the CBD and Mt. Adams. “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
November 3, 20159 yr From the inimitable P. Casey Coston- According to the 1943 WPA guide, the neighborhood [bucktown] was then described as follows: "Here lived the lowest whites and blacks - pimps, prostitutes, thieves, pig rackers, levee hands and their mistresses, and white women with colored lovers, in a buttery, evil fellowship. The decayed shacks and foul odors of this wretched bottom were no worse than the inhabitants, who stole, fought, made love, and got drunk with unfailing regularity." http://www.soapboxmedia.com/features/0126bucktown.aspx
November 3, 20159 yr It should be Cin City ;) "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 3, 20159 yr That image of Wynn is irritating the crap out of me. WTF are those two inexplicably darker windows? Who went "yeah sure that replacement is close enough?" Ugh. On topic. We need a name that evokes something purely Cincinnati. The Horseshoe never did this. I don't know what that means but something as simple as "Broadway Commons Casino" sounds classy and is a direct reference to its location.
November 3, 20159 yr Is there still a plan for a hotel on the Casino site? I know Model Group is doing a big project in Pendelton, but is there any other spin off type developments going on in that immediate area?
November 3, 20159 yr Does anyone actually care about this casino? I like the (basically) free concerts
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