August 15, 201014 yr I had no idea Windsor was a destination for international gamblers… Windsor is easy to get to from the states and has a lower legal age limit for gambling (19 v 21)
August 16, 201014 yr I had no idea Windsor was a destination for international gamblers… Windsor is easy to get to from the states and has a lower legal age limit for gambling (19 v 21) Yes, when I was growing up in Detroit....we would always head over to Windsor...well at the time it was Casino Windsor, but you could go and gamble and drink...and before the casinos in Detroit opened everyone went there. I have been wanting to check out how ridiculous the place is now that its Caesars, because it was pretty nice even before that. Like I said...I can only hope that is is a classy joint a la MGM Grand...and not some cheesy Argosy looking place with 90 year old gamblers wheeling around oxygen tanks.
August 16, 201014 yr Looks like we should be hoping for the Horseshoe brand which would be great play for Lexington, KY but not Cincy. OTOH, Harrah's Cincinnati has a nice ring to it.
August 16, 201014 yr I had no idea Windsor was a destination for international gamblers… Windsor is easy to get to from the states and has a lower legal age limit for gambling (19 v 21) Yes, when I was growing up in Detroit....we would always head over to Windsor...well at the time it was Casino Windsor, but you could go and gamble and drink...and before the casinos in Detroit opened everyone went there. I have been wanting to check out how ridiculous the place is now that its Caesars, because it was pretty nice even before that. Like I said...I can only hope that is is a classy joint a la MGM Grand...and not some cheesy Argosy looking place with 90 year old gamblers wheeling around oxygen tanks. LOL!! I've been working out at Holywood Casino in Lawrenceburg and you just described half the people there. Even though they've renovated, it still won't compete. I've overheard at least a dozen conversationsafter people gamble there saying they can't wait until they only have to drive 10 minutes to the Cincy casino.
August 17, 201014 yr Work on casino to speed up By Alexander Coolidge • [email protected] • August 17, 2010 Matt Cullen, the top Rock Ventures executive overseeing the development of downtown Cincinnati’s future casino, said his company is working closely with its Harrah’s Entertainment to finalize a design team and blueprints as they prepare for a ground breaking by the end of this year. Cullen said the pace of the business relationship with Harrah’s will “dramatically increase” after last week’s announcement the gambling giant would invest in the casino and manage its day-to-day operations. He said a design team is expected to be in place with 90 days. cont. "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
August 17, 201014 yr Author I love the idea of a smoke free casino. I can't wait for the Downtown Cincinnati casino.
August 18, 201014 yr Not a big fan of smoke free completely. I think there should a well ventilated area where people can light up if they would like.
August 18, 201014 yr ^It's called outdoors. :evil: "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
August 24, 201014 yr Broadway Commons district study to examine area impacted by new Cincinnati casino Cincinnati casino developers have selected Harrah’s Entertainment to operate the new casino to be built on Broadway Commons, and the city has approved the necessary funding to move forward on a new Broadway Commons district study that will include recommendations on design, policy, and programming for the newly developed area. The $15,000 study is being funded jointly by the City of Cincinnati, UC Community Design Center, and Bridging Broadway. The Local Initiative Support Coalition of Greater Cincinnati & Northern Kentucky (LISC) will help direct the six-month study with the rest of the group. See more at:http://www.urbancincy.com/2010/08/broadway-commons-district-study-to-examine-area-impacted-by-new-cincinnati-casino/ “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
September 9, 201014 yr Maybe we should tear down Carew Tower and a few other buildings so we have more surface parking.
September 9, 201014 yr Maybe we should tear down Carew Tower and a few other buildings so we have more surface parking. Cincinnati has for too long clinged to yesteryear and its past. Carew is coming on eighty years old! It's time to embrace progress!
September 16, 201014 yr The Enquirer has a video up of the casino concept that I think is new: http://news.cincinnati.com/section/videonetwork?bctid=609889818001
September 16, 201014 yr One of the relatively untalked portions of the plan is the non gambling entertainment that will come. I'm looking forward to comedy acts and smaller productions coming to this place.
September 22, 201014 yr Casino developer picks design firms By Lisa Bernard-Kuhn • [email protected] • September 22, 2010 Design and engineering work for the upcoming $400 million casino at Broadway Commons will be led by a team of Cincinnati-based firms, Rock Gaming LLC announced Wednesday. Downtown-based KZF Design Inc. and WA Inc. have been tapped as the architectural team, and the Cincinnati office of Woolpert LLC will lead civil engineering work on the project. cont. "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
September 22, 201014 yr ^ This is the first step I've seen that actually seems like "walking the walk" (as opposed to "talking the talk") regarding sensitivity to local needs. Still, I remain skeptically optimistic of their claim to aim for a well-integrated urban casino. Does anyone know if the other 3 Ohio cities are being fed similar lines? Have there been charettes in other cities?
September 22, 201014 yr ^This casino is going to make The Banks look like Paris. Just the nature of the game. Nobody should have their hopes up.
September 22, 201014 yr Author I do like the hotel attached to this Downtown St. Louis casino. It is about the only nice thing in St. Louis.
September 22, 201014 yr I like the concept. For a casino, it has the most access to the streets I have ever seen with restaurants and shops and stuff. Most casionos I have been to are fortresses with the main entrance from an ugly parking garage or far removed from the street that it sucks the life out of the street. I think there is some hope that this may compliment the neighborhood.
September 23, 201014 yr I've never been to a casino and I'm not really one to throw money away but I plan on going to this one when it opens. It looks like it will be well integrated.
September 23, 201014 yr I'm just happy that it won't look like Biff Tannen's Pleasure Paradise Casino & Hotel... :-D
September 23, 201014 yr I've never been to a casino and I'm not really one to throw money away but I plan on going to this one when it opens. It looks like it will be well integrated. Do you spend any money on entertainment; movies, music, etc; and do you consider that throwing money away?
September 23, 201014 yr I've never been to a casino and I'm not really one to throw money away but I plan on going to this one when it opens. It looks like it will be well integrated. Do you spend any money on entertainment; movies, music, etc; and do you consider that throwing money away? I get your point, but the one time I went to a casino (honestly expecting to enjoy it), I found the whole environment sad and pathetic. Most people there looked elderly, poor, or elderly and poor, and frankly they seemed like willing victims (like an abused wife that keeps returning). They looked like zombies with an empty hope that "just maybe this will be my time!" ... over and over. I'm not anti-casino, but it doesn't float my boat to go to one. I do occasionally play scratch-off tickets or buy into a lottery pool at work (or pull-off thingies at a festival). My enjoyment of scratch-offs/pull-offs made me think I'd enjoy the casino, but the reality proved not to be the case. If it weren't for the large contingent of people looking like they were betting away money they couldn't afford to lose, it might not be so bad. Then again, watching wealthy people betting away large sums of money wouldn't exactly be my cup of tea, either. Gambling, to my taste, is something best done in moderation. Going to a casino, you're bound to be confronted with (likely a majority of) people who go beyond what I'd consider moderate gambling. Therefore, the experience is unpleasant for me. To each his own. (I don't like going to a bar or party where a majority of the people are embarrassingly drunk alcoholics, either, for example. But I do like to drink beer.) People don't consume movies, music, etc., with that empty, addicting hope that maybe their life will be made a success from this next roll/deal/spin/hit/etc. Edit: This is my 777th post! Must be my lucky day! Maybe I should go play some Blackjack... 8-)
September 23, 201014 yr Well said nati. I actually don't consider buying music or movies a waste of money. I never expect anything else out of them except a few hours entertainment at the max. I'm not saying that if you go to a casino then your stupid for doing so. I just don't see the thrill in gambling. That's just my opinion. But like I said, I plan on going to it, mainly just to see what kinds of entertainment they have and if it was worth voting for.
September 24, 201014 yr Well said nati. I actually don't consider buying music or movies a waste of money. I never expect anything else out of them except a few hours entertainment at the max. I'm not saying that if you go to a casino then your stupid for doing so. I just don't see the thrill in gambling. That's just my opinion. But like I said, I plan on going to it, mainly just to see what kinds of entertainment they have and if it was worth voting for. I think in a way its the exact same concept- Some people see movies- they have decided that the value of $X is worth the 1.5-2.5 hours of entertainment + discussions later with friends. Other people decide that the potential losses of $X are simply the cost for the entertainment/rush/excitement of gambling for 4-5 hours and the discussions with friends following that. and with regards to natininja- ya- that totally happens in many casinos. But also in many dive bars, etc. HOPEFULLY this casino attracts a mix of fun successful people looking for entertainment and of course, just regular people who go frequently that you described earlier (you can't expect to have an urban casino in within blocks of poor neighborhoods and not have local regulars at the casino). It would be failure if the high end attraction didn't connect and it simply became a slummy area. :(
September 25, 201014 yr I've been to several casinos in Macau and it's similar to what others described - bus loads of the elderly. If there are some nice shops attached to the building and some good strategy games like poker tables than you'll get a more diverse crowd but if we're talking all slots than you'll see an older demo.
September 25, 201014 yr There's a hoard of old people at every casino. I think people will just have to get used to it.
October 1, 201014 yr I do like the hotel attached to this Downtown St. Louis casino. It is about the only nice thing in St. Louis. As someone who lived in St. Louis for four years recently, I'd say this statement is very false. Anyway, the Lumiere hotel is nice looking, but the giant electronic billboard monster is awful. I think it's 50 by 70 feet or something. It constantly flashes, encouraging you to drive directly off the side of I-70. edit- is there no way to resize images? Also, I'm mad at Lumiere for forcing the city to close a great music venue via eminent domain... for, you guess it, a surface parking lot... for a casino boat that closed 3 years later.
October 7, 201014 yr Author As someone who lived in St. Louis for four years recently, I'd say this statement is very false. I lived in St. Louis for five years.
October 7, 201014 yr NAACP plans ballot initiative on casino money By Jane Prendergast • [email protected] • October 6, 2010 Cincinnati's NAACP plans a ballot initiative next year that would allow all city residents to vote on how the $20 million expected annually from the new casino should be spent. Because Cincinnati City Council decided last week without a public hearing how to divvy up some of the casino proceeds, the NAACP and Citizens Opposed to Additional Spending and Taxes intend to offer their own spending plan for taxpayers to vote on. Council invited the ballot measure by not allowing more input, NAACP Cincinnati chapter President Christopher Smitherman said Wednesday. cont. "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
October 7, 201014 yr Is Cincinnati going to start having ballot initiatives for their entire budget? This makes no sense to me.
October 8, 201014 yr Because Cincinnati City Council decided last week without a public hearing how to divvy up some of the casino proceeds, the NAACP and Citizens Opposed to Additional Spending and Taxes intend to offer their own spending plan for taxpayers to vote on. I can't wait to see what Smitherman and COAST agree the casino money should be spent on.
October 8, 201014 yr I'm trying to figure out how they would even but this to a vote. Have a list of programs and those who get the first five spots get funding? How would they decide what percentage of funds go to those programs? Or will they come up with their own list of priority programs and percentages to vote on as a package?
October 8, 201014 yr Because Cincinnati City Council decided last week without a public hearing how to divvy up some of the casino proceeds, the NAACP and Citizens Opposed to Additional Spending and Taxes intend to offer their own spending plan for taxpayers to vote on. I can't wait to see what Smitherman and COAST agree the casino money should be spent on. Cincinnati has a severe bedbug epidemic...duh. Is there anything in the casino contract that states (at all) where the city's share of their revenue goes? Is it the same for all of the new Ohio casinos?
October 8, 201014 yr Cincinnati streetcar spur could connect downtown casino Developer Rock Ventures may fund line extension Business Courier of Cincinnati - by Dan Monk Courier Senior Staff Reporter The developers of Harrah’s Entertainment casino at Broadway Commons are talking with city officials about paying for a streetcar spur that would run to the downown casino district. At least one local rail transit supporter said the casino’s endorsement of Cincinnati’s streetcar system could act as a catalyst for a regional light-rail system. http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2010/10/11/story1.html?b=1286769600^4058481
October 8, 201014 yr ^ I looked and looked but couldn't find any reference to this on the Enquirer website. yet- they have nearly everything else on the business courier homepage covered in other articles...
November 1, 201014 yr Casino work to cut parking Businesses prepare for loss of 2,000 spaces at Broadway Commons By Lisa Bernard-Kuhn • [email protected] • October 31, 2010 One of downtown's largest parking lots will close this week as developers prepare for construction of the incoming $400 million casino at Broadway Commons. By Wednesday, more than 2,000 parking spots are expected to disappear as officials with Rock Gaming LLC begin fencing off the massive 22-acre parking lot at Reading Road and Broadway. http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20101031/BIZ01/11010324/1055/NEWS/Casino-work-to-cut-parking
November 1, 201014 yr im expecting an enquirer article a couple months from now..."as downtown obesity drops due to walking lack of parking causes knee problems thanks to those darn pro-cincinnatians"
November 1, 201014 yr Anyone with an 8-5 job should be taking the bus. It will probably drop them off right in front of their workplace or closer than parking at Broadway Commons. Probably also costs less than monthly parking fees. “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
November 1, 201014 yr ^ It would just be too logical for the Enquirer to have an article that provides information per alternatives to driving... though it seems to me to make a decent read for those people who dont realize THIS IS NOT as huge of a problem as they think is.
November 1, 201014 yr Speaking of which, why doesn't the Enquirer give free ad space to TANK and Metro advertising suburban park-and-rides, then put paper machines at the park-and-rides so that people have something to read on the way to work?
November 1, 201014 yr Speaking of which, why doesn't the Enquirer give free ad space to TANK and Metro advertising suburban park-and-rides, then put paper machines at the park-and-rides so that people have something to read on the way to work? I've always been surprised that newspapers in general aren't lobbying for better transit, as transit encourages reading, and people can read the newspaper on the way to work. Any paper that doesn't is stupid and will continue to bleed revenues. ;)
November 1, 201014 yr Cleveland interloper here----has there been any renderings or massings on the casino yet?
November 1, 201014 yr Speaking of which, why doesn't the Enquirer give free ad space to TANK and Metro advertising suburban park-and-rides, then put paper machines at the park-and-rides so that people have something to read on the way to work? I've always been surprised that newspapers in general aren't lobbying for better transit, as transit encourages reading, and people can read the newspaper on the way to work. Any paper that doesn't is stupid and will continue to bleed revenues. ;) Check your next Sunday paper. What has the highest number of pages of advertising? My bet would be automobiles.
November 1, 201014 yr "Anyone with an 8-5 job should be taking the bus." Tell that to the half a million workers who don't have jobs on the bus line. Only 14% of jobs in Hamilton County are downtown.
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