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Well, well, well...from the "It F*cking Figures" Department:

 

Reds' hall won't open on time

Displays may not be ready until 2005

 

By John Erardi and Cliff Peale

The Cincinnati Enquirer

 

There will be no Reds Hall of Fame and Museum this summer, and even September looks like a long shot. Sometime in 2005 is when it will probably be opened.

 

"I'd be flabbergasted if it didn't open in '05 - but never say never in construction projects," Reds chief operating officer John Allen said Wednesday.

 

"This is Reds funding" of $10 million to $12 million, he said. "It isn't taxpayers' money. We're on the hook for it, and how we (go about) raising those funds is obviously a factor, also."

 

Originally, the Hall of Fame and Museum was supposed to be ready for Opening Day 2004, then was pushed back to midsummer, then the fall.

 

"I'm a little skeptical about saying this September, because funding is so important and we want to do it right," Allen said.

 

The shell of the building, which will be completed by Opening Day, is part of the ballpark and is paid for as part of the $250 million share of the stadium covered by tax dollars. The Reds have to pay for the guts of the museum. It's part of the Reds' budget, and right now there isn't enough money to cover it.

Yup, saw that today. Can you believe it? After all they hype about GABP being done on budget and on time unlike PBS, it turns out it really wasn't totally done on time or budget.

 

At least it's not taking taxpayer $$$ anymore...

will pete rose be signing signatures out front?

No, now they are just taking ticket buyers' money and providing them with a shitty product as well.

 

I don't like the way this organization is going. They make it harder to remain a fan every day.

I remember thinking during the past season, even before all of the firesale trades, that as the Bengals become less Bengal-like, the Reds were becoming Bengal-like. The organization makes no plans for the future, and their personnel decisions are so poor that they could make millions on a seminar on how not to run a baseball team.

That's a pretty good take.

You know what? "F" the Reds. I tried to log in to send them an e-mail, and they tell me my e-mail address isn't recognized. Well, that doesn't stop them from sending me e-mails every few days about the signings of no-name players.

 

Fine, Reds, the class of AAA baseball. Give me a call when you decide to try going for the pennant again, jackoffs.

Oh, and then when they do let me in, they require that "NEW" members (I have been getting e-mails from MLB for two years) wait 24 hours to post a topic. Well, fuck you. MLB has screwed things up by putting every team's website under their sorry umbrella. Not only that, but by doing so you can no longer e-mail front office people or their representatives.

Now that I'm moving to Chicago, I've been looking forward to the opportunity to see Reds games at Wrigley. I'm not totally sure I'm gonna want to go anymore though, as I'll probably get laughed out of the park.

 

Course I've been a Bengals fan all my life, so I'm used to it. Doesn't mean it still doesn't bother me.

Enjoy watching Wood, Clement, Zambrano et al just mow down the AAA Reds like they are bitch-boys. Who's our leadoff hitter going to be, Felipe Lopez? :(

My apologies for losing my sh*t yesterday! I did finally get through to the MLB web site folks and they were very helpful.

 

Now if they can just get us some pitching, and a 3B, and a 2B, and some bench players, and a leadoff hitter....

  • 5 months later...

March 25, 2004

 

INTERACTIVE MUSEUM AND HALL OF FAME TO OPEN IN SEPTEMBER

AT CINCINNATI'S GREAT AMERICAN BALL PARK

 

CINCINNATI (OH) – Whether their team wins or loses, Cincinnati Reds fans have something to look forward to this year with the September opening of the new Reds Museum and Hall of Fame.

 

Located directly adjacent to Great American Ball Park, the museum will be a year-round attraction featuring exhibits and state-of-the-art video and interactive displays that showcase the history of baseball's oldest professional team. The building, which also houses the new Reds Team Store by Majestic,

is currently under construction and includes some 15,000 square feet of exhibit space spread over two floors.

 

The museum and hall of fame will give Great American Ball Park a high-energy, interactive feel, offering a variety of activities and attractions for fans to enjoy even on days when no games are scheduled. The goal is to get fans coming to games earlier and staying later as well as to provide non-season ticket holders with a reason to return to the stadium again and again.

 

>is currently in the detail design phase of the museum

 

 

1. Theater and Overview of Great Moments in Reds History

2. Opening Day: The Reds and Their Fans

3. The Business of Baseball, featuring momentous decisions affecting the history

of the national pastime, from fielding the first pro team to the coming of night baseball

4. Game Day, a participatory experience with pitching, catching, fielding and hitting

5. Media, which contains a history of Reds broadcasters and an interactive broadcast booth

6. Great Teams, featuring the Big Red Machine

7. Hall of Fame, featuring the 64 players and executives in the Reds Hall of Fame.

 

Jack Rouse Associates provides a full range of master planning, design and production services for clients such as DAYTONA USA, The Georgia Racing Hall of Fame, and Volkswagen's Autostadt in Germany. In autumn 2003, the Rouse-designed Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame opened at the re-developed Lambeau Field.

 

For more information, contact Sara Bennett at [email protected]

Yeah, you seem to be on the Jack Rouse jock today.

 

Have you seen the team store yet? I was there the day before it opened.

 

I also understand that they have it set up so that to leave the HOF, you have to be funnelled through the team store. Clever, I guess.

The new dugout shop is now open in the same building as the muesem and its quite impressive. Most of the store has 3 storing ceilings with alot of old relics in it. You can even purchase some of the old equipment. I can't wait till the rest of it opens along with the banks, then we'll have one of the best parks.

It's the Reds' Team Store, not the Dugout Shop (not meant to be a compliment, but a replacement). Though I'm sure the Dugout Shop will pe phased out.

The dugout shop will stay open until the end of the season, it will then be phased out.

 

I have been to the "Team Store" and the prices are actually better.

Yeah I like the new reds team store it is very nice.

By John Erardi

Enquirer staff reporter

 

 

With a little more than two months to go, the new Reds Hall of Fame and Museum appears on schedule to make its targeted grand opening Sept. 25.

 

"It's hard to imagine another franchise being able to do something the scale of this project," said Greg Rhodes, executive director of the museum. "We've got so much great history, we can easily fill a 15,000-square-foot building to the point of overflowing."

 

Rhodes led a tour of about 30 media members through the museum Wednesday afternoon.

 

Cincinnati is the home of professional baseball. It played host to the first all-professional team in 1869, and the museum plays heavily upon that theme.

 

 

http://www.cincinnati.com

  • 2 months later...

This place looks pretty neat.  From the 9/25/04 Enquirer:

 

 

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Reds' glory years on display

Hall of Fame, open today, brings it all back home

The Enquirer

 

It's appropriate that one of the attractions of the Cincinnati Reds' new Hall of Fame and Museum, a huge blue-and-red 1940 National League pennant, was donated by a fan, Buddy LaRosa. After all, that's how the museum secured much of its collection.

 

Greg Rhodes, the museum's executive director, said there were about 70 significant public donors.

 

"To get this outpouring of support is a tribute to Reds fans. And it does sort of make you wonder, 'What else might be out there?' "

 

Along with memorabilia, there are a number of exhibits, some of which are interactive. Fans can watch a history of Reds baseball, try their arm from the mound and look inside a makeshift dugout.

 

 

IF YOU GO

The Reds Hall of Fame and Museum opens to the public today. The Oak Hills band will perform at 8:30 a.m.; the ceremony begins at 9 a.m. Doors open at 10 a.m.

 

Parking: Free at the Mehring Way entrance to the garage under the ballpark.

 

Tickets: $8 adults, $6 seniors 55 and over; $5 fans 12 and under. 

And today, the public gets to see the fruit of those efforts when the 15,000-square-foot building officially opens.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/09/25/tem_RedsHall25.html

 

OTHER LINKS:

Inside the Hall of Fame (photos)

Monday's Gala Photos

Halls of Fame

On the opening day...from the 9/26/04 Enquirer:

 

 

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Taking in the exhibits Saturday were Joe Fenneken (from left), Tyler Armstrong, 11, Russ Helber and Alyssa Helber, 4, of Walton.

The Enquirer/TONY JONES

 

Opening day for Reds Hall of Fame a winner

Museum helps jog memories for older fans, thrills kids

By Reid Forgrave

Enquirer staff writer

 

DOWNTOWN - Bill Nintrup has photographs of himself as a toddler donning a Reds cap.

 

One of his fondest childhood memories was sitting on his dad's lap along the first-base line in Riverfront Stadium during the 1976 World Series and watching Dan Driessen play up close.

 

So it came as no surprise to his wife that she'd have to spend Saturday morning trolling through the history of the team that dominated Nintrup's childhood.

 

"I've been driving her nuts to come to it," said Nintrup, after his wife dutifully watched a video on Reds' history Saturday during the opening day of the much-anticipated Reds Hall of Fame and Museum.

 

"And it's definitely worth it."

 

Hundreds of Reds fanatics gathered Saturday for the public opening of the Reds Hall of Fame and Museum at Great American Ball Park. Early reviews were positive.

 

 

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/09/26/loc_redshall260.html

Looks nice. $8 seems a little steep though.

they ought to give free admission to ticket holders for home games when they lose.

I think it is cheaper if you go before or after a game and you have a ticket to that day's (or night's) game.

^ Yeah, I think it's $5 if you have a same-day game ticket.

 

I like Summit Street's idea, though. But I'm afraid that they wouldn't make any money the way they're going. :D

Well, I went to the game and the Hall of Fame on Saturday and while the Reds lost, I was actually impressed by the Hall of Fame and I was never a big Reds/baseball fan. We only gave ourselves an hour so if you intend to read all they have on display I doubt you can do it in one trip. We barely scratched the surface. The wall of 4,192+ baseballs representing Pete Rose's total hit count was neat. It is three stories tall.

 

Side note:

Ok, so can we at least finish the parks at the Banks to make the setting for the Hall of Fame and the Freedom Center a little nicer? Finish that and I think you taken a big step even if you can't get the parking garages done.

^That would be great to get the Banks Park done, but I'm not sure they even have a detailed plan for it yet. It is going to cost something like $75 million which they don't have. They hoped to get state and federal funding for it because the city and county are tapped out. Of course so is the state and federal government, so I don't think there is a chance of the park appearing anytime soon.

  • 2 months later...

i'm stalking you grasscat, you're just padding your post count..........and so am I!

The Hall of Fame is open but not finished.  A small additional building will be built closer to the river where there is presently gravel.  Right now you can't walk out into the rose garden, but you will have to walk across it in order to get to the new building when it is built. 

You're right, it's not completely finished, however the most important parts are done and open to the public.

Does anyone know what's going to be built next to GABP? There is just dirt next to the Roebling bridge.

Does anyone know what's going to be built next to GABP? There is just dirt next to the Roebling bridge.

 

It supposed to be part of the Banks project.  The county ran out of money and was unable to finish the parking garages that are to be built prior to any private developement.  There is a Banks thread on this website and you can also go to the Cincy port authority website or 3cdc.org to see what is planned for that space.

Unusual you should have known that.  You have been with us for a while now.

I thought the banks was going in the area between the Museum and Paul Brown stadium.

All in all, it is suppose to go in both sections but will more than likely start on the GAPB side.

I was listening to 700 WLW today and yet again people really had no idea that anything at all is planned for the space in between the stadiums.  It's simply shocking to me, coming back for a visit to town, how little people know about what is going on.   

Btw, welcome home, Jake!

I was listening to 700 WLW today and yet again people really had no idea that anything at all is planned for the space in between the stadiums. It's simply shocking to me, coming back for a visit to town, how little people know about what is going on.

 

700 WLW listerners (hell, people in general) are mostly morons.  They probably believe that the area between the stadiums was planned to remain surface parking for their suburban-ass benefit.

I was listening to 700 WLW today and yet again people really had no idea that anything at all is planned for the space in between the stadiums. It's simply shocking to me, coming back for a visit to town, how little people know about what is going on.

 

700 WLW listerners (hell, people in general) are mostly morons. They probably believe that the area between the stadiums was planned to remain surface parking for their suburban-ass benefit.

 

Hey! I resent that! :-p

(I was listening to WLW yesterday as I drove through Cincy rush-hour traffice on my way to Marengo, i.e. home)

"They probably believe that the area between the stadiums was planned to remain surface parking for their suburban-ass benefit."

 

You bring up a good point, you know there are some fat ass tailgaters out there that one those surface lots for football games.

MAGYAR--I listen to WLW sometimes too!  Am I a moron?  Well, some people may want to debate that....

 

Hey, I'm one of those fat ass tailgaters!!  I walk down to lot D every home game but I'd much rather be "tailgating" at the ESPN ZONE or a Gordon Biersch Brewery built on top of those garages when they finish them. Especially when it is going to be a high of 29 degrees outside this Sunday.  Actually when it gets this cold we just tailgate at the Jelley Doughnut (the bar in my home) and walk down about a half-hour before kickoff.  Anyone going to the game Sunday(except Bills fans) is welcome to join.

ESPN ZONE would be perfect. PLANET HOLLYWOOD would be nice too ( but probably a pipe dream ) but you never know, with the crowd's before and after games,it might be hard to pass up.

Planet Hollywood would not be nice.  There are only about 5 left in the country, they were a flop.

 

I would be cool with ESPN Zone, they have the cool bowling game there.

^ Yeah...the other option was The Banks.

ESPNzone was to be in newport at somepoint, but i guess the deal fell through somewhow. I have not heard too much mroe about it the past 2 years.

 

 

Here is an old article about ESPNzone.

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2000/09/18/story1.html

 

It sounds like on the second page of the article they were leaning towards The Banks.  Maybe they were holding out hoping The Banks would actually start to progress.  I can't imagine a better place for it.  The Reds and Bengals games alone would pack the place 91 times(81 Reds 10 Bengals) a year.  I know thats only 1/4 of the year but I think between convention business, US Bank arena events, and local poeple coming down to a place they don't have in the burb's it would do well.

Most of the locations seem pretty urban (Chicago=near Michigan Ave. NYC=Times Square) so I can't imagine they would go to Kenwood or any farther suburbs.  In Atlanta they are in Buckhead which is suburban but that seems to be the exception.

Can you tell I'm desperate for a good sports bar downtown?

^ Meanwhile, in the suburbs 90% of bars are sports bars!

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