Posted December 26, 200618 yr long time lurker, first time poster. I was driving into work today and heard a mention of the renovation of the Variety Theater on Lorain Ave, just down from 117th. it is, unbeknownst to me and possibly a lot of people, a cleveland landmark. http://westparkhistory.com/spotlight/variety.htm mentioned in the article are the Westown Community Development Corp, but their website is just a list of emails. http://www.westowncdc.org/ anyone have tangible leads on this?
December 26, 200618 yr Welcome to the board, Math. The City Planner for the Westown CDC is Michael Bosak [(216) 664-3802]. I know he has specifically worked on that theater - and the area in general. You might be able to get some information from Cudell Improvement, Inc. [(216) 228-4383], also since theyt are more likely to have information the Westown CDC does not have.
December 26, 200618 yr After thinking about this a little, I was sure I had stored some photos somewhere - and I found them. I am 95% sure these are of the Variety. Somebody will likely correct me if I am wrong. This is a map of the proposed Variety Theater District from a few years ago. It is still in the works the last I heard. Call Mike for more details. You can view the whole set here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/muscatello/sets/72157594439368601/
December 26, 200618 yr I don't think that's the Variety theater and neither do several people in my office. One of them said the Variety was in terrible shape the last time she was in there a few years ago. I don't remember them making any improvements to the theater since -- and certainly not to that extent! The interior actually looks like the Agora, and even a little like the Cedar-Lee. But what's the stylish "P" emblems above the doors? It's not the Palace Theater downtown. What is it? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 26, 200618 yr After thinking about this a little, I was sure I had stored some photos somewhere - and I found them. I am 95% sure these are of the Variety. Somebody will likely correct me if I am wrong. Ok, now I am only 5% sure it is the Variety. I did not take the pictures, but was given the file when I interned in the planning office. The title on the folder said Variety Theater and included the map. The last time I was actually in the theater was in the 80's to see the Dead Kennedy's play. Needless to say, everything was pretty dark in there when I last visited.
December 26, 200618 yr I'm pretty sure that's the Lorain Palace Theater (as in, in the city of Lorain, not on Lorain Ave. in Cleveland.) Edit: After looking at the other pictures in the set, I'm actually almost positive that's what it is. I've been there numerous times, and the lack of a balcony or mezzanine always struck me as odd.
December 26, 200618 yr Palace Theater in Lorain = That makes sense. Ha, Dead Kennedy's! Was a big fan back in the 80s, too. Still have one of their albums. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 26, 200618 yr indeed, those are from the lorain palace theater not the variety. it has a great old wurlitzer organ and is a great community restoration project in its own right. here's the website with lot's 'o info: http://www.lorainpalace.org/hist2.asp restoration pic the "no balcony" interior: stage chandelier
December 26, 200618 yr I love it when I'm wrong - it makes other people look smarter. I stand corrected and will change the title of photo set on Flickr.
December 27, 200618 yr forget it, its not like that happens often with you...besides, it gave us a chance to highlight two theater renovation projects instead of just one!
December 27, 200618 yr Got to see a little bit about the Variety project Septemberish. Westown CDC is looking to renovate this theatre as the anchor for a larger neighborhood plan along Lorain Avenue. They were still in the early planning stages but were interested in pushing this as a venue for performing arts groups (particularly small Cleveland-based dance groups, as well as for a cinema. The building was in really bad shape when I saw it a couple months back, but you could tell that it was at one time pretty stunning (and that it still had potential to be stunning again).
December 27, 200618 yr Author it would be nice for a second element to upgrade that area. it already has a number of great places to eat, with luchitas, mi pueblo, as well as several middle eastern establishments all within several blocks of the intersection. though it seems to both suffer and benefit from being the easiest passage between 90 and 71. I used to take 117th to lorain to 130th to drive to the airport. if memory serves, I believe the bank building across the street was also recently renovated.
December 27, 200618 yr They started to renovate the bank building across the street, but stopped for some reason. It's been sitting with boarded-up windows for at least a year now. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 27, 200618 yr At least they painted the boards a nice color instead of keeping the rotted plywood look. That's so 90's.
June 14, 200718 yr I am writing on behalf of the Friends of the Historic Variety Theatre. We are in the process of restoring the theatre and are in need of obtaining photographic documentation on the theatre between 1927 and 1950. We are offering $20 to anyone who submits a photo. One of our board members suggested contacting CSU to see if any of the professors had students who would be interested in possibly making some money for doing research. The address of the theatre is 11815 Lorain Avenue, Cleveland, Ohio 44111. It is a City of Cleveland Landmark and is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Please feel free to pass this info on to anyone you think may be interested. I'm including the attached flyer with more information. Please feel free to contact me with any questions. <<...>> Gretchen Moore Commercial Program Director Westown Community Development Corporation 216-941-9262
June 14, 200718 yr Councilwoman Dona Brady said Westown CDC is particularly interested in getting color photos of the theater's marquee before it was damaged by a tornado in the 1950s (1953?). The post-storm reconstruction gave the theater its current marquee. They want the original marquee restored, including its original colors. I wasn't able to get a blurb about this into the West Side Sun News for today. But I hope to get it in next week's edition. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 14, 200718 yr My dad would tell a story of being in a movie theater when a tornado rumbled just outside. I bet that is the one. He said they stopped the picture and told everyone to sit tight, but that there was a tornado outside.
June 14, 200718 yr Seriously?!? WOW That is crazy. One of the major many reasons why I will never move out of the city of Cleveland is because of our lack of natural disasters.
June 15, 200718 yr We probably get as many man-made disasters here as natural ones. That same year (1953) was the infamous sewer explosion along West 117th from Lake Road to Berea Road. The nearly one-mile section of street was blown up, tossing large slabs of concrete against buses and cars. One person died. See http://www.lkwdpl.org/lore/lore13.htm for more info. I wasn't able to find much about the 1953 tornado. But I did find this blurb... https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/1811/5495/1/V69N06_343.pdf June 8, 1953. Many Ohioans remember the devastating tornado that rampaged through Wood, Sandusky, Erie, Lorain, and Cuyahoga Counties between 7 and 10 PM on this day. The twister left 17 dead and approximately 400 injured in its path. Numerous reports of hail up to one and one-half inches in diameter were received. The storm resulted in $3,410,000 in crop damage and $19,320,000 in property damage. Major property damage was in the Cleveland area. _____________________ Also, here is some information from the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration about the overall storm system that spawned the west-side Cleveland tornado.... ...(An) F5 monster ripped through portions of greater Flint, Mich., on June 8, killing 116 people and injuring 844 along a 27-mile path. Named the Flint-Beecher tornado, it is memorable for being the last tornado in the United States (as of this writing in 2003) to claim more than 100 fatalities. The Flint-Beecher tornado is rated as the ninth deadliest twister ever recorded in the United States. This tornado was one of ten that hit southeast Michigan and northwest Ohio that afternoon and evening. The others caused a total of 26 deaths and 449 injuries with damage stretching from Alpena, Mich., on the western shore of Lake Huron, to Cleveland, Ohio. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 15, 200718 yr volcanoes - no tsunami - no earthquake - hardly mountain slide - barely hurricanes - nope tornado - occasionally rain/snow storms - yup floods - mostly because people live in stupid places I'm good.
June 27, 200717 yr The Variety Theater article should run in this week's West Side Sun News. Or, at least I made it available for this paper -- space constraints make its appearance uncertain. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 7, 200717 yr Great photos! This was one of the aspects of the 'dog and pony' show the planning commission did through the neighborhoods that I really applauded. When you look at the entire area, zones of commercial are going to be established and mixed use in other places. Much more reasonable since our population can't support all of Lorain Avenue down to Fairview being commercial anymore. This is one thing I think can work; and the Variety, I pass it every day at least once - it needs some love and I can't wait for it to happen lol
May 5, 200916 yr ADD SOME VARIETY Posted by Frank Lewis on Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:12 AM Buildings like the Capitol Theater on Detroit Avenue are giving neighborhoods something to brag about again. And as the Northeast Shores Development Corp. tries to turn around others, like the old LaSalle on East 185th in North Collinwood, the Westown Community Development Corp. is closer. The group will soon buy the decrepit Variety Theater at 11815 Lorain Avenue for a complete makeover into a renovated theater, seven storefronts and 13 apartments upstairs. Ward 19 councilwoman Dona Brady was successful on Monday in convincing Cleveland City Council’s finance committee to pitch in $211,000 in redevelopment funding toward the 80-year-old building’s purchase. A group, Friends of the Variety Theater, has already raised the remainder of the $1 million asking price through loan promises, and has purchased a new marquee — currently in storage — to return the tired-looking block to an earlier, prouder time. More at http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2009/04/30/add-some-variety
June 12, 201213 yr Hi All, Here is an Article that appeared in the Sun. The next post is photos I took of the new developments in the area. The area has a lot of interesting things happening lately. Variety Theater is at heart of revitalization area in Cleveland Published: Friday, April 27, 2012, 10:43 AM By Ken Prendergast, Sun News CLEVELAND Lorain Avenue, between West 110th and West 130th streets, has a number of pieces of the revitalization puzzle that are starting to fall into place at the same time. At the geographic heart of this commercial district is the 85-year-old Variety Theater, 11815 Lorain, which is undergoing a slow renovation due to limited funds. The 1,900-seat theater closed about 25 years ago, after having served as a vaudeville house, movie theater and stage for rock concerts. It is owned by the Friends Of The Historic Variety Theater Inc. A dozen apartments on the theater’s second-floor were renovated, and now two new stores have come to the theater’s 10 storefronts. READ MORE AT: http://www.cleveland.com/sunpostherald/index.ssf/2012/04/variety_theater_is_at_heart_of.html
June 12, 201213 yr Justine, while I appreciate you posting my article, you cannot post any article (including mine) in its entirety -- including the copyright info at the bottom of the article! :-o Copyright and UO posting rules regarding articles require all forumers to limit sharing of only the headline, date, author, a couple of paragraphs of the article, and a link to view the rest of the article. UO ran into some very serious legal complaints from Ohio's eight largest newspapers a few years ago about this, and we had to go back and clean up thousands of messages to comply with copyrights. Many threads still have not been cleaned and sit in a section of the site where forumers can't see it. So see above for how to post articles. Thanks! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 12, 201213 yr No problem. You mentioned you have some pictures to post too? I'd love to see them! :) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 13, 201213 yr Here are some recent photos of the Variety Theater, some of the housing nearby, the Pizza place to open soon.
June 21, 201212 yr <img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8007/7415209148_3f239ae5c4_z.jpg"> <imgsrc="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8163/7415209044_907c1ee9e3.jpg">
June 21, 201212 yr Businesses in the area. <img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5443/7415208256_4c0647f3fb.jpg"> <img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5279/7415208996_9991f699ac.jpg">
July 20, 201212 yr A photo of the storefronts of the Variety Theater as they appear today. Westown-CDC on facebook now has a photo of the interior of Variety Theater
October 3, 201311 yr City Planning Commission Agenda for October 4, 2013 Lorain Avenue Pedestrian Plan NOACA Transportation for Liveable Communities (TLCI) Plan Presenters: Alex Pesta, City Architecture Melissa Miller, Bellaire-Puritas Dev. Corp. http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2013/10032013/index.php Many more images at the above link...... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 5, 201510 yr It's been a while since we've heard anything on the Variety Village... once-dazzling variety theatre set for rebirth as new lorain avenue anchor "Current construction plans, which were put together about a year ago, call for extensive plumbing work and renovation. The apartments are to remain as such and the 300-seat balcony is slated to become a venue for a large-screen theatre. Specific plans for the orchestra pit, main stage and theatre space are pending. The characterization of the reborn Variety, however, will be one friendly to original musicians and grassroots music production." http://freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/varietytheater030415.aspx
April 8, 201510 yr Another article on the Variety Theater, this time from New York City..... Artist and activist Seph Lawless shares pics of abandoned and dilapidated Cleveland theater slated for big renovation BY TOBIAS SALINGER NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, March 30, 2015, 1:54 AM These pictures raise the curtain on a long-closed vaudeville theater. Artist and activist photographer Seph Lawless shot Cleveland’s abandoned Variety Theatre earlier this month to help raise funds for a preservationist group that’s bringing the one-time Warner Brothers playhouse back to life, Lawless told the Daily News. The Friends of the Historic Variety Theatre, an organization that owns the sprawling 1927 building at W. 118th St. and Lorain Ave. and is developing it in partnership with the Westown Community Development Corporation, brought in the locally based photog known for his images of economic decline. The theater also served as a movie house and live music venue before the city closed it in 1986, the pseudonymous Lawless said. MORE: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/seph-lawless-shares-pics-abandoned-cleveland-theater-article-1.2166773 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 28, 201510 yr Why is Detroit-Shoreway's name on this? Did the Westown CDC get merged into it?? http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2015/05282015/index.php Cleveland Landmarks Commission AGENDA - May 28, 2015 Lorain Variety Historic District: Case: 15-041 Variety Theatre 11815-37 Lorain Avenue Marquee and blade sign "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 28, 201510 yr When did "Jefferson" get added to the neighborhood name? Because West Park is so big, the City splits it into four parts for planning purposes. Jefferson is the portion of West Park generally east of Kamm's Corners, and it's named for Jefferson Park on Lorain Ave. As far as I know, the current SPAs have been in use since at least 2000. ETA- The Westown CDC's service area covers all of Ward 11, which includes a small part of "Jefferson," so that's probably why this thread exists as it does. The Variety sits in that overlap area.
May 28, 201510 yr When did "Jefferson" get added to the neighborhood name? Because West Park is so big, the City splits it into four parts for planning purposes. Jefferson is the portion of West Park generally east of Kamm's Corners, and it's named for Jefferson Park on Lorain Ave. As far as I know, the current SPAs have been in use since at least 2000. ETA- The Westown CDC's service area covers all of Ward 11, which includes a small part of "Jefferson," so that's probably why this thread exists as it does. The Variety sits in that overlap area. Interesting, I guess you learn something new every day. My niece could almost fire a bottle rocket from her front porch into Jefferson Park and I never heard this name before.
May 28, 201510 yr Not sure about the exact geometry, but the neigborhood of Jefferson consists the area roughly west of 117th, east of the Red Line tracks, south of the Lakewood border, and north of Puritas Avenue.
May 28, 201510 yr Not sure about the exact geometry, but the neigborhood of Jefferson consists the area roughly west of 117th, east of the Red Line tracks, south of the Lakewood border, and north of Puritas Avenue. Yes, actually north of I-71 and west of West 117th. See the outline of Cleveland SPA's here: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/gis/cpc.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 4, 20159 yr Getting serious about good design! http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/08072015/index.php City Planning Commission Agenda for August 7, 2015 ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS Ordinance No. 849-15(Ward 11/Councilmember Brady): Establishing the Variety Design Review District along the south side of Lorain Avenue between West 123rd Street and West 129th Street. Ordinance No. 850-15(Ward 11/Councilmember Brady): Establishing an Urban Form Overlay District along the south side of Lorain Avenue between West 123rd Street and West 129th Street. Ordinance No. 932-15(Ward 11/Councilmember Brady): Changing the Use, Area and Height Districts of lands located on the east side of West 117th Street north of Lorain Avenue to Local Retail, a 'C' Area District, and a '1' Height District. Ordinance No. 851-15(Ward 16/Councilmember Kazy): Establishing an Urban Form Overlay District on the north side of Lorain Avenue between West 123rd Street and West 136th Street and the south side of Lorain Avenue between West 129th Street and West 136th Street. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 19, 20159 yr Noticed the listing shows an outlot for the Giant Eagle/Target strip center on West 117th at I-90 as having a three-space retail block featuring Starbucks and Chipotle, with the third as-yet unidentified. Does that mean this will be built soon? Saw nothing on Planning Commission unless this was pre-approved when the retail complex was originally developed... http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/MainSite/Listing/Profile/Profile.aspx?LID=19311886&SRID=6129508263&StepID=101 Starbucks Anchored Strip Center - New 3038 W 117th Street, Cleveland, OH 44111 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 21, 20159 yr Author This thread really shows you how long these things can take. I posted the first thing in this thread about the Variety renovation nine years ago!
September 17, 20159 yr Nice little project. FW2015-015 – E&A Locksmith Proposed Demolition of Two-Story Mixed-Use Building and New Construction of Two-Story Commercial Building Project Address: 10500 Lorain Avenue Project Representative: Leon Sampat, Architect http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/09182015/index.php
September 17, 20159 yr ^Nice looking development. Lorain is loaded with many old-style walkable pockets. It's good to see many are getting a fresh look. While I don't like losing older buildings, like the one in the middle (which appears to be about 100 years old), you often have to give something to get something.
September 17, 20159 yr Wow I would have thought that was a historic rehab. That two story building has a great design to fit in with the retail with walk up office/apartment above style architecture that lines Lorain Ave an many other main streets in Cleveland.
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