Hotels for CWRU's graduation have been about impossible to find this week I've heard.  Even the suburban ones were booked.

^ And you've said CSU is this same weekend, right?

 

How long till this 400 room Westin can open? And the one in the flats?

^ someone else on here had said that so I relayed the info.

 

It looks like it was last weekend though... Not sure what they meant.  Grad students maybe?  Or maybe misinformation.

 

http://www.csuohio.edu/commencement/

^ And you've said CSU is this same weekend, right?

 

How long till this 400 room Westin can open? And the one in the flats?

 

You and your "questions"?

 

Westin

https://www.starwoodhotels.com/westin/about/news/news_release_detail.html?Id=DEBUT_IN_CLEVELAND

 

Aloft

http://www.starwoodhotels.com/alofthotels/newsevents/news/detail.html?mode=pressReleasesDetail&id=08232010

^ someone else on here had said that so I relayed the info.

 

It looks like it was last weekend though... Not sure what they meant.  Grad students maybe?  Or maybe misinformation.

 

http://www.csuohio.edu/commencement/

 

Oops, it was just law commencement, not the entire school.  my mistake

Not sure if this is the best thread for it, but great little short article here from HuffPo about CVNP.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carstravelfood/explore-america-ohios-onl_b_1526255.html

Too much tourism this past weekend!  Apparently Whiskey Island ran out of beer and Zocalo ran out of food.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20120522/BLOGS04/120529946

Too much tourism this past weekend!  Apparently Whiskey Island ran out of beer and Zocalo ran out of food.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20120522/BLOGS04/120529946

 

Sounds like similar stories at other downtown establishments which had to close because they ran out of whatever.

Frank Lloyd Wright house in Ohio named most romantic place

 

By Betty O’Neill-Roderick

Special to the Beacon Journal

 

Did you know the most romantic place in the country is right here in Willoughby Hills?

 

Lonely Planet recently named the Louis Penfield House the “Most Romantic Place in the United States.” Noted architect Frank Lloyd Wright designed the home for the Louis Penfield family, which lived there for a number of years. The secluded location in Lake County, just off Interstate 90, makes it an ideal spot for a romantic getaway or a honeymoon. In the fall, the trees on the heavily wooded property turn brilliant shades of orange and gold.

 

http://www.ohio.com/lifestyle/travel/frank-lloyd-wright-house-in-ohio-named-most-romantic-place-1.329867

http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2012/12/readying_a_2016_convention_bid.html#incart_2box I think Cleveland has a very decent shot for a 2016 political convention. We'll have more hotel rooms, the Q and a new convention center, adequate transportation infrastructure, and loads of leisure and entertainment options in a surging city center. And of course, the road to the White House will once again hinge on Ohio's electoral votes. Maybe you don't directly increase votes by holding a convention in a certain city, but it certainly increases enthusiasm and activism among volunteers and supporters. Democrats need to maintain the energy and turnout they had in '08 and '12 in Ohio and the GOP needs to dramatically increase its energy and turnout if it is going to take Ohio. Cleveland and NEO offers the chance to both parties.

^add to that the fact that conventions for either party are not as big as they used to be.  So the number of hotel rooms in the area may be adequate by that time

^add to that the fact that conventions for either party are not as big as they used to be.  So the number of hotel rooms in the area may be adequate by that time

 

We still will not have a HOST CONVENTION sized hotel.  Untl that happens, our city will continue to be passed over for major conventions or top tier events.

The city has two years until it officially has to enter a bid. Hopefully we get some news on a possible convention-sized hotel this Tuesday.

^That would be cool if we heard something about a huge new hotel there that soon. If the project were fast tracked or done design/build it could be built with a grand opening just in time for a possible political convention.

^That would be cool if we heard something about a huge new hotel there that soon. If the project were fast tracked or done design/build it could be built with a grand opening just in time for a possible political convention.

 

Not to mention the Senior and Gay games.

Well we know Fitzgerald wants the county's real estate transactions to have a 'big bang' type impact on economic development downtown. The county will get money from its building and land sales plus there is still the county's "100 million dollar" downtown development fund floating around out there...Consultants and experts from the convention industry are probably telling Cuyahoga County that our $465 million dollar investment in convention facilities will be at an immediate competitive disadvantage because we lack an industry standard convention-sized hotel property. I hope this is the next logical step for them.

^Other than a big (~800-1000-room) convention hotel, how many rooms do we need Downtown (defined as the river to the Innerbelt, Carnegie to the Lake) to a be credible contender for a the DNC or RNC? And how many rooms do we know we will have in 2016 including Aloft and the Westin?

 

I did a tally once of all the downtown hotels on here once, let me see if I can dig it up.

 

EDIT:  Ok, just found my old list, its here: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,26395.105.html  --it may need a little updating. it also includes UC/Cle Clinic hotels in the total.

Okay, the updated list of rooms:

 

 

DOWNTOWN

 

Aloft - 150 Rooms

Cleveland Marriott Downtown at Key Center – 400 rooms

Renaissance Cleveland Hotel- 441 rooms + 50 suites

Ritz Carlton – 205 rooms

DoubleTree by Hilton Cleveland Downtown – Lakeside – 379 including 5 suites

Hampton Inn - Cleveland Downtown – 194 rooms

Hilton Garden Inn Cleveland Downtown – 240 including 8 suites

Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites Cleveland – Downtown-141 rooms + 25 suites

Hyatt Regency Cleveland at The Arcade – 293 rooms

Radisson Hotel Cleveland-Gateway - 142 rooms

Wyndham Cleveland at Playhouse Square - 205 rooms, including 32 suites

Residence Inn by Marriott - Cleveland Downtown - 175 suites

Comfort Inn – Downtown – 130 rooms

University Hotel & Suites (36th & Euclid) – 161 rooms*

Westin Cleveland Convention Center Hotel - 481 Rooms

 

TOTAL (including hotels under construction – in italics):  3,812

 

*I know, its east of the Innerbelt boundary of Downtown

[“suites” are counted as “rooms” for this purpose.]

 

 

MIDTOWN/UNIVERSITY CIRCLE

 

Tudor Arms (Doubletree) – 154 rooms

Glidden House – 60 rooms

Cleveland Clinic Guest House (Intercontinental)  (96th & Euclid) – 231 rooms

Intercontinental Suites (88th & Euclid) - 162 suites

Intercontinental Hotel (98th & Carnegie)  299 rooms + 23 suites

Marriott Courtyard—University Circle - 153 Rooms

 

TOTAL (including hotels under construction – in italics):  1,082

 

[“suites” are counted as “rooms” for this purpose.]

 

TOTAL:  DOWNTOWN + MIDTOWN + UNIV CIRCLE:  4,894

 

 

POTENTIAL FUTURE

 

Kimpton - 161 Rooms

Potential Le Meridien? – (Euclid between 9th and 12th) - ??

 

 

^3,800 rooms Downtown doesn't seem like very much....

How does it compare to other recent convention host cities?

a few comparisons i found wiki-ing:

 

kc has 3500 downtown.

austin 3600 in the whole city limits.

indy has 6000 downtown and 20k w/in an hours drive.

milwaukee 3700 in and near downtown.

vancouver, bc has 15k downtown.

 

 

I read an article just now about the DNC and Charlotte's hotels. As of February 2011, the occupancy rate was 55.00% and average room rate was $80.60 a night. It's largest hotel is 700 rooms. Uptown Charlotte has 4200 and the article said the DNC required 15,000 rooms within a 30 minute drive and access to another 15,000 beyond that.

^With all the burbs, how many hotel rooms do we have based on those requirements (15,000 rooms within a 30 minute drive and access to another 15,000 beyond that)?

 

 

If we're counting University Circle, I think we should count the hotels rooms at the Cleveland Hopkins Airport as well. 

Hotels around Hopkins are certainly within the 30-min perimeter, but I think of hotels at Clinic and at Univ Circle as part of the 'central city' (even if UC borders Cle hts) as its within the hub of activity in which people visiting CLE find themselves.  That said, Downtown is still 'Downtown', so I think its important to break that number out separately.

 

But speaking of places by the airport, are there criteria for what's counted as a hotel room or at least one that's appropriate for a convention? Do the hourly places count?

Would Beachwood fit within the 30-minute drive?  There's a lot of hotel rooms there.

Columbus is looking to host one of the political conventions in 2016 as well.  I think both Cleveland and Columbus should each go for both political conventions, and in a best case scenario both conventions come to the nation's ultimate battleground state.  Normally I'd think that the parties try to spatially spread out, but in this era of Ohio is the end all be all state of presidential politics, I think both conventions coming here is a very real possibility.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/print-edition/2012/11/16/is-it-our-turn.html

Would Beachwood fit within the 30-minute drive?  There's a lot of hotel rooms there.

 

A lot?  What do you consider "a lot"?  I'm not being a smart ass when I ask this question.

Hey guys, my brother (CLEbetarian) and I did some work on all this about a year ago (should all be in the hotel development thread if I recall. 

 

Some quick stats: (Note: this is as of the summer, with Embassy gone and a few other developments, the rooms have changed slightly, but it's a fairly good key in its completeness.  Also lists room numbers for Aloft, Westin, Marriott, and other hotels being built.)

 

-Rooms within 1/2 mile of CCMM: 2,025

-Rooms within 1 mile of CcMM: 4,073

-Rooms within 2 miles of CCMM: 4,234

-Rooms in Cleveland: 6,407

-Rooms in Cuyahoga: 15,548

-Rooms in Greater Cleveland w/o Summit: 20,521

-Rooms in Greater Cleveland: 25,403

 

 

^^not including Beachwood Aloft, there are 1,792 rooms in Beachwood. 

 

Airport area (defined by areas with hotels that use Airport in title [in this instance: Brook Park, Brooklyn, portions of Cleveland, Fairview Park, Middleburg Heights, North Olmsted]): 3,746

Would Independence be the next big cluster?

^Yes, only other cities with more than 4 hotels in Cuyahoga are Independence (1,882 rooms) and Westlake (986 rooms)

Would Beachwood fit within the 30-minute drive?  There's a lot of hotel rooms there.

 

A lot?  What do you consider "a lot"?  I'm not being a smart ass when I ask this question.

 

A few thousand.  Although I see someone answered below and there are less than I thought, although still significant to raise the total.

 

I'm really surprised that Independence has slightly more rooms than Beachwood.

 

Now that I think of it...aren't a few of the hotels at Chagrin/I-271 and Harvard/I-271 in Orange (anything on the east side of 271) and Warrensville Heights (like the Marriott) since those cities all butt up against each other there?

 

^^not including Beachwood Aloft, there are 1,792 rooms in Beachwood. 

 

Airport area (defined by areas with hotels that use Airport in title [in this instance: Brook Park, Brooklyn, portions of Cleveland, Fairview Park, Middleburg Heights, North Olmsted]): 3,746

 

I've actually have been doing some research on this same topic for the past week or so (for a completely different reason). Those numbers are pretty close to what I came up with, though I would add Strongsville in with the "airport" hotels. The 306-room Holiday Inn in Strongsville is techincally "Holiday Inn Cleveland-Strongsville Airport." It's actually the second largest of the "airport" hotels outside of the Marriot on 150th. My numbers (and I included the Super 8 that is next to the Strongsville Holiday Inn) has the Airport numbers at 4,392 (that includes all the national brand hotels/motels in Strongsville, Middleburg, Brook Park, Cleveland (non-downtown southwest side), Brooklyn and North Olmsted).

 

Overall, I haven't even gotten to the east side of Cuyahoga County, but from what I've gathered, the hotel breakdown in Western Cuyahoga County breaks down like this (now adding Independence, Westlake and Lakewood):

 

1. Independence - 1,704

2. Cleveland (airport only) - 1,282

3. Middleburg - 1,271

4. Westlake - 984

5. North Olmsted - 708

6. Brook Park - 547

7. Strongsville - 399

8. Brooklyn - 185

9. Lakewood - 106

 

That comes up to a total of 7,186 on the west side of Cuyahoga. When added to roughly 5,000 (as has been pointed out on here) in downtown/UC numbers, Cuyahoga is over 12,000. While I haven't gotten to it yet, I'm sure there are easily more than 3,000 rooms on the east side, putting Cuyahoga County over the 15,000 mark (basically I'm seconding the work you and your brother already did). There is no doubt that anywhere in Cuyahoga County would be included in the "half-hour radius," when it comes to a presidential convention.

 

The real question is, how many of these rooms are 3-star or better? I'm trying to break that down, though so far only have the west side broken down. It comes out to this:

 

5-star - 0

4- star - 537 (7.5 percent)

3-star - 4520 (62.9 percent)

2-star - 2129 (29.7 percent)

1-star - 0

 

I'll be the first to admit that I'm not an expert on how Cleveland compares to any other city its size in terms of sheer volume of hotels, nor the percent of quality hotels.

 

But just going to go off the assumption that all the 5,000 rooms that have been mentioned in downtown and UC on here are at least 3-star quality, if you add that up with the 4,520 on the west side, then Cuyahoga County has at least 9,500 rooms of that quality. That's not even taking into account the east side, which should bump that number to the 12,000 range. Maybe somebody with more hotel knowledge can go further in how that compares to similar "convention" cities.

Heavy tourism in Cleveland...true dat:

 

Cleveland: 11 million visitors expected Downtown in 2013

12:00 AM, Feb 5, 2013  |  0  comments

 

 

CLEVELAND -- Positively Cleveland, the convention and visitors bureau for the region estimates 11 million people will visit Downtown in 2013.

 

A visitor could be anyone from a neighboring suburb to a far away country.

 

The Medical Mart and Convention Center will open in July.

 

The World Senior Games will also be held here in July.

 

Combined with regional projects that stretch as far as Cedar Point and the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and the tourism could have a residual effect that keeps more visitors coming.

 

http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/281904/3/Cleveland-11-million-visitors-expected-Downtown-in-2013

There is no doubt that anywhere in Cuyahoga County would be included in the "half-hour radius," when it comes to a presidential convention.

 

I happened to have my Site Location software open (which includes a drive time calculator) and a 30 minute drivetime from downtown includes not only all of Cuyahoga County, but all of Avon/Avon Lake/North Ridgeville on the west, Brunswick on the SW, Macedonia and Twinsburg and most of Hudson in the SE, and all of western Lake County up to and including Mentor

Kansas City makes pitch for the 2016 Republican convention

 

http://www.theolathenews.com/2013/08/20/2066281/kansas-city-makes-pitch-for-the.html

 

Is CLE still pushing for the DNC in 2016?

 

Re the RNC:

 

"Ohio's venerable State Chairman Bob Bennett....told us he plans to push hard for his hometown of Cleveland as the next convention site. Along with a brand new 650-room hotel near its main arena, , Cleveland is in Ohio, the state of  that all winning presidential candidates in the last century except one (John Kennedy in 1960) have had to carry...."

 

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/GOP-convention-June-Priebus/2013/08/17/id/520912

New study shows hotels in cities with rail-airport links perform better than in convention-draw cities without links

 

http://www.apta.com/resources/reportsandpublications/Documents/ATPA-UST-New-Partnership.pdf

Sounds like the Westin got a pretty good out-of-town hire:

 

http://www.sacbee.com/2014/01/13/6068281/sage-hospitality-announces-general.html

MurrayHill's new residential list in another thread got me to think about the number of hotel projects that we will have added in the city of Cleveland in a 5 year span between 2011 to 2016 approximately. I came up with about 2750+ rooms. And considering where this city was to where it's going that's a pretty impressive number. Anyway here is how it breaks down. Let me know if I am missing something.

 

Tudor Arms Doubletree   154  Open

Courtyard by Marriott  153  Open

Aloft FEB   150   Open

Westin  484   Nearing completion

Kimpton Schofield  160  Under construction

AC @The9  156  Under construction

Drury   225   Beginning construction

Hilton CC  600+  Site demolition

Holiday Inn  CleClinic  275   Site demolition

LeMeridian  JHB   206   Site preparation

Crowns Plaza  CAC  195   Completing financing

 

2759

^Yes, things have been booming! That reminds me, I haven’t updated my Downtown/Univ Circle hotel totals in a while. Looks like December 9, 2012, was my last update, though I may have done one more recently that may have been lost in the data crash. In the December 2012 post, I had a grand total of operating and under construction/advanced planning hotel rooms at 4,894 rooms in Downtown, Midtown, and University Circle.  That number is much bigger now. See below.

 

“Suites” are counted as “rooms” for this purpose.

 

HOTEL ROOMS AS OF JANUARY 17, 2014

 

DOWNTOWN (to E. 36 St.)

 

Operating:

 

Aloft - 150 Rooms

Cleveland Marriott Downtown at Key Center – 400 rooms

Comfort Inn – Downtown – 130 rooms

DoubleTree by Hilton Cleveland Downtown – Lakeside – 374 rooms + 5 suites

Hampton Inn - Cleveland Downtown – 194 rooms

Hilton Garden Inn Cleveland Downtown – 232 + 8 suites

Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites Cleveland – Downtown-141 rooms + 25 suites

Hyatt Regency Cleveland at The Arcade – 293 rooms

Renaissance Cleveland Hotel- 441 rooms + 50 suites

Ritz Carlton – 205 rooms

Radisson Hotel Cleveland-Gateway - 142 rooms

Wyndham Cleveland at Playhouse Square - 173 rooms + 32 suites

Residence Inn by Marriott - Cleveland Downtown - 175 suites

University Hotel & Suites (36th & Euclid) – 161 rooms*

 

Under Construction / Site Prep / Advanced Planning or Funding:

 

Westin Cleveland Convention Center Hotel - 481 Rooms

Kimpton - 161 Rooms

Autograph at the 9 / Bruer – 156 Rooms

Drury Board of Education – 225 Rooms

Hilton Cleveland Convention Center– 600 Rooms

Le Meridien JHB - 206 Rooms

Crowne Plaza - Cle Athletic Club - 195 Rooms

 

Downtown TOTAL (Operating and Not Yet Operating):  5355

 

 

MIDTOWN (E. 36 to E. 105)

 

Operating:

 

Intercontinental Hotel (98th & Carnegie) 299 rooms + 23 suites

Intercontinental Suites (88th & Euclid) - 162 suites

 

Under Construction / Site Prep / Advanced Planning or Funding

 

Holiday Inn-Cle Clinic – 275 Rooms

 

Midtown TOTAL (Operating and Not Yet Operating): 759

 

 

UNIVERSITY CIRCLE

 

Operating:

 

Tudor Arms (Doubletree) (107 & Carnegie) – 154 rooms

Glidden House – 60 rooms

Marriott Courtyard—University Circle - 153 Rooms

 

Under Construction / Site Prep / Advanced Planning or Funding

 

None

 

Univ Circle TOTAL (Operating and Not Yet Operating): 367

 

 

TOTALS:

Operating

 

Downtown 3331

Midtown    484

Univ Circle   367

Subtotal 4182

Under Construction / Site Prep / Advanced Planning or Funding

 

Downtown 2024

Midtown   275

Univ Circle       0

Subtotal 2299

 

 

GRAND TOTAL:  6481

 

Compared to 4939 in December 2012, that’s a 31% increase!

 

B@stards...

 

United scrubs plans to have annual shareholders' meeting in Cleveland

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/02/united_scrubs_plans_to_have_an.html

B@stards...

 

United scrubs plans to have annual shareholders' meeting in Cleveland

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/02/united_scrubs_plans_to_have_an.html

Shocker

B@stards...

 

United scrubs plans to have annual shareholders' meeting in Cleveland

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/02/united_scrubs_plans_to_have_an.html

Shocker

 

In corporate parlance, I'd say they're "building the airplane while flying it...." 

 

Pun intended.

Cleveland 'quiet' as Columbus mayor makes big play for Republican presidential convention in 2016

CLEVELAND, Ohio – Cleveland and Columbus both are on the list of possible sites for the Republican presidential convention in 2016. But only one is making an aggressive push for it this week as top GOP decision-makers hear pitches in Washington.

...

Denver, Kansas City and Las Vegas are among the other cities pressing their cases. Cleveland, where Mayor Frank Jackson and Cuyahoga County Executive Ed FitzGerald both have expressed an interest in landing a convention, is not, according to a Republican source. The city’s absence could leave it behind the pace in the competition.

...

Positively Cleveland, the convention and visitors bureau, also does not have a presence at the RNC meetings. Bureau spokeswoman Jennifer Kramer said in an email that “there are still many decisions being made with regard to the pitch and the next steps.”

 

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/01/cleveland_quiet_as_columbus_ma.html

^I guess Cleveland doesn't need the business :wink: :laugh:

Guess I will put this here since it is run by the Ritz and the casino thread is locked.

 

Silver Grille reborn.

 

http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/2014/02/11/silver-grille-a-hidden-gem-inside-the-horseshoe-casino/5314523/

 

 

 

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^ that is beyond fantastic. i am verklempt that they cared to revive it in the casino. awesome.

 

^ that is beyond fantastic. i am verklempt that they cared to revive it in the casino. awesome.

 

 

The Silver Grille was restored and revived in 2002. http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/dream-grille/Content?oid=1479531 It was a nice story but this isn't anything new as its been used as a private event space for years. TC has always offered it along with the English Oak Room and the Renaissance for large banquets. The Ritz runs the Grille while Executive Caterers runs the Oak Room.