August 2, 201311 yr Update: I went ahead and sent them an email and got a response shortly thereafter requesting $600.00 for the three files I requested. I responded with my understanding of the law and we'll see how things progress from here. Below is the email exchange. It reads from bottom to top: Thanks for the quick reply...though I'm not exactly satisfied by your response. My understanding of Ohio law, rudimentary as it is, tells me that the data CAGIS collects should be subject to the Ohio Public Records Law. CAGIS is clearly a public agency, funded with city and county money, and the records you collect fit the definition of 'public record' used on the websites of both the Ohio Attorney General and the City of Cincinnati. In a nutshell, if the records are subject to the Ohio Public Records Law as I believe they are, that means that I have a right to access the records, and you are able to charge me a reasonable fee for any costs incurred in producing a copy of the record(like paper/ink for a photocopy). Since these are digital files, those costs should be very minimal if they exist at all: closer to two orders of magnitude less than the price you quoted. A recent case in Cleveland made clear that the Ohio Public Records Law does indeed include geospatial data, though there were some complicating factors in their case. http://www.geospatialpartnership.org/blog/2013/03/12/supreme-court-rules-scioto-county-engineer-craig-oppermans-response-met-requirements-of-public-records-act Your records, and I've seen them and worked with them before, seem to have no such complications regarding entanglement with proprietary software. Do you understand CAGIS and particularly the files in question to be exempt from the Ohio Public Records Act? If so please be very explicit in your explanation. Best, Nate Wessel 330-936-2849 On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Office, CAGIS <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Nate, We can provide the Street centerlines shapefile containing the street name, length, class, type and so forth. But there is no information associated speed limits. The associated data with the Building footprints shapefile are height, the number of the units, the use of the buildings, and so forth. You can get the parcels including all information shown on our website except the zoning. The price of the data is $200 for each shapefile. Besides, we have a strict pre-pay policy. You can pay it by cash or check made out to "The City of Cincinnati" and sent to the CAGIS Office at 138 E. Court St. Cincinnati, OH 45202 on the 10th floor. Once payment is received, the data will be sent to you by email, on a disk, or through a secure file transfer. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us. Thank you. Have a good day. Sincerely, Rui CAGIS Intern From: Nate Wessel [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 1:37 PM To: Office, CAGIS Subject: Request for Data To whom it may concern, I would like copies of several of your geospatial datasets at their full extent, particularly: --Street centerlines with associated speed limits, widths and surfaces(if widths and surfaces, [ie, concrete, asphalt..]are available. I'm not certain you maintain that data) -Building footprints with all associated data such as number of stories, general use, etc. -All parcels in Hamilton County(and other counties if available) including all information shown through the 'property report' tool in the online map(http://cagisonline.hamilton-co.org/cagisonline/index.html) Shapefiles would work perfectly, or I'm open to accepting the data in another format if that's easier for you and compatible with my software. I would prefer to transfer the files over the internet such as through FTP or HTTP. If that isn't possible, I could arrange to come by the office at your convenience with a portable hard-drive. Thanks, Nate Wessel 330-936-2849
November 11, 201410 yr I see that CAGIS added a free way to access their data: http://cagismaps.hamilton-co.org/cagisportal/mapdata/download "On June 5, 2014, the CAGIS Policy Board authorized staff to provide an approved set of GIS layers, free of charge, to the general public. These layers are updated quarterly. CAGIS does not provide any technical assistance on how to download, convert or use the data in any system. Users must acknowlege the CAGIS disclaimer prior to downloading the data." Can anyone here explain how to use this FTP to get CAD data? I am not technically adept, but would love to be able to download the data for free instead of paying $200 a pop.
November 11, 201410 yr Well, this is a rather tremendous surprise, given their earlier reaction... From the limited metadata, it looks like the 'yearly' file is about worthless (there's better free data for those things already), but the 'quarterly' might be quite good. It's still downloading for me... Jskinner: To your question about CAD files, I don't see any mentioned in the metadata. If they have any, they don't seem to be sharing them yet.
November 11, 201410 yr ^^ The downloads are all .shp files, so you would need to find a program to convert them into .dwg or .dxf files to use in CAD. A quick Google of "convert .shp to .dwg" will bring up a few freeware solutions like QGIS, which can export to .dxf. If you have access to ArcGIS (DAAP does) you can learn how to get into it and get CAD out of it pretty quickly.
November 11, 201410 yr QGIS is a great program, and it keeps getting more capable at every release. The DXF export is relatively new I believe, and it's all free. I downloaded the quarterly update and there's a lot in it. All the road centerlines, curb lines, sidewalks, parking lots, railroads, buildings, parcels/land use, municipal borders, and zoning. I'm downloading the yearly data set to get the rivers, lakes, and ponds, as well as the contours (that's by far the largest layer). Good stuff, it's been ages since I've been able to update the Hamilton County map on my website.
November 15, 201410 yr Thanks guys! It took me a while, but I downloaded the quarterly data, unzipped it, downloaded QGIS, opened the program, imported the unzipped files, then exported a DXF file for use in Autocad. Now I have the whole county in data to play around with in cad. Excellent. It would be much better if the data included property lines.
November 15, 201410 yr ^ It's in the "parcpoly" layer from the quarterly data. That also has land use, but you need to classify it by "exlucode" (existing land use code) to see the different colors. For some reason none of the data sets seem to have the "condo" layer so those show up as blank/white.
December 24, 201410 yr Anyone know what's up with the overlapping neighborhood boundaries? Are the boundaries disputed? Are there no official boundaries? If not, I wish city council would take up the issue and get the neighborhoods decided once and for all.
January 19, 201510 yr jjakucyk can you walk me through turning the property lines on? I cannot figure it out.
January 20, 201510 yr Anyone know what's up with the overlapping neighborhood boundaries? Are the boundaries disputed? Are there no official boundaries? If not, I wish city council would take up the issue and get the neighborhoods decided once and for all. I realized there are two versions of the boundaries, one "statistical" which don't overlap, and one for community councils (which do overlap). It's still messy, as the statistical one doesn't have all 52 neighborhoods. It has 49 or 50, can't remember.
August 13, 20159 yr I merged a bunch of CAGIS topics. I just realized they updated the aerial imagery to include 2015 satellite views. Previously the most recent satellite view was from 2011. The GE building is under construction, but the western half of Smale isn't finished. Enjoy! http://cagisonline.hamilton-co.org/cagisonline/index.html
August 14, 20159 yr ^ Likewise, the Hamilton County Auditor updated aerial imagery. There's is better, IMO, as it has birds-eye views from all directions. Search for a property and click on " Aerial Imagery" to access the images.
August 14, 20159 yr ^ Likewise, the Hamilton County Auditor updated aerial imagery. There's is better, IMO, as it has birds-eye views from all directions. Search for a property and click on " Aerial Imagery" to access the images. It wasn't working last week or two weeks ago when I was looking something up, probably because they were doing these updates.
January 17, 20214 yr I'm not able to load CAGIS on my home computer because Adobe is no longer supporting Flash. What is the solution? I don't follow this stuff at all.
January 17, 20214 yr 42 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: Where is the link? This should work: https://cagis.hamilton-co.org/cagisonline/
January 17, 20214 yr 54 minutes ago, Ram23 said: This should work: https://cagis.hamilton-co.org/cagisonline/ That works when I link directly from this page but not when I type it in. Where is the link off the Cagis website?
January 17, 20214 yr Just now, jmecklenborg said: That works when I link directly from this page but not when I type it in. Where is the link off the Cagis website? "CAGIS Online-Map Explorer" under "Quick Links" takes me there. You might need to clear your cookies or cache.
January 17, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Ram23 said: "CAGIS Online-Map Explorer" under "Quick Links" takes me there. You might need to clear your cookies or cache. Thanks.
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