February 22, 20232 yr On 2/16/2023 at 3:53 PM, jwulsin said: Is there actual talk of Xavier opening a medical school? Yes. I am a X grad and have some good contacts. I cannot CONFIRM, but hearing that both a medical school and football team are a "done deal". I would say, though- until I see something official, I am skeptical. There is a big push to improve MALE enrollment at X. Football will be a driver; a medical school can obviously help as well. Edited February 22, 20232 yr by xu9697
February 22, 20232 yr On 2/17/2023 at 12:58 PM, Dev said: The parking lot for the business college or the grass lot to the east? Both are owned by Xavier but the existing north/south running path is owned by SORTA and Wasson Way is planned to be extended from Montgomery through this space to Idlewild. You can thank Cranley for pushing Wasson Way, which acts to block the corridor from transit use, and his great quest to reduce the city earnings tax. It goes without saying that having a modern light rail or streetcar service running directly through XU's campus on this ROW would be a great marketing tool aside from its value in linking UC and XU.
February 22, 20232 yr 56 minutes ago, xu9697 said: Yes. I am a X grad and have some good contacts. I cannot CONFIRM, but hearing that both a medical school and football team are a "done deal". I would say, though- until I see something official, I am skeptical. There is a big push to improve MALE enrollment at X. Football will be a driver; a medical school can obviously help as well. I have heard about football coming back had not heard about the medical school. I would think medical school, or at least pure medical school where they do it alone is a difficult lift considering Xavier does not have an affiliation with a hospital. Maybe like NKU has a medical program with UK, but who would XU affiliate with? I know they have a very good nursing program and OT School. I could see them expanding on that into more PT (although MSJ and UC both have PT programs).
February 22, 20232 yr 45 minutes ago, Lazarus said: You can thank Cranley for pushing Wasson Way, which acts to block the corridor from transit use, and his great quest to reduce the city earnings tax. It goes without saying that having a modern light rail or streetcar service running directly through XU's campus on this ROW would be a great marketing tool aside from its value in linking UC and XU. Yes, I am aware of the history for Wasson Way. I'm not really sure it's fair to put all blame on Cranley for this. Considering how strongly Hyde Park residents defend strict single family zoning, I really doubt a light rail line could be installed anytime soon regardless of the status of the trail.
February 22, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, Dev said: Yes, I am aware of the history for Wasson Way. I'm not really sure it's fair to put all blame on Cranley for this. Considering how strongly Hyde Park residents defend strict single family zoning, I really doubt a light rail line could be installed anytime soon regardless of the status of the trail. Hyde Park is a great neighborhood and so is Oakley and Mt. Lookout, but those neighborhoods will always be strong. For light rail, I would run it N/S in between the 71 corridor and connect Downtown, Uptown, Kenwood and Blue Ash on a line as those areas are all major job centers in Hamilton County. At the same time you run it through Norwood, Kennedy Heights/Pleasant Ridge, Silverton and connect through Deer Park. This would give an economic jolt to those older neighborhoods.
February 22, 20232 yr Not the right thread for this but you can create a light rail corridor on the Wasson Way trail and leave room for a bike trail. They're doing something similar in Baltimore now. There's also a north/south RoW running through XU by the Cintas Center into Norwood that can be used for something.
February 22, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, JaceTheAce41 said: Not the right thread for this but you can create a light rail corridor on the Wasson Way trail and leave room for a bike trail. Of course you can, but back in 2013 Cranley pitted Jay Andress against Frank Henson and their respective groups. Frank was willing to compromise with the bike component of the corridor but Jay was not, who didn't care about bikes, but absolutely did not want any provision made for future transit. Jay made up the whole story about his daughter coming up with the idea for the trail. It was classic Cranley - get that fraction of the population that ought to be aligned and working cooperatively toward creating the best project possible instead fighting amongst themselves. Hyde Park vs. bike people vs. transit people in a royal rumble.
February 22, 20232 yr XU is going to play football in the Pioneer Football League, which is Division 1 FCS non-scholarship. They'll be in the same league as Butler, Dayton, Valpo and Morehead State so they won't need a big football stadium. I'm talking maybe 10,000 capacity at max so a nicer version of a high school stadium. Since it's non-scholarship, you can get 80 or so guys to play and pay tuition. From what I've heard, the field will be somewhere across from Listerman basically at Idlewild but it might be somewhere else. If XU wanted to build a parking structure, they could build it in the Cintas Center parking lot or across the old railroad RoW in the Norwood Plaza area. I would guess their med school would be in that area too.
February 22, 20232 yr ^Are they going to have a band? XU has a music program: https://www.xavier.edu/music-program/index
February 22, 20232 yr Most PFL schools do. It would also drive enrollment since there are a lot of kids who go to college to be in marching band.
February 22, 20232 yr 33 minutes ago, JaceTheAce41 said: Most PFL schools do. It would also drive enrollment since there are a lot of kids who go to college to be in marching band. When do they hope to announce this program?
February 22, 20232 yr No clue. All I know is what I've been told. If I had to guess, it will be in the next year or so since they've already let it slip that football is probably happening.
February 22, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, JaceTheAce41 said: No clue. All I know is what I've been told. If I had to guess, it will be in the next year or so since they've already let it slip that football is probably happening. Cant wait for the crosstown showdown in football between Xavier and UC University of Dayton.
February 23, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said: I have heard about football coming back had not heard about the medical school. I would think medical school, or at least pure medical school where they do it alone is a difficult lift considering Xavier does not have an affiliation with a hospital. Maybe like NKU has a medical program with UK, but who would XU affiliate with? I know they have a very good nursing program and OT School. I could see them expanding on that into more PT (although MSJ and UC both have PT programs). A couple things as a Xavier alum. In addition to the Dana Ave space, there's the big open space next to the baseball field that could suit a new med school building or football field. As for hospital partners, they already have a Tri-Health facility on campus, and Xavier's sports medicine staff are Tri-Health employees (not XU). I imagine it would be affiliated with them if they were to have a specialty program.
February 23, 20232 yr Hmm. Wasn’t there a surprise proposal for a small football stadium at Summit Park in Blue Ash a few weeks ago? www.cincinnatiideas.com
February 23, 20232 yr Could put a football field In the blue and build a parking garage in the white.
February 23, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, thebillshark said: Hmm. Wasn’t there a surprise proposal for a small football stadium at Summit Park in Blue Ash a few weeks ago? That was for Moeller.
February 23, 20232 yr On 2/17/2023 at 12:58 PM, Dev said: The parking lot for the business college or the grass lot to the east? Both are owned by Xavier but the existing north/south running path is owned by SORTA and Wasson Way is planned to be extended from Montgomery through this space to Idlewild. Reference from January 27 meeting with Tri-State Trails
February 23, 20232 yr The fields and tennis courts along Webster Ave are owned by City of Cincinnati... Anybody know what the deal is there? Does Xavier have exclusive rights to that land? Seems weird that the tennis courts have Xavier's logo painted on them, yet the City owns the land. Does Xavier pay the City for those rights? Does the general public have access? Edited February 23, 20232 yr by jwulsin
February 23, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said: Could put a football field In the blue and build a parking garage in the white. This is where I would have thought it could go. Though the area along Dana also seems logical if they can fit it in along the path that is mentioned (living in Cleveland, I don't have as much knowledge of that plan and proposal.)
February 23, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, xu9697 said: This is where I would have thought it could go. Though the area along Dana also seems logical if they can fit it in along the path that is mentioned (living in Cleveland, I don't have as much knowledge of that plan and proposal.) I think it’s a great place to put one but I am sure Joseph auto group will be up in arms bc they park their cars in these lots.
May 3, 20232 yr Xavier considering rebooting football program By KEVIN FLAHERTY Apr 27, 4:18 PM Xavier University is looking into bringing back its football program for the first time since the school canceled it in 1973, according to the Cincinnati Business Courier. Xavier athletic director Greg Christopher told the Business Courier that the school was looking at bringing back the program as a means to boost enrollment. “We continue to explore football, and I continue to flippantly say it’s a definite maybe,” Christopher said. “It’s a model of using sports teams to boost enrollment.” Per the report, Xavier's enrollment for spring semester is 5,729 students, down 1,100 students from spring 2019. Football would bring in another 105 student-athletes, who would pay their own way in a non-scholarship model. ... Christopher told the Business Courier that wouldn’t be the case this go-round, as Xavier would aim to join the Pioneer Football League with programs like Dayton and Butler, which don’t have scholarship players. Using those programs as baselines, Christopher said Xavier could stand to bring in $3 million in revenue per year with about $1 million per year in expenses. Most of that revenue would come from tuition, room and board paid by student-athletes. “It’s essentially the same model that Division III teams use,” Christopher said. “We wouldn’t have this conversation if it weren’t net revenue positive. It’s not a matter of taking resources from anywhere else.” More below: https://247sports.com/Article/Xavier-considering-rebooting-football-program-209076363/
May 8, 20232 yr Rendering for XU's new School of Osteopathic Medicine: Article: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2023/05/08/xavier-university-college-of-osteopathic-medicine.html Note that Ohio University has its own Osteopathic Medicine program and has been advertising it on bus stops near XU for several months!
May 8, 20232 yr obviously an early rendering, but that xavier style/glass curtain wall hybrid is bizarre.
May 8, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, zsnyder said: obviously an early rendering, but that xavier style/glass curtain wall hybrid is bizarre. Oh I like it a lot.
May 9, 20232 yr Seems like the design is right in line with the "Xavier vernacular" which is to be expected. I like how it faces the streets, both Dana and "Station Way" (side note: I wish Xavier had simply kept the name Brooks Ave instead of having a different name north of Dana). I like the outdoor spaces (patio on the fourth floor overlooking Dana and covered patio facing Station Way).
May 9, 20232 yr I don't like it but only because it sits right in the path of the light rail route I developed in my imagination.
May 9, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, küshner said: I don't like it but only because it sits right in the path of the light rail route I developed in my imagination. If it helps ease your mind, it's mentioned that Xavier isn't firm on the location of the building. That being said, I think your disappointment is inevitable in this lifetime.
December 12, 20231 yr Xavier University receives $50 million gift for new medical college Xavier University has received its second $50 million gift in as many years, paving the way for the creation of its planned medical college. The university on Dec. 12 announced the $50 million donation to support the launch of Xavier’s College of Osteopathic Medicine. “This historic gift will allow Xavier to take on an essential role in our nation’s primary care landscape,” Xavier President Colleen Hanycz said in a news release. The gift was pledged anonymously. “Xavier is tremendously blessed to have the support of such a humble family, whose generosity to our community cannot be overstated,” Xavier Vice President for University Relations Gary Massa said in the release. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2023/12/12/xavier-university-donation-gift-medical-college.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
December 12, 20231 yr Maybe it was the Marge Schott foundation and they just do not want any press because of her legacy. Her family had been a decent sized donor to Xavier in the past i believe.
December 14, 20231 yr On 12/12/2023 at 3:56 PM, Brutus_buckeye said: Maybe it was the Marge Schott foundation and they just do not want any press because of her legacy. Her family had been a decent sized donor to Xavier in the past i believe. It's a good thought but the Schott Foundation doesn't have nearly that much left in the coffers to be donating to Xavier University.
December 14, 20231 yr 5 minutes ago, savadams13 said: It's a good thought but the Schott Foundation doesn't have nearly that much left in the coffers to be donating to Xavier University. I was thinking the same thing. $50 million is a lot and that foundation has probably would not be able to make a gift that large.
December 14, 20231 yr Every non profit has to list their assets publically for tax filing time.Yeah the foundation could cover the $50 million but that's extremely doubtful it did and it would be listed in next year's tax returns.That kind of money is a living alumni high likely making the donation. https://www.instrumentl.com/990-report/marge-charles-j-schott-foundation Edited December 14, 20231 yr by ucnum1
December 14, 20231 yr 8 minutes ago, ucnum1 said: Every non profit has to list their assets publically for tax filing time.Yeah the foundation could cover the $50 million but that's extremely doubtful it did and it would be listed in next year's tax returns.That kind of money is a living alumni high likely making the donation. https://www.instrumentl.com/990-report/marge-charles-j-schott-foundation Unless they are winding down, which I doubt, $96 million would not be enough to make a $50 million gift. You are probably right that it is a living alum likely doing some pretty advanced estate tax planning with the gift.
February 14, 20241 yr Xavier University reveals cost, construction timeline of new college of osteopathic medicine Xavier University’s mammoth task of creating a new medicinal college from scratch is advancing at breakneck speeds, according to school officials who exclusively shared new details about the project with the Business Courier. Xavier has a hard deadline of breaking ground on the new college of osteopathic medicine building by fall 2024, according to Rachel Chrastil, provost and chief academic officer, who is spearheading its development alongside its newly hired dean, Steven Halm. “People said 20 years ago when we opened the Cintas Center that was a huge step for Xavier, and it was a huge step joining the Big East about 10 years ago,” Chrastil said. “The way I see it, this is our Big East moment for academics.” More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/02/14/xavier-college-osteopathic-medicine-cost-timeline.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 15, 20241 yr It matches the newish business school. There's still plenty of room for X to add another academic building, football stadium or softball field in that area. They also have that parking lot East of Cintas Center.
February 15, 20241 yr I'm talking more about the massing vs. transparency vs. catholic vs. modernist box.
February 15, 20241 yr The fact that it could be an office building, dormitory, or parking garage without the exterior changing, and it doesn't have much pizazz for a new major/focus makes it a blah building
February 16, 20241 yr 12 hours ago, thebillshark said: Wouldn’t Wasson Way go right by this building? Yes, although the route is likely going to shift a bit due to the building. The City of Cincinnati already has secured funding for those signalized crosswalks, including straightening Idlewild next to Listermann. I was told those grants were supposed to hit this year, and there were surveyor stakes through the former rail RoW last month, so I'm hopeful it all gets built this year either before the new building or along with it.
May 29, 20241 yr Xavier University picks architect, construction teams for $109M medical college project Xavier University has selected multiple firms to design and build its forthcoming $109 million college of medicine. Slam Collaborative, an illustrious national firm founded in Connecticut with offices in Boston, Atlanta, Los Angeles and New York, will serve as the architect of record, with local design work performed by Cincinnati-based MSA Design. Xavier has turned to Messer Construction, also headquartered in downtown Cincinnati, to build the project. Messer is the region's second-largest general contractor. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/05/28/xavier-university-slam-msa-messer-medical-college.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 2, 2024Oct 2 The City of Cincinnati has uploaded a 38 page slide deck for the public engagement needed to amend the PD for the new college. Edited October 2, 2024Oct 2 by Dev
October 16, 2024Oct 16 Xavier University sets groundbreaking for new medical college Xavier University has set a groundbreaking date for its proposed college of osteopathic medicine, a $109 million, 130,000-square-foot facility. A ceremonial groundbreaking will take place Dec. 6. The facility is being designed by Slam Collaborative and Cincinnati-based MSA Design. Messer Construction will serve as the project’s general contractor. “As we break ground on what will become one of the region’s premier medical teaching facilities, we also recognize the life-changing outcomes our College of Osteopathic Medicine will produce for future students and communities,” Xavier President Colleen Hanycz said in a news release. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/10/16/xavier-medical-school-groundbreaking-impact-doctor.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 17, 2024Oct 17 It's not entirely clear to me due to discrepancies between the site plans and the renderings... but I really hope they don't put surface parking between Station Way and the primary entrance.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 2 hours ago, jwulsin said: It's not entirely clear to me due to discrepancies between the site plans and the renderings... but I really hope they don't put surface parking between Station Way and the primary entrance. The site plan shows parking in front of the building only because it's an overlay of what is already there, parking lots and fields. Nothing in the packet suggests there would be parking there, in fact under parking it states: Quote Added parking demand to be accommodated in parking lots throughout campus Living accommodations for medical students are expected to be both on-campus and off-campus. Students living off-campus are expected to consist of those that are close enough to walk and those that drive to campus.
October 18, 2024Oct 18 To emphasize what has already been noted, I can confirm there is no parking planned between Station Way and the main building entrance.
November 2, 2024Nov 2 Cincinnati Planning Commission votes on Xavier University’s new medical school Zoning changes needed so that Xavier University can build its new College of Osteopathic Medicine sailed through the Cincinnati Planning Commission Friday, with members praising the new school as a game changer for the region. Commissioners unanimously approved major alterations Nov. 1 to the University Station planned development in the northwest corner of Montgomery Road and Dana Avenue. They changed the allowed use from office to institutional, approved a new building footprint and site layout and a decrease in off-street parking spaces. The changes now go to Cincinnati City Council for approval. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/11/01/xavier-university-medical-school-planning-change.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
December 4, 2024Dec 4 Xavier University reveals design plans for college of osteopathic medicine Xavier University has finalized the design for its nearly $110 million college of osteopathic medicine. The university released the official renderings Dec. 4, just days before a ceremonial groundbreaking Dec. 6. The renderings show both the exterior and interior of the massive 130,000-square-foot, state-of-the-art building, expected to be constructed on Dana Avenue near the Health United Building and west of Station Way. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/12/04/xavier-college-medicine-facility-design-photos.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
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