October 16, 201311 yr ^ cool picture! I don't know why we need two bridges. That wide for one way?!! It will be five lanes but a breakdown lane on each side of the bridge, per federal regulations. The current Inner Belt is eight lanes with no breakdown lanes. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 17, 201311 yr ^ cool picture! I don't know why we need two bridges. That wide for one way?!! It will be five lanes but a breakdown lane on each side of the bridge, per federal regulations. The current Inner Belt is eight lanes with no breakdown lanes. Wouldn't it have been cheaper to just build one large bridge?
October 17, 201311 yr ^ cool picture! I don't know why we need two bridges. That wide for one way?!! It will be five lanes but a breakdown lane on each side of the bridge, per federal regulations. The current Inner Belt is eight lanes with no breakdown lanes. Wouldn't it have been cheaper to just build one large bridge? I believe it's a matter of maintaining traffic flow.
October 17, 201311 yr ^ cool picture! I don't know why we need two bridges. That wide for one way?!! It will be five lanes but a breakdown lane on each side of the bridge, per federal regulations. The current Inner Belt is eight lanes with no breakdown lanes. Wouldn't it have been cheaper to just build one large bridge? 2 bridges gives them the option of shutting down one to work on it while diverting traffic to the other.
October 17, 201311 yr ^ cool picture! I don't know why we need two bridges. That wide for one way?!! It will be five lanes but a breakdown lane on each side of the bridge, per federal regulations. The current Inner Belt is eight lanes with no breakdown lanes. Wouldn't it have been cheaper to just build one large bridge? Probably, but they didn't have the money for both bridges at the outset. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 17, 201311 yr ^ cool picture! I don't know why we need two bridges. That wide for one way?!! It will be five lanes but a breakdown lane on each side of the bridge, per federal regulations. The current Inner Belt is eight lanes with no breakdown lanes. Wouldn't it have been cheaper to just build one large bridge? Probably, but they didn't have the money for both bridges at the outset. Well good news is the second bridge construction will start 2016 and not 2027. How wide is the new bridge compared to the current one? Do we really need two bridges? Well good news is the second bridge construction will start 2016 and not 2027. How wide is the new bridge compared to the current one? Do we really need two bridges? First rule in government spending:
November 8, 201311 yr The new bridge is about to be opened, and there will be pedestrian access tomorrow AM from 9:00 to 10:30. Please Join Us! Join Lt. Governor Mary Taylor and other distinguished guests in a ceremony to celebrate the new westbound I-90 Innerbelt Bridge! The new bridge will be officially dedicated the “George V. Voinovich Bridge.” A short program and ceremonial ribbon cutting will take place. The event will be held atop the new bridge – accessible from Ontario Street – beginning at 10:30 a.m. on Friday, November 8. Members of the public are invited to attend the event as well as enjoy the view from on top during a special “Bridge Preview.” A portion of the new bridge will be open for pedestrians from 9-10:30 a.m. Pedestrians may enter from Ontario Street ONLY. Paid, public parking is available in surface lots at E 9th and Carnegie, across from the BP Gas station. Short-term parking is also available around the Gateway Plaza (between The Q and Progressive Field.) Even better – Ride RTA’s bus or rapid to Tower City, only a short walk! http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D12/Deputy%20Director/News/Pages/Please-Join-Us-in-Celebrating-the-NEW-I-90-Innerbelt-Bridge.aspx
November 8, 201311 yr Too bad there is no pedestrian/bike path on there permanently. Would have made a nice feature for Tremont commuters.
November 8, 201311 yr Cutting a ribbon on the new westbound Inner Belt bridge. Can you name all of the officials shown? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 8, 201311 yr ^bashful, doc, dopey, grumpy, happy, sleepy and sneezy...not necessarily in that order
November 8, 201311 yr ^bashful, doc, dopey, grumpy, happy, sleepy and sneezy...not necessarily in that order "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 8, 201311 yr Too bad there is no pedestrian/bike path on there permanently. Would have made a nice feature for Tremont commuters. Agreed, but $40 million for a bike path with an extensive ramp system to make up for the elevation changes was a cost that couldn't be compensated. Instead, they installed the Lorain-Carnegie cyclepath, which is a better alternative as it actually connects to populated centers and is just as a direct route as the proposed ramp system would have been for the Innerbelt Bridge. I think the study was that the Lorain-Carnegie - Abbey route only added 20 seconds to the trip. My only disappointment was that a dedicated cyclepath wasn't put on Abbey - it's just bike lanes.
November 9, 201311 yr Agreed, but $40 million for a bike path with an extensive ramp system to make up for the elevation changes was a cost that couldn't be compensated. Instead, they installed the Lorain-Carnegie cyclepath, which is a better alternative as it actually connects to populated centers and is just as a direct route as the proposed ramp system would have been for the Innerbelt Bridge. I think the study was that the Lorain-Carnegie - Abbey route only added 20 seconds to the trip. My only disappointment was that a dedicated cyclepath wasn't put on Abbey - it's just bike lanes. It's certainly not as direct for Tremonters, but the multipurpose path has been nice for Ohio City. I'm glad the city got concessions out of ODOT, but our neighborhood didn't get much out of the deal.
November 9, 201311 yr Too bad there is no pedestrian/bike path on there permanently. Would have made a nice feature for Tremont commuters. Agreed, but $40 million for a bike path with an extensive ramp system to make up for the elevation changes was a cost that couldn't be compensated. Instead, they installed the Lorain-Carnegie cyclepath, which is a better alternative as it actually connects to populated centers and is just as a direct route as the proposed ramp system would have been for the Innerbelt Bridge. I think the study was that the Lorain-Carnegie - Abbey route only added 20 seconds to the trip. My only disappointment was that a dedicated cyclepath wasn't put on Abbey - it's just bike lanes. I still feel that $40 million figure comes from the same foggy math of RTA Joe C's estimates of per-mile rail construction costs. How can it cost $40 million to ad an 8' extension and some fencing on the west facade of the bridge? $40 million sounds like a good number from a bunch of ODOT guys trying to figure out how to keep money out of Cleveland in in sound walls....
November 9, 201311 yr Hard to believe the final product is even more dull, uninspired and banal than the existing (soon to be torn down) Interbelt Bridge. Congratulations, ODOT! Mission accomplished.
November 11, 201311 yr I drove the new bridge last night, entering from Ontario. Anyone else try this? I think the access routing from Ontario is very confusing. You have to "exit" Ontario before you get to Carnegie. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 12, 201311 yr I drove it coming from the Clinic down Carnegie. Seemed just fine to me. Then again it's a snowing and everyone is driving like its never snowed before.
November 13, 201311 yr I drove it coming from the Clinic down Carnegie. Seemed just fine to me. Then again it's a snowing and everyone is driving like its never snowed before. I can see it would be easier coming from Carnegie. You can enter the Inner Belt westbound at East 9th or Ontario. But try to enter it coming south on Ontario. It's very different from the way it used to be. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 24, 201311 yr The Innerbelt Bridge has been reopened in both directions (~36 hours early), and Phase I of the project is done: Interstate 90 is now OPEN in its entirety and all traffic is traveling over the new Innerbelt Bridge! Traffic is now in its final configuration for construction of the second bridge. http://bit.ly/1h9Mdkq
November 24, 201311 yr It's amazing how much faster construction workers work when they're freezing their arses off! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 13, 201411 yr At the end of last week and again this morning, I've noticed a little bit of construction related activity on the old bridge. It looked like they were starting to remove some of the street lights this morning.
January 14, 201411 yr 'They blowed up good, they blowed up real good' Old Inner Belt Bridge steel skeleton to be blown up in a controlled demolition http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/01/old_inner_belt_bridge_steel_sk.html#incart_river_default
January 15, 201411 yr Here's a few pics of the "deconstruction" work that are posted online. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/01/video_and_slide_show_demolitio.html#incart_river_default
January 16, 201411 yr I sure hope they blow up the right bridge..... :P "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 17, 201411 yr And my morning commute has taken a few extra minutes because every yahoo in cleveland slows down to 9 miles an hour to miserly glare at the deconstruction work.
February 28, 201411 yr Here's some more pics from the Inner Belt Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/Innerbelt
March 28, 201411 yr Inner Belt Bridge steel skeleton to be blown up in June or July The demolition is now expected to occur in June or July on a weekend day. It is likely to be a one-time event, though ODOT is still studying whether it needs to have two explosions on separate days. ODOT wants to minimize how long it has to close off West Third Street, Canal Road and Commercial Road/Central Viaduct, underneath or next to the bridge. Doing the entire demolition in one fell swoop could create too much steel and debris to clean out while still managing to get the roads back in service for the Monday morning rush hour. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/03/old_inner_belt_bridge_now_expe.html#incart_river_default And a few updated pics from the Innerbelt Bridge facebook page https://www.facebook.com/Innerbelt
June 3, 201411 yr What looks like a scene from 'The Attack of the Spider Cranes' is actually the dismantling of the old innerbelt bridge over the CuyahogaRiver.
June 3, 201411 yr Love that shot! Does anyone by any chance know what they are doing with the deconstructed steel?
June 22, 201410 yr So it looks like construction south of 90 has begun. Which includes the removal of the two ramps to 77 and the realignment of Orange ave. to something less cluttered than it is now. I know ramps are not that exciting but it will clean up that area and remove two roads. It states the realignment of the roads would be ready this fall with the rest coming later.
July 8, 201410 yr Controlled Demolition of Old Innerbelt Bridge to Take Place July 12 Hold on to your hats! The Ohio Department of Transportation (ODOT) and Trumbull-Great Lakes-Ruhlin (TGR) are pleased to announce that controlled explosive demolition of the steel skeleton of the 1959 Innerbelt Bridge will take place at first light on Saturday morning July 12. Controlled demolition will drop five (5) of the nine (9) steel spans of the old bridge. The team which includes Joseph B. Fay Company and Controlled Demolition, Inc. has used a mixture of both traditional demolition along with the “controlled” – or explosive – demolition method. The bridge railings, lights, barriers and concrete driving surface were all removed using traditional methods. Specific spans over the river and railroads were also disassembled in a traditional manner. Concrete piers will be demolished this summer using traditional methods. The plan protects the businesses that operate from the Flats as well as people living and working in the Tremont neighborhood. Members of the public are invited to watch the event live at www.Cleveland.com or www.wkyc.com. Due to limited view-sheds, only a small public viewing area near the corner of East 14th Street and Broadway Avenue is available. The area will be accessible beginning at 5:30 a.m. on Saturday, July 12. Paid, public parking is available in downtown lots – a short walk from the viewing area. Even better, ride with our friends at RTA! The #19 bus provides direct access to the site. Visit www.rideRTA.com for more! A 1,000 foot perimeter will be set around the blast zone and many local roadways including I-90, the Lorain-Carnegie Bridge, Abbey Avenue and others will be closed during the event. For a map of anticipated closures and closures times, please log-on to www.Innerbelt.org. ODOT is in the midst of replacing the 1959 bridge with two new structures – one to carry traffic in each direction. The pair have been named in honor of statesman George V. Voinovich. Replacement of the 1959 bridge is vital to the success of moving people in and out of downtown Cleveland now and in the future. It will enhance capacity, bolster our economy and ensure the safety of motorists. The first of the pair is now open and temporarily carrying traffic in both directions until completion of the second new bridge in late 2016. Members of the public with questions or concerns are encouraged to call the Innerbelt hotline at 216.344.0069 or email [email protected].
July 8, 201410 yr Controlled Demolition of Old Innerbelt Bridge to Take Place July 12 Hold on to your hats! The Ohio Department of Transportation (ODOT) and Trumbull-Great Lakes-Ruhlin (TGR) are pleased to announce that controlled explosive demolition of the steel skeleton of the 1959 Innerbelt Bridge will take place at first light on Saturday morning July 12. Controlled demolition will drop five (5) of the nine (9) steel spans of the old bridge. The team which includes Joseph B. Fay Company and Controlled Demolition, Inc. has used a mixture of both traditional demolition along with the “controlled” – or explosive – demolition method. The bridge railings, lights, barriers and concrete driving surface were all removed using traditional methods. Specific spans over the river and railroads were also disassembled in a traditional manner. Concrete piers will be demolished this summer using traditional methods. The plan protects the businesses that operate from the Flats as well as people living and working in the Tremont neighborhood. Members of the public are invited to watch the event live at www.Cleveland.com or www.wkyc.com. Due to limited view-sheds, only a small public viewing area near the corner of East 14th Street and Broadway Avenue is available. The area will be accessible beginning at 5:30 a.m. on Saturday, July 12. Paid, public parking is available in downtown lots – a short walk from the viewing area. Even better, ride with our friends at RTA! The #19 bus provides direct access to the site. Visit www.rideRTA.com for more! A 1,000 foot perimeter will be set around the blast zone and many local roadways including I-90, the Lorain-Carnegie Bridge, Abbey Avenue and others will be closed during the event. For a map of anticipated closures and closures times, please log-on to www.Innerbelt.org. ODOT is in the midst of replacing the 1959 bridge with two new structures – one to carry traffic in each direction. The pair have been named in honor of statesman George V. Voinovich. Replacement of the 1959 bridge is vital to the success of moving people in and out of downtown Cleveland now and in the future. It will enhance capacity, bolster our economy and ensure the safety of motorists. The first of the pair is now open and temporarily carrying traffic in both directions until completion of the second new bridge in late 2016. Members of the public with questions or concerns are encouraged to call the Innerbelt hotline at 216.344.0069 or email [email protected]. [insert popcorn eating smiley icon]
July 8, 201410 yr Controlled Demolition of Old Innerbelt Bridge to Take Place July 12 Hold on to your hats! The Ohio Department of Transportation (ODOT) and Trumbull-Great Lakes-Ruhlin (TGR) are pleased to announce that controlled explosive demolition of the steel skeleton of the 1959 Innerbelt Bridge will take place at first light on Saturday morning July 12. Controlled demolition will drop five (5) of the nine (9) steel spans of the old bridge. The team which includes Joseph B. Fay Company and Controlled Demolition, Inc. has used a mixture of both traditional demolition along with the “controlled” – or explosive – demolition method. The bridge railings, lights, barriers and concrete driving surface were all removed using traditional methods. Specific spans over the river and railroads were also disassembled in a traditional manner. Concrete piers will be demolished this summer using traditional methods. The plan protects the businesses that operate from the Flats as well as people living and working in the Tremont neighborhood. Members of the public are invited to watch the event live at www.Cleveland.com or www.wkyc.com. Due to limited view-sheds, only a small public viewing area near the corner of East 14th Street and Broadway Avenue is available. The area will be accessible beginning at 5:30 a.m. on Saturday, July 12. Paid, public parking is available in downtown lots – a short walk from the viewing area. Even better, ride with our friends at RTA! The #19 bus provides direct access to the site. Visit www.rideRTA.com for more! A 1,000 foot perimeter will be set around the blast zone and many local roadways including I-90, the Lorain-Carnegie Bridge, Abbey Avenue and others will be closed during the event. For a map of anticipated closures and closures times, please log-on to www.Innerbelt.org. ODOT is in the midst of replacing the 1959 bridge with two new structures – one to carry traffic in each direction. The pair have been named in honor of statesman George V. Voinovich. Replacement of the 1959 bridge is vital to the success of moving people in and out of downtown Cleveland now and in the future. It will enhance capacity, bolster our economy and ensure the safety of motorists. The first of the pair is now open and temporarily carrying traffic in both directions until completion of the second new bridge in late 2016. Members of the public with questions or concerns are encouraged to call the Innerbelt hotline at 216.344.0069 or email [email protected]. I fixed that for you! ThankYouVeryMuch.
July 8, 201410 yr Controlled Demolition of Old Innerbelt Bridge to Take Place July 12 Hold on to your hats! The Ohio Department of Transportation (ODOT) and Trumbull-Great Lakes-Ruhlin (TGR) are pleased to announce that controlled explosive demolition of the steel skeleton of the 1959 Innerbelt Bridge will take place at first light on Saturday morning July 12. Controlled demolition will drop five (5) of the nine (9) steel spans of the old bridge. The team which includes Joseph B. Fay Company and Controlled Demolition, Inc. has used a mixture of both traditional demolition along with the “controlled” – or explosive – demolition method. The bridge railings, lights, barriers and concrete driving surface were all removed using traditional methods. Specific spans over the river and railroads were also disassembled in a traditional manner. Concrete piers will be demolished this summer using traditional methods. The plan protects the businesses that operate from the Flats as well as people living and working in the Tremont neighborhood. Members of the public are invited to watch the event live at www.Cleveland.com or www.wkyc.com. Due to limited view-sheds, only a small public viewing area near the corner of East 14th Street and Broadway Avenue is available. The area will be accessible beginning at 5:30 a.m. on Saturday, July 12. Paid, public parking is available in downtown lots – a short walk from the viewing area. Even better, ride with our friends at RTA! The #19 bus provides direct access to the site. Visit www.rideRTA.com for more! A 1,000 foot perimeter will be set around the blast zone and many local roadways including I-90, the Lorain-Carnegie Bridge, Abbey Avenue and others will be closed during the event. For a map of anticipated closures and closures times, please log-on to www.Innerbelt.org. ODOT is in the midst of replacing the 1959 bridge with two new structures – one to carry traffic in each direction. The pair have been named in honor of statesman George V. Voinovich. Replacement of the 1959 bridge is vital to the success of moving people in and out of downtown Cleveland now and in the future. It will enhance capacity, bolster our economy and ensure the safety of motorists. The first of the pair is now open and temporarily carrying traffic in both directions until completion of the second new bridge in late 2016. Members of the public with questions or concerns are encouraged to call the Innerbelt hotline at 216.344.0069 or email [email protected]. I fixed that for you! ThankYouVeryMuch.
July 12, 201410 yr is anybody on uo going to watch the innerbelt demo? i hope so. take pics - it should be quite a sight.
July 12, 201410 yr I didn't see it, but a massive metallic crash like a roll of thunder woke me up from my sleep, then my whole building shook for a little while like an earth quake.
July 12, 201410 yr The Clevaland.com video footage is pretty cool: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/07/55-year-old_inner_belt_bridge.html#incart_2box Also cool how so many people got up early to watch it.
July 12, 201410 yr I went to see the takedown this morning, and it was very cool to watch. StrapHanger, thanks for posting the video. Anyone watching the video, here is a little insight. You will notice the video shows what looks like two blasts very close together. There was a reason for this. The first quick blast was to scare off any birds, specifically Peregrine Falcons. As it was known by the state that Peregrine Falcons were nesting on the bridge, the state wanted to scare them away (if there were any still there just before the demo). Also, the news reports were saying there were approx. 1k people watching the demo blast from the official watch site at E14, but having viewed the demo from Tremont, there had to be at least half that amount of people there also.
September 12, 201410 yr Noise of pile driving on Inner Belt Bridge cranking up today http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/09/noise_of_pile_driving_on_inner.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 12, 201410 yr ^They actually started yesterday. The difference between the hydraulic and diesel drivers is incredible. You would really only hear the hydraulic drivers if your windows were open or you were outside and it was relatively quiet, but I can't seem to escape these diesel monsters. At least they shut them down at a reasonable hour.
September 12, 201410 yr ^They actually started yesterday. The difference between the hydraulic and diesel drivers is incredible. You would really only hear the hydraulic drivers if your windows were open or you were outside and it was relatively quiet, but I can't seem to escape these diesel monsters. At least they shut them down at a reasonable hour. but they start as early as at 630 am >:D I live on west 11th, they're relatively quiet, but my floors and walls vibrate when they pile drive. Regardless, I like living there; I would just like to know when they're doing it and for how long.
September 12, 201410 yr ^They actually started yesterday. The article is dated yesterday. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 2, 201410 yr WHOA!!! Big news! And "a unique “on-structure” intersection" sounds like the perfect way to handle the task. State Keeps Access to Carnegie Unique intersection will maintain direct access to MidTown Cleveland CLEVELAND (Thursday, October 2, 2014) – State transportation officials, under the direction of Governor John R. Kasich, have agreed to maintain access to Cleveland’s MidTown corridor during the complete reconstruction of the city’s Innerbelt. The decision was made following requests from the local community and legislators to take MidTown access into consideration. The Ohio Department of Transportation (ODOT) has proposed a unique “on-structure” intersection – an elevated intersection above interstate 90 – in order to maintain access to the MidTown Health and Technology Corridor via Carnegie Avenue on Cleveland’s near-east side. “This is an important step in continuing the modernization of the Cleveland Innerbelt Corridor,” said state Representative Bill Patmon. “I share the concerns the MidTown community had with ODOT’s previous plan and the department responded by reexamining the area and improving the plan. I’m happy with the response, but we still have more work to do. Governor Kasich is fair and open-minded. He is a strong advocate for Cleveland and I’m excited to continue our work together on this issue.” The improved MidTown access and “on-structure” intersection would look somewhat similar to the West Goodale Street and Park Street intersection, over interstate 670 in the city of Columbus. ODOT will continue to work with its stakeholders regarding the aesthetic look and feel of the newly created area. “Over the last thirteen years we've heard from stakeholders that the previous plan was unacceptable,” said state Representative Sandra Williams. “I am pleased that the administration has worked diligently with the community to devise a plan that may be acceptable given a few tweaks.” The estimated cost of the improvement is roughly $20 million dollars. Once funding is identified, construction of this portion of the Innerbelt Plan could begin as early as 2017. About ODOT’s Innerbelt Modernization Plan: The multi-billion dollar Cleveland Innerbelt Modernization Plan is comprised of seven “Contract Groups” and is focused on improving safety, reducing congestion and modernizing interstate travel in and around Downtown Cleveland. This investment will rehabilitate and reconstruct about five miles of interstate roadways and address operational, design, safety and access shortcomings. ODOT is in the midst of replacing the 1959 “Innerbelt Bridge” with two new structures – one to carry traffic in each direction. The pair have been named in honor of statesman George V. Voinovich. The first of the pair is open and temporarily carrying traffic in both directions until completion of the second bridge in late 2016. For more information on this project and others along the Innerbelt Corridor, please visit www.Innerbelt.org. ###
October 2, 201410 yr Pretty rudimentary graphic at the link below..... ODOT says new Inner Belt plan would keep direct access to Carnegie, Midtown By Alison Grant, The Plain Dealer on October 02, 2014 at 11:25 AM, updated October 02, 2014 at 11:37 AM CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Vital access off Interstate 90 to Carnegie Avenue and the burgeoning Midtown business district would be retained under a plan released by the Ohio Department of Transportation this morning. The state proposes a unique "roof" over a section of eastbound I-90 at the East 22nd exit that would let motorists reach Carnegie in a direct line from the elevated exit off the freeway. The I-90 cap, over the eastbound lanes only, would cost $20 million, money the state is willing to pay, ODOT officials said in an interview with the Plain Dealer. READ MORE AT: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/10/odot_says_new_inner_belt_plan.html#incart_river "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 2, 201410 yr Thanks. That graphic demonstrates it better. But I don't like the new Cedar curve into new East 25th extension which will allow traffic to move faster through that area and increase the danger for pedestrians. Of course, that's why ODOT proposed it. They don't care about pedestrians and only want more traffic to move faster. That intersection needs the treatment of West 25th at Detroit Avenue, where the county engineers removed the gentle right-turn from Detroit Avenue westbound to West 25th northbound and then onto the West Shoreway that let traffic move fast through that intersection. It was replaced with a conventional intersection and hard-right turn that forced traffic to slow down. This needs to be replicated at Cedar/East 25th. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 2, 201410 yr So the article says ODOT will continue with its plan to shut down the Prospect Ave ramps: "ODOT agreed to search for alternatives to closing Carnegie --- it has said that keeping the Prospect ramp shut is a certainty." So what happens to the land that the ramps are currently on? Given back to the City to be parceled out and sold?
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