December 14, 200717 yr Oh that's nice looking! Finally a condo for Dayton to be proud of! Where did you get this Billy? Is there a larger rendering? I know people... :wink2: Unfortunately this is the best pic I could get (sorry, it isn't great). One thing we should remember is that this is just a rendering - if it does get built then it may end up very different. The people I've talked to say that the developer is a bit of a mystery, though Pinnacle is a reputable firm. Let's hope that this project actually sees shovel in the dirt next year.
December 15, 200717 yr Well, the one thing I noticed is that Messer's name is on the rendering. That makes me feel much better about the chances of this project going up. Guess it's just wait and see now.
December 15, 200717 yr If it's built with quality building materials then good...if not then bad, but that just about holds true for any design in my opinion. Overall it is something different for the Midwest, and especially different for Dayton. That in and of itself can be a very good thing...especially when dealing with ingrained perceptions.
February 20, 200817 yr None yet. I keep an eye out on the proposed property for any work, signs or sampling. If I see anything, I will post it promptly!
April 22, 200817 yr Does anyone have an update or know the status of this project!? I've been thinking about it lately. . .and haven't heard a thing!!
November 4, 200816 yr Absolutely nothing. Looks like to be another dead project...then again Ballpark Village is all but dead, so who knows. BTW, sorry about the delay in posting. Been a busy summer! ;-)
November 16, 200816 yr Good news! This project is still going. Just drove by the site this evening and there is a sign now erected for this project! Took a couple pics, I'll post later this evening. Please move this out of abandoned projects, thanks. :clap:
November 17, 200816 yr Seriously?!?! That's fantastic news! I can't wait to see the pics. . I hope they have a rendering of the building! Thanks for the update
November 17, 200816 yr I can't get the pics uploaded to Urban Ohio from my PDA, so as soon as I get a chance to transfer the pics to my PC, I'll get them posted. It's basically the same rough sketch we have seen already, so nothing new there, but it does have leasing and sales information listed, so that is good news. My guess is they are going to see how much they can pre-fill before they go full swing with this. I would like to know what percentage they want to do before going forward. Hopefully we'll hear something soon.
November 17, 200816 yr Oh wow, sorry about the pics guys. They came out like crap! But here they are.
November 18, 200816 yr Cool looking building. Anyone hear rumors thats Dayton & Cincy are combining or at least are "trying" to combine to form a large Cincinnati/Dayton metropolis. Ya know, similar to what happened with Dallas and Ft. Worth? it's just that northern Cincy is booming with all the suburb crap.
November 18, 200816 yr Cool looking building. Anyone hear rumors thats Dayton & Cincy are combining or at least are "trying" to combine to form a large Cincinnati/Dayton metropolis. Ya know, similar to what happened with Dallas and Ft. Worth? it's just that northern Cincy is booming with all the suburb crap. Yes, http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,12190.0.html
November 19, 200816 yr Seeing the sign makes me happy and gives me a little hope that this project just might happen, and I'd be elated if it did. But given the economy, my fear is that it won't
November 23, 200816 yr Seeing the sign makes me happy and gives me a little hope that this project just might happen, and I'd be elated if it did. But given the economy, my fear is that it won't Normally I would agree, but in this case, Dayton doesn't really have a high end condo highrise overlooking the river and I think that may be very attractive to young professionals working in the CBD.
November 24, 200816 yr Seeing the sign makes me happy and gives me a little hope that this project just might happen, and I'd be elated if it did. But given the economy, my fear is that it won't Normally I would agree, but in this case, Dayton doesn't really have a high end condo highrise overlooking the river and I think that may be very attractive to young professionals working in the CBD. I hope it goes through! It would be awesome for Dayton if it did happen.
July 20, 200915 yr ^Great question With GM going bankrupt and companies like Iams/NCR/Cooper Tire relocating, I can't see how lenders would think Dayton could support this. "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
July 20, 200915 yr ^Great question With GM going bankrupt and companies like Iams/NCR/Cooper Tire relocating, I can't see how lenders would think Dayton could support this. What about the 1200 jobs that will be relocating to Wright Patterson, along with an undetermined amount of contractors (estimated 1000 or more). Those will be higher paying than any warehouse jobs at Cooper tire, or back office jobs at NCR. The Iams employees are not losing their jobs, they will just move to a different facility. Cooper says it will add jobs to its other factories after the Albany Georgia plant is closed, eliminating 1400 jobs and offering some the option to transfer.
July 20, 200915 yr ^ Those companies (NCR, Cooper) also employed higher paid managers, executives. My point was Dayton is bleeding companies and I'd be surprised if this gets built without 75% pre-sale commitments. A friend of mine has one of those new positions at WPAFB. He'll be commuting from Columbus. Cooper can't add jobs to a warehouse they no longer use... "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
July 20, 200915 yr ^ Those companies (NCR, Cooper) also employed higher paid managers, executives. My point was Dayton is bleeding companies and I'd be surprised if this gets built without 75% pre-sale commitments. A friend of mine has one of those new positions at WPAFB. He'll be commuting from Columbus. Cooper can't add jobs to a warehouse they no longer use... Cooper is offering some of the georgia workers transfers to other factories, not the warehouse (reread post above). Every business employs higher paid managers, even fast food... All the jobs transferring to Wright Patterson are high paying, including the contractors. My point was that those jobs have been replaced, with higher paying jobs none the less. This condo project does not hinge on any one company not directly related to the project, if that were the case nothing would ever be built in this country. If you haven't noticed, america is in a real financial pinch, how could you expect this project to start when projects across the country have halted during construction.
July 20, 200915 yr Cooper offering these transfers is great and all, but there isn't a factory in Dayton. Only an empty warehouse that sits for sale. AGAIN, my point has been that Dayton continues to lose companies. With or without America's "financial pinch", this project is a long shot. And to those jobs transferring to WPAFB, in Greene County, great! It'll have little effect on Downtown Dayton and more of an effect on the likes of Beavercreek, Riverside, Yellow Springs. "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
July 21, 200915 yr You guys remember that this is URBAN Ohio, right? Not "bash the promising-looking but dead at the moment" city in our state.com. Look, this project probably won't happen, but I would be thrilled if it did. We Daytonians (or Daytonnatians, as I guess we should be called now) need something bright and new to look to for some hope that doesn't lie within 10 miles of the Ohio River or in a suburb. Let us have our moment.
July 22, 200915 yr You guys remember that this is URBAN Ohio, right? Not "bash the promising-looking but dead at the moment" city in our state.com. Look, this project probably won't happen, but I would be thrilled if it did. We Daytonians (or Daytonnatians, as I guess we should be called now) need something bright and new to look to for some hope that doesn't lie within 10 miles of the Ohio River or in a suburb. Let us have our moment. Ahhh.... Coming from one who lived in the area back in the late 80's through the early 90's, good luck on having your moment. I hope Dayton can bounce back someday but I wouldn't hold my breath.
July 22, 200915 yr You guys remember that this is URBAN Ohio, right? Not "bash the promising-looking but dead at the moment" city in our state.com. Look, this project probably won't happen, but I would be thrilled if it did. We Daytonians (or Daytonnatians, as I guess we should be called now) need something bright and new to look to for some hope that doesn't lie within 10 miles of the Ohio River or in a suburb. Let us have our moment. This post baffles me. Why would you want some yuppie condos to be built at the height of the real estate crisis? The cost of real estate is plummeting, particularly in Dayton, Ohio. Why would anyone buy a condo in a vacant downtown for $200,000 when they can get an estate in the suburbs for 110,000? There is clearly no market for this product. Wouldn't the investor's money be better spent on a project that is economically viable (that the community wants)?
January 31, 201411 yr Looks like this might be back online: http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/riverfront-condo-tower-reapproved-by-city/nc6P5/ And I don't think it was linked before, but here is the project website. If their financials they posted are correct, it looks like it is pretty solid http://thevisionatriversedge.com/
January 31, 201411 yr It clearly mimics the old YMCA Building but hey, Grafton Hill has a nice view of the city so why not. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 31, 201411 yr Looks like this might be back online: http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/riverfront-condo-tower-reapproved-by-city/nc6P5/ And I don't think it was linked before, but here is the project website. If their financials they posted are correct, it looks like it is pretty solid http://thevisionatriversedge.com/ So Cool. This will be very nice.
February 16, 20169 yr Dayton Art Institute kicks off $2.2M in construction Dayton Art Institute is moving along with $2.2 million in planned construction at its Dayton campus. The institute says the facility upgrades underway are an effort to prepare for the 2019 centennial celebration for DAI. Funding for its upgrades was made possible by money from the 2014 state capital appropriations bill. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/blog/2016/02/dayton-art-institute-kicks-off-2-2m-in-constructio.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 29, 20168 yr Grafton Hill housing project could be ready by fall A project to renovate two historic homes in Grafton Hill Historic District to serve temporary tenants could be ready for guests this fall. A $513,000 residential project in the northwest Dayton historic neighborhood was approved for $106,000 in historic tax credits from the Ohio Development Services Agency. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/blog/morning_call/2016/06/grafton-hill-housing-project-could-be-ready-by.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 25, 20168 yr Investors buy Grafton Hill apartments for $1.4 million An investment group bought a portfolio of Grafton Hill apartments for $1.4 million with plans to extensively renovate the buildings. With the 10-story Commodore Apartments as the portfolio flagship, H&MG Acquisitions bought four multi-family properties in the Dayton neighborhood in a sale that closed Thursday. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2016/07/22/investors-buy-grafton-hill-apartments-for-1-4.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 29, 20168 yr :clap: Dayton Art Institute seeks to reopen historic front staircase The Dayton Art Institute wants to reopen its historic front staircase to the public, but it could be an expensive job. The museum hopes to renovate and reopen the prominent, mulit-story front staircase and its water fountain on the eastern facade of its Belmonte Park building. Once the main entrance of the museum, that entrance is no longer open to the public, with its main entryway instead shifted to the western side of the museum near the parking lot. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2016/11/29/dayton-art-instituteseeks-to-reopen-historic-front.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 29, 20168 yr It's such a grand entryway but it needs a LOT of work. The frescoes in the upper balcony are crumbling away and that staircase seems to be on the verge of falling down the hill. It'll be so nice to have that area all fixed up. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
December 8, 20168 yr This is in Five Oaks but this thread works for that... $1.2M project to improve Dayton charter school campus A Dayton charter school is preparing to start the second phase of a $1.2 million campus project, aided by state funding for high performing charters. DECA Prep was awarded a $778,000 one-to-one match for the project at the 200 Homewood Ave. elementary school that will add 4,000 square feet of space and connect two existing buildings, said Superintendent Judy Hennessey. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2016/12/07/1-2m-project-to-improve-dayton-charter-school.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 5, 20178 yr Dayton Art Institute completes wing renovation The Dayton Art Institute is reopening a wing today that has been under renovation. The Berry Wing of European Art opens at 11 a.m. following gallery renovations, according to a press release from the museum. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2017/01/04/dayton-art-institute-completes-renovation.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 19, 20178 yr $6M proposal could bring Dayton apartments back to life The owner is seeking tax credits to help finance a renovation of the building. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2017/04/19/6m-proposal-could-bring-dayton-apartments-back-to.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
December 1, 20177 yr Dayton Art Institute seeks $2.5M to renovate historic building The project would complete the hillside/historic stairs renovation, and replace the original lower-level gallery windows in an effort to protect the institute's collections. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2017/12/01/dayton-art-institute-seeks-2-5m-to-renovate.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 6, 20186 yr Dayton Art Institute investing millions in restoration efforts ahead of centennial As the Dayton Art Institute readies for its centennial, museum leaders are drawing up plans – and drumming up the funds — to restore many historical features to their original glory. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2018/09/06/dayton-art-institute-investing-millions-in.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 19, 20204 yr First look: Dayton apartment complex moves forward with redevelopment project A downtown Dayton apartment complex redevelopment project is officially moving forward, bringing new energy to an area that's been stagnant for years. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2020/10/19/downtown-dayton-apartment-complex-project.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
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