Posted February 11, 200718 yr I will be relocating to Cleveland next June and I wonder if you guys could help with some information. I am 33 years old and I will be working as resident physician at the Cleveland Clinic/ I need a 2/2 apartment within 15min of the clinic since I will need to be at work very early in the mornings (before 6 am) and occasionally will have to go there in the middle of the night. I have seen some apartments in Downtown that seem nice but I am unsure about safety and noise levels What other neighborhoods should I consider that meet my criteria? How about Shaker Heights, Cleveland Heights and University Circle > Are they nice and safe? Thanks in advance
February 11, 200718 yr Hi, and welcome to the forum! Downtown would be a very fun place to live, and it actually is pretty safe, but you're right to be concerned about noise, especially on the weekends. The noisiest areas downtown are probably the Warehouse District and anywhere near E. 4th street. However, you'd be very close to the Clinic, and once the Euclid corridor project is finished, getting there will be even easier. University Circle is also nice (there's a ton of cultural stuff to do,) and safe, but it may be noisy depending on how close you are to Case Western University's campus. Cleveland Heights and Shaker Heights are both suburbs, and I can't tell you much about them, but Shaker may be a little pricey. If you wanted to live in Cleveland Heights, check out the Coventry Road area. You might also want to look at Shaker Square, which is actually part of Cleveland proper, but borders Shaker Heights. It's a really nice neighborhood.
February 11, 200718 yr I think downtown is rather safe (but do not what your frame of reference is..) All the places you named are great and within 15 minutes of the Clinic. Any of the areas can be a little loud (or very quiet) depending on your exact location. What exactly do you like to do when you are not working (eat, drink, the arts, recreation etc)? That may help people recommend areas you will like. I have to say though, you picked all good possibilities!
February 11, 200718 yr I’ve lived downtown in the Gateway neighborhood for over a year and I've never had a problem with crime or noise. If you're really concerned about noise check out The Statler, The Osborne or Huron Square in the Theater District. The area is pretty quiet at night but it's only a short walk or cab ride from East 4th or West 6th. Also, take at a look at the Cedar/Fairmount area of Cleveland Heights. It's not even ten minutes from the Clinic and offers some very reasonably priced housing options.
February 11, 200718 yr Welcome to our little world. Shaker Square, Cedar-Fairmont, Euclid Hts. Blvd in Cleveland Hts are all nice places to live for young folks. There are also homes in the Hough area of Cleveland which is within walking distance of the clinic. I suggest you look at some other "i'm moving to Cleveland" threads and look at photos of the various neighborhoods to get a better sense of what some o fht areas are like. In order to help you more, as Peabody, suggested will need a lil more information on some of your needs. Have you been here to scope out some 'hoods yet? Where are you relocating from and what neighborhood do you live in now so we can point you to something similar if you want to relocate to a neighborhood that is close to it.
February 11, 200718 yr Try these resources to get an idea of what may be available by the time June rolls around.... http://www.pluggedincleveland.com/ http://www.rent.com/rentals/ohio/cleveland-and-vicinity/cleveland/university-circle/ http://www.clv-lofts.com/ http://www.landmarkmgt.com/ (a few specialized listings & nice music!) http://www.downtownapartments.com/ (a few specialized listings but no music...) http://www.warehousedistrict.org/district/ http://www.historicgateway.org/HousingDirectory.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 11, 200718 yr Thanks very much for all the replies Here is some more information about me I am married and we don't have any kids yet. We are both young professionals and enjoy going out to restaurants, sporting events and to the movies. I currently live in Queens NY (Forest Hills). It's not as lively as manhattan but is not a suburb either (acturally there are quite a few restaurants, stores and movie theaters) If possible I would like to relocate to a neighborhood that is close to Forest Hills I think I would enjoy living in a neighborhood with some restaurants and nightlife but I don't want to be disturb by a bunch of people coming out of a bar at 3 am. I am planning to travel to Cleveland soon and take a look at the neighborhoods. The information you guys are giving is very helpfull since I will only have two days to do my research
February 11, 200718 yr Thanks very much for all the replies Here is some more information about me I am married and we don't have any kids yet. We are both young professionals and enjoy going out to restaurants, sporting events and to the movies. I currently live in Queens NY (Forest Hills). It's not as lively as manhattan but is not a suburb either (acturally there are quite a few restaurants, stores and movie theaters) If possible I would like to relocate to a neighborhood that is close to Forest Hills I think I would enjoy living in a neighborhood with some restaurants and nightlife but I don't want to be disturb by a bunch of people coming out of a bar at 3 am. I am planning to travel to Cleveland soon and take a look at the neighborhoods. The information you guys are giving is very helpfull since I will only have two days to do my research We'll good. there are quite a few of us that live in NYC, I'm just over in harlem. I think Fairmont-Cedar would be similar to forest hills 71-continental area. Did you look over in the city photos-ohio thread?
February 11, 200718 yr There are a lot of pictures about the Cleveland downtown (Skyline) but I could not find much in terms of specific neighborhoods.
February 11, 200718 yr There are a lot of pictures about the Cleveland downtown (Skyline) but I could not find much in terms of specific neighborhoods. You can do a search. using neighborhood names.
February 11, 200718 yr Is the playhouse square and Theater district the same? How are the Warehouse district and the theater district different? They are both in downtown but the rent seems to be cheaper in the theater district and some of the buildings are really nice (Osborne building looks great)
February 11, 200718 yr Just my humble opinions on downtown living: Warehouse District - very trendy, upscale neighborhood of recent warehouse conversions on West 6th and 9th (Bingham, National Terminal, ,etc.) and one newer construction high rise (Crittenden). Several excellent, high-end restaurants (Metropolitan, Johnny's, Blue Point, Chophouse) and Cleveland's trendiest nightclubs. There is also a grocery in the neighborhood (Constantino's) and a liquor agent. Upside is that apartments are very nice, newly redone buildings with fitness centers and services such as dry cleaning. Downside is that the streets are fairly clogged on the weekends with diners and club goers, especially West 6th. Gateway/East 4th - also trendy, with more of a sports emphasis due to the arena and baseball stadium nearby. Sports bars (Winking Lizard, Panini) around the stadium, more upscale choices on East 4th (Flannery's, House of Blues, Corner Alley, Lola). There's a CVS drugstore on East 9th, but no nearby grocery or convenience store. Most of the buildings are smaller conversions than in the Warehouse District. Parking/traffic can be a hassle on game days (which is over 120 days a year). Both Gateway and the Warehouse districts are a short walk to Tower City/Public Square. Theatre District/Playhouse Square - a couple of high rise choices (Reserve Square, Chesterfield), as well as conversions like the Statler. Nightlife and street activity revolves around the theaters, otherwise pretty quiet. There is a grocery in the Reserve Square complex. Parking/traffic not much of a problem except around curtain time. Cleveland State campus is also nearby, but not much of a college scene except the Rascal House and Peabody's for live music/cheap beer. I agree with you on the Osborne - I've always wanted to see one of those corner suites with the round room. It's a good location between Gateway and the theaters too. If you're looking to the heights area, I lived in Cedar Fairmount for three years while working in University Circle and loved it. It's a very walkable little neighborhood with a grocery, pharmacy, coffee shop, bakery, and a couple nice restaurants (Nighttown, Mad Greek) and a Jillian's billiard club. I wish I could remember who my landlord was - I lived in the Wilson on Lennox, a nice one-block street of 1920's era buildings between Cedar and Euclid Heights. Cleveland Heights Housing Service is actually very helpful - because so many of the buildings are small, there are a lot of different landlords and not many have websites or advertising - the housing service keeps a list of available rentals and will actually go with you on a tour of the neighborhoods and apartments. (too bad the Cleve Hts police aren't quite so friendly when you're speeding down Mayfield to work, or when your meter expires on Coventry). Check out www.clevelandheights.com and click on relocation. The downside to living in the suburbs is paying income tax both to the city of Cleveland and the suburb you live in (you will learn to curse the witch named RITA [Regional Income Tax Authority]) If you're thinking about Little Italy/Murray Hill, you should stop in at or call Holy Rosary Parish on Mayfield - in the past, I know they kept a list of available rental property in the neighborhood.
February 11, 200718 yr Thanks very much for all the replies Here is some more information about me I am married and we don't have any kids yet. We are both young professionals and enjoy going out to restaurants, sporting events and to the movies. I currently live in Queens NY (Forest Hills). It's not as lively as manhattan but is not a suburb either (actually there are quite a few restaurants, stores and movie theaters) If possible I would like to relocate to a neighborhood that is close to Forest Hills I think I would enjoy living in a neighborhood with some restaurants and nightlife but I don't want to be disturb by a bunch of people coming out of a bar at 3 am. I am planning to travel to Cleveland soon and take a look at the neighborhoods. The information you guys are giving is very helpfull since I will only have two days to do my research I've been to Forest Hills a number of times, and of all the Cleveland areas mentioned -- all good btw -- Shaker Square would be the most familiar to you as it's very similar to Forest Hills albeit on a slightly smaller scale (hey, FH is New York, this is Cleveland, but still good). Like FH, Shaker Square is city but with a suburban feel -- it's right next door to old-money Shaker Heights, after all. Like FH, the Square has lots of classic old apartment buildings -- many in the Tudor style similar to FH, esp the classic, beautiful block-long Moreland Courts condo, which abuts the NE quadrant of the Square, proper -- stores, shops, restaurants and clubs, and this includes the nearby (1-block away) Larchmere Blvd district which also doubles as the East Side's prime antiques area. Also like FH, Shaker Sq is transit friendly -- a 12 min ride downtown by rapid transit with a connection to directly inside Hopkins Int'l airport... Also like FH, you can walk a few minutes from the urban milieu directly into the lush green winding roadways of mansions, small public (Shaker Heights) parks along the gorgeous Shaker Lakes... And last but not least, (and perhaps most importantly ... to me, anyway), the Square is super diverse, liberal, artsy and intellectual -- more so than most any area in NEO. Given this, it is very open-minded and open to all religions, races, ethnic groups and sex-orientation. And here's a super bonus, when you do decide to have kids: although Shaker Square is in Cleveland, kids attend Shaker Heights schools, still among the best public schools in the nation. ... check it out.
February 11, 200718 yr Welcome. Another NYer in the midst. I would go with Cleveland Heights' Cedar-Fairmont or Coventry Areas. Both are young fun close to the job and you get HUGE apartments. I just suggest visiting all areas in the morning and the evening so you see what you commute will be like and what the neighborhood is like at both time. I grew up in Cleveland Heights...go for it! Its a great suburb with three fun districts and lots of young couples/families. Its extremely diverse and tolerant. Very urban in the suburbs. If you live in CF area or the Coventry area, you could actually take a number of buses to the clinic. You should also check the Cleveland Clinic's website they give you neighborhood recommendations and I do know that you could be eligible for reduced rent in some cases if you go with a clinic suggested landlord. I would check around the clinic for apartments as well, there are lots of nice buildings in hough, or little Italy.
February 11, 200718 yr If I did not live in the downtown vicinity and had to live anywhere outside of a neighborhood not adjacent to downtown, I would put Shaker Square at the top of my list. Having a transit line there will put you right downtown for sporting events and downtown life (you may not want to bother driving b/c of parking hassles alone). Switch to the red line and you have Ohio city (probably my favorite area) to explore. Little Italy is of course terrific as well if you work for the clinic. If in your search you see anything about the West Flats or Stonebridge, and you want more info let me know. I am not putting it out there at this point b/c it provides a very different landscape (industrial "beauty", unique to Cleveland) than your area of Queens. Yet the views are great, close to everything, and incidentally a lot of resident physicans and doc's in my building (condo building, with some aparentments..not sure how the other phases are).
February 11, 200718 yr Welcome. Another NYer in the midst. I would go with Cleveland Heights' Cedar-Fairmont or Coventry Areas. Both are young fun close to the job and you get HUGE apartments. I just suggest visiting all areas in the morning and the evening so you see what you commute will be like and what the neighborhood is like at both time. I grew up in Cleveland Heights...go for it! Its a great suburb with three fun districts and lots of young couples/families. Its extremely diverse and tolerant. Very urban in the suburbs. If you live in CF area or the Coventry area, you could actually take a number of buses to the clinic. You should also check the Cleveland Clinic's website they give you neighborhood recommendations and I do know that you could be eligible for reduced rent in some cases if you go with a clinic suggested landlord. I would check around the clinic for apartments as well, there are lots of nice buildings in hough, or little Italy. Cleveland Heights is nice, but it's still a suburb. Personally, I'd take Playhouse Square over CH or Shaker any day of the week. PS is well-balanced, since it's near the downtown activity and transportation, but still fairly quiet. Plus, when the Avenue District and Euclid Corridor projects are finished, the neighborhood will only be that much more connected and vibrant. Good point about the Clinic's website. The only thing I'd add, though, is that Hough still seems a little rough to me, outside of the newer developments.
February 11, 200718 yr Welcome. Another NYer in the midst. I would go with Cleveland Heights' Cedar-Fairmont or Coventry Areas. Both are young fun close to the job and you get HUGE apartments. I just suggest visiting all areas in the morning and the evening so you see what you commute will be like and what the neighborhood is like at both time. I grew up in Cleveland Heights...go for it! Its a great suburb with three fun districts and lots of young couples/families. Its extremely diverse and tolerant. Very urban in the suburbs. If you live in CF area or the Coventry area, you could actually take a number of buses to the clinic. You should also check the Cleveland Clinic's website they give you neighborhood recommendations and I do know that you could be eligible for reduced rent in some cases if you go with a clinic suggested landlord. I would check around the clinic for apartments as well, there are lots of nice buildings in hough, or little Italy. Cleveland Heights is nice, but it's still a suburb. Personally, I'd take Playhouse Square over CH or Shaker any day of the week. PS is well-balanced, since it's near the downtown activity and transportation, but still fairly quiet. Plus, when the Avenue District and Euclid Corridor projects are finished, the neighborhood will only be that much more connected and vibrant. Good point about the Clinic's website. The only thing I'd add, though, is that Hough still seems a little rough to me, outside of the newer developments. Yes CH is a 'burb, however, I took into consideration his work hours. If he/she has to work in the middle of the night, that is a huge factor. Apartments in Cleveland hts most likely can most likely fulfill the 2 bed/2 bath request. The OP also said they might have to work in the middle of the night. I would think the person wants to be able to roll out of bed, and be there quickly and have good transportation options in the event of not wanting to deal with driving/parking. In regards to Hough, the OP lives in FH, Hough something like sunny side or Jackson Hts. is a area on the comeback and I'd rather get in now, than later. Those townhomes in the 90s could be a good fit.
February 11, 200718 yr There are a lot of pictures about the Cleveland downtown (Skyline) but I could not find much in terms of specific neighborhoods. go to the main site (urbanohio.com) NE Ohio > Cleveland > either Neighborhoods/Suburbs and If you do come, most of us are willing and ready to help with a tour if we can.
February 11, 200718 yr Thanks everyone for all the replies You guys have been terrific I am already looking forward to move to Cleveland!
February 11, 200718 yr Yes CH is a 'burb, however, I took into consideration his work hours. If he/she has to work in the middle of the night, that is a huge factor. Apartments in Cleveland hts most likely can most likely fulfill the 2 bed/2 bath request. I don't understand why it's important to live in a suburb if you have to go to work in the middle of the night. If anything, it seems like you'd disturb the neighbors more there than in the city. I don't know much about apartment setups in CH, but it seems like you can find 2 bed/ 2 bath anywhere if you look hard enough, especially in some of the newer renovations downtown. The OP also said they might have to work in the middle of the night. I would think the person wants to be able to roll out of bed, and be there quickly and have good transportation options in the event of not wanting to deal with driving/parking. I don't see how it's easier to get from CH to the Clinic than from downtown, especially if you're talking about transportation options. You have more options downtown, namely the Euclid Corridor project and the rapid. And as for driving, since it's a straight shot down Euclid from Playhouse Square to the Clinic, it seems like it would be easier to drive from downtown unless you live on Cedar, and then it's exactly the same. In regards to Hough, the OP lives in FH, Hough something like sunny side or Jackson Hts. is a area on the comeback and I'd rather get in now, than later. Those townhomes in the 90s could be a good fit. I guess Hough is starting to gentrify, but the only reason I'd want to "get in now" is if I were putting down roots, and I don't know that Drheat isn't planning on moving in a couple of years. It would make sense investing in a place that you planned on occupying for quite some time and possibly selling down the road, but we don't know if that's the case here. TI suppose the townhouses are a little different, but the neighborhood's current status is still something to take into consideration.
February 11, 200718 yr DRHeat are you looking to rent or purchase? Being new to the area I assume rent. Will you have a car? I agree that Cedar or Euclid Hts. portions of Cleveland Hts are closer to the clinic and the apartments are HUGE. DrHeat lives in a neighborhood that changes from block to block so Hough/university circle should not be a big surprise. I don't think anyone here is trying to steer DrHeat to the 'burbs we're just tyring to accomodate his request.
February 11, 200718 yr I never accused anyone of "trying to steer Drheat to the 'burbs." I'm just trying to understand FHTH's reasoning because I have a different opinion, and I, too, would like to provide the best input I can. Thank you for half-addressing my concerns, though.
February 11, 200718 yr I never accused anyone of "trying to steer Drheat to the 'burbs." I'm just trying to understand FHTH's reasoning because I have a different opinion, and I, too, would like to provide the best input I can. Thank you for half-addressing my concerns, though. I wasn't implying that you were trying to steer him downtown or any other neighborhood. Thats the good thing about UO we all have a good opinions to share. You think downtown is better, as much as I think shaker square is the end all neighborhood, I think this person coming from FH, Queens would find the cedar or euclid hts portions of cleveland hts most comparable and much closer in distance.
February 12, 200718 yr I'd agree with others who have directed you to Shaker Square or Cedar-Fairmount. They are both a lot like Forest Hills, and within a 10 minute drive or bus-ride of the Clinic. Take a walk through Little Italy too, which is even closer. University Circle itself is a little "institutional" feeling at the moment, but that will be changing over the next few years as several infill development projects are completed. The bonus in this neighborhood is that you have a world-class art museum and orchestra in your backyard (along with a bunch of other museums), and a great art-house cinema in the Cinematheque. If you're looking to rent, check out the Park Lane Villas project, scheduled to be complete later this year: http://cleveland.about.com/od/apartmentliving/p/parklanevillas.htm
February 12, 200718 yr I posted this on the Photos thread but since it was partially inspired by this thread and is relevant, here it is. Nothing but a quick video of some late Sunday afternoon scenes of the Cedar-Fairmount area. A 5-10 minute drive from the Clinic and nestled in a nice little corner of the Heights. Puts you pretty close to everything the Heights has to offer. They used to have a sign there, "Gateway to the Heights" or something like that but I didn't see it there Sunday. Middle of February, this is as bad as the place can possibly look, so if you don't mind these views, then give it some consideration :wink: There are also some shots of the area at http://urbanohio.com/ClevHeights.htm
February 13, 200718 yr You can also check out the not terrible cedar fairmount website at www.cedarfairmount.org
February 13, 200718 yr I posted this on the Photos thread but since it was partially inspired by this thread and is relevant, here it is. Nothing but a quick video of some late Sunday afternoon scenes of the Cedar-Fairmount area. A 5-10 minute drive from the Clinic and nestled in a nice little corner of the Heights. Puts you pretty close to everything the Heights has to offer. They used to have a sign there, "Gateway to the Heights" or something like that but I didn't see it there Sunday. Middle of February, this is as bad as the place can possibly look, so if you don't mind these views, then give it some consideration :wink: There are also some shots of the area at http://urbanohio.com/ClevHeights.htm a 5-10 minute drive?? You can make it from the 105 garage to Cedar/Fairmount in 3-5 minutes on most days.
February 13, 200718 yr That's... probably true. I often overestimate drive times because I'm always late. Helps me get there earlier :-)
February 13, 200718 yr Found a pic of my old building on Lennox: Landlord was from Mayfield Heights and was always reasonably quick about repairs, etc. They had an old ethnic guy named Drago that would come around and collect rents, etc. City parking lot is right next door (permit used to cost $20/month), but there was no garage. As in all of Cleveland Heights, there is no overnight on-street parking, so your guests will wake up to parking tickets unless they feed the meters in the parking garage at the end of the block. www.propertyinvestmentcompany.com
February 13, 200718 yr ^you can call the CHPD and request permission to park on the street. I did it all the time when I lived in CH.
February 13, 200718 yr If you settle on Cleveland Heights whatever you do don't live in the Boulevard View on Euclid Hts Blvd. My girlfriend lived there for two years and it was simply atrocious. The location is great though (Cedar & Fairmount). apartmentratings.com has a number of (in retrospect, humorous) reviews, one of which is hers. She only wished she had checked the site before moving in http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/OH-Cleveland-Heights-Boulevard-View.html
February 14, 200718 yr Well, I think we must be scaring him with all this bombarment of responses...but by asking Urbanohio for the best place to live would be the same as him asking a bunch of fat guys which donut is the best. Which is obviously Boston Cream.... :-)
February 14, 200718 yr Sorry - it's all about the chocolate cruller :-D clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
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