41 minutes ago, aderwent said:

Not just the aesthetic. It's not connected or cohesive at all.

 

Ohio State and Children's Hospital right here in Columbus are two examples of urban hospitals doing things right. Even Riverside does better than the disjointed mess Grant has become.

 

What do they all have in common? Immense amounts of empty land. Even Riverside is a hodgepodge. We just don't see it anymore because hospitals build out like onions in many circumstanstances often encasing the older sections within or behind the newer. But if you look at the original NW campus and Riverside, they too did the same. But they aren't bound in the same way that Grant is or even Mount Carmel were.  They are still often mazes to navigate trying to mold decades worth of disjointed additions, each a product of their times. The architecture of the 2 new wings at Riverside and Children's just hide how disjointed they are compared to the expansions of the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, etc. Where Grant doesn't have that luxury. 

 

 

Not everything will be a James-OSU beauty for navigating and cohesion. 

 

 

Grant isn't doing anything wrong. It's just not to the same scale or sharpness that others are and thats ok. These steps will more importantly allow future expansion and modernization and most importantly, support the growing urban population for health care. 

 

Grant also doesn't have the benefit of Children's or Mt Carmel, or Summa Health System (Akron) or Aultman (Canton) in being in a residential area where it can buy up plot after plot after plot of low value homes expanding the campus blocks at a time. 

 

Grant has to play chess, or musical chairs, where the others you mention get to play Legos. 

 

 

Edited May 24, 20232 yr by DTCL11

43 minutes ago, aderwent said:

Not just the aesthetic. It's not connected or cohesive at all.

 

Ohio State and Children's Hospital right here in Columbus are two examples of urban hospitals doing things right. Even Riverside does better than the disjointed mess Grant has become.

As someone at RMH nearly every day, that statement is laughable. 

I listened to this portion of the meeting and the commissioners asked good questions, but the answers were essentially "we looked at that, but this is cheaper, so we want this"

 

At the very least they should stack the MOB on top of the garage and provide some kind of active street-facing use along State

 

Yes, Grant is a major downtown anchor, and I'm happy they're expanding. But that doesn't give them a blank check to build the lowest common denominator IMO ... especially given that the city is agreeing to vacate not only 6th street but also the ROW of the midblock alleys on the surface lot site

 

Edited May 24, 20232 yr by NW24HX

3 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

 

What do they all have in common? Immense amounts of empty land. Even Riverside is a hodgepodge. We just don't see it anymore because hospitals build out like onions in many circumstanstances often encasing the older sections within or behind the newer. But if you look at the original NW campus and Riverside, they too did the same. But they aren't bound in the same way that Grant is or even Mount Carmel were.  They are still often mazes to navigate trying to mold decades worth of disjointed additions, each a product of their times. The architecture of the 2 new wings at Riverside and Children's just hide how disjointed they are compared to the expansions of the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, etc. Where Grant doesn't have that luxury. 

 

 

Not everything will be a James-OSU beauty for navigating and cohesion. 

 

 

Grant isn't doing anything wrong. It's just not to the same scale or sharpness that others are and thats ok. These steps will more importantly allow future expansion and modernization and most importantly, support the growing urban population for health care. 

 

Grant also doesn't have the benefit of Children's or Mt Carmel, or Summa Health System (Akron) or Aultman (Canton) in being in a residential area where it can buy up plot after plot after plot of low value homes expanding the campus blocks at a time. 

 

Grant has to play chess, or musical chairs, where the others you mention get to play Legos. 

 

 

Yes, I know how piece meal development works. It can be done right, it can be done wrong. Nationwide is doing fine and OSU is almost perfect, but Grant is doing badly.

 

Usually when land is at a premium you have to build up. I'd say especially so if you know you'll have to invest at this site, for all intents and purposes, in perpetuity. Instead, we're getting a three story building?

 

They even say they know it could be better. They just can't afford it. Well then maybe don't take on 3-4 large projects all at once?

 

This isn't just about aesthetics. It's about being a good neighbor downtown, and also building a cohesive campus that's conducive to better care. We're getting neither.

3 hours ago, amped91 said:

As someone at RMH nearly every day, that statement is laughable. 

How so?

It's not really a blank check. And I don't think any of it is lowest common denominator. It's still a $400 million investment. And it's more than just the new structures. 

 

For reference, Gravity 2.0 cost $120 million. We could get 3.4 Gravity 2.0s for the same investment. That's more than the cost to build the Merchant Building. 

 

I do agree that stacking would be better but again, I'll still settle for assurances the garage can be built upon and MOB as well. It's not perfect but it is not anything thats not generally able to improved as time goes on and the campus evolves. Remember Grant has already demonstrated a willingness to be a bit innovative when they expanded a few years ago. 
 

3 hours ago, cbussoccer said:

 

Ohio State is pretty disjointed as it has also been built up over a century. Children's is fairly cohesive, but it's largely been built out over the course of ~15 years under a fairly cohesive master plan. That's not a luxury that a legacy hospital like Grant has. Riverside is more suburban than urban, and is a spralling maze of a building(s). I'm not really sure what they've done that Grant should have done when you consider the surroundings of each and the nature of their growth.

Sure, OSU is a maze of buildings, too, but it functions as a building under one roof. Any building that's 5 million square feet built over the course of a century plus is going to feel a bit disjointed, but it doesn't come across that way from the outside; literally and figuratively. I have to imagine this is more conducive to cross-profession/specialty interaction.

 

Grant has way less room. This should have led to better integration. The campus is dark, uninviting, and confusing. I understand they do great work there, but the campus reminds me of Mt Carmel West. Mt Carmel cut their losses and decided to start new.

 

I don't wish for Grant to do that, but I do wish they'd make their campus more cohesive. Unless I'm in emergency need of trauma care and Grant is closer than OSU, I really have no desire to ever receive care there. A hospital should not make its neighbors feel that way. 

35 minutes ago, aderwent said:

Yes, I know how piece meal development works. It can be done right, it can be done wrong. Nationwide is doing fine and OSU is almost perfect, but Grant is doing badly.

 

Usually when land is at a premium you have to build up. I'd say especially so if you know you'll have to invest at this site, for all intents and purposes, in perpetuity. Instead, we're getting a three story building?

 

They even say they know it could be better. They just can't afford it. Well then maybe don't take on 3-4 large projects all at once?

 

This isn't just about aesthetics. It's about being a good neighbor downtown, and also building a cohesive campus that's conducive to better care. We're getting neither.

 

But if you don't need to build taller, then why do it. You're asking the hospital to build taller for the sake of building taller to fit urban junky desires. So yes, let's hold off on better facilities downtown so urban junkies can get their fix down the road. None of what is happening or proposed is prohibiting future upward growth.  If the need is for 3 stories of this care, then that's what's needed. Because its not taller doesn't make them a bad neighbor. 'Oh, you're adding new state of the art facilities and expanding care, but ew, it's only 3 stories, you're being a bad neighbor.'

 

I'm not sure what you're expecting in terms of a cohesive campus because again, that's not a reality for nearly any urban hospital that is landlocked to a couple city blocks.

 

Again, you can't call Grant an abject failure and praise others while failing to recognize the very real reality of land. Even if you overlay the NW main hospital into Grant, you find 4+ city streets disecting its main hospital buildings that Grant has has to navigate while NW hasnt had to consider that. Grant is finally trying to get the city to give it that advantage to open up its options for a more cohesive campus. It's just false equivalency on multiple levels. They could pull a Mt Carmel and just leave. 

 

Healthcare isn't a cohesive business whatsoever to begin with, let alone within a building or campus. Hospital here, PCP there, specialist in this suburb, surgeon in another, imaging in another facility, and so on. Which, is part of the reason that these buildings aren't being considered as just a single building. The build, equipment, access, and even security needs are different which adds to the complexity of preventing it all from being put in to a single building and just tearing down the rest.  Even if they build a beautiful cohesive campus somehow, things will be different in 20 years.  And then you have to start over in phases using new design standards and innovations and architectural styles. Then new buildongs won't match old buildings, or might not line up the same way and so on. The struggle continues in perpetuity for the same 3 blocks. 

 

Keep in mind, all these beautiful cohesive expansions you refer to are also very specialized and broken down in to very specific needs. Even the new OSU Wexner and James Towers is very limited in care but as soon as you're discharged, everything else you need will be taken care in West Campus or other suburban facilities. 

 

What we are seeing is the beginning of Grant's future. You can bet that this is done with an eye toward eliminating older structures down the road but they are holding those longer term visions close and not releasing a full master plan like NW did. But again, NW is playing Legos. 

 

 

Edited May 24, 20232 yr by DTCL11

26 minutes ago, aderwent said:

 

Grant has way less room. This should have led to better integration. The campus is dark, uninviting, and confusing. I understand they do great work there, but the campus reminds me of Mt Carmel West. Mt Carmel cut their losses and decided to start new.

 

I don't wish for Grant to do that, but I do wish they'd make their campus more cohesive. Unless I'm in emergency need of trauma care and Grant is closer than OSU, I really have no desire to ever receive care there. A hospital should not make its neighbors feel that way. 

 

That's literally what they are doing... in phases... like every other hospital does. 

Edited May 24, 20232 yr by DTCL11

19 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

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What we are seeing is the beginning of Grant's future. 

 

 

If they were properly planning for the future they would build up, not just 3 stories of bleh. As you mentioned so frequently they are land locked and they should be maximizing that resource rather than squandering it and vaguely promising that if the city vacates RoWs that somehow will lead to a better outcome in the future. 

 

If Nationwide, OSU, and Riverside can all find it economical to build up, when they don't really even have to (because they have plenty of land) , I don't understand why Grant can't. This feels to me like they felt they had to do something so they pulled out the blueprints for some suburban outpatient center and we'e like let's use these because it works and it's the minimum viable option. I get dollars aren't free (especially these days), but this plan sucks and I think we all know it. It sounds like from the comments at the meeting they know it too. 

1 hour ago, aderwent said:

How so?

Pretty much for the same reasons you listed as disliking Grant. It’s disjointed, access between towers is difficult and confusing for visitors, and, like someone else said upthread, the campus is very suburban in style. 
 

And personally, even though the inside of the Neuro Center is great, I think, aesthetically, the exterior is ugly, and same with the renderings for the Women’s Center. I much prefer the exterior of the WMC tower and the Grant CCP. 

2 hours ago, 17thState said:

If they were properly planning for the future they would build up, not just 3 stories of bleh. As you mentioned so frequently they are land locked and they should be maximizing that resource rather than squandering it and vaguely promising that if the city vacates RoWs that somehow will lead to a better outcome in the future. 

 

If Nationwide, OSU, and Riverside can all find it economical to build up, when they don't really even have to (because they have plenty of land) , I don't understand why Grant can't. This feels to me like they felt they had to do something so they pulled out the blueprints for some suburban outpatient center and we'e like let's use these because it works and it's the minimum viable option. I get dollars aren't free (especially these days), but this plan sucks and I think we all know it. It sounds like from the comments at the meeting they know it too. 

 

But now your mixing scale. None of them are combining a critical care pavilion and an ambulatory outpatient and PCP facility. That's not a thing in the hospital community.  You might see the general inpatient tower and critical care floors on it but then we'd essentially be telling Grant to come back when they can rebuild the hospital in one go. And many of those other expansion are highly specialized. They aren't general care.  Your general hospital stay with the exception of OSU will be in the older parts of the hospital. So then you're left with significantly overbuilding the ambulatory center for height or leaving it out of the equation since combining the two is difficult. And stacking the ambulatory center on a garage wpuld be great and frankly, revolutionary in the medical world. I'm not sure there are many medical facilities that integrate garages. 

 

As for the others, they are are also built for significantly more annual patients. And OSU is doubling its patient beds. If it wasn't, the new hospital wouldn't be anything near as grand. When building 800 beds in one go, the most efficient way is up. A sprawling 800 bed hospital from scratch doesn't make sense. They're not finding the means so much as being the most efficient with the budget that have allotted. In a way, lowest common denominator? 

 

Grant isn't a research or specialty hospital which is where the money is. Hence why rural hospitals are dying while hospitals with specialties are thriving. It's a critical and general care facility. It doesn't make the same kind of money. Again, they could pull a Mt Carmel and high tail it out of there for that reason. And Ohio Health is also busy propping up those same rural hospitals across the state. The success of specialty hospitals is what is getting Ohio Health this far with Grant as is. 

 

My exposure has me looking at this from many other layers than a building/urban development perspective and yes, it sucks that a 3 story building is getting built but it's not surprising or condemnable at this point given all the other complexities of Healthcare and facilities. 

 

This will lead to the eventual demise of the older buildings that are becoming increasingly obsolete like the old Baldwin tower. 

 

Ultimately, the general ask here is to completey rebuild Grant. And that's not realistic in one go. Sure, we can Sim City, but that's not the reality of the situation and campus and Financials.  We can afford a 3 story ambulatory facility replacing a parking lot while the city is busy approving a million other worse land uses and allowing commissions to chase off good developments. 

 

Patients... or patience... either one. Ohio Health is doing good work.  It's not to give them blank checks or not question, but to understand the complexities are much more significant for medical facilities. 

 

It's still more than Ohio State has done to East since they've owned it? Maybe they should have knocked a few floors off the new tower and invested it in East? (See how that can sound when asking Ohio Health to wait or divert funds?)  Will we complain when OSU Easts plans are for an 8 story building and demo the existing tower? 

 

Edit. And I do stand corrected. Limited parking for Emergency Department Patients will be available underground in the new Critical Care Pavillion. 

 

Edited May 25, 20232 yr by DTCL11

2 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

I do agree that stacking would be better but again, I'll still settle for assurances the garage can be built upon and MOB as well. It's not perfect but it is not anything thats not generally able to improved as time goes on and the campus evolves. Remember Grant has already demonstrated a willingness to be a bit innovative when they expanded a few years ago. 

 

For the record Ohio Health specifically stated to the commission that the MOB will not be able to be expanded/ built upon later

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKam8yWo2k4&t=8144s

 

 

Just now, NW24HX said:

 

For the record Ohio Health specifically stated to the commission that the MOB will not be able to be expanded/ built upon later

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKam8yWo2k4&t=8144s

 

 

Yeah that’s crappy development, and I would guess it would have to be demoed and replaced in the future. 

@NW24HXThank you for the link. Glad the commission had alot of same pushback we did.

 

Also can't believe they're exploring making 6th and chapel one-way to "improve flow". Not great. 

 

Lastly, I didn't realize you had to be sworn in for these things. Can we go after all the developers who's buildings deviated from approved plans or those who promised to build something within a certain timeline, but never did for perjury? 

22 minutes ago, NW24HX said:

 

For the record Ohio Health specifically stated to the commission that the MOB will not be able to be expanded/ built upon later

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKam8yWo2k4&t=8144s

 

 

 

And that is something I whole heartedly oppose. Unless they really are holding cards close with the idea it will be demoed sooner than later. 🤔

I kind of freak out thinking about being in medical buildings alone because the layouts are so labyrinthine. Good thing that when you are actually in them someone is with you.

6 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

I kind of freak out thinking about being in medical buildings alone because the layouts are so labyrinthine. Good thing that when you are actually in them someone is with you.

 

As long as the someone isn't him...

 

28 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

I kind of freak out thinking about being in medical buildings alone because the layouts are so labyrinthine. Good thing that when you are actually in them someone is with you.

I have a dream of somehow buying an old hospital and turning it into a massive laser tag or paintball arena. The maze of hallways and stairwells would make an excellent opportunity for creating intricate missions and whatnot. This idea is going to make extremely rich one day just trust me, lol. 

10 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

And that is something I whole heartedly oppose. Unless they really are holding cards close with the idea it will be demoed sooner than later. 🤔

 

I think Grant would benefit from having more of a comprehensive long-term plan for their campus, it seems like they really don't have one at the moment

 

For example, the blue garage which will now be demo'ed for the critical care pavilion had its ground floor retail space converted to medical offices less than five years ago (see top of previous page in this thread). Those same offices are now moving to the low rise MOB

 

Their representatives at the commission also suggested the recently renovated bone and joint center across town could be the next site to be redeveloped

 

I don't necessarily have an issue with either of those moves but it does seem wasteful to invest your supposedly limited capital on facilities that you then tear down a short time later

 

12 minutes ago, NW24HX said:

 

I think Grant would benefit from having more of a comprehensive long-term plan for their campus, it seems like they really don't have one at the moment

 

For example, the blue garage which will now be demo'ed for the critical care pavilion had its ground floor retail space converted to medical offices less than five years ago (see top of previous page in this thread). Those same offices are now moving to the low rise MOB

 

Their representatives at the commission also suggested the recently renovated bone and joint center across town could be the next site to be redeveloped

 

I don't necessarily have an issue with either of those moves but it does seem wasteful to invest your supposedly limited capital on facilities that you then tear down a short time later

 

 

Which is fair. And I think thats why there's stress because they havent released their 10 or 20 year plan like OSU or Childrens did. But, having been through actual master planning process, unless you're NW children's doing it all in no time flat, those long term plans change so frequently but they do offer a sense of vision and ease. 

 

As an example though is the airport has been doing the same thing. CMH just spent $80 million to upgrade and modernize the terminal they intend to tear down less than 10 years later. It seems counter-intuitive but it's not unusual for major institutions who are trying to keep up a level of service during long term projects. Government, schools,  universities etc do the same. They still have to maintain and improve if the final results aren't fairly close. It also buys them time if things like economic downturns come about and let's say the major new terminal or hospital building  further down the horizon doesn't come to fruition as planned. 

 

 

Edited May 25, 20232 yr by DTCL11

28 minutes ago, NW24HX said:

 

I think Grant would benefit from having more of a comprehensive long-term plan for their campus, it seems like they really don't have one at the moment

 

For example, the blue garage which will now be demo'ed for the critical care pavilion had its ground floor retail space converted to medical offices less than five years ago (see top of previous page in this thread). Those same offices are now moving to the low rise MOB

 

Their representatives at the commission also suggested the recently renovated bone and joint center across town could be the next site to be redeveloped

 

I don't necessarily have an issue with either of those moves but it does seem wasteful to invest your supposedly limited capital on facilities that you then tear down a short time later

 

 

None of these examples suggest a lack of long term plan. Converting retail space to medical offices is a quick and cheap way to expand capacity in the short term while you prepare for larger scale developments that won't be completed for another 8 years. The redevelopment of the bone and joint center will likely end up being a decade after the renovations occurred. It's not as if they renovated it and then turned around and tore it down to rebuild it again the next year.

OH is building a MOB atop a parking garage at Riverside, that's nothing new. Should be the same at Grant. I don't like the fact that 6th is being closed. Superblocks are a thing of the past - with this closure a pedestrian cannot walk north/south from Town to State between S. 4th St and Grant Ave. without cutting through private property. If anything super blocks should be broken up. 

13 minutes ago, Pablo said:

with this closure a pedestrian cannot walk north/south from Town to State between S. 4th St and Grant Ave. without cutting through private property. If anything super blocks should be broken up. 

 

I agree that this is not ideal, but as a pedestrian I wouldn't want to walk down 6th between Town and State unless I needed to access one of the buildings along that stretch which I would presumably still be able to do with the new building going up. Moving pedestrian traffic to Grant is a positive thing in my opinion, given how it's finally starting to be built up, even though I do agree that super blocks should be broken up. 

OhioHealth plans to close part of 6th Street downtown as part of Grant Medical Center expansion
 

 

“OhioHealth wants to permanently close part of 6th Street in downtown Columbus to support its expansion of Grant Medical Center.

 

The Downtown Commission approved a request from OhioHealth to endorse the road closure from Chapel to Town streets before it goes to the Land Commission. The health system will still come back to the Downtown Commission for approval of its final project design.

 

Closing that part of 6th Street would allow OhioHealth to connect the new critical care pavilion to the existing hospital building. 
 

It will also give the area a more "campus" feel, said Doug Scholl, director of project design and construction at OhioHealth.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/06/27/ohiohealth-road-closure.html

Man, the super blocks in this area of downtown are so pedestrian unfriendly. The only access through one of the blocks is at Franklin Univ. You can walk through parking lots and sideyards to get through but this area needs public pedestrian cut throughs.

 

11 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Man, the super blocks in this area of downtown are so pedestrian unfriendly. The only access through one of the blocks is at Franklin Univ. You can walk through parking lots and sideyards to get through but this area needs public pedestrian cut throughs.

 

This is the area that I would love the city to designate the green building area. Do something that could make Columbus stand out and have the entire area all green building with plants incorporated into the building. There are plenty of examples of this type of building and I think it would be awesome to have a whole district of that. 
 

 

Downtown Commission: New Apartments Approved, Restaurant Planned for High Street

 

article mentions the new build for Grant that is along grant. Love to see them actually push back, I wish they would have pushed back on the entire design. 
 

Grant Medical Center Expansion

Representatives of OhioHealth presented designs for a new medical office building and parking garage at the northwest corner of Grant Avenue and State Street, the first phase of a larger expansion planned for the Grant Medical Center campus.

The proposal was tabled by the board after a discussion centering mostly on the look of the Grant Avenue side of the office building. Commissioners expressed concern that the design was dated and did not rise to the level of its surroundings – it sits on a major Downtown street and also directly across from the main branch of the Columbus Metropolitan Library. 

The applicants said that they would return to a future meeting with changes to the building’s design as well as an improved landscaping plan.

It's pretty clear Ohio Health expected a rubber stamp approval on this, as they made zero changes to the design from the conceptual review despite many suggestions from both city staff and the commissioners

 

So, first I applaud the push back 👏 and second, I hope this means the plan will actually be improved (aka they don't bring back the same POS again next month but with more bushes out front) 

15 minutes ago, NW24HX said:

It's pretty clear Ohio Health expected a rubber stamp approval on this, as they made zero changes to the design from the conceptual review despite many suggestions from both city staff and the commissioners

 

So, first I applaud the push back 👏 and second, I hope this means the plan will actually be improved (aka they don't bring back the same POS again next month but with more bushes out front) 

I feel like if this wasn’t across the road from the main library and all the new development they probably wouldn’t care. I’m glad there is pushback and hopefully they offered some suggestion on how to make it better. Moody Nolan has put out great stuff before, so hopefully they can get something done that looks great. 

 

Barriers going up today at State and Grant

 

 

 

Well that doesn't inspire any confidence in me that they'll be substantially altering the design

Yeah, interesting they're starting to block things off without final approval. 

41 minutes ago, NW24HX said:

Well that doesn't inspire any confidence in me that they'll be substantially altering the design

Maybe they are allowing them to do demo? No idea, but would be pretty annoying if the commission just said screw it and let them push through the design. 

It looks a little better, but still not great. 

 

 

I did not expect a masterpiece but blah, I feel like it looks even more dated now.

 

They kind of just put in the minimum here, unfortunate. I am going to guess this is really all they are willing to do and will probs strong-arm bit to get approved. Yeah it is better than a surface lot, but just barely. 

7 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

I did not expect a masterpiece but blah, I feel like it looks even more dated now.

 

They kind of just put in the minimum here, unfortunate. I am going to guess this is really all they are willing to do and will probs strong-arm bit to get approved. Yeah it is better than a surface lot, but just barely. 

^This. I was really hoping an organization like Ohio Health would come back with something even slightly more aesthetic for their downtown property. As glad as I am that they're investing in downtown, it seems like they're doing it as charity rather than making a signature facility to serve the heart of Columbus. 

If people saw they replaced the old hotel with that (without the 30 year gap in between) they would be unhappy to say the least.

3 hours ago, VintageLife said:

It looks a little better, but still not great. 

 

 

This is ugly and uninspiring. Looks like a corporate monstrosity.

Was this approved?

41 minutes ago, columbus17 said:

Looks like a corporate monstrosity.

 

I mean... 

Yikes. Completely agree with @DevolsDance that this somehow looks even worse than last month. OH seems absolutely determined to do the bare minimum

 

MOB aside, better screening of the parking garage has been brought up by the commission every. single. time. and is such an easy fix to tack on and demonstrate at least some token goodwill towards the process and community. But again and again they bring back the same thing with zero screening

 

Unbelievable and yet here we are and it's likely to be approved

  

1 hour ago, GCrites said:

If people saw they replaced the old hotel with that (without the 30 year gap in between) they would be unhappy to say the least.

 

Visual reminder of the previous building to occupy this site, 

 

On 9/19/2023 at 4:18 PM, VintageLife said:

It looks a little better, but still not great. 

 

 

Yea, this is awful and does nothing to screen the garage. I'd rather have the parking lot, it at least leaves some hope 

I don’t have have much of an issue with this garage in theory. It’s a parking garage for a hospital and I’m completely fine with them going a bit basic on design in order to allocate funds toward their actual purpose. 
 

With that said, it’s an absolute shame that this is across the street from the downtown library which is one of my favorite buildings downtown. I hate that some of the worst architecture downtown is the first thing you see when you walk out of the library’s front doors. 

39 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

I don’t have have much of an issue with this garage in theory. It’s a parking garage for a hospital and I’m completely fine with them going a bit basic on design in order to allocate funds toward their actual purpose. 
 

With that said, it’s an absolute shame that this is across the street from the downtown library which is one of my favorite buildings downtown. I hate that some of the worst architecture downtown is the first thing you see when you walk out of the library’s front doors. 

Yep, that is why this needs to be blocked by the commission. The library is a treasure and deserves to be surrounded by decent buildings. If OH said, we plan on tearing this down in a few years to add something better, maybe then I wouldn’t care. It’s just so bland and static on a street that is getting increasingly more walkable. 

Please all if you can, take a minute and submit a public comment to the downtown commission and let them know your thoughts on this before the meeting next Tuesday 9/26

 

The commissioners do read these and it could push them to make improvements. The email address is [email protected]

 

Edited September 21, 20231 yr by NW24HX

They did not push back at all on the new design. Pretty sad honestly. Hopefully the downtown population grows quicker than expected and they have to update it within 10 years hahah
 

OhioHealth's Grant Medical Center expansion in downtown Columbus moves forward

 

The system in February announced plans for the project, which is set to include a medical office building, parking garage and critical care pavilion. Tuesday the Columbus Downtown Commission approved the first phase of the project: the 40,000-square-foot office building and the five-story, 520-space garage.

 

Construction on that phase of the project is starting now, an OhioHealth spokeswoman said.

On 9/26/2023 at 12:05 PM, VintageLife said:

They did not push back at all on the new design. Pretty sad honestly. Hopefully the downtown population grows quicker than expected and they have to update it within 10 years hahah
 

OhioHealth's Grant Medical Center expansion in downtown Columbus moves forward

 

The system in February announced plans for the project, which is set to include a medical office building, parking garage and critical care pavilion. Tuesday the Columbus Downtown Commission approved the first phase of the project: the 40,000-square-foot office building and the five-story, 520-space garage.

 

Construction on that phase of the project is starting now, an OhioHealth spokeswoman said.

 

Dirt moving on the first phase of the Grant project

 

 

 

Snatched a few quick ones of phase one of the Grant project as I passed through

 

 

 

 

It was dark when I was driving by last night, but I’m pretty sure I saw a tower crane base set up on site now. I’ll try to get a better look today.