I love this project precisely because of the color (and it being just amazing infill taking out another surface lot). I never even considered the history of the city with the soot staining buildings as to reasoning why people wouldn't like this color scheme. Things make a bit more sense now. I do still wish the Dexter went with this darker brick like they had originally proposed. 

3 hours ago, X said:

 

Maybe its because I remember when Downtown Cleveland was full of buildings this color- but because of the soot!  We climbed back from that in the 90's and early 2000's, one building at a time.  I don't want to go back just because somehow dark grey brick came into vogue.

 

It's not that dark grey is "vogue" it's just plain handsome. Obviously i wouldnt want everything to look like that but it definitely makes for a striking presence whenever I'm in the area

I like the dark gray. I think if the ground floor was done with light concrete or stone panels it would have given a nice contrast to the rest of the building. Looks good though either way.

On 10/9/2020 at 11:16 AM, dastler said:

I believe @KJP talked about both the scrapcom building and 3400 Vega being considered for apartment conversions. I've also reached out to Kerry McCormack about a red line station here because of the density being added as well as adding red line greenway access. He says it's something that's been brought up before and agrees it would be a good spot. No comment on timelines or the seriousness of said discussions.

 

I reached out to Knez about the townhomes going in at the corner of Fulton/Bailey, no comment was given on timeline, but they plan to build in stages. The first six (of what appears to be 57) homes will be fronting Fulton and ~1400sf in the mid $300's (~$250sf) which is a pretty high mark for new construction in this section of SOLO.

 

Finally, some construction update on infill housing. Cleveland Bricks is building these, there's a little bit about them on the bottom of this page: https://clevelandbricks.com/future-projects/. They're a little bit large for my tastes compared to the houses around them, but overall pretty faithful for infill homes. The density is great, they fill up basically the entire lot. I just realized the angle is bad on my photo... the red/black house to the right of the new houses is two stories, the second story doesn't show in the photo though.

First of the two homes is completed and for sale, here's a link to zillow: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2234-Fulton-Rd-Cleveland-OH-44113/96317059_zpid/

 

$450k and nearly $250/sf! At those prices South of Lorain you really gotta believe that (re)-development is going to jump 90/the tracks and push into Clark-Fulton this summer.

Edited February 19, 20214 yr by dastler

I think that’s a block north of the knez development.  This is the Zillow listing for the townhomes.  But all of it is very cool:

 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2308-Fulton-Rd-12-Cleveland-OH-44113/2077017059_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

18 hours ago, Morningtheft2 said:

I think that’s a block north of the knez development.  This is the Zillow listing for the townhomes.  But all of it is very cool:

 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2308-Fulton-Rd-12-Cleveland-OH-44113/2077017059_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

Yep, the Knez homes are also >$250k/sf, they're just smaller so the ticker price is lower... those are Tremont prices!

My real estate agent called about the Bailey Bridge townhomes about 3 weeks ago - Only one unit had sold in the 3 months they'd been on the market. It didn't inspire my confidence in the project's future.  Add in the fact that it's across from the scrap yard- I decided to pass. Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

8 minutes ago, West153 said:

My real estate agent called about the Bailey Bridge townhomes about 3 weeks ago - Only one unit had sold in the 3 months they'd been on the market. It didn't inspire my confidence in the project's future.  Add in the fact that it's across from the scrap yard- I decided to pass. Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

 

That's disappointing to hear.  They are a very good price point for Ohio City (albeit very edge).  Although I could see the first few being a slow sale while it is a big open field, and then them picking up steam as additional groups are added.

 

So I had to remove from my Fulton House article one of the developer's names because of blowback they're getting from the neighborhood. Apparently some of the neighbors have come out with torches and pitchforks against these guys and their development that would add some affordable housing to this exclusive neighborhood. I guess some of those many BLM signs on people's houses are just for show....

On 2/22/2021 at 9:03 PM, KJP said:

So I had to remove from my Fulton House article one of the developer's names because of blowback they're getting from the neighborhood. Apparently some of the neighbors have come out with torches and pitchforks against these guys and their development that would add some affordable housing to this exclusive neighborhood. I guess some of those many BLM signs on people's houses are just for show....

Ah yes, the time honored tradition of virtue signaling. Shame. Hope the project still happens 

35 minutes ago, inlovewithCLE said:

Ah yes, the time honored tradition of virtue signaling. Shame. Hope the project still happens 

 

It's the country's other pandemic. As seen in suburban Boston, MA:

 

Edited February 25, 20214 yr by ASP1984

On 2/5/2021 at 10:39 AM, KJP said:

Plus, the developer makes the point that those historic buildings rise five stories straight up from the sidewalk. The proposed building on Fulton would rise from a step back atop the existing building. There is no sheer frontage except above the garage entrance on West 31st.

So unfortunately this was denied by the Landmarks Commission today due to concerns about height and it's overall scale. 
 

Someone in this town needs to put these members on blast. Their objections to solid projects is getting out of control.

Edited February 26, 20214 yr by Clefan98

30 minutes ago, Clefan98 said:

So unfortunately this was denied by the Landmarks Commission today due to concerns about height and it's overall scale. 
 

Someone in this town needs to put these members on blast. Their objections to solid projects is getting out of control.

 

Det Shoreway 501c3 supported their decision... bleh

Edited February 26, 20214 yr by YABO713

This was another conceptual presentation for developer feedback so it was not "denied" (no vote) but the feed back was indeed negative.  

9 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

This was another conceptual presentation for developer feedback so it was not "denied" (no vote) but the feed back was indeed negative.  

 

It seemed like they killed it based on the reaction of the developer to the suggestions of the commission about the height.

7 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

This was another conceptual presentation for developer feedback so it was not "denied" (no vote) but the feed back was indeed negative.  

 

That is technically correct.
 

It's still very disappointing knowing that not even one member supported the concept.
 

I guess none of this is surprising when out of touch dinosaurs and morons run a city. 

Former Bounce Nightclub in Cleveland’s Ohio City neighborhood to see new life as unique office space

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Construction is underway on a project in the Hingetown area of Ohio City that will turn what was once a well-known LGBTQ+-friendly nightclub into a co-working space run by a startup based in the Columbus area.

COhatch plans to complete the renovations and open the building in the 2800 block of Detroit Avenue by April 2021. Inside will be more than 30 private offices, meeting rooms, event space and podcast rooms. The space will also have a restaurant.

CEO Matt Davis describes the near-West Side space, as well as other spaces the company has in Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton and Indianapolis as “part co-working space, part country club, part timeshare, part chamber of commerce, all blended into one.” Members pay fees to use space and various amenities, including use of spaces for events.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2020/11/former-bounce-nightclub-in-clevelands-ohio-city-neighborhood-to-see-new-life-as-unique-office-space.html

Edited March 1, 20214 yr by MyPhoneDead

Article is from November, and someone scooped that article by six months.  😎

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/05/community-co-working-biz-expands-to.html

5 minutes ago, KJP said:

 I scooped that article by six months. 

Pshh amateurs

Progress on the MyPlace development on Franklin. They’re really cruising.

 

 

Franklin Circle and The Dexter (Sun. 3-7-21)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

COhatch Ohio City redevelopment - 2814 Detroit Avenue

 

The Quarter Apartments

 

 

 

Hinge Town Homes - 3105 Vine Court

 

 

The Nikolai Condominiums - 3703 Clinton Avenue

 

Irishtown Bend Demolition

 

Dayum! Great set -- all of them!!

The Nikolai would look so much better without those silly setbacks on the corners of the 4th floor.

I am so relieved to see those beautiful trees still standing out front of where the old CMHA property was torn down. Fingers crossed they stay that way until all that heavy equipment is gone.

Didn’t see this posted anywhere but Choolaah coming to the old Howard Hanna spot next to Mitchell’s. 

 

^Looks like it will be a great addition. I like the contemporary vibe. 

1 hour ago, BJBaes said:

Didn’t see this posted anywhere but Choolaah coming to the old Howard Hanna spot next to Mitchell’s. 

 

Plans for Choolah for anyone interested

Really coming along. It looks like it will have a nice relationship with Franklin

Some updated Fulton House plans that will be presented at Design Review next week:  https://res.cloudinary.com/courbanize-production/image/upload/v1/information_plans/pgrrdlqnitki9oncmy47

 

Looks like it is one story shorter, but less of a set-back.  Overall it is a more attractive design and blends into the street better although I'm sure all the NIMBYs will still hate it.  I'm glad that developer found a way for the shorter building to make financial sense.  His reaction at the last meeting was not promising.  

18 minutes ago, gg707 said:

Some updated Fulton House plans that will be presented at Design Review next week:  https://res.cloudinary.com/courbanize-production/image/upload/v1/information_plans/pgrrdlqnitki9oncmy47

 

Looks like it is one story shorter, but less of a set-back.  Overall it is a more attractive design and blends into the street better although I'm sure all the NIMBYs will still hate it.  I'm glad that developer found a way for the shorter building to make financial sense.  His reaction at the last meeting was not promising.  

I am glad the developer did not walk away from this.  I agree with you that he did not look like a happy camper at the end of the Landmark meeting (nor did the architect although he hid his emotions just a bit better).  I also agree with you that the NIMBYS will still be up in arms for one reason or another.

I think Fulton House looks great - hopefully landmarks approves this - it would be a great addition to the neighborhood.

On 2/20/2021 at 1:46 PM, gg707 said:

 

That's disappointing to hear.  They are a very good price point for Ohio City (albeit very edge).  Although I could see the first few being a slow sale while it is a big open field, and then them picking up steam as additional groups are added.

 

Knez seems to be progressing well on that big open field: progress picture taken on 3/13/21 and google maps screenshot from Sep 2019. 

It looks like the restaurant space at CoHatch is going to be North High Brewing Co, a brewery from Columbus.

31 minutes ago, tykaps said:

It looks like the restaurant space at CoHatch is going to be North High Brewing Co, a brewery from Columbus.

 

Looks like Saucy is getting some competition.  

 

Under the locations page of North High Brewing's website: 

 

Considering that CoHatch is from Columbus, it makes sense that they would know Columbus contacts looking to expand to Cleveland.  

 

Edited March 17, 20214 yr by smimes

6 hours ago, tykaps said:

It looks like the restaurant space at CoHatch is going to be North High Brewing Co, a brewery from Columbus.

That signage is... less than world class.

7 hours ago, tykaps said:

It looks like the restaurant space at CoHatch is going to be North High Brewing Co, a brewery from Columbus.

 

 

https://cohatchdev.wpengine.com/locations/cleveland/ohio-city/

On 3/9/2021 at 5:06 PM, X said:

The Nikolai would look so much better without those silly setbacks on the corners of the 4th floor.

 

Agreed - Nonetheless, I think the project actually ended up looking better than the renderings (which were admittedly ugly as sin)

52 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

Agreed - Nonetheless, I think the project actually ended up looking better than the renderings (which were admittedly ugly as sin)

 

I also agree. My biggest peeve with this one -- and you can't see it too well in this photo -- is that the façade almost lines up with the building next to it, but doesn't quite. It's a couple of feet off. If they couldn't get it to line up for some important reason, it would have been better to come nowhere close.

Demolition Man II......

 

I read that the brewery aspect of Co-Hatch will be seltzer only. 

33 minutes ago, mtnbikefan said:

I read that the brewery aspect of Co-Hatch will be seltzer only. 

thanks I hate it lol

Any word on what happened today at the Near West Design Review with the Fulton House project?

Edited March 19, 20214 yr by downtownjoe

Quick progress pic at the light today. 

^What is that?

^One of the buildings close to the corner of W. 25th and Detroit, on the river-side of W. 25th.  The demo is making way for the new park and much needed stabilization of the river.

My understanding is that Fulton House received a "No" from Design Review.  The project is likely dead.

6 minutes ago, RMB said:

My understanding is that Fulton House received a "No" from Design Review.  The project is likely dead.

Neighborhood Design Review or City Design Review?  

It doesn't matter if it got a no from neighborhood review. Their "review" is just opinion. But if city design review said no, then we are in trouble. Hopefully Kerry McCormack steps in here. He is a big proponent of urban development.

12 minutes ago, YO to the CLE said:

It doesn't matter if it got a no from neighborhood review. Their "review" is just opinion. But if city design review said no, then we are in trouble. Hopefully Kerry McCormack steps in here. He is a big proponent of urban development.

It has been my impression that in general he does not like to step on the toes of "neighborhood opinion".

Also. I don't think city design review is binding either (it can be ignored or over ruled by the planning commission) but it does carry a lot of weight.  The bigger impediment is Landmarks.  I think (but correct me if I am wrong) that their vote is binding.  That board was very negative last go around, especially in regards to the height.  I was hoping chopping off a floor might get them on board.  Also, get the impression that neighborhood design review is  given a lot of weight by Landmarks.