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4 minutes ago, tykaps said:

Chef Douglas Katz's Indian ghost kitchen, Amba, is going to become an actual sit-down restaurant at 2817 Detroit Ave. The restaurant will be behind the tiger mural along W 28th (the bottom wall in the floor plan below). I'll be curious to see how any signage will interact with the existing artwork.

 

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So, this will be part of the renovation of the printing building (+ qounset hut project)?

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1 hour ago, BJBaes said:


So, this will be part of the renovation of the printing building (+ qounset hut project)?

The permit only included this, but this is part of the printing building. I'd heard the longhouses were supposed to be going forward soon. Anyone have a clue about that?

View of The Dexter from the back on Clinton. This is just some of the artwork they’ve started to hang. 
 

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I walked by Mason's ice cream yesterday and it appears they're completely removing the parking lot :) 

 

25 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

I walked by Mason's ice cream yesterday and it appears they're completely removing the parking lot :) 

 

 

I saw somewhere else that they are turning it into a permanent green parklet.  Should be nice!

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

22 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

I noticed the article says "next November." I assume that was an error by Trattner and the ETA is actually November, 2021?

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There was an announcement for a new Indian restaurant in Ohio City a few weeks ago--can't remember the name. Is this that same restaurant or is this a second Indian place to open up in Ohio City? I love Indian food, so I welcome the news and two is better than one if this is the case.

12 minutes ago, Pugu said:

There was an announcement for a new Indian restaurant in Ohio City a few weeks ago--can't remember the name. Is this that same restaurant or is this a second Indian place to open up in Ohio City? I love Indian food, so I welcome the news and two is better than one if this is the case.

Second. The other will be on W25th and is closer in style to an "indian chipotle"; ie: fast casual

18 minutes ago, dastler said:

Second. The other will be on W25th and is closer in style to an "indian chipotle"; ie: fast casual

 

The one on West 25th is called Choolah (https://choolaah.com/).  Super excited about the addition of all this Indian food to the area.

I was riding my bike up Franklin Blvd. and it's wild how much this building pops when you get to the top of the hill. This is taken slightly to the right near Front Steps, but if you're bored, pop up to the top of the street and check it out. Now let's fill in the CCF parking lot so we can't see it anymore :P.

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5 minutes ago, GISguy said:

I was riding my bike up Franklin Blvd. and it's wild how much this building pops when you get to the top of the hill. This is taken slightly to the right near Front Steps, but if you're bored, pop up to the top of the street and check it out. Now let's fill in the CCF parking lot so we can't see it anymore :P.

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I was a fan of the original black and gray palette, but this turned out to be a very attractive building that fits into the area well.

 

W 47th and Lorain townhomes received plenty of feedback at Landmarks today. All in all, everyone is in support of the project but the majority of people believe the designs should be tweaked (especially on the Lorain Ave side) to be more commercial in feel in order to blend in with the surrounding neighborhood better and fit in with the future of Lorain Ave. Committee member Giancarlo had taken issue with how the owner of the lot and neighborhood investor James Miketo spoke about the project claiming "seemed to be apologizing for the neighborhood" and "seeing a very uninspired design". James Miketo took exception to that as he has invested heavily in the neighborhood and dealt with all that comes with an up and coming area/urban area (crime and vandalization) claiming through all that, he is invested and is very excited about the neighborhood. I understand both of their sides and am excited for the updates/future development of this corner.

^get rid of the thin brick

Snapped this morning. 

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My hovercraft is full of eels

1 hour ago, roman totale XVII said:

Snapped this morning. 

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Don’t really like that because for a person like Bobby George it won’t cause him to change. If anything it could make him hold out more and not want to cave.

Harbor 44 progress from today, 4/24. It's actually pretty similar to the renderings which can be seen here, but I think it's turning out better in real life.

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6 hours ago, cle_guy90 said:

Don’t really like that because for a person like Bobby George it won’t cause him to change. If anything it could make him hold out more and not want to cave.

 

It's going to probate no matter what. He bought it for $248,200 in 2018 but apparently is demanding $7.2 million for it now.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^LOL

Corrected and relocated historical marker is now up:

 

 

On 4/24/2021 at 12:59 PM, cle_guy90 said:

Don’t really like that because for a person like Bobby George it won’t cause him to change. If anything it could make him hold out more and not want to cave.

 

Agreed - despite his "self-made" "bootstraps" "I only inherited a meager 4 restaurants to get my start" attitude, He wants literally nothing more in life than to be a victim.

26 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

Agreed - despite his "self-made" "bootstraps" "I only inherited a meager 4 restaurants to get my start" attitude, He wants literally nothing more in life than to be a victim.

He started with a small loan of 1 million dollars!

30 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

Agreed - despite his "self-made" "bootstraps" "I only inherited a meager 4 restaurants to get my start" attitude, He wants literally nothing more in life than to be a victim.

This is the type of thing that I hate. People who are born on third base and act like they hit a triple. 

On 4/24/2021 at 7:16 PM, KJP said:

 

It's going to probate no matter what. He bought it for $248,200 in 2018 but apparently is demanding $7.2 million for it now.

Is he descended from the Grisanti sisters? 

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

1 minute ago, Dougal said:

Is he descended from the Grisanti sisters? 

 

I don't follow. 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Thanks @Dougal

I only dug deep enough into the Grisanti Sisters on the web to learn "Midget mobster Peewee Bobanza's dead body was found in a suitcase, right between Angela's beaver mink coat and the veal shank she was carrying for Mother's Day. She burned the suitcase, the beaver mink coat, ... "and that veal shank never did taste right."
- But this is taking us somewhat off topic.

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2 hours ago, KJP said:

 

I don't follow. 

 The Grisanti sisters owned a small down-and-out property (on E12th?) that was the last property standing in the way of the Erieview redevelopment.  They first refused to sell on any terms, then held out for 10x the value of the property causing a lengthy delay while the condemnation wound its way through Jarndyce v Jarndyce scale legal proceedings.  Eventually they got a bit over appraised value and construction began.

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

@Dougal  Thanks! I know nothing about the Golden Girls TV program, but read through an entire episode trying to learn the connection to Irishtown Bend or Bobby George. 😆

Funny coincidence that "The Grisanti Sisters" were the names of some characters on that show. 

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13 minutes ago, ExPatClevGuy said:

@Dougal  Thanks! I know nothing about the Golden Girls TV program, but read through an entire episode trying to learn the connection to Irishtown Bend or Bobby George. 😆

Funny coincidence that "The Grisanti Sisters" were the names of some characters on that show. 

https://goldengirls.fandom.com/wiki/Angela_Vecchio

 

That's the only reference to the Grisanti Sisters I found from a Google search! I could figure out how it would come into play here.

 

Thanks for the info on Erieview. I suspect the same thing is going to happen here with the Irishtown Bend project -- especially when the covered trail to downtown starts moving forward in a visible way in 3-2-1....

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Proposed improvements on W. Franklin Boulevard. Read more about it here: https://westfranklincle.com/

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Love it! I can only hope we see some updates soon on the Lorain Ave Bikeway. 

^ MUCH NEEDED!

Is a transversable concrete island just a roundabout or is it different?

Are roundabouts more traffic-calming than traffic lights?   With all the traffic lights removed, it looks like Franklin would become a dirt-biker's dream.

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3 minutes ago, gruver said:

Are roundabouts more traffic-calming that traffic lights?   With all the traffic lights removed, it looks like Franklin would become a dirt-biker's dream.

 

Let's not pretend people who ride dirt bikes on city streets obey traffic lights or other laws.

1 hour ago, gruver said:

Are roundabouts more traffic-calming than traffic lights?   With all the traffic lights removed, it looks like Franklin would become a dirt-biker's dream.

 

I don't know, but they're less pedestrian friendly than stop signs.  It seems their purpose is to keep traffic moving through intersections unimpeded, yet they keep getting labeled as "traffic calming".

Designs look great! I used to run, bike, walk and drive down Franklin. These changes are definitely needed. In Seattle, we have many of these smaller roundabouts in our neighborhood (where there are homes like Franklin), and they do a good job of keeping cars moving slowly though the neighborhood and maintaining the pedestrian feel. 

I wish this one would have matched the height of 4309 Lorain.

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3 hours ago, gruver said:

Are roundabouts more traffic-calming than traffic lights?   With all the traffic lights removed, it looks like Franklin would become a dirt-biker's dream.

 

My wife calls the red lights on Franklin "stoptional" on her morning commute. 

5 hours ago, downtownjoe said:

Proposed improvements on W. Franklin Boulevard. Read more about it here: https://westfranklincle.com/

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Love it! I can only hope we see some updates soon on the Lorain Ave Bikeway. 

 

I'm surprised that people are praising this botched job. We will be spending $3.2MM to basically take out the traffic lights and resurface the street.

 

As others have noted, this design is unlikely to calm traffic; it seems like it might even allow speeds to increase. Most of the proven calming techniques that were on the preliminary proposals have been removed from the final design.

  • The roundabouts will just be low rounded concrete bumps that can simply be driven over instead of forcing cars to slow way down and go around
  • The lanes will remain at their current speed-encouraging width, instead of narrowed to make drivers less comfortable
  • There will not be curb bump outs at intersections to calm traffic and provide a shorter crossing distance for pedestrians
  • The sides of the street used for parking will not alternate to cause the road to seem less like a drag strip
  • Crosswalks will just get the easily-ignored flashing signs instead of being raised into speed tables
  • There will be no additional safety features for bicycles -- just the same useless "sharrows" that are there now

Extremely disappointing.

 

As the project website states, "some adjustments from the TLCI plan are necessary as the design advances from conceptual to engineering design standards". My guess is that any design elements that did not strictly follow the MUTCD were simply removed by city traffic engineers.

 

I've written to Councilman McCormack expressing my extreme disappointment that yet another community engagement effort has been derailed and ignored by the city.

4 hours ago, X said:

 

I don't know, but they're less pedestrian friendly than stop signs.  It seems their purpose is to keep traffic moving through intersections unimpeded, yet they keep getting labeled as "traffic calming".

Agreed--in fact in busy UK cities with roundabouts, there are always pedestrian under/over passes otherwise pedestrians would never stand a chance! 

The crosswalk locations would make walking down Franklin extremely annoying.  

 

I'm afraid to ask, but would there be a reduction in the speed limit from 35mph?  That speed limit for a street like this still seems absolutely insane to me. 

8 hours ago, StapHanger said:

The crosswalk locations would make walking down Franklin extremely annoying.  

 

I'm afraid to ask, but would there be a reduction in the speed limit from 35mph?  That speed limit for a street like this still seems absolutely insane to me. 

 

The crosswalks are actually an excellent point, and I already voiced my support for the project. 

 

In all honesty - and this would KILL my morning commute - but I wouldn't mind seeing Bridge and Franklin each turned into one-ways from 25th to 65th and dedicate at least 30% of each street to multi-modal

Turning roads one-way is also the opposite of traffic calming.  One-way streets actually encourage higher speeds.

39 minutes ago, X said:

Turning roads one-way is also the opposite of traffic calming.  One-way streets actually encourage higher speeds.

 

I have so much to learn from you folks

10 hours ago, StapHanger said:

The crosswalk locations would make walking down Franklin extremely annoying.  

 

I'm afraid to ask, but would there be a reduction in the speed limit from 35mph?  That speed limit for a street like this still seems absolutely insane to me. 

I've heard that the reason behind all the random 35MPH streets around town has something to do with ODOT. I don't know the source or whatever and perhaps someone on here could elaborate. 

 

I totally agree though, no street in the city should be above 25, granted it's not like the cops enforce it anyways.

31 minutes ago, GISguy said:

I've heard that the reason behind all the random 35MPH streets around town has something to do with ODOT. I don't know the source or whatever and perhaps someone on here could elaborate. 

 

I totally agree though, no street in the city should be above 25, granted it's not like the cops enforce it anyways.

It's state law. Any continuous street that's more than a mile long, not in a business district, and within a single municipality, is designated a "through highway". (ORC 4511.65)  And the designated speed limit for through highways within a municipality is 35 MPH. (ORC 4511.21). There are provisions for municipalities to do appropriate engineering and traffic studies to raise or lower the standard speed limit.

 

I'm not certain if this current effort is going to be used to request a speed limit change for Franklin. If this was happening, you would think they would mention it on the project website, and I don't see it there.

 

I'll just mention that folks already routinely ignore the current 35 MPH speed limit. It seems logical that if the speed limit is lowered, and nothing else is done to calm traffic, that not much will change in this regard. Speed limits need to reflect conditions -- they rarely work to impose them. (See the West Shoreway for a great example of this.)

^Thanks! And yes, without automated speed enforcement (which I strongly support, if designed well), I understand and agree the speed limit won't mean much.  Your earlier post really nailed it. The current proposal is just some dumb painted lines and paving texture. Weak stuff. 

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