July 21, 20213 yr Thanks, I'm skeptical after seeing this, but I'll check them out. (Edit: Yes, an interesting body of work, but none of it shown online featuring gunmetal grey aluminum siding, and most offer some appealing quirks that invite the eye, or other redeeming creative features that are 100% absent here) Did modernity bring about the end of front porches or even sheltered entrances? Sometimes residents will arrive home in the rain or snow, and sometimes they might like to interact with their neighbors or passers-by on the street. As for the structure shown here: Modernist? Yes. Cold, stark, and bereft of interest? Also yes. Edited July 21, 20213 yr by ExPatClevGuy
July 21, 20213 yr Stark geometry is what matters in architecture! Not silly amenities for the comfort of the users like sheltered entrances!
July 22, 20213 yr Ohio City Inc. purchases Front Steps Housing and Services land for Irishtown Bend Kevin Barry - News 5 - July 21, 2021 "Ohio City Incorporated has purchased the land where Front Steps Housing and Services used to be located at 1545 West 25 Street so that the land can eventually be used for Irishtown Bend. Until March 1, 2022, the building will continue operating as a temporary emergency shelter for the YMCA Greater Cleveland, providing more space for the population at the Norma Herr Women's Center. ... County records show they purchased the land on July 2, 2021 for $500,000."
July 22, 20213 yr The last unit of Knez's The Nikolai 6-unit condo development is now under contract. I really hope that this signals for further (and bigger) condo development in Ohio City. Watching it over time, the mid-ranged units (~$350k ~1300 SF 2bd/ba) sold very quickly. The ~$600k units took a bit longer. It was one of the one-bed units that took the longest, and is now under contract at $250k compared to the originally listed $280k. It's a small sample size, but still an interesting test of the market.
July 22, 20213 yr On 7/21/2021 at 1:41 PM, ExPatClevGuy said: @dastler 😒 Well, that is some austere looking @%*#^! Compared to the residential form and design of what is on either side of it, I'm actually appalled at the paucity of architectural interest. It is neither creative nor inspired, and shows no indication of aspiration to either. What it is, is a low-ball low budget, battleship grey fail to meet the design integrity of an entire community. IMO This stuff is architectural fly-over country. I sincerely wish for the City/community to give them the needed feedback we all so roundly applauded when they politely told Sherwin Williams to go back to the drawing board over elements of their new HQ. Given the higher density of this development compared to its surroundings, there should be cost savings that support additional design amenities than what are shown. - Ugh! - NIMBYs of Cleveland where are you? Please come out of the woodwork on this one. It's not really my place as a resident to judge a proposal on its soft choices like color. Also keep in mind these are apartments and not single family homes... the 4 ground units have covered porches and the 2nd/3rd floors have covered/shared entrances off the rear. Also, just based on seeing the progress of other projects I know that Horton does a significantly better product than other builders (ahem, Cleveland Bricks). In my mind, the more units the better... more supply to keep prices lower and more density to support more businesses that I can patronize in my immediate area. Fwiw, I think the context elevation should've included the two new houses down to the left, they are much closer in scale to the proposed apartments. They also did themselves a disservice not including the two story addition to the red house on the left, it adds just a biiit more height to the front elevation. The housing to the right beyond the two shown houses is also extremely dense, built up right to the lot lines. So while the style doesn't really match the homes of the early 1900's, the form matches well imo. Last comment, I have to imagine that this is a swing for the fences type of density proposal... Horton will build it if the residents support it, but my suspicion is that they'll "compromise" when they get pushback at the density and scale it back to 8-10 units or 4 townhomes. Parking is always the huge concern and I think this parcel can accommodate one space per unit for 8 total units pretty easily once you add in street parking. Edited July 22, 20213 yr by dastler
July 22, 20213 yr 8 hours ago, tykaps said: The last unit of Knez's The Nikolai 6-unit condo development is now under contract. I really hope that this signals for further (and bigger) condo development in Ohio City. Watching it over time, the mid-ranged units (~$350k ~1300 SF 2bd/ba) sold very quickly. The ~$600k units took a bit longer. It was one of the one-bed units that took the longest, and is now under contract at $250k compared to the originally listed $280k. It's a small sample size, but still an interesting test of the market. Knez is still moving full steam ahead on their Bailey Bridge Townhomes, but it looks like the units aren't moving very quickly on zillow. I wonder if the market is softening or if people just don't want to pre-purchase. I thought at the ~$350k price point they would do well.
July 22, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, dastler said: Knez is still moving full steam ahead on their Bailey Bridge Townhomes, but it looks like the units aren't moving very quickly on zillow. I wonder if the market is softening or if people just don't want to pre-purchase. I thought at the ~$350k price point they would do well. I'd also argue that small differences in location can also make a huge difference in appeal in places like Ohio City. There's a lot more restaurants/stores in a 5-10 minute walk of The Nikolai compared to Bailey Bridge. Hingetown also has a better and safer reputation compared to SOLO. I hope I'm wrong though, and that sales pick up on those townhomes.
July 22, 20213 yr It's nice out and I had a few minutes so I went for a walk around the block to take some update pictures from a couple projects planned or in progress around me: First is the empty lot at 3601 Siam Ave that is planned to be 3 SFH with a shared driveway by Cleveland Bricks: Completed new build home on the right at 3516 Siam Ave by Cleveland Bricks. Just sold this month. Two progress photos of Bailey Bridge Townhomes by Knez at the corner of Fulton/Bailey Empty lot that is planned to be 3 single family homes at Fulton/Monroe by Cleveland Bricks.
July 22, 20213 yr That looks like an archaeological dig site! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 27, 20213 yr 41 West Development (7-25-21) Harbor 44 Building Franklin West Apartment Building - 4815 Franklin Blvd Hinge Town Homes - 3105 Vine Ct The Nikolai Condominiums - 3703 Clinton Ave Harbor Whitman Townhomes - 44th and Whitman Bailey Bridge Townhomes Hingetown Creative Hangars Miscellaneous Infill Housing: 4608 Clinton Ave 3811 Clinton Ave 1865 W 45th St 1928 W 48th St 2078 W 44th St
July 27, 20213 yr 48 minutes ago, NorthShore647 said: 41 West Development (7-25-21) Harbor 44 Building Franklin West Apartment Building - 4815 Franklin Blvd Hinge Town Homes - 3105 Vine Ct The Nikolai Condominiums - 3703 Clinton Ave Harbor Whitman Townhomes - 44th and Whitman Bailey Bridge Townhomes Hingetown Creative Hangars Miscellaneous Infill Housing: 4608 Clinton Ave 3811 Clinton Ave 1865 W 45th St 1928 W 48th St 2078 W 44th St West 48th has at least 5+ rehabs happening (and 2 new builds). Ohio City has so much room for growth still, it's incredible.
July 27, 20213 yr A house was just torn down on my street (50th) and they're already started to dig out a basement for a new build. This will be the 8th flip on my block in 12 months. (only 22 houses on my block)
July 27, 20213 yr While a nice building on its own, the setback on the top level of the Nicolai just looks ridiculous in comparison to the building next door. But somehow I'm sure the local block club is happy because those two buildings clashing with each other somehow fits with the character of the neighborhood.
July 28, 20213 yr I may have missed in but what is going into this building on West 25th and Bridge? Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
July 28, 20213 yr It was supposed to be some sort of games/arcade/bar concept, but Covid has delayed if not killed it.
July 28, 20213 yr 4 minutes ago, X said: It was supposed to be some sort of games/arcade/bar concept, but Covid has delayed if not killed it. Was this supposed to be 16 bit?
July 28, 20213 yr 9 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said: Was this supposed to be 16 bit? Correct! As of a few months ago, they plan on opening this fall. https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2021/03/16-bit-bar-arcade-closes-lakewood-location-moving-to-ohio-city-with-pins-mechanical-co.html
July 28, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, downtownjoe said: Correct! As of a few months ago, they plan on opening this fall. https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2021/03/16-bit-bar-arcade-closes-lakewood-location-moving-to-ohio-city-with-pins-mechanical-co.html I’m extremely excited for this though because this will add an entertainment aspect to the neighborhood that I believe that stretch of West 25th is missing. The more diverse the offerings are in the neighborhood the more sustainable it will be.
July 28, 20213 yr 4 hours ago, X said: It was supposed to be some sort of games/arcade/bar concept, but Covid has delayed if not killed it. Delayed not killed. They submitted a permit for exterior signage just a week ago.
July 28, 20213 yr 7 hours ago, tykaps said: Delayed not killed. They submitted a permit for exterior signage just a week ago. Good to hear, I've been looking forward to it!
July 28, 20213 yr West Franklin Apartments added sod this morning and it's looking (surprisingly) good. I caught a local resident screaming at the construction crew this morning over how late they were working the previous nights - which was just a cherry on top.
July 28, 20213 yr 9 hours ago, X said: Good to hear, I've been looking forward to it! Yeah, they’ve been full go on this the past few weeks.
July 31, 20213 yr On 7/29/2021 at 12:25 PM, yanni_gogolak said: It's a shame what happened to the design of Harbor 44. What were the originals? I think the existing is attractive enough. The grey and black isn't for everyone but not everything has to be classic red brick imo.
July 31, 20213 yr It was reduced in scale. I think they chopped a story or two off of it in response to community "input." "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 2, 20213 yr On 7/30/2021 at 11:04 PM, dastler said: What were the originals? I think the existing is attractive enough. The grey and black isn't for everyone but not everything has to be classic red brick imo. Original: https://www.redhousestudio.net/pages/architecture/commercial/w44l
August 3, 20213 yr Original: https://www.redhousestudio.net/pages/architecture/commercial/w44lThese are so drastically different that you'd figure they were two completely separate projectsSent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
August 4, 20213 yr Thanks again to @tykaps for the tip! WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 4, 2021 Apartments planned at ex-elderly care facility in Ohio City A first step in the approval process is starting Aug. 5 for the redevelopment of a former elderly care facility into a market-rate apartment complex at 3105 Franklin Blvd. in Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood. Dalad Group of Independence is seeking conceptual approval from a neighborhood-level design-review committee of Franklin Yards. Its vision is to redevelop the former Vantage Place assisted living facility with 38 apartments. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/08/apartments-planned-at-ex-elderly-care.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 5, 20213 yr On 7/28/2021 at 6:27 PM, marty15 said: Yeah, they’ve been full go on this the past few weeks. An update on Pins opening from MyPlace: https://www.instagram.com/p/CSMtgbvgx5K/ Expected to open January 2022, now.
August 6, 20213 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 6, 20213 yr Are they going to keep that lot across W. 31st Pl. as parking? I thought at one point there were plans for townhouses there.
August 6, 20213 yr 7 minutes ago, X said: Are they going to keep that lot across W. 31st Pl. as parking? I thought at one point there were plans for townhouses there. Yes, as noted in the article (text and site plan). "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 20, 20213 yr As of 8/20/21 41 West Development and harbor 44 Edited August 20, 20213 yr by Agreene
August 20, 20213 yr Especially love that last shot showing Intro in the background and the growing density in Ohio City. And it’s only gonna get better - especially with an Intro 2, a Bridgeworks and who knows what else - not to mention a new 600 foot tower downtown.
August 26, 20213 yr New renderings from Harbor 44 Phase 2 are up on co-urbanize: https://courbanize.com/projects/harbor44-phase2/information 😍 There's only been one negative person from the email chain in my block group compared to ~3-5 positive comments. I swear some people will complain about anything. These look about as good as anyone could hope from an urban design standpoint
August 26, 20213 yr Yep, I've been trying to get an interview with the developer. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 26, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, dastler said: New renderings from Harbor 44 Phase 2 are up on co-urbanize: https://courbanize.com/projects/harbor44-phase2/information 😍 There's only been one negative person from the email chain in my block group compared to ~3-5 positive comments. I swear some people will complain about anything. These look about as good as anyone could hope from an urban design standpoint I cannot wait to see how Lorain Ave progresses from 25th to 54th over the next 5-10 years.
August 28, 20213 yr On 7/20/2021 at 2:16 PM, dastler said: Some info from my block club regarding a 12 unit apartment building from Horton Harper at 2222 Fulton. I'm a bit nervous that it'll be harder for me to find parking on the street (we get two street spots right in front of my house ~95% of the time) but I guess it's time for me to start practicing what I preach and encourage this added density! This project is proposed on a double wide lot that currently has a single family home, so 11 additional units on the same acreage. I should note that Cha has also been proposed for further up the street near Lorain. I know it's been brought up before, but if we can continue to add density near this corner it starts to make more and more sense to add a red line stop at Fulton. Here's the courbanize link: https://courbanize.com/projects/the-clermont/information
August 30, 20213 yr Since the Random Developments thread is locked, I threw this latest S&S here. Nothing big/different with LDP's Ohio City projects, but I thought I'd share.... SATURDAY, AUGUST 28, 2021 Seeds & Sprouts XIX -- Cleveland apartment demand soars, downtown expansions & more Ohio City grows southwest with Harbor 44 phase 2, The Clermont Two proposed developments would respond to the growth of population and demand for higher-quality urban housing in the southwest part of Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood. But unlike many new housing units built in Ohio City, these two developments propose to offer a mix of market-rate and affordable units. Local Development Partners, LLC's (LDP) of Cleveland is proposing both. The larger of the two is Harbor 44 project-phase two. The 22,000-square-foot first phase was entirely commercial -- offices over retail spaces -- at the southeast corner of Lorain Avenue and West 44th Street. The building has nearly filled up all spaces. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/08/seeds-sprouts-xix-cleveland-apartment.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 30, 20213 yr 29 minutes ago, X said: Why would this be random development, and not Ohio City Development? The whole Seeds & Sprouts piece might fall under Random since it covers five different subjects. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 31, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, CleWestSide said: what is this about Cha being proposed somewhere in Ohio City? They'll be going into 2054 Fulton Rd
September 1, 20213 yr On 8/30/2021 at 8:36 PM, tykaps said: They'll be going into 2054 Fulton Rd Cha is incredible. My wife and I used to plan a date night there, and essentially go on a juice fast throughout the day leading up to it, just so we could gorge ourselves. Romantic I know.
September 1, 20213 yr 30 minutes ago, YABO713 said: Cha is incredible. My wife and I used to plan a date night there, and essentially go on a juice fast throughout the day leading up to it, just so we could gorge ourselves. Romantic I know. Every time I walk past their old location at 3800 Whitman, it makes me sad. Would love to see 3800 as a hospitality space again.
September 3, 20213 yr They've now torn down the remaining structures on the west side of 50th, closest to Detroit. I spoke with the owner of the parcels and he said they're hoping to get moving on new homes as soon as possible. Pretty exciting, as 50th North of Bridge is really turning into a great street.
September 3, 20213 yr 4 hours ago, YABO713 said: They've now torn down the remaining structures on the west side of 50th, closest to Detroit. I spoke with the owner of the parcels and he said they're hoping to get moving on new homes as soon as possible. Pretty exciting, as 50th North of Bridge is really turning into a great street. what was torn down? Houses or commercial? About how many new homes?
September 3, 20213 yr 15 minutes ago, Htsguy said: what was torn down? Houses or commercial? About how many new homes? Two homes that were in disrepair. Though they occupied 3 parcels, so I assume this frees up room for at least 3 new homes/townhomes. coincidentally, the house torn down today was wear my grandma was born in 1919 Edited September 3, 20213 yr by YABO713
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