February 14, 20223 yr Seeds & Sprouts XXII – Jacobs Pavilion, Van Dorn, Ohio City, BigHaus In this article: + Jacobs Pavilion renovations in the cards + Van Dorn Iron Works’ last structure to fall + BigHaus in Edgewater returns sans offices + Developer to demolish Ohio City eyesore MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/02/14/seeds-sprouts-xxii-jacobs-pavilion-to-refresh-van-dorn-and-ohio-city-eyesores-falling-bighaus-rising/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 14, 20223 yr If the MyPlace building at Lorain/41st leases out quickly and has a strong waitlist I could see them doing almost the exact building at Detroit/45th.
February 14, 20223 yr On 12/8/2021 at 9:48 PM, downtownjoe said: The appeal is in: https://ca.permitcleveland.org/public/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=BuildingHousing&TabName=BuildingHousing&capID1=21CAP&capID2=00000&capID3=00CPO&agencyCode=COC&IsToShowInspection= The appeal was finally heard and Board of Zoning Appeals voted to reverse the planning commissions denial of the application. We might see some development here after all!
February 14, 20223 yr ^That was one crazy vote. At least I think I finally understand what the process and procedure has been from day one. What a journey. Hopefully the neighbors don't appeal the decision to common pleas court.
February 14, 20223 yr On 2/12/2022 at 1:07 PM, ExPatClevGuy said: What's with all this unhappy judgement over the huts? They aren't ugly or wasteful, but do have a quirky fun style of their own. Sorry they aren't a glass and concrete cube, but rather they are distinctive, unique and cool. We've got nothing like them where I live in DC, and there's nothing like them in most places I've seen. The layout looks inviting to pedestrians and has a great scale and texture that relates well to the sidewalk. As for me: 👍👍👍👍👍 Exactly. The idea behind the longhouses is that they are live + work for artists, and if I recall correctly, the intent is to offer them at lower rents. I also believe that the first floor can double as an art studio. I can't wait for these to open and increase the vibrancy of the neighborhood.
February 15, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, originaljbw said: If the MyPlace building at Lorain/41st leases out quickly and has a strong waitlist I could see them doing almost the exact building at Detroit/45th. I have a proposed development for this site. And I've been trying to get it in the works for a while now.
February 15, 20223 yr 23 hours ago, KJP said: Seeds & Sprouts XXII – Jacobs Pavilion, Van Dorn, Ohio City, BigHaus In this article: + Jacobs Pavilion renovations in the cards + Van Dorn Iron Works’ last structure to fall + BigHaus in Edgewater returns sans offices + Developer to demolish Ohio City eyesore MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/02/14/seeds-sprouts-xxii-jacobs-pavilion-to-refresh-van-dorn-and-ohio-city-eyesores-falling-bighaus-rising/ Man, this bldg was home to some of the best graffiti haha Edited February 15, 20223 yr by GISguy
February 15, 20223 yr 13 hours ago, YABO713 said: I have a proposed development for this site. And I've been trying to get it in the works for a while now. Show us the site plan!
February 15, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, RMB said: Show us the site plan! lol it would give it all away!
February 15, 20223 yr I saw another newer Banksy “esque” style graffitti down on Scranton peninsula the week before the RNC. Always wondered if he stopped in to leave a message
February 15, 20223 yr isn't it still own by George? I figured we'd hear about any transfer or purchase.
February 15, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, dwolfi01 said: isn't it still own by George? I figured we'd hear about any transfer or purchase. you are correct. Curious what that back hoe is all about. It is still in litigation (not the eminent domain proceeding which has not even been filed yet) and boy is it a mess. George is fighting tooth and nail and it has to be costing him a fortune. There have been many motions filed including motions to dismiss which have been fully briefed and they are just sitting there with no rulings. Something strange happen last week. The case, after about 3 months, was suddenly transfered to a new judge with no reason for it indicated on the docket-just for "good cause shown".
February 15, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Htsguy said: you are correct. Curious what that back hoe is all about. It is still in litigation (not the eminent domain proceeding which has not even been filed yet) and boy is it a mess. George is fighting tooth and nail and it has to be costing him a fortune. There have been many motions filed including motions to dismiss which have been fully briefed and they are just sitting there with no rulings. Something strange happen last week. The case, after about 3 months, was suddenly transfered to a new judge with no reason for it indicated on the docket-just for "good cause shown". Over $85k in attorney fees -it'll go upwards of $175k if it goes to trial. Then you'll have new lawyers for the eminent domain issue.
February 16, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, marty15 said: Any demo permits pulled? Nothing has been submitted. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 16, 20223 yr Knez Ohio City townhouse plan wins appeal By Ken Prendergast / February 16, 2022 On Monday, the City of Cleveland’s Board of Zoning Appeals (BZA) overturned a rejection by City Planning Commission of plans for building 11 market-rate townhomes at a vacant lot at 4705 Bridge Ave. in the Ohio City neighborhood. MORE https://neo-trans.blog/2022/02/16/knez-ohio-city-townhouse-plan-wins-appeal/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 16, 20223 yr It wasn't until this BZA meeting that I finally understood the entire procedural history of this project to date. Your article does a good job of summarizing it. Glad to see Knez stuck it out. Although the half mil invested in the project to date was an incentive. By the way, I am actually luke warm on the design. I also think it is a bit bulky and something more could have been done. Maybe a step down at the ends although I am no architect. However, I am glad it is going forward; basically replacing a drug den and then a massive empty lot.
February 16, 20223 yr This will be the most attractive new build town house complex on Bridge. Front porches facing the street gives a welcoming presence and not the fortress feel, and no front facing garages and curb cuts. And it’s not clad with 8 different materials. It’s as good as anyone could ask. Edited February 16, 20223 yr by marty15
February 16, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, marty15 said: This will be the most attractive new build town house complex on Bridge. Front porches facing the street gives a welcoming presence and not the fortress feel, and no front facing garages and curb cuts. And it’s not clad with 8 different materials. It’s as good as anyone could ask. Agreed. While I emphasize with my neighbors across and beside the development, the fact is that what used to be there was a dilapidated gas station retrofitted to be a mechanic shop that was a drug front. To argue the size is too big for the area is a non-starter. It meets code and fronts Bridge which definitely calls for higher density development. To completely ignore what was there versus what will be there is insanity. The "little old blue house" used to be next door to convicted killers and extremely dangerous people. Perspective seems to get lost so often when neighbors jump on developers like this. Cleveland, say it with me, YES IN MY BACKYARD. This, to me, is one of the most important corners connecting Ohio City with Detroit Shoreway. The current empty lot is like one of the empty surface lots downtown in context to Ohio City/Detroit Shoreway– it is huge and makes it feel like there is a clear cutoff between neighborhoods. The scary thing is that this would have been fought harder by block clubs down the street. Thankfully block club 45-52 keeps perspective and approved this on it's first go-around. Edited February 16, 20223 yr by downtownjoe
February 21, 20223 yr Didn't snap a photo, but demolition of the existing structures has been taking place over the last few days. We're down to basically a dirt lot now.
February 22, 20223 yr Came across the video on Youtube randomly. Go to 16:20 - that drive overlooking Ohio City went from zero visible density to a secondary skyline. Pretty cool to see.
February 22, 20223 yr On 2/11/2022 at 11:54 AM, dwolfi01 said: aren't they suppose to change the front façade of the building to large glass windows for this one? I remember reading something about that a while ago when this was first announced. The front space of the building is going to be an oyster bar. The whole front is going to be stripped down and redone. The main entrance to Amba will be a alley way between the pizza mural side of the building and the first hut next to it. An outdoor patio will extend into the hut courtyard and around back of the restaurant. Also, the corner hut at 28th & Church is spoken for, and going to be a bar. No details other than that. It’s the largest of the huts. Edited February 22, 20223 yr by marty15
February 22, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, marty15 said: The front space of the building is going to be an oyster bar. The whole front is going to be stripped down and redone. The main entrance to Amba will be a alley way between the pizza mural side of the building and the first hut next to it. An outdoor patio will extend into the hut courtyard and around back of the restaurant. Also, the corner hut at 28th & Church is spoken for, and going to be a bar. No details other than that. It’s the largest of the huts. I think adding these spots plus the filling out of the rest of the retail in Church & State is going to take Hingetown to a whole new level. It's wild to think about how far it's come and all the potential that's still there with the Vibrator, Clinic Parking Lot, Bridgeworks.
February 22, 20223 yr 34 minutes ago, RMB said: I think adding these spots plus the filling out of the rest of the retail in Church & State is going to take Hingetown to a whole new level. It's wild to think about how far it's come and all the potential that's still there with the Vibrator, Clinic Parking Lot, Bridgeworks. Haven't heard a peep concerning Vibrator for a long time.
February 22, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Htsguy said: Haven't heard a peep concerning Vibrator for a long time. Just change the batteries
February 22, 20223 yr Does anyone know what's going in the spot at Church and State with the "Let's French" signs?
February 22, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, YABO713 said: Does anyone know what's going in the spot at Church and State with the "Let's French" signs? I'm there right now. I'll investigate.
February 23, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, YABO713 said: Does anyone know what's going in the spot at Church and State with the "Let's French" signs? The leasing plan just labels that space as "Bistro Restaurant."
February 23, 20223 yr Owners of the vibrator company and buildings recently changed course and in stead of selling the property to Snavely for another apartment tower they have decided to develop the property themselves. The plan is for retail, a park and expanded Saucy Beer Garden. The Let’s French signs are a tease for a French Restaurant in the works from the folks of Tartine in Rocky River
February 23, 20223 yr Very surprised one of the Huts is going to be a bar since they were presented to the public/neighborhood as artist live/work spaces. Church ave has become a traffic nightmare with the C&S parking garage, constant moving trucks of people moving in and out, and Saucy using the street as their loading dock. Adding a bar to the mix will add to the mess and I’m sure invoke the wrath of the residents.
February 23, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, marty15 said: The front space of the building is going to be an oyster bar. The whole front is going to be stripped down and redone. The main entrance to Amba will be a alley way between the pizza mural side of the building and the first hut next to it. An outdoor patio will extend into the hut courtyard and around back of the restaurant. Also, the corner hut at 28th & Church is spoken for, and going to be a bar. No details other than that. It’s the largest of the huts. These are fantastic. This creates a dense, almost instant, walkable entertainment district.
February 23, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, Pigmeat said: Very surprised one of the Huts is going to be a bar since they were presented to the public/neighborhood as artist live/work spaces. Church ave has become a traffic nightmare with the C&S parking garage, constant moving trucks of people moving in and out, and Saucy using the street as their loading dock. Adding a bar to the mix will add to the mess and I’m sure invoke the wrath of the residents. People get mad all the time about anything. Life will go on.
February 23, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, Pigmeat said: Very surprised one of the Huts is going to be a bar since they were presented to the public/neighborhood as artist live/work spaces. Church ave has become a traffic nightmare with the C&S parking garage, constant moving trucks of people moving in and out, and Saucy using the street as their loading dock. Adding a bar to the mix will add to the mess and I’m sure invoke the wrath of the residents. Things that happen in vibrant areas.
February 23, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, Pigmeat said: Very surprised one of the Huts is going to be a bar since they were presented to the public/neighborhood as artist live/work spaces. Church ave has become a traffic nightmare with the C&S parking garage, constant moving trucks of people moving in and out, and Saucy using the street as their loading dock. Adding a bar to the mix will add to the mess and I’m sure invoke the wrath of the residents. I would say developers presentations of new construction being artists live/work spaces are always pipe dreams. Artists make very little money off their work, so can't afford high rents of new construction, rather they populate in industrial areas or areas with low rents, which is why Asiatown is now booming with artists. Maybe architecture/design firms can rent these huts, but that seems like a stretch too.
February 23, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, Pigmeat said: Very surprised one of the Huts is going to be a bar since they were presented to the public/neighborhood as artist live/work spaces. Church ave has become a traffic nightmare with the C&S parking garage, constant moving trucks of people moving in and out, and Saucy using the street as their loading dock. Adding a bar to the mix will add to the mess and I’m sure invoke the wrath of the residents. Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded. -Yogi Berra
February 23, 20223 yr It would be great if some of these huts could adopt a micro retail model similar to what they are doing in the Seaport neighborhood in Boston.
February 23, 20223 yr 41 West Development (2-22-22) Harbor Whitman Townhomes Bailey Bridge Townhomes Cleveland Bricks townhome development at Fulton and Monroe Site of Knez's 4705 Bridge Avenue townhome development Franklin West Apartment Building
February 23, 20223 yr Amazing stuff @NorthShore647. Those Battery Park apartment buildings should get at least some of the love that intro has gotten. Collectively they're huge. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 24, 20223 yr https://knez.net/communities/the-amelia/ Here's another project about to break ground.
February 24, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Clefan98 said: https://knez.net/communities/the-amelia/ Here's another project about to break ground. I don't think that's completely new, but it looks like it's been redesigned to include some minor retail since we last saw it. I like!
February 24, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, X said: but it looks like it's been redesigned to include some minor retail since we last saw it. I like! Correct, the townhomes lining Lorain have added coworking space along the first level to meet city codes. Look for shovels in the ground next week! Edited February 24, 20223 yr by Clefan98
February 24, 20223 yr 56 minutes ago, Clefan98 said: Correct, the townhomes lining Lorain have added coworking space along the first level to meet city codes. Look for shovels in the ground next week! Nice! I noticed they had started site prep yesterday.
February 24, 20223 yr This doesn't look great but I'm happy overall to to get more people in the neighborhood. edit. Cant say for sure but this looks like what side lot setback requirements gets us. Edited February 24, 20223 yr by viscomi
February 24, 20223 yr On 2/16/2022 at 7:48 AM, KJP said: Knez Ohio City townhouse plan wins appeal By Ken Prendergast / February 16, 2022 On Monday, the City of Cleveland’s Board of Zoning Appeals (BZA) overturned a rejection by City Planning Commission of plans for building 11 market-rate townhomes at a vacant lot at 4705 Bridge Ave. in the Ohio City neighborhood. MORE https://neo-trans.blog/2022/02/16/knez-ohio-city-townhouse-plan-wins-appeal/ Fencing up around this lot! Looks like Knez wants to develop both The Amelia and this in tandem. Exciting!
February 27, 20223 yr Waterford Bluffs (West 20th @ Lorain) clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 27, 20223 yr Just took these on my way to drink a plethora of beer at Saucy Brew Works. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
February 27, 20223 yr I wonder who thought those tree planters were a good idea. They remind me of those ugly concrete planters that lined Euclid for so many years with 50% leafless trees by July 1 but "decorated" with lots of discarded McDonalds garbage year round.
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