February 23, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, KJP said: The property at the northeast corner has a pending purchase agreement. Do we know who is purchasing the property and what their intentions are?
February 23, 20232 yr Right on cue.... more info and photos on CoUrbanize https://courbanize.com/projects/45west/information https://courbanize.com/projects/50west/information
February 23, 20232 yr 32 minutes ago, RMB said: Right on cue.... more info and photos on CoUrbanize https://courbanize.com/projects/45west/information https://courbanize.com/projects/50west/information Hilariously, there are people opposed in the community. The current buildings are currently graffiti ridden/dilapidated but MY PARKING. As someone who lives on 48th, I will be active in the support of this project at all phases to drown that non-sense out. Lorain Ave should welcome all multi-family development.
February 23, 20232 yr Looks good to me! And real balconies! Sucks we’re losing one of the existing buildings, but it looks like the corner building is staying.
February 23, 20232 yr Not a huge fan of the W. 45th one. By flanking the two corner lots where Frank's Auto Service and Sunoco Gas Station are located and putting people's windows right on the lot line, it's going to make those lots awkward to develop in the future, and its going to make some pretty undesirable units in their own building if they ever do.
February 23, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, RMB said: Right on cue.... more info and photos on CoUrbanize https://courbanize.com/projects/45west/information https://courbanize.com/projects/50west/information Good for the neighborhood. It also reinforces the need for a Red Line stop between W65th and W25th stations. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
February 24, 20232 yr Cut and paste design from other terrible projects. No regard for an actual design process. Can’t even be bothered to take renderings out of Sketchup. Glad they’re filling in vacant lots but MyPlace is just as bad as Geis in my opinion. Lorain Ave deserves better. Edited February 24, 20232 yr by w28th
February 24, 20232 yr Cut and paste design from other terrible projects. No regard for an actual design process. Can’t even be bothered to take renderings out of Sketchup. Glad they’re filling in vacant lots but MyPlace is just as bad as Geis in my opinion. Lorain Ave deserves better.Not everything needs to be an architectural marvel. This is a solid brick building that creates much needed density. I don't mind itSent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
February 24, 20232 yr On 2/22/2023 at 4:58 PM, dwolfi01 said: Yeah really hoping for a new brewery to be able to swoop in and set up shop! Preferably one that treats their workers right! Maybe Great Lakes can take it over, and instead of expanding production to Scranton Peninsula, they sell that property and we get more housing down there.
February 24, 20232 yr 17 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said: Not everything needs to be an architectural marvel. This is a solid brick building that creates much needed density. I don't mind it Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk I will give you one hundred million dollars if that is actual brick
February 24, 20232 yr 201 more apartments for Lorain Ave. By Ken Prendergast / February 24, 2023 With the paint still drying on its latest development along Lorain Avenue in Cleveland’s Ohio City neighborhood, real estate developer My Place Group is already planning its next investments which would extend that thoroughfare’s rebirth westward. Conceptual plans are being shopped around and among community stakeholders to get their input on two new developments that would add a total of 201 apartments plus additional ground-level retail spaces to the section of Lorain between West 44th and West 52nd streets. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/02/24/201-more-apartments-for-lorain-ave/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 27, 20232 yr On 2/23/2023 at 10:14 PM, MyPhoneDead said: Not everything needs to be an architectural marvel. This is a solid brick building that creates much needed density. I don't mind it Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk We are past the days of "Hey, someone wants to build in Cleveland! Be happy for that and disregard design!"
February 27, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, yanni_gogolak said: We are past the days of "Hey, someone wants to build in Cleveland! Be happy for that and disregard design!" Hard disagree. The city shouldn't be stepping in and dictating the way that a building looks. They should ensure that it's safe and that's really about it imo.
February 27, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, yanni_gogolak said: We are past the days of "Hey, someone wants to build in Cleveland! Be happy for that and disregard design!" We all know these designs still need to go through the committees and they will evolve. I walk/drive this stretch almost daily, broken glass lines the sidewalks, spray painted storefronts dominate, ivy growing through windows. While there is a lot of renewal happening, new builds that increase density/population to this massive street should be welcome with open arms and the design/details can be worked out in the process. We are not past the days of being excited for new builds that add population, mediocre or generic. Edited February 27, 20232 yr by downtownjoe
February 28, 20232 yr We are past the days of "Hey, someone wants to build in Cleveland! Be happy for that and disregard design!"The design is not on that level of “settling” it is solid urban infill. It’s not some hideous monstrosity that is an eyesore. I respectfully feel this is an overreaction. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
March 1, 20232 yr On 2/27/2023 at 3:02 PM, dastler said: Hard disagree. The city shouldn't be stepping in and dictating the way that a building looks. They should ensure that it's safe and that's really about it imo. Nobody said anything about the city dictating design?
March 3, 20232 yr This could probably go in any number of threads: Public meeting scheduled March 7 to address physical isolation of Lakeview Estates caused by West Shoreway CLEVELAND, Ohio — Residents of the Lakeview Estates public housing complex on the city’s West Side have suffered for decades from dust and fumes generated by 500 to 1,000 trucks a day rumbling through their community on the way from Whiskey Island to regional highways. Adding a psychic dimension to one of the city’s longest-tolerated examples of environmental injustice is that Lakeview has been walled off from the rest of Ohio City to the south by the elevated western portion of the Shoreway, built after World War II. https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/03/public-meeting-scheduled-march-7-to-address-physical-isolation-of-lakeview-estates-caused-by-west-shoreway.html
March 3, 20232 yr Ugh. The Shoreway was built in 1939... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 6, 20232 yr My only complaint on the 50th and Lorain project is I think they should work to keep both existing building on the corner (only one is included currently). I don't think the renders fully capture what a single building taking up nearly a full blocks worth of frontage along Lorain will feel like. Even though the existing building is small I think retaining it can only help to blend the new development in better. Also being small I doubt it will be hard to include it in this project as well.
March 8, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, dwolfi01 said: Looks like some work being done on the front of this building at W28th and Detroit Can't find any permits about this project, so odd. @marty15said last month the last they heard it was going to be an oyster bar. Edited March 8, 20232 yr by downtownjoe
March 8, 20232 yr That was a year ago that I was told that, by Graham. Things may have changed, but hopefully not!
March 8, 20232 yr 27 minutes ago, downtownjoe said: Can't find any permits about this project, so odd. @marty15said last month the last they heard it was going to be an oyster bar. It may have been covered by the Amba build out. Check there.
March 15, 20232 yr FYI: “Tonight at 6pm, MyPlace Group will be hosting a meeting this at 3500 Lorain Avenue, Suite 100, Cleveland Ohio 44113 (MyPlace offices) to discuss 45West & 50West. The entrance is on Lorain Avenue. Parking is available in the rear lot & on-street parking is available on Fulton and Lorain Ave. MyPlace Group will be going over the initial plans for the proposed development and we are looking forward to continuing the conversation with neighbors.”
March 21, 20232 yr Let 'em have it, UrbanOhioans.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 21, 20232 yr In case you are interested in the latest site plan of the above project, this is from the March 23rd landmark agenda: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h5xv1hbct39aam4/AABIIVnvHt25uvdRa2rCI_X6a/Clinton Avenue Homes.pdf?dl=0
March 21, 20232 yr Oh yeah. This is way too dense. This pic reminds me of something out of Hong Kong or Manilla. 😂
March 21, 20232 yr The site plan is great. I live in this neighborhood and feel so sorry for any developer or resident for that matter who wants to build new or renovate. This part of OC is filled is self appointed urban planning experts who feel they have the right to dictate what someone can do with their property. Eventually if they keep getting their way investment will stop here and the whole city will suffer as a result.
March 21, 20232 yr What makes this different or dense than most any other lots in the neighborhood, other than the auto court in the rear puts all the car traffic out of site?
March 21, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, Mendo said: In case you are interested in the latest site plan of the above project, this is from the March 23rd landmark agenda: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h5xv1hbct39aam4/AABIIVnvHt25uvdRa2rCI_X6a/Clinton Avenue Homes.pdf?dl=0 All those separate garages are so weird to me. They consume so much of the available space. I feel like it would make more sense to make one shared 12 car garage in the bottom corner of the lot with a single driveway. Then you could have a nice big shared yard OR bigger individual yards for each unit. The side set backs and space between the townhomes are also completely wasted. We so desperately need a new form overlay code. For the record, I’m very supportive of this project and I think it is an improvement over what is there now, it’s just frustrating to see all the sacrifices necessitated by poor zoning and building code guidance. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
March 21, 20232 yr The anti-density people make a very good point. What that point is l couldn't tell you.
March 21, 20232 yr 58 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said: The side set backs and space between the townhomes are also completely wasted. I completely agree with you about the garages. That said, assuming the sides of the houses have windows the side lawns are not a complete waste. There won't be any view to speak of, but they will still let in natural light. It also creates an outdoor path to the backyard. Not saying it's better use of the space than just building townhouses, but I can see tradeoffs. Also, a large communal green space sounds like a huge improvement, and it most cases it would be, unless you move in and hate your neighbors... I'd be interested to see how this could be laid out with one ten car garage. Instead of five two car garages.
March 21, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, Ethan said: I completely agree with you about the garages. That said, assuming the sides of the houses have windows the side lawns are not a complete waste. There won't be any view to speak of, but they will still let in natural light. It also creates an outdoor path to the backyard. Not saying it's better use of the space than just building townhouses, but I can see tradeoffs. Also, a large communal green space sounds like a huge improvement, and it most cases it would be, unless you move in and hate your neighbors... I'd be interested to see how this could be laid out with one ten car garage. Instead of five two car garages. I've always thought that it would be better to have a townhouse with a decently soundproofed firewall between units than tightly packed single family homes with windows awkwardly facing each other 8' away.
March 21, 20232 yr I wouldn’t normally object too much about such a meh design but it’s going in right next to those beautifully renovated row houses. Pretty uninspiring.
March 21, 20232 yr 8 hours ago, Ethan said: I completely agree with you about the garages. That said, assuming the sides of the houses have windows the side lawns are not a complete waste. There won't be any view to speak of, but they will still let in natural light. It also creates an outdoor path to the backyard. Not saying it's better use of the space than just building townhouses, but I can see tradeoffs. Also, a large communal green space sounds like a huge improvement, and it most cases it would be, unless you move in and hate your neighbors... I'd be interested to see how this could be laid out with one ten car garage. Instead of five two car garages. I wouldn’t just make the buildings wider - the additional width means the building could be less deep with the same square footage. Front and back windows could be larger. More parts of the floor plan would be closer to windows. AND the usable yard would be larger. (Or the units could just be larger without consuming more yard.) Thinner buildings enable larger courtyards. It’s the same argument as for point-access buildings instead of double-loaded corridors. If you look closely to the space between the buildings on the right, there is a fence blocking access to the yard. So you can’t actually use that space even for access. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
March 22, 20232 yr One thing no one is talking about is that there are people that exist that don't want a yard. I have plenty of friends that like not having a yard or a small yard they can have zeroscaped so that it requires almost no effort to maintain and still look good.
March 22, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, dwolfi01 said: One thing no one is talking about is that there are people that exist that don't want a yard. I have plenty of friends that like not having a yard or a small yard they can have zeroscaped so that it requires almost no effort to maintain and still look good. I artificial turfed my small backyard. Also means no muddy dog in the house. You’re exactly right.
March 24, 20232 yr St. Ignatius High School may demolish its power plant and century-old gym to make way for addition https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2023/03/st-ignatius-high-school-may-demolish-its-power-plant-and-century-old-gym-to-make-way-for-addition.html
March 24, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, scb0525 said: St. Ignatius High School may demolish its power plant and century-old gym to make way for addition https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2023/03/st-ignatius-high-school-may-demolish-its-power-plant-and-century-old-gym-to-make-way-for-addition.html Would rather see this built across the street on the surface lot.
March 24, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, scb0525 said: St. Ignatius High School may demolish its power plant and century-old gym to make way for addition https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2023/03/st-ignatius-high-school-may-demolish-its-power-plant-and-century-old-gym-to-make-way-for-addition.html Sheesh. I cannot afford to go on vacation or I'll miss so much good stuff! I had to write the Irishtown Bend article from a sofa in our air b&b in Florida after driving across the state. The Seeds & Sprouts and the Ukrainian art firm article were both pre-written. And now St. Iggy has a cool new project that I missed because I'm traveling. I guess the old days of Cleveland are over when you could go on vacation and not miss anything happening. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 24, 20232 yr 58 minutes ago, marty15 said: Would rather see this built across the street on the surface lot. Lots of rumors about that lot and other significant properties bordering the school.
March 24, 20232 yr I heard rumors that they wanted their permanent football stadium on campus. I would love to see that. Feel it would be used for a ton of events. Bring the Lakewood Stadium/Madison Ave. vibe to OHC. I lived in that neighborhood of Lakewood for years. Always loved the sound of the marching bands in the evening.
March 24, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, marty15 said: I heard rumors that they wanted their permanent football stadium on campus. I would love to see that. Feel it would be used for a ton of events. Bring the Lakewood Stadium/Madison Ave. vibe to OHC. I lived in that neighborhood of Lakewood for years. Always loved the sound of the marching bands in the evening. You're on to something there, especially after hosting the first varsity game ever on that field last year. Rumor is that there will be three this year. Big question is where would people visiting a "stadium" park? Hmm...what could be built on that surface lot to address that? Master plans span 10 years...
March 24, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, scb0525 said: St. Ignatius High School may demolish its power plant and century-old gym to make way for addition https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2023/03/st-ignatius-high-school-may-demolish-its-power-plant-and-century-old-gym-to-make-way-for-addition.html Interesting news! It always bothered me how bland the plant and additions were in contrast to the original school. Edited March 24, 20232 yr by surfohio
March 31, 20232 yr I ride past this everyday, can someone tell me what they are doing with this building? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
March 31, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said: I ride past this everyday, can someone tell me what they are doing with this building? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk As of a year ago, I was told it was going to be an oyster bar. I haven’t heard anything different since. That was from Graham.
March 31, 20232 yr https://neo-trans.blog/2020/06/13/longhouse-huts-proposed-for-ohio-citys-hingetown/ Had a tough time finding out where I read about it but I finally found it in this article. About halfway down Ken talks about it. No mention of the tenants going in just what the developers plans are with a blueprint pic. Quote The Schaefer Building, at left in the top elevation, will have its facade opened up with a glassy storefront or two as part of the Longhouses development
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