15 hours ago, Dougal said:

I like the five-story building better; it has a "Cleveland" look.  The six-story building is a ho-hummer.

I agree. The Clinton one has character, whereas the Detroit Ave one is low budget, generic architecture. I for one envy the design standards in Columbus sometimes.

21 hours ago, Dougal said:

I like the five-story building better; it has a "Cleveland" look.  The six-story building is a ho-hummer.

12 hours ago, DinaB said:

 

ho-hummer?  six stories is better than five (and seven is better than six). The more units the better! And with that design, from the street, it LOOKS like five-stories as the sixth floor looks like it is set back from the street wall---probably to give a patios to the units on the sixth floor. I like the design.

 

8 hours ago, Dougal said:

 

Ho-hummer = bland architecture common with many other similar-sized buildings.  Nothing wrong with it; but nothing exceptional either, at least IMO.  

 

Oh, okay! I had googled "ho-hummer" and the first thing that I had come up was an urban dictionary definition--and thought, that's a strange way to describe the design! 

 

On 9/22/2023 at 1:42 PM, Enginerd said:

Ugh, now I’ll have to attend the block club meeting to vote in favor.

 

It's my block club too - and I'll be there with you. 

 

But holy hell some of our neighbors are stupid - I feel bad saying that but it's true. It's like they're all cosplaying Portlandia characters 95% of the time, and then whenever a vote comes around that would (God forbid) add a higher density project to the neighborhood they become Cletus from Lodi. 

 

The design isn't my taste, but it's thoughtful and it won't age poorly. I'm not sure what more I could ask? 

1 hour ago, DinaB said:

 

 

Oh, okay! I had googled "ho-hummer" and the first thing that I had come up was an urban dictionary definition--and thought, that's a strange way to describe the design! 

 

Ok, I looked it up also and I guess I won't be using that term anymore.  🤐

1 hour ago, Dougal said:

Ok, I looked it up also and I guess I won't be using that term anymore.  🤐

Why? It's just another way to say the design sucks... 🤣

 

All joking aside, I love the density and hope it gets approved! This area has really undergone quite the transformation!

Okay, this is moving.
 

https://x.com/cci_contractors/status/1706290233136885983?s=46&t=-ApuSKXOhKYOFRRl1ySrew

2 hours ago, marty15 said:

Okay, this is moving.
 

https://x.com/cci_contractors/status/1706290233136885983?s=46&t=-ApuSKXOhKYOFRRl1ySrew

 

Just my NEOtrans article picked up by CleMag.

North High Brewing has closed [emoji26] i’ve been there about five times and it was never busy. Cool spot though with pretty good food


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1 hour ago, GREGinPARMA said:

North High Brewing has closed i’ve been there about five times and it was never busy. Cool spot though with pretty good food


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I’m ashamed to say I didn’t even know it existed. 

1 minute ago, roman totale XVII said:

I’m ashamed to say I didn’t even know it existed. 

It was pretty hidden. 

Never heard of the CLE location either.  Too bad.  The craft brewing market is super saturated.  Not sure how many of them survive.  Kind of reminds me of Southern Tier’s CLE outpost.  A great brewery but how is that tap room doing?

4 minutes ago, BigMacky said:

Never heard of the CLE location either.  Too bad.  The craft brewing market is super saturated.  Not sure how many of them survive.  Kind of reminds me of Southern Tier’s CLE outpost.  A great brewery but how is that tap room doing?

And there was a Beachwood North High Brewing location that closed last year and didn't even last 6-7 months. Ouch.

8 hours ago, GREGinPARMA said:

North High Brewing has closed i’ve been there about five times and it was never busy. Cool spot though with pretty good food


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Dang, I actually thought it was doing ok.

Ohio City Farm is planning to build out a "global farmers market". This space will likely only get better once Irishtown Bend Park is completed and sounds like it will be a nice addition to the neighborhood. Hopefully it's synergistic with the Westside Market.

 

Also, some interesting data points/stats on immigration at the end of the article. 

 

Ohio City Farm plans to expand with a ‘global farmers market’ building

BY SOPHIA LUCENTE

SEPTEMBER 26, 2023

 

"The entrance of the 14,000-square-foot building will be accessible to the public from Bridge Ave. and W. 24th St. It will have glass windows visitors can look through to see inside, where there will be an area for the market, which will sell produce grown onsite, plus space for select outside vendors to sell their products. 

 

...

 

“This is going to allow us to go four seasons, which is going to allow our team to have full employment throughout the year,” Kearns said of the new building. “It’s also going to give them a heated workspace, a locker room, indoor plumbing for the first time in 13 years, retail and vending for the public, and a commercial kitchen.”

 

“Our goal is all together to have 12 vendors, 5 restaurant partners, 5 food partners, as well as five different jobs created to support the environment itself,” Kearns continued. The vendors and restaurants have not been decided yet, and the food partners will be new entrepreneurs in the Cleveland area that will have access to the commercial kitchen."

 

https://thelandcle.org/stories/ohio-city-farm-plans-to-expand-with-a-global-farmers-market-building/

Too bad they couldn’t partner with the West Side Market, who needs tenants and is a couple of blocks away

8 minutes ago, Pigmeat said:

Too bad they couldn’t partner with the West Side Market, who needs tenants and is a couple of blocks away

 

57 minutes ago, Luke_S said:

“It’s also going to give them a heated workspace, a locker room, indoor plumbing for the first time in 13 years, retail and vending for the public, and a commercial kitchen.”

 

Many of the things listed need to be on the farm. Maybe the market part should be in WSM but the farm also probably doesn't want to wait around for the city to get it together.

Won’t a big chunk of the farm be eliminated when they reroute Franklin?

21 hours ago, GREGinPARMA said:

North High Brewing has closed i’ve been there about five times and it was never busy. Cool spot though with pretty good food

 

20 hours ago, roman totale XVII said:

I’m ashamed to say I didn’t even know it existed. 

 

20 hours ago, marty15 said:

It was pretty hidden. 

 

19 hours ago, BigMacky said:

Never heard of the CLE location either.  Too bad.  The craft brewing market is super saturated.  Not sure how many of them survive.  Kind of reminds me of Southern Tier’s CLE outpost.  A great brewery but how is that tap room doing?

 

I'm in the area pretty regularly and I never knew it was there either. It looks like it had no outdoor signage? Or at least nothing generally visible? Always sad to see a business fail and shut down--but in this case, it looks like it was their own doing---no marketing or signage whatsoever, yet signage for another business on the building. How could they expect to stay in business anywhere?

Went there several times.Not sure why it closed but it wasn’t hidden it was on a major intersection, within walking distance of The Quarter l & ll, Church and State and the Knitting Mills apartments.  They did a great job remodeling the old Bounce nightclub into their space.  Hopefully it’s not vacant long.

It closed previously at the Beachwood Place Co-hatch.

On 9/18/2023 at 8:16 PM, marty15 said:

Some activity at Harbor 44 phase 2 site.

Footers/foundation work has started.

On 9/28/2023 at 12:19 PM, marty15 said:

Footers/foundation work has started.

 

Blocking the sidewalk should be a crime.

16 minutes ago, noname said:

Blocking the sidewalk should be a crime.

From what I can see it is a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act…

13 hours ago, noname said:

Blocking the sidewalk should be a crime.

I believe the city passed legislation a couple of years ago requiring contractors to maintain a safe pedestrian passage during construction. 

2 hours ago, OC_Charlie said:

I believe the city passed legislation a couple of years ago requiring contractors to maintain a safe pedestrian passage during construction. 

Like most things in Cleveland building, there is very little, if any enforcement.  

On 9/30/2023 at 7:28 AM, OC_Charlie said:

I believe the city passed legislation a couple of years ago requiring contractors to maintain a safe pedestrian passage during construction. 

 

On 9/30/2023 at 9:42 AM, Cleburger said:

Like most things in Cleveland building, there is very little, if any enforcement.  

 

We can look up if sn Obstruction permit was obtained. If it was, it is okay to close down the sidewalk and the street. Usually this also requires signage stating the sidewalk is closed and alerting pedestrians they should cross to avoid the closure.

Edited October 2, 20231 yr by Mov2Ohio

On 10/1/2023 at 6:38 PM, Mov2Ohio said:

 

 

We can look up if sn Obstruction permit was obtained. If it was, it is okay to close down the sidewalk and the street. Usually this also requires signage stating the sidewalk is closed and alerting pedestrians they should cross to avoid the closure.

Getting into the bureaucratic weeds here a bit, but; closing sidewalks or crosswalks requires an alternate route to be established per the OMUTCD (Which is what the City permit says to follow).

And that makes it State Law, although I find it rarely if ever enforced unfortunately.

Edited October 4, 20231 yr by Enginerd

I'm not going to do an article on this, but I just thought this was a really cool new ADU planed for the intersection of two alleys (West 33rd and Wheat Court) in Ohio City. It's a two-bedroom home over a four-car garage and poolhouse.

 

15 minutes ago, KJP said:

I'm not going to do an article on this, but I just thought this was a really cool new ADU planed for the intersection of two alleys (West 33rd and Wheat Court) in Ohio City. It's a two-bedroom home over a four-car garage and poolhouse.

 

That sits behind my favorite house in the city... 

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4876609,-81.7130433,3a,75y,332.83h,89.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skU_jviuE3uiG8tBXKm-h6g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Wow that is an odd structure. One side looks like not much while the other is cool as hell.

1 hour ago, YABO713 said:

That sits behind my favorite house in the city... 

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4876609,-81.7130433,3a,75y,332.83h,89.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skU_jviuE3uiG8tBXKm-h6g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Just curious, why is that your favorite house? Is it yours or something? TBH, its not blowing my skirt up.

14 minutes ago, Ineffable_Matt said:

Just curious, why is that your favorite house? Is it yours or something? TBH, its not blowing my skirt up.

Not to mention it's a building built recently in a style that was never in the historic district before. A nice attempt, but faux at best.

I'm with @YABO713. I love Federalist-style homes, original or not. That side porch is great. If I had one critique of the ADU, it's the small windows overlooking the courtyard/pool. Why so small? Make 'em as big as the windows overlooking Wheat.

On 9/29/2023 at 5:44 PM, Enginerd said:

From what I can see it is a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act…

A local company makes an ADA-complaint pedestrian walkway that can be installed around work zones....

https://pss-innovations.com/safety-products/ramps-platforms

1 hour ago, noname said:

Not to mention it's a building built recently in a style that was never in the historic district before. A nice attempt, but faux at best.

 

I don't think you're correct: https://maps.app.goo.gl/M3x6UYLwN6Jwj1C59 

4 hours ago, Ineffable_Matt said:

Just curious, why is that your favorite house? Is it yours or something? TBH, its not blowing my skirt up.

 

I love the Federalist style. It's not mine, but I walk the pup by it every morning. The side porch is thoughtful, and I love the brickwork. 

 

My wife and I always say it's the one house in Ohio City we'd break the bank for if it ever came on the market (though that analysis may change with a full home in our backyard) lol. 

2 hours ago, grayfields said:

 

I don't think you're correct: https://maps.app.goo.gl/M3x6UYLwN6Jwj1C59 

HA! I was literally just going to pull up this pic and make this exact comment. 

 

There are Federalist homes all through Ohio City - and a couple in extreme disarray south of Lorain as well. 

 

I get the point though, the style really only exists in antebellum homes, which limits you to 4-5 blocks in OC

 

2 hours ago, YABO713 said:

HA! I was literally just going to pull up this pic and make this exact comment. 

 

There are Federalist homes all through Ohio City - and a couple in extreme disarray south of Lorain as well. 

 

I get the point though, the style really only exists in antebellum homes, which limits you to 4-5 blocks in OC

 

Any idea where the ones South of Lorain are??

If this new house has any variances someone should sue the City if they grant them as the owner appears to be working with architect and local obstructionist David Ellison.  Ellison is actively suing the city because they granted a parking variance related to the rehab of the funeral home east of W41st.

Edited October 6, 20231 yr by w28th

2 minutes ago, w28th said:

If this new house has any variances someone should sue the City if they grant them as the owner appears to be working with architect and local obstructionist David Ellison.  Ellison is actively suing the city because they granted a parking variance related to the rehab of the funeral home west of W41st.

So ridiculous… I wish I was petty enough to post this rendering on the OHC Facebook group and say it’s too tall and doesn’t fit the historical context of the neighborhood. He’s against almost every development in his little corner of Lorain. There is so much parking on Lorain. 

27 minutes ago, w28th said:

If this new house has any variances someone should sue the City if they grant them as the owner appears to be working with architect and local obstructionist David Ellison.  Ellison is actively suing the city because they granted a parking variance related to the rehab of the funeral home west of W41st.

Looks like he lost this appeal (he was stupidly proceeding pro se).  In fact he is a two time loser when it comes to appealing Board of Zoning Appeals decisions.  Also lost a case in 2018, that time with legal counsel.

Edited October 6, 20231 yr by Htsguy

 

Seeds & Sprouts 33 – Sankofa Village Phase 4 coming, West 48th gets more townhomes, So might Midtown, Intro adding salon
By Ken Prendergast / October 5, 2023

 

Just off West 48th getting more townhomes

 

A wide block between West 48th and West 50th streets and a growing desire for housing between Cleveland’s Ohio City and Gordon Square neighborhoods means developers are trying squeeze in new townhomes wherever the opportunity exists. And a new real estate opportunity emerged today that could bring even more townhouses behind existing, historic homes.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2023/10/05/seeds-sprouts-33-sankofa-village-phase-4-coming-west-48th-gets-more-townhomes-so-might-midtown-intro-adding-salon/

 

15 hours ago, w28th said:

If this new house has any variances someone should sue the City if they grant them as the owner appears to be working with architect and local obstructionist David Ellison.  Ellison is actively suing the city because they granted a parking variance related to the rehab of the funeral home east of W41st.

Bestie, hate to be the one to tell you this, but Ellison designed that house. Additionally, one of the owners/residents of that house, with a connection to a certain block club and community development office, have tried their best to obstruct other developments in the city. 

59 minutes ago, andrew0816 said:

Bestie, hate to be the one to tell you this, but Ellison designed that house. Additionally, one of the owners/residents of that house, with a connection to a certain block club and community development office, have tried their best to obstruct other developments in the city. 

I think w28th is saying that the ADU unit should have some vigilante obstructionism because it's designed by Ellison. A bit of eye for an eye hostility.

UCS bringing a nice little addition to their outdoor sports facilities to their campus. 
 

 

 

1 hour ago, dastler said:

I think w28th is saying that the ADU unit should have some vigilante obstructionism because it's designed by Ellison. A bit of eye for an eye hostility.

Oh yeah, for sure, but thought it relevant to mention he also designed the main house and that the residents of said house are also obstructionists, so some karmic justice is needed all around.

On 10/6/2023 at 3:01 PM, andrew0816 said:

Oh yeah, for sure, but thought it relevant to mention he also designed the main house and that the residents of said house are also obstructionists, so some karmic justice is needed all around.

Are they really?? That surprises me

13 hours ago, YABO713 said:

Are they really?? That surprises me

Yeah, one of the residents with the aforementioned connections to neighborhood groups has spoken out against the Clinton West Apartments, the Vine Ct townhouses, and the condos on W28th and Clinton (I was an intern with city planning when these projects initially started so I saw him speak against them). He also had some interesting critiques on a development project I worked on years ago on Lorain & 44th that we did not end up pursuing, but someone else did (initial design iterations were "too modern" later designs were "faux historic").

Saw this and thought of this thread