It sure would be nice if we could focus redevelopment on the stretch of Lorain between W.25th and W.41st. 41st, due to its highway exit, is a gateway the sets the tone for entire area in the eyes of commuters. The new homes and Orchard School fence did a great job of improving 41st, but Lorain leaves much to be desired.

Please patronize the many good businesses in the OC:

 

 

From the OCNW listserve....

 

2) Fulton Foods, on the NW corner of Woodbine and Fulton, is trying to attract

residents of this community with an improved selection of import and craft

brews, as well as with a nice Australian wine selection and a full selection of

other misc. convenience store items. Their expanded import and craft beer

selection includes:

  · Great Lakes Brewery: Dortmunder, Burning River, Elliot Ness, Holy Moses

    and Blackout Stout, as well as Sierra Nevada

  · Belgian Beer: Stella Artois and Hoegaarden

  · Guiness Stout, Harp, Bass Ale and Red Stripe

  · A full array of Mexican and Canadian beers, and much more!

Stop in to see owners Khaldoun and Melissa, and congratulate Khaldoun for his

recent US citizenship (he is VERY proud to be a citizen). They would love to

move away from the malt liquor and cheap wine products, but need the

neighborhood to patronize their quality products. Ask them to show you their

drawer full of confiscated fake ID's, which they continue to confiscate when

underage buyers attempt to purchase alcohol. They also will not allow legal

adults to purchase beer for minors either, and follow any suspicious sale out of

the store to confiscate the beer if it is being handed off to a minor. They are

trying to be good neighbors, and would appreciate our support. Stop in at least

for a cup of fresh coffee, and let them know they are doing the right thing in

carrying their quality selection of beer and wine.

It sure would be nice if we could focus redevelopment on the stretch of Lorain between W.25th and W.41st. 41st, due to its highway exit, is a gateway the sets the tone for entire area in the eyes of commuters. The new homes and Orchard School fence did a great job of improving 41st, but Lorain leaves much to be desired.

 

Funny you should mention that.

 

This is exactly what's going on, as Detroit Shoreway and OCNW are both focused in on Lorain now. The building I'm talking about is the space at 4309, where the Cleveland Pit was operating and Speak In Tongues before that. So you'll have the GBC on 35th, Nick's Diner & Ellison's project on 41st, Morrison Dance at 42nd, this project on 43rd, and then the Urban school/eco village area. Plus, as you mentioned the new townhomes on Orchard (with more on the way from what I've heard). I also think there is new construction being planned on the north side between 45th and 50th, may be it's already going on?

 

I think linking west 25th and Lorain is tough because as great as Ignatius is, it acts as a natural barrier. I'd think the better bet is building off the momentum set up by the GBC building on the corner of Fultan and Lorain and trying to link it up with the Urban School. Both are green buildings, plus you have Eco Village a little further up. Stay with a green focus, historic neighborhood and there's a chance to get it to work.

regarding the Fulton foods-hey that is great. I am going to go by this week. Unless I missed it on my ride by this weekend, I think they do need to change the storefront a little-nothing fancy, but something to let the neighbors know it is different. Another idea would be to have the distributor host a Fri after work or Saturday afternoon beer tasting. If property promoted (heck it could be a nice sign out on the sidewalk) it could really enable people to get to know the place

The problem with Fulton Foods is the small industrial/warehouse operation that is attached to it. Its just behind it on the Woodbine side. The place is usually a mess.

 

I forgot about this place as I usually get all my Great Lakes from Dave's. I should start to give some of my business to FF.

Here's a picture of the Lorain building:

 

^Oh well. I was hoping that it would be in a building that was all shuttered up.

^Oh well. I was hoping that it would be in a building that was all shuttered up.

 

jeez, tough crowd!

 

There are a few buildings that have gone through the store front program already on the stretch between Fulton and W 50th. The problem is getting actual paying tenants who have more to offer than a check cashing service or the like. If the 4309 project can help add to the area via the businesses it's attracted into the space, those "shuttered up" buildings become more enticing.

 

I should also mention that the building needs a tear off and replacement of the roof, and has a unique ballroom on the 3rd floor that was once the Hungarian singing hall. The project is calling for that to be restored.

You mean the kids that go to the Pit are not "actual paying tenants?

i always wondered what is the "Pit"??

post speakintongues, the pit turned the first floor into heavy metal practice spaces.  there was a lovely old bar on the first floor, and a stage.  I have not been inside since too see it.  the ballroom on the third floor was painted completely black the last time I was up there.  there are also a few apartments, of the more rustic variety.  and the left hand bottom floor always had cafe potential which was never utilized.  I imagine that would be the spot, but I'm no expert.  hopefully some of the original character of the building is salvageable.  all signs point to maybe, after everything that place has been through.  as of a few years back, the fixtures still had old hungarian crests and stuff. 

The Pit were the owners of the building. They are in the process of finding a new venue. the operators are pretty cool people. "Good eggs" is what my friend would say. They did a lot of the heavy lifting, as apparently the speakintongues people left the building's innards in pretty awful shape.

 

The ornate tin ceiling on the 1st floor has some issues, but we (if it wasn't obvious, I'm part of the development team on this) plan on having it restored, though we may look to use some of the substitute materials available.

 

The ballroom on the 3rd floor will be restored as well. (where the food society will convene)

 

The first floor will be dictated more by a tenant's use, but currently a cafe on one side and an art gallery on the other side is in the works.

 

We're also looking at solar pretty seriously because the back of the building and roof are all south facing.

 

As for paying tenants, I think many of the places that operate out of the storefronts up and down Lorain Ave pay utilities and maybe taxes on the space while maintaining it themselves...

awesome...good luck with that....im a union carpenter myself if there's any assistance you may need...ive worked on a few restoration projects and finish work is my specialty. jus throwing it out there. :wink:

awesome...good luck with that....im a union carpenter myself if there's any assistance you may need...ive worked on a few restoration projects and finish work is my specialty. jus throwing it out there. :wink:

 

good info.....I'm always do cosmetic changes/remodeling in my crib, I usually do stuff myself (its my therapy and I LOVE powertools) but its nice to know theres a pro among us!

lol...thanks MTS

The Clinton Courts project in the OC has been posted on PURE's website.

 

Check it out: www.progressiveurban.com

 

I also found out that two townhomes will be built just across the street (next winter) from this 5-unit development.  Things continue to look good for Clinton Ave.

Isn't two townhomes a duplex?

Isn't two townhomes a duplex?

 

I've always considered duplexes to be rentals. The developer describes them as for-sale rowhouses (though they aren't really designed as of yet).

OK, I wasn't being serious.

ok, sorry I didn't pick up on the tone of voice. :)

Sorry that didn't come through.  You should really just assume that there's a little of this: :wink: in every one of my posts.  And maybe a little of this  :evil:.  And occasionally, a little :drunk:, but not that often.  :wink:

X,

 

^maybe I didn't pick up on it because I was on my :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: rd dortmunder?

lightweight.

:banger:

www.3000bridge.com/

^Nice!  Not a bad website for a developer. 

 

I wonder what the price points are.

Wow - views of the downtown skyline... AND Great Lakes Brewing?!? Mind you, I adore Tremont but...  :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

 

 

 

Nice building and views, Ohio City is kicking ass.  It appears the mid 40s is the only real value as all the rehabs and new developments have taken up almost every inch of space.

cool pics. where are you?? the west Va building or the one just down the street?

3000 Bridge --is that the old West Side Community House?

oh yeah. it sure is

I think I like this view the best...

 

 

Although this one reminds me a bit of Boston...

 

 

Yet this one is a pretty cool neighborhood shot...

 

 

But this is almost European, with St. Iggy's in the foreground...

 

 

Ah, hell. Where do I sign up!!

3000 Bridge looks like a nice project.  btw, what's the status of Jay Lofts these days?

Jay Lofts-- those crazy cats. The lady said that they are going to open a sales office in May. They continue to have a staffer at an informational table every Saturday morning outside (or inside) Bier Markt.

 

Mayday, so is 3000 Bridge going forward?? Haven't heard about it in a long while.

^Don't ask me, I just checked out the site that Map Boy posted, saw the views of both downtown and the holiest of beer sites and got all excited :-D

"A modest fitness center will be on the lower (office) level."

 

'Twould be nice if they offered memberships to non-residents. Ohio City really needs a gym.

^thanks for the update... I like 3000 Bridge's website; it's pretty slick... It tweak it just a tad... in the "Location" link, I'd go with shopping at Tower City rather than "Terminal Tower", a bit dated, don't you think?.... Also, I'm surprised (unless I missed it) there was no mention of being 2 blocks from Dave's Supermarket... these are minor.

 

It appears from the site plan that the in-fill, attached building will actually be larger and taller than the existing WSC.  More high-density residential development in an already great nabe?  ... can't kick about that.

I checked out the "your neighborhood" page on 3000Bridge site. One of the neighborhood offerings is "St. Ignatius soccer". Now, I realize that the Wildcats did win a national title in 2005, but I doubt that this will be one of the draws to the area.

 

 

^They don't even play their games at Iggy, do they?

They put in a synthetic surface there a few years ago so that they can play football, soccer and lacrosse on it. Only the varsity football team has to play at someone else's stadium.

I'd love to see a nice stadium south of Lorain for Ignatius football.  I think that could help clean up a span of Lorain a bit and also might charge some redevelopment there.  Coarse you remember back in the early 90's late 80's that the residents put up a big stink about Iggy tearing houses down in there.  Might never happen, but I could hope so.  

Ignatius will never do it. It would cost way too much (especially with the property values having risen in the past two decades). Also, Iggy games can attract up to 12,000 spectators and Ignatius would have to provide a lot of parking.

 

While the school has excellent sports teams, the administration wants to invest its resources in academic areas.

They are building a $10,000,000 performing arts center on the south side of Lorain at "W30th."  Nothing to rave about architecturally.

They are building a $10,000,000 performing arts center on the south side of Lorain at "W30th."  Nothing to rave about architecturally.

 

They are about to launch a large capital campaign. I'm pretty sure that they already have enough money to build the performing arts center (which is badly needed).

 

Architecturally speaking, anything that they build will always give deference to the Main Building. I remember going to the tip top of the tower when I was a student there. If you look near the top of the tower, you'll see some small circular windows. There are these century old wooden ladders that take you up there with "'Joe Smith', class of '10" carved all over the place.  The school itself has been around since 1886.

re: St. Ignatious, it doesn't look like they gave much archetectual deference when viewed from the east. Those clunky boxlike buildings by the athletic field look way out of place up against their beautiful main building.

It'd be interesting to know more about this performing arts center and capital campaign.  It would seem that this could have a major impact on Ohio City.

re: St. Ignatious, it doesn't look like they gave much archetectual deference when viewed from the east. Those clunky boxlike buildings by the athletic field look way out of place up against their beautiful main building.

 

Those are gyms. One was built in the late 50s and the other was built in 1992. For being a private school with limited funding, I think that they've done a very good job with their campus.

re: St. Ignatious, it doesn't look like they gave much archetectual deference when viewed from the east. Those clunky boxlike buildings by the athletic field look way out of place up against their beautiful main building.

The main building was never finished as originally envisioned -- the tower was to have been at the center of two identical wings, the never built mirror image of the north wing would have fronted on Lorain.

I've heard the same and always wondered why they built it to front (at the time) a residential street. You'd think it would front Lorain. Anyways, its a gorgeous building. I loved watching Key Tower going up from my desk in English class back in '89.

I've heard the same and always wondered why they built it to front (at the time) a residential street. You'd think it would front Lorain. Anyways, its a gorgeous building. I loved watching Key Tower going up from my desk in English class back in '89.

 

'89?    youngsters (sigh)