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10 hours ago, dwolfi01 said:

FYI I was driving by the other day (sorry I couldn't get a pic) of the old Saucy Brew Garden fencing that had a new sign on the fence. All it said was a logo for TurnDev and had this URL on it: https://www.turndev.com/

 

Not sure how new that sign is but I walk to Banana Blossom like at least once every few weeks (delicious Thai food) and this is the first time I saw it. I know there were plans announced a while ago about development here of a pretty sizable apartment project. Not sure if maybe things are still moving with the development. Would be welcoming news to get another empty lot filled sooner rather than later

 

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Interesting.  I really want this development to move forward (Vibrator) but I not sure they even have finally approval from PC (or was it Landmarks).  I may be wrong.  They have been before one of the Boards a long time ago but I think it was a conceptual presentation.

The sign is new but it's been up for at least a week. I took a photo of it on Aug. 5.

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

The agenda for the Ohio City Community meeting on August 20th states that project updates for an apartment building at 2032 W 26th street and hotel at 1960 W 26th Street will be there. I wasn't aware of the apartment building but I have been looking forward to hearing more and hopefully seeing renderings of the hotel.

Dan Whalen presented the concept for a hotel on the West 26th street parking lot at my block club last night.  He showed renderings for an 8 story structure that's just shy of 90 ft. He said it will include about 130 rooms (priced below $250 per),2 restaurants (1 interior,1 rooftop), a bar, a rooftop pool and about 80 underground parking spots. Something I found interesting was that the car entrance to the hotel would actually be on West 28th street leaving the ability for the hotel frontage on West 26th as well as Lorain Ave to be completely streetscaped.  Overall reaction from the block club was very good aside from the usual parking concerns.

^any photos or place we can see the renderings?

17 minutes ago, Geowizical said:

^any photos or place we can see the renderings?

Dan had them on his personal computer so unfortunately I could not get my hands on the renderings.

56 minutes ago, TDi said:

Dan Whalen presented the concept for a hotel on the West 26th street parking lot at my block club last night.  He showed renderings for an 8 story structure that's just shy of 90 ft. He said it will include about 130 rooms (priced below $250 per),2 restaurants (1 interior,1 rooftop), a bar, a rooftop pool and about 80 underground parking spots. Something I found interesting was that the car entrance to the hotel would actually be on West 28th street leaving the ability for the hotel frontage on West 26th as well as Lorain Ave to be completely streetscaped.  Overall reaction from the block club was very good aside from the usual parking concerns.

Sounds like a fantastic development, if only he could do bridegeworks as well

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55 minutes ago, TDi said:

Dan Whalen presented the concept for a hotel on the West 26th street parking lot at my block club last night.  He showed renderings for an 8 story structure that's just shy of 90 ft. He said it will include about 130 rooms (priced below $250 per),2 restaurants (1 interior,1 rooftop), a bar, a rooftop pool and about 80 underground parking spots. Something I found interesting was that the car entrance to the hotel would actually be on West 28th street leaving the ability for the hotel frontage on West 26th as well as Lorain Ave to be completely streetscaped.  Overall reaction from the block club was very good aside from the usual parking concerns.

This sounds perfect. Amazing what kind of details are considered when a developer lives in and also cares about the community. 

Which parking lot is this proposed to be on? 

32 minutes ago, TDi said:

Dan had them on his personal computer so unfortunately I could not get my hands on the renderings.

 

Well you technically could have. 

I should have an article later today or early tomorrow with renders.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

1 hour ago, TDi said:

Dan Whalen presented the concept for a hotel on the West 26th street parking lot at my block club last night.  He showed renderings for an 8 story structure that's just shy of 90 ft. He said it will include about 130 rooms (priced below $250 per),2 restaurants (1 interior,1 rooftop), a bar, a rooftop pool and about 80 underground parking spots. Something I found interesting was that the car entrance to the hotel would actually be on West 28th street leaving the ability for the hotel frontage on West 26th as well as Lorain Ave to be completely streetscaped.  Overall reaction from the block club was very good aside from the usual parking concerns.

 

Overall reaction from the block club was very good....

 

 

Words I never thought I'd hear spoken 

1 hour ago, TDi said:

Dan Whalen presented the concept for a hotel on the West 26th street parking lot at my block club last night.  He showed renderings for an 8 story structure that's just shy of 90 ft.

 

Did Whalen say if it would be mass timber or conventional construction?

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17 minutes ago, mrclifton88 said:

Which parking lot is this proposed to be on? 

I think it's this one: image.png.303f794a955a97c6341c8cf6f3023b0f.png

10 minutes ago, Geowizical said:

I think it's this one: image.png.303f794a955a97c6341c8cf6f3023b0f.png

Yes that's the one but it also includes all the area by Mclean Ct to west 28th street which is where they proposed the car entrance to be.

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7 minutes ago, Dougal said:

 

Did Whalen say if it would be mass timber or conventional construction?

It looked like conventional construction

The above reminds me, with traffic flowing out of w28th how would this interact with the future st igs build of their stadium didn’t it take over this part of w28th? 

11 minutes ago, BoomerangCleRes said:

The above reminds me, with traffic flowing out of w28th how would this interact with the future st igs build of their stadium didn’t it take over this part of w28th? 

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING****

 

The rights Ignatius has do not extend South beyond GLBC property. So, nothing should change from that standpoint. Any interaction with the street would have to stop at McLean, though - which practically speaking is the 10 yard line and not a huge deal. 

Great spot for a OC (boutique?) hotel. Every time l park across from the Ignatius field and walk through that  parking lot l think what a great spot for a little hotel or a 5-6 story condo building. I say that because it T-bones into Market Ave. which is one of the great little streets in Cleveland. Right now when you leave Market Ave. you're looking at a non-discript parking lot. Quite a visual comedown from the ambiance of Market Ave. But with this new addition the whole becomes greater than the parts which should be the intent of every new urban development. More bang for your buck. Now we just need a design that compliments its surroundings which Whalen is capable of.

I am curious.  Does Whalen already own the property or have an option on it?  I was under the impression that nothing was/could be done on this lot until Great Lakes decides what it is going to do or where it would end up.

He said he is in partnership with OCI on the lot but I am not sure how that ownership structure works. He also mentioned that the development was being done in a way that would not affect GLBC truck traffic.

1 minute ago, Ineffable_Matt said:

Nice place! Did you guys rehab it yourselves?

Yep - bought it in 2018 when the former owner ran out of money like 40 days into the flip. The roof was done when we got it, but just about everything else was us. 

Beautiful home Yabo! I bet you have an offer by Monday.

Gorgeous house! Nice job!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

1 minute ago, marty15 said:

Beautiful home Yabo! I bet you have an offer by Monday.

Gahhh I hope so. Thanks! 

2 minutes ago, marty15 said:

Beautiful home Yabo! I bet you have an offer by Monday.

 

What's really driving me crazy is that a couple that already saw it noted the property next door being empty - it's an out of state investor that's been working on it on and off for over 3 years. So that's frustrating. 

A few things:

 

1. This is a permitted post and in an appropriate thread. With that, Seller and Buyer shall and do hereby agree to indemnify and hold the Admins and Owners of UrbanOhio harmless for any damages resulting from any materially inaccurate or misleading express representation or warranty of Seller hereunder or under a Seller property disclosure document.

 

2. Very nice job, a little jealous of the counter space in the kitchen, tbh 😁

 

3. Fwiw, a neighbor's home that was flipped (and not up to similar standards) recently sold for $10K above asking. In this market 🤞

3 minutes ago, MayDay said:

A few things:

 

1. This is a permitted post and in an appropriate thread. With that, Seller and Buyer shall and do hereby agree to indemnify and hold the Admins and Owners of UrbanOhio harmless for any damages resulting from any materially inaccurate or misleading express representation or warranty of Seller hereunder or under a Seller property disclosure document.

 

2. Very nice job, a little jealous of the counter space in the kitchen, tbh 😁

 

3. Fwiw, a neighbor's home that was flipped (and not up to similar standards) recently sold for $10K above asking. In this market 🤞

 

Hahahaha thanks @MayDay - I really hope so. I normally don't stress about things but this one has me uneasy! 

Gorgeous house @YABO713! I see you have children, are you heading to the suburbs? I know you must be dying to be my neighbor and live modestly in high society Parma 🤣 

Also, love the crystal decanters. I make sure mine is never dry. Cheers

20 minutes ago, GREGinPARMA said:

Gorgeous house @YABO713! I see you have children, are you heading to the suburbs? I know you must be dying to be my neighbor and live modestly in high society Parma 🤣 

Also, love the crystal decanters. I make sure mine is never dry. Cheers

Grew up in Parma Heights, and yes we're moving to Broadview Heights, very bittersweet. 

Guys, you've got to be careful with these crystal decanters! I hope there is no lead in them!

As promised....

 

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Ohio City hotel development revealed
By Ken Prendergast / August 16, 2024

 

A successful business finds an unmet need in a market and fills it. According to Places Development founder and Managing Principal Dan Whalen, the lack of a hotel west of Downtown Cleveland to near Hopkins International Airport is just such a gap in the market. To fill that void, he is submitting plans for a new, eight-story boutique hotel at 1960 W. 26th St. in the Ohio City neighborhood.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2024/08/16/ohio-city-hotel-development-revealed/

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

The article mentions that this is just a preliminary design but l already love it. Don't change anything. Hurry up and build it before everybody puts their two cents in and ruins it or worse, "market forces" prevent it from getting built at all.

^ LOL, yeah, Bridgeworks, is it really that hard?

as a dan whalen led project i would guess the looks of it are the last thing to worry about, because we know it will be quality. so lets just fret about it actually getting built instead. 😂

I forgot to originally say in the article that, unlike Intro, the hotel will not be a mass-timber building. 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I’m interested to see details on the hotel brand.  I’d argue that location can support something upscale. I see plenty of people choosing it over downtown. 
 

Is Dan planning on designing his own restaurant concepts? I respect the heck out of what he did at Intro but the neighborhood is hurting for some chef-driven spots. 

12 hours ago, mrnyc said:

as a dan whalen led project i would guess the looks of it are the last thing to worry about, because we know it will be quality. so lets just fret about it actually getting built instead. 😂

 

Yeah...just please no dark-tinted windows at street level.  

11 hours ago, CLEmuppet said:

I’m interested to see details on the hotel brand.  I’d argue that location can support something upscale. I see plenty of people choosing it over downtown. 
 

Is Dan planning on designing his own restaurant concepts? I respect the heck out of what he did at Intro but the neighborhood is hurting for some chef-driven spots. 

I would agree on upscale,but still affordable.   Thinking about this project I'd like to see a concept like Hotel Covington across the river from Cincinnati. 

 

https://hotelcovington.com

On 8/16/2024 at 4:10 PM, KJP said:

As promised....

 

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Ohio City hotel development revealed
By Ken Prendergast / August 16, 2024

 

A successful business finds an unmet need in a market and fills it. According to Places Development founder and Managing Principal Dan Whalen, the lack of a hotel west of Downtown Cleveland to near Hopkins International Airport is just such a gap in the market. To fill that void, he is submitting plans for a new, eight-story boutique hotel at 1960 W. 26th St. in the Ohio City neighborhood.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2024/08/16/ohio-city-hotel-development-revealed/

Seeing that this is the same sized hotel as the one that would be in Bridgeworks and being in the same vicinity as it, I wouldn't be surprised if the same Hotel brand chose to move to this project.

Love the thought of overlooking the heart of Ohio City from Walen's rooftop restaurant / bar, with downtown Cleveland in the background. 

I watched a fair amount of the Ohio city community meeting last night online.  If someone in the audience said the word parking one more time I thought my head would explode. Although to be fair, one of the four presentations concerned the new parking meter rollout in Ohio city.

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2 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

I watched a fair amount of the Ohio city community meeting last night online.  If someone in the audience said the word parking one more time I thought my head was going to explode. Although to be fair, one of the four presentations concerned the new parking meter rollout in Ohio city.


If you haven't watched others, they're just about the same. It's either "parking" or "too tall"/"too big".

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3 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

I watched a fair amount of the Ohio city community meeting last night online.  If someone in the audience said the word parking one more time I thought my head would explode. Although to be fair, one of the four presentations concerned the new parking meter rollout in Ohio city.

 

a: "Let's make this community accessible to more people!!!" 

 

b: "Okay, great - here's a building design allowing hundreds of people to visit/stay in Ohio City's central business district."

 

a: "...HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE CARS!?!?!"

45 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

I watched a fair amount of the Ohio city community meeting last night online.  If someone in the audience said the word parking one more time I thought my head would explode. Although to be fair, one of the four presentations concerned the new parking meter rollout in Ohio city.

Haha I was also watching. It wasn't as bad as I expected, but there were 2 people who clearly cared wayyyyy more than the others. And the hotel, which will bring hundreds of people per week who will likely spend money at stores and restaurants in the neighborhood every day of their stay. That will bring their businesses more money than people just parking to eat dinner at Great Lakes and then leave. 

 

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I thought this was a great slide to get their point across. The city needs to post that triangle on social media to explain that needing to charge a whopping 50 cents per hour is actually a good thing. It means the neighborhood has more demand than it has the capacity for. This may help deter the people who parking in Ohio City for free for events Downtown and never even go to one of the businesses, but take a parking spot from actual customers.

 

I do wish this was paired with talks of better transportation options in these high demand neighborhoods, though. I've mentioned a Tremont to Cudell streetcar before, which will never happen, but I think would do a ton for the businesses on the near Westside. It would help to alleviate the parking concerns as well. I wonder how many spaces in Tremont are taken by people from Gordon Square or Ohio City, and vice versa. Connecting Tremont, Duck Island, W25, Hingetown, Gordon Square, Battery Park/Edgewater, and Cudell neighborhoods would be huge, and probably give a boost to red line ridership and add a lot of development along Detroit. They are neighborhoods that are all close together, but aren't really connected. Few visitors are going to more than one of them when they visit, and few residents move between them as they are just far enough apart to make walking inconvenient, but close enough to make you feel dumb for driving and looking for parking. 

 

Wow, I can not comment on any topic without turning it into an essay haha.

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2 hours ago, PlanCleveland said:

Haha I was also watching. It wasn't as bad as I expected, but there were 2 people who clearly cared wayyyyy more than the others. And the hotel, which will bring hundreds of people per week who will likely spend money at stores and restaurants in the neighborhood every day of their stay. That will bring their businesses more money than people just parking to eat dinner at Great Lakes and then leave. 

 

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I thought this was a great slide to get their point across. The city needs to post that triangle on social media to explain that needing to charge a whopping 50 cents per hour is actually a good thing. It means the neighborhood has more demand than it has the capacity for. This may help deter the people who parking in Ohio City for free for events Downtown and never even go to one of the businesses, but take a parking spot from actual customers.

 

I do wish this was paired with talks of better transportation options in these high demand neighborhoods, though. I've mentioned a Tremont to Cudell streetcar before, which will never happen, but I think would do a ton for the businesses on the near Westside. It would help to alleviate the parking concerns as well. I wonder how many spaces in Tremont are taken by people from Gordon Square or Ohio City, and vice versa. Connecting Tremont, Duck Island, W25, Hingetown, Gordon Square, Battery Park/Edgewater, and Cudell neighborhoods would be huge, and probably give a boost to red line ridership and add a lot of development along Detroit. They are neighborhoods that are all close together, but aren't really connected. Few visitors are going to more than one of them when they visit, and few residents move between them as they are just far enough apart to make walking inconvenient, but close enough to make you feel dumb for driving and looking for parking. 

 

Wow, I can not comment on any topic without turning it into an essay haha.

Tbh it annoys me when people move to cities and complain when city things happen in the city that you CHOSE to move to. 

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Market District Lofts in Ohio City to expand
By Ken Prendergast / August 21, 2024

 

On most other plots of land, adding 17 homes to it would be noticeable from the street. But if a proposed expansion of the Market District Lofts in Cleveland’s Ohio City neighborhood happens, it might be the most below-the-radar residential development in the urban core since The Residences at The Guardian condominiums opened downtown. And the same developer is involved in both.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2024/08/21/market-district-lofts-in-ohio-city-to-expand/

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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