October 1, 200816 yr I just found this fish market just west of w.25 on Clark. It is called the "fish store" or something. It is retail fresh fish and they have fish platters and sandwiches to go, plus a picnic table or two out front-which I love to see as it makes for a positive street front presence. I talked to the operator who I knew from at State Fish. He said they lost a whole shipment due to a break in, but are doing OK otherwise. Hope to buy something there soon and report back. It is nice to see a healthy food retail option in the neighborhood.
October 9, 200816 yr West Side Market Honored As One Of Top Public Places Cincinnati Suburb Also Named POSTED: 1:15 pm EDT October 8, 2008 UPDATED: 1:23 pm EDT October 8, 2008 CLEVELAND -- Cleveland's West Side Market was honored Wednesday as one of the nation's top 10 great public places. The American Planning Association said the market serves as a gathering place with fresh food and engaging atmosphere, and is an anchor in the Cleveland community. The 96-year-old market offers vegetables, fruit, baked goods, fish and ethnic foods. The other public spaces honored include New York's Central Park and Mellon Square in Pittsburgh. The suburban Cincinnati village of Mariemont was listed among the nation's top 10 great neighborhoods. The village founded in the 1920s by a philanthropist is considered a model of community design. The other neighborhoods honored include downtown Salem, Mass., and Society Hill in Philadelphia. http://www.newsnet5.com/money/17661376/detail.html Here's the link to the American Planning Association's article: http://www.planning.org/greatplaces/spaces/2008/westsidemarket.htm
November 16, 200816 yr The St Ignatius Performing Arts Center is moving along quickly. This is a very large complex taking up an entire block - fronting Lorain avenue between west 30th and 32nd. this is a view from the campus commons across lorain the front of the building on lorain the back of the building
November 17, 200816 yr West Side Market Honored As One Of Top Public Places Cincinnati Suburb Also Named POSTED: 1:15 pm EDT October 8, 2008 UPDATED: 1:23 pm EDT October 8, 2008 CLEVELAND -- Cleveland's West Side Market was honored Wednesday as one of the nation's top 10 great public places. The American Planning Association said the market serves as a gathering place with fresh food and engaging atmosphere, and is an anchor in the Cleveland community. The 96-year-old market offers vegetables, fruit, baked goods, fish and ethnic foods. The other public spaces honored include New York's Central Park and Mellon Square in Pittsburgh. The suburban Cincinnati village of Mariemont was listed among the nation's top 10 great neighborhoods. The village founded in the 1920s by a philanthropist is considered a model of community design. The other neighborhoods honored include downtown Salem, Mass., and Society Hill in Philadelphia. http://www.newsnet5.com/money/17661376/detail.html Here's the link to the American Planning Association's article: http://www.planning.org/greatplaces/spaces/2008/westsidemarket.htm That's quite an honor coming from the APA, and being mentioned along with Society Hill and Central Park. I really want to check West Side Market out, if I can ever make it up to Cleveland. Is West Side Market ran by the city? (Findlay Market is, in Cincinnati).
November 17, 200816 yr That's quite an honor coming from the APA, and being mentioned along with Society Hill and Central Park. I really want to check West Side Market out, if I can ever make it up to Cleveland. Is West Side Market ran by the city? (Findlay Market is, in Cincinnati). Yes. It one of our greatest landmarks!
November 17, 200816 yr now, if only st ignatious would expand over the wendy's. Hmm...... No! It's so hard to find a Wendys around here anymore. E79 gone, W 117 rebuilding. Remember when there was one downtown? I understand the preference for unique local restaurants, and for cuisine that isn't fast food. But sometimes you don't want to deal with a server. Sometimes you want to pump your own ketchup.
November 17, 200816 yr Boys, there is no need to go around mispelling the name of the city's best academic institution. It is St. Ignatius.
November 17, 200816 yr That's how an Iggy grad spells "St. Edward." (I'm not a grad of either school, but I do like trying to start some shit) :-D "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 17, 200816 yr That's how an Iggy grad spells "St. Edward." (I'm not a grad of either school, but I do like trying to start some sh!t) ;D ..................and all this time I thought it was spelled Benedictine? :?
December 4, 200816 yr i've been hearing from some friends who exercise at fit (on bridge) that the owner is looking at the old zenn salon space. can anyone confirm?
December 4, 200816 yr ^I haven't heard anything about that. I have heard that a developer is getting closer to renovating the old CMHA office building on W.28th and Church into apartments and room for a charter school on the first floor. I guess this would be part of the Exhibit Builders project that is on W.25th. That would be a rather large breath of fresh air for this portion of the neighborhood. According to the auditor's site, "West 25th Lofts" bought the CMHA building last month. If they weren't playing on extending the project to west 25th, they why would they select that name??
December 4, 200816 yr I know that the Developer was pitching his project around to some of the Banks in town. Unfortunately I know we had to pass b/c of the current market and inherit risk with doing projects with such a complicated capital structure (tax credits on top of tax credits, etc). Unless things have changed (and it has been a few months) Mosaica Charter School is to move into the portion you speak of. Plans called for apartments and historic renovation for the 25th section. The artist renderings of what the building will retun to - was pretty amazing given what it currently looks like. The old residences on the 2nd floor are surprisingly still in tack with beautiful woodwork and fireplaces throughout.
December 10, 200816 yr From the BZA: 2012 West 25th Street - United Bank Building United Twenty-Fifth Building LLC, owner, appeals for a change of use from office to office and apartments a 9-story building located on a 118.17’ x 239.96’ parcel in a General Retail Business District at 2012 West 25th Street; contrary to Section 355.04, a maximum lot overage area of 126,617 square feet is proposed and 42,480 square feet is permitted; and contrary to Section 357.04(a) no front yard is proposed and 30 feet is required; and under Section 357.08(b)(2) a 20 foot rear yard is required where none is proposed; and all accessory off-street parking spaces shall be provided with wheel or bumper guards, as stated in Section 349.07(b) of the Codified Ordinances. (Filed 12-2-08) clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
December 10, 200816 yr i always loved that building -- its a perfect building to do mixed office/residentrial in!
December 11, 200816 yr the exterior of the building has had some significant cleanup too. Stuff is going on in the inside already. I really should have snapped some pics of my 9th floor office before I left. The views are truly beautiful up there- market square, the lake, market, downtown, St. Ignatius, church steeples, Lorain av ....and the sounds: the sirens, the street fighting, boat horns, the marching band revving up for the Friday night game. Can't forget the brewery and market smells taunting me at my desk. Oh yes working downtown is so much more fun :cry:
January 9, 200916 yr Failing Cuyahoga River hillside is highlighted in bold.... http://www.cleveland.com/westsidesun/news/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1231445328181590.xml&coll=4 Cleveland submits wish list of projects for federal funds Thursday, January 08, 2009 By Ken Prendergast [email protected] West Side Sun News Among $1.56 billion worth of infrastructure projects submitted by the city for federal economic stimulus funds, Mayor Frank Jackson singled out four projects as his highest priorities. ...... Jackson submitted his 66-project list Dec. 22 to President-elect Barack Obama, Gov. Ted Strickland and Ohio's Congressional Delegation. In it, he highlighted these four projects: + $350 million for construction of a new westbound Innerbelt-Central Viaduct (Interstate 90) bridge over the Cuyahoga River valley. + $50 million for repair of the slumping Riverbed Road hillside in Ohio City which threatens to close the Cuyahoga River to shipping traffic. + $300 million for the Opportunity Corridor boulevard from Interstate 490 to University Circle. + $30 million for rebuilding the West Shoreway (state Route 2) between West 25th Street and Clifton Boulevard. "The first two projects are very real public safety threats," Jackson wrote in his letter to Obama. "We seek action now to avoid tragedies such as the bridge collapse in Minneapolis." He added that the latter two projects would score high on at least three of the Ohio Department of Transportation's new criteria for grading transportation projects. Those criteria include community development, improving access to business development and improving new employment opportunities. The 10 biggest remaining infrastructure projects, in dollar terms, in the mayor's request are: + $100 million for starting passenger rail service between downtown Cleveland, Hopkins Airport, Columbus and Cincinnati. + $100 million to conduct design and engineering to complete environmental work for a statewide high-speed rail system. + $60 million for phase one of relocating the Port of Cleveland away from downtown. + $55 million divided among two requests to complete infrastructure, plazas and structured parking to restart the $500 million Flats East Bank development. + $50 million for extending Euclid Corridor-type bus rapid transit service along Buckeye Road, East 55th Street and Clifton Boulevard. + $40 million for two phases of storm sewer meter automation and upgrades citywide. + $40 million to extend the Towpath Trail from Harvard Road to Canal Basin Park downtown. + $40 million for construction of a new air traffic control tower at Hopkins International Airport. + $33 million to rehabilitate sewer lines downtown. + $30 million to upgrade several rail rapid transit stations. Numerous other projects involved improving water mains, storm sewers, bridges, streets, trails, streetscapes and other infrastructure in neighborhoods citywide. ...... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 9, 200916 yr Wow, big wish list! But I hope Cleveland gets all, if not, then most of the money its asking for!
January 11, 200916 yr all sound like great things to spend money in the effort of improving cleveland. I especially like the expanded Euclid corridor style of busses. The healthline always seemed (to me) to be the first part of a much larger system.
January 13, 200916 yr A new book store is going into the former "A Friendly Bookstore" on West 25th. It's called "Horizontal Books," whatever that implies.
January 13, 200916 yr A new book store is going into the former "A Friendly Bookstore" on West 25th. It's called "Horizontal Books," whatever that implies. It can only be an improvement over the "unfriendly", friendly bookstore that was there. Hopefully with the new one, people will regret contributing to the fundraising efforts to keep the last one open when it couldnt pay its bills.
January 13, 200916 yr and hopefully the new bookstore doesn't look like a garage sale with random piles of crap everywhere.
January 13, 200916 yr well i for one, liked that old bookstore. that had an incredible selection of vintage fiction & non fiction (and i don't even read books!) that was very fun to browse as it was nearly completely random. it was definitely a very friendly place for people to gather and don't forget about the great soul music they brought to W25 during the open air market days.... as for the new place, i'm very glad to see that it is staying a bookstore. indie bookstores must be a difficult concept to make $$ on. it appears that the name 'horizontal books' may refer to their pricing structure, which, based on their signage, looks to be deep discount. i'll be interested to visit when it opens.
January 13, 200916 yr "that was very fun to browse as it was a horrible way to run a business in the year 2008 because 1. who has time to dig through all that, 2. who needs to bother when there are sites like alibris.com and Amazon, etc.) but SURE if you got a few hours to dig through a place like that nearly completely random mess. Aside from the abrasive curmudgeon of an owner who scowled at anyone he deemed un-crunchy enough, it was definitely a very friendly place" Fixed that for you ;-) Sorry - my folks sell book and do a d@mn good job of it, and it didn't surprise me one bit when that place finally closed. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 13, 200916 yr Thank God it's coming! There are TOO many unused/misused storefronts on that street! Especially for being home to a top 10 Public Spaces location!
February 5, 200916 yr I just put this blurb on Sun's blog.... A public meeting on a proposed housing development by NRP Group will be held 6:30-8 p.m. Feb. 11 at the Urban Community School, 4909 Lorain Ave. Enter the building through the double glass doors on the north side of the courtyard parking lot. According to Patricia Zolten, chair of the Bridge-Carroll-Jay Block Club, NRP Group proposes to build 30 to 40 townhouses for rental or lease-purchase at the southwest corner of Lorain and West 47th Street. Units may be made available on an "income qualified" basis. Public input on the proposed development is encouraged. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 5, 200916 yr I am astounded that any new subsidized housing would be added to the existing concentration in Ohio City.
February 5, 200916 yr I am astounded that any new subsidized housing would be added to the existing concentration in Ohio City. Astounded in a good way or a bad way?
February 5, 200916 yr Bad. My approach to subsidized housing is that it should be as spread out as possible. This is essentially the Section 8 theory, as opposed to the earlier "let's build projects" theory. Concentrated poverty is bad for the people it concentrates and for those around them. I can't think of any showpiece neighborhood in any comparable city that has so much subsidized housing. Ohio City doesn't need more of it, Westlake does.
February 5, 200916 yr I don't know if these townhouses will be green like the Green Cottages in the EcoVillage, but they will be "income-qualified" like them..... http://www.gcbl.org/building/green-building/cleveland-ecovillage-green-cottages "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 5, 200916 yr Bad. My approach to subsidized housing is that it should be as spread out as possible. This is essentially the Section 8 theory, as opposed to the earlier "let's build projects" theory. Concentrated poverty is bad for the people it concentrates and for those around them. I can't think of any showpiece neighborhood in any comparable city that has so much subsidized housing. Ohio City doesn't need more of it, Westlake does. There are a lot of people who share your opinion in OC.
February 5, 200916 yr Bad. My approach to subsidized housing is that it should be as spread out as possible. This is essentially the Section 8 theory, as opposed to the earlier "let's build projects" theory. Concentrated poverty is bad for the people it concentrates and for those around them. I can't think of any showpiece neighborhood in any comparable city that has so much subsidized housing. Ohio City doesn't need more of it, Westlake does. There are a lot of people who share your opinion in OC. So... WTF? Does the city/county have no interest in cultivating OC as a prime area?
February 5, 200916 yr Bad. My approach to subsidized housing is that it should be as spread out as possible. This is essentially the Section 8 theory, as opposed to the earlier "let's build projects" theory. Concentrated poverty is bad for the people it concentrates and for those around them. I can't think of any showpiece neighborhood in any comparable city that has so much subsidized housing. Ohio City doesn't need more of it, Westlake does. umm just because these houses are "subsidized" doesn't mean that the target audience is poor or "less than". Someone who is renting/leasing to own wants isn't a bad risk. Having a target audience as diverse as possible is the best thing for a neighborhood. Make it exclusive has its drawbacks. Bad. My approach to subsidized housing is that it should be as spread out as possible. This is essentially the Section 8 theory, as opposed to the earlier "let's build projects" theory. Concentrated poverty is bad for the people it concentrates and for those around them. I can't think of any showpiece neighborhood in any comparable city that has so much subsidized housing. Ohio City doesn't need more of it, Westlake does. There are a lot of people who share your opinion in OC. So... WTF? Does the city/county have no interest in cultivating OC as a prime area? Will it change your opinion of the area or cause you to patronize it less?
February 5, 200916 yr Bad. My approach to subsidized housing is that it should be as spread out as possible. This is essentially the Section 8 theory, as opposed to the earlier "let's build projects" theory. Concentrated poverty is bad for the people it concentrates and for those around them. I can't think of any showpiece neighborhood in any comparable city that has so much subsidized housing. Ohio City doesn't need more of it, Westlake does. There are a lot of people who share your opinion in OC. So... WTF? Does the city/county have no interest in cultivating OC as a prime area? A private developer is behind the project.
February 5, 200916 yr Bad. My approach to subsidized housing is that it should be as spread out as possible. This is essentially the Section 8 theory, as opposed to the earlier "let's build projects" theory. Concentrated poverty is bad for the people it concentrates and for those around them. I can't think of any showpiece neighborhood in any comparable city that has so much subsidized housing. Ohio City doesn't need more of it, Westlake does. There are a lot of people who share your opinion in OC. So... WTF? Does the city/county have no interest in cultivating OC as a prime area? Will it change your opinion of the area or cause you to patronize it less? Not me, but in the aggregate I'm fairly certain it will have that effect. I'm considering OC as a semi-permanent home. This news doesn't exactly entice me. You're right though, it isn't a straight up project. But there have been some negative reports out of Tremont regarding a development that sounds similar to this one.
February 5, 200916 yr ^Completely disagree. Crime & poverty go hand in hand. As I've said before, it failed with Tremont Pointe, and it will continue to fail.
February 5, 200916 yr ^^Just because an area does not have public housing does not mean it is "exclusive."
February 5, 200916 yr Bad. My approach to subsidized housing is that it should be as spread out as possible. This is essentially the Section 8 theory, as opposed to the earlier "let's build projects" theory. Concentrated poverty is bad for the people it concentrates and for those around them. I can't think of any showpiece neighborhood in any comparable city that has so much subsidized housing. Ohio City doesn't need more of it, Westlake does. There are a lot of people who share your opinion in OC. So... WTF? Does the city/county have no interest in cultivating OC as a prime area? Will it change your opinion of the area or cause you to patronize it less? Not me, but in the aggregate I'm fairly certain it will have that effect. I'm considering OC as a semi-permanent home. This news doesn't exactly entice me. You're right though, it isn't a straight up project. But there have been some negative reports out of Tremont regarding a development that sounds similar to this one. So you're saying only those with money now should be able to live in OC? Well isn't that classist.
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