December 5, 201212 yr ^Lucky you are not the homeowner who is going to have a double lane take out window feet from your house. And the Vacant Hollywood Video is better? it is about more than any single homeowner it is about how to nurture the growth of the area and how to foster growth to the other side of Lorain.
December 5, 201212 yr I am not a resident of the neighborhood so I can only offer my view as an outsider. I feel the McDonalds will be built and probably with very minor consessions on their part. I don't like a vacant building there so the McDonald s in that respect will be a plus. But I absolutely understand the concerns of the neighborhood and believe in that fight. So once this moves forward I hope those involved will put as much effort into changing the zoning laws so they will have more ammunition for future proposal's.
December 5, 201212 yr If what KJP says is true, then protest should be directed at Cleveland Zoning instead of McDonald's. You can push each applicant to have a higher-quality design, but that doesn't address the bigger, long term picture. Do we really want to have these kind of fights all the time? Do developers? Reducing the vagueness in the geographic applications of the zoning code helps all sides with regards to expectations and desired outcomes. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 5, 201212 yr Look forward to some big news coming on Wednesday about the little neighborhood around the Transformer Station! Is this related to the county announcing bids to sell various properties, including the archives house on Franklin? I realize that's a couple of blocks south of the Transformer Station, but I guess I'm hoping for a multi-block development, not just a single building. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 5, 201212 yr ^Good call. Michelle reported in a piece a couple months back that Foran was one of the bidders. Hopefully this means they'll be redeveloping the archives complex.
December 5, 201212 yr Wasnt McNulty looking for space for a distillery? THat would be a real nice addition to the neighborhood.
December 5, 201212 yr ^Good call. Michelle reported in a piece a couple months back that Foran was one of the bidders. Hopefully this means they'll be redeveloping the archives complex. When I looked at the list again yesterday and saw Foran in there, that's what made me wonder. Could be an interesting week. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 5, 201212 yr Wasnt McNulty looking for space for a distillery? THat would be a real nice addition to the neighborhood. I believe they are buying the culinary building that's behind the WSM and next to St Emeric.
December 5, 201212 yr I believe they still are, but they (strangly) didnt claim it to be part of the distillery project. Im not sure how it stands now though.
December 5, 201212 yr ^Wasn't he also simply looking for some storage space in Ohio City? I think he just needed a building to store product and potentially expand brewing operations.
December 5, 201212 yr http://news.yahoo.com/denton-house-mcdonalds-mansion-hyde-park-ny-222400659.html timely article about a McDonalds in a landmark status building.
December 5, 201212 yr http://news.yahoo.com/denton-house-mcdonalds-mansion-hyde-park-ny-222400659.html timely article about a McDonalds in a landmark status building. The most bizarre McDonald’s locations in the world (35 HQ Photos) Read more at http://thechive.com/2012/09/25/the-most-bizarre-mcdonalds-locations-in-the-world-35-hq-photos/#PltE3FfrMzWBcoLF.99
December 6, 201212 yr sooo..was there an announcement today or what? No news. So no announcement. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 6, 201212 yr http://news.yahoo.com/denton-house-mcdonalds-mansion-hyde-park-ny-222400659.html timely article about a McDonalds in a landmark status building. The most bizarre McDonald’s locations in the world (35 HQ Photos) Read more at http://thechive.com/2012/09/25/the-most-bizarre-mcdonalds-locations-in-the-world-35-hq-photos/#PltE3FfrMzWBcoLF.99 Ha the "colonial" Independence location made the list. Hardly cutting edge--but then again, for Independence it could have been much worse. A McDonalds is a gold mine. With the right pressure from the neighborhood leaders and politicians they will spend money to make it happen. If they are going to get it might as well make it a destination.
December 6, 201212 yr They could make it look like a mini-Westside Market building. Put the arches on top of the clock tower. Make people buy their burger at one counter, then go to another for the fries, and a third for the shake.
December 6, 201212 yr They could make it look like a mini-Westside Market building. Put the arches on top of the clock tower. Make people buy their burger at one counter, then go to another for the fries, and a third for the shake. And the fourth for the pigs' feet.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 6, 201212 yr They could make it look like a mini-Westside Market building. Put the arches on top of the clock tower. Make people buy their burger at one counter, then go to another for the fries, and a third for the shake. And the fourth for the pigs' feet.... I would patronize that McDonalds for some spicy pig feet.
December 12, 201212 yr Public meeting tonight showed a LOT of resistance from residents who are against this - a number of homeowners who have been in the neighborhood for several decades spoke. Real concerns about traffic, safety for pedestrian and school-age children who use the bus stops on the corner, litter, quality of life...Also, for the person who thinks having a vacant movie store is the same as having a McD's double drive-thru outside your bedroom window: the Hollywood Video is next door to this house. It's a brick wall. Absolutely no noise or light. So yeah, I'd imagine they prefer that over "Do you want fries with that?" come from two loud speakers outside their bedroom windows. Cimperman is very much against this. Zone is not taking a side. Zone did say a number of residents near the current McD's on Detroit would be sad to see it go. That comment raised one of the best questions of the night from an older gentleman who simply said, "Why are you leaving a location where people are sad to see you leave to build in a location where no one wants you?" http://www.change.org/petitions/mcdonald-s-corporation-stop-plans-to-build-a-new-mcdonald-s-in-cleveland-s-ohio-city-neighborhood
December 12, 201212 yr I have a solution: We all team up with Cimperman to convince this franchisee to move east on Lorain to a parcel at Ontario/Carnegie. On this site a "Rock N Roll" McDonalds is erected (like this original in Chicago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_N_Roll_McDonald's). Here they can capitalize on downtown crowds with a partnership with the RHOF archives located nearby at CCC. Perhaps the "triangle parcel" there across from the Jake?
December 12, 201212 yr I have a solution: We all team up with Cimperman to convince this franchisee to move east on Lorain to a parcel at Ontario/Carnegie. On this site a "Rock N Roll" McDonalds is erected (like this original in Chicago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_N_Roll_McDonald's). Here they can capitalize on downtown crowds with a partnership with the RHOF archives located nearby at CCC. Perhaps the "triangle parcel" there across from the Jake? it would be so isolated from pedestrian and transit /that it would require a huge parking lot, to accommodate cars, plus the congestion in that area with only access from the north makes it a poor location for such a business.
December 12, 201212 yr ^^ Fantastic! That was the first thing I thought, too! But next, I thought, "Hey, that actually is a pretty cool idea." I can see it across from Progressive Field at the triangular lot, too, Cleburger.
December 12, 201212 yr I don't think that triangle lot exists anymore, right? I thought the reconfiguration of the intersection did away with it and widened the pedestrian and bike path to the East West.
December 12, 201212 yr I don't think that triangle lot exists anymore, right? I thought the reconfiguration of the intersection did away with it and widened the pedestrian and bike path to the East. Thats right, it is no longer there.
December 12, 201212 yr I don't think that triangle lot exists anymore, right? I thought the reconfiguration of the intersection did away with it and widened the pedestrian and bike path to the East. Thats right, it is no longer there. C'mon. This is Cleveland we have plenty of vacant land to make this happen. Including near that intersection. There would have to be a way to fit it. Just think of the joy from all the casino patrons on their way to the innerbelt.
December 13, 201212 yr I have a solution: We all team up with Cimperman to convince this franchisee to move east on Lorain to a parcel at Ontario/Carnegie. On this site a "Rock N Roll" McDonalds is erected (like this original in Chicago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_N_Roll_McDonald's). Here they can capitalize on downtown crowds with a partnership with the RHOF archives located nearby at CCC. Perhaps the "triangle parcel" there across from the Jake? Great idea! Clev doesn't capitalize as much as it should being the home of the RH.
December 13, 201212 yr I don't think that triangle lot exists anymore, right? I thought the reconfiguration of the intersection did away with it and widened the pedestrian and bike path to the East. Thats right, it is no longer there. C'mon. This is Cleveland we have plenty of vacant land to make this happen. Including near that intersection. There would have to be a way to fit it. Just think of the joy from all the casino patrons on their way to the innerbelt. Off topic, but why copy something know as a Chicago original to build it here??? Its a bad idea and bad branding/partnership for/with the RRHOF and city in general.
December 13, 201212 yr Yes, several. Trying to make it work in the limited space. Where? I looked through agendas on CPC's website going back through October. Can't find it through Google either. edit: Brief video shot of the presentation here (1:09 in). From what you can tell, it looks typical (bad). http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/273463/3/Neighbors-say-McDonalds-would-create-more-traffic
December 15, 201212 yr http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2012/crr12-31-2012.pdf 9:30 Ward 3 Calendar No. 12-214: 3204 Carroll Avenue Joe Cimperman 7 Notices POSTPONED TO JANUARY 7, 2013 Scott Maloney, owner, appeals to establish a 12 car parking lot on a 64’ x 59.50’ corner parcel in a B1 Two-Family District; subject to the provisions under Section 349.13© the proposed parking lot requires Board of Zoning Appeals approval and contrary to the landscaping and screening requirements under Sections 352.08-12 for a 6 feet wide frontage strip along an open off-street parking lot, 5 feet is provided along Carroll Avenue and 3.6 feet is provided along West 32nd Street, and parking shall not be located within 10 feet of any wall of a residential building or structure if such wall contains a ground floor opening designed to provide light or ventilation for such structure as stated in Section 349.05(a) in the Cleveland Codified Ordinances. (Filed 12-6-12) First postponement requested by the appellant due to conflict with travel arrangements. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 16, 201212 yr Just wanted to add that the area around the Transformer Station is starting to get good. The OC Firehouse now has a good artisan coffee shop and a flower shop, and some offices (and one apartment, apparently?) as well. The Transformer station opens in February, I think. Hopefully some of this energy migrates north to Detroit.
December 17, 201212 yr Just wanted to add that the area around the Transformer Station is starting to get good. The OC Firehouse now has a good artisan coffee shop and a flower shop, and some offices (and one apartment, apparently?) as well. The Transformer station opens in February, I think. Hopefully some of this energy migrates north to Detroit. Rising Star! Cool spot for sure. I'm loyal to Phoenix, but RS is my second favorite. To me the most exciting thing is witnessing the cool neighborhood expansion. Fun to envision that the "dead" areas could some day be filled in; a day when there are no worn and tired gaps between Flats/Tremont/OC/Shoreway/Lakewood.
December 19, 201212 yr Isn't this the old Club Envy? Looks like its going to be something else, something better....... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2012/12132012/index.php Cleveland Landmarks Commission AGENDA - December 13, 2012 Market Square Historic District 2144 West 25th Street Storefront renovation Looks like a really big cat was playing here recently.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 19, 201212 yr Club Envy is further south on 25th. I seem to recall they were going to demo it, but it's just been sitting there for months and months. I don't know what the building in the picture used to be.
December 19, 201212 yr Google the address. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 19, 201212 yr Its on 25th south of Lorain (surrounded by the Voss factory). Most recently it was a cabinet shop. The old club envy is in the same strip but two doors down.
December 20, 201212 yr Excellent--fingers crossed this project finally gets going East Ohio Building in Cleveland, other projects win state tax credits for historic preservation http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/12/east_ohio_building_in_clevelan_1.html#incart_river_default The Jay Hotel property, also called the Ohio City Post Office, on Jay Avenue in Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood. Developer Tom Gillespie plans to turn the building into eight apartments, with 20,000 square feet of retail and offices. The $3.4 million project received a $500,000 tax credit. Also The West 25th Street Lofts, a $21.5 million apartment redevelopment of a rambling, several-building complex off West 25th Street in Ohio City. Developers Rick Foran and Chris Smythe have been working for more than five years to find financing and make the project happen. A $4 million tax credit for the entire complex replaces a smaller, unused tax credit awarded several years ago, when portions of the property fell outside of a historic district and were not considered eligible.
December 20, 201212 yr This round was a nice haul for the near Westside! I don't remember seeing so many projects in one area get this many tax credit awards. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 21, 201212 yr Cleveland, in general, dominated the state -- taking eight of 23 tax credit awards statewide...... http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20121220/FREE/121229980# "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 10, 201312 yr According to MGB, construction has started at the future Mitchell's site. Finally. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1627324&l=7590433e5d&id=135866259789625
January 29, 201312 yr Transformer Station is set to transform Cleveland's art scene and spur growth in Ohio City Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer By Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer on January 28, 2013 at 7:55 PM, updated January 28, 2013 at 8:16 PM At one time, the Transformer Station at 1460 West 29th Street in Ohio City powered streetcars that crossed the Detroit-Superior Bridge. When it opens Friday as Cleveland’s newest high-level exhibit space for art, it will build cultural connections across the city and become the latest example of art as an economic development tool. “It’s a huge deal,” said Eric Wobser, executive director of Ohio City Inc., the area’s community development organization. “The fact they [bidwells and museum] chose to do this here in this corner of Ohio City is a testament to the organic vibrancy that’s been created in the neighborhood and a legitimating factor for the future.” http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2013/01/transformer_station_is_set_to.html
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