The boarded up area shown in the photo is the back of the flying fig where the kitchen is located.

Wow, Sunday Market at Hingetown was awesome yesterday. Incredible vendors and an amazing street vibe. Just the food alone made it a really special event. I believe the next one is set for June 22. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great concept by Scott Rose: Brunch style food truck. How cool is that! www.offthegriddle.biz

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That looks awesome. I put the next date in my calendar. Thanks for posting that Paul.

 

Still some months away from opening

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^ Thanks Clueless this could be my favorite small-scale project in CLE.

It was a nice time.  It had a really good energy.

 

 

Looks really cool! Reminds me of a hip place called The Old Biscuit Mill in Cape Town, SA when I was studying there. I'll definitely have to stop by some time.

Really good news: sounds like RTA has softened its stance about the Rotary Club's proposal to turn the unused side of the Red Line viaduct into a pedestrian/bike trail.  Still lots of money to be raised, but if RTA votes yes, the Red Line Greenway will be one step closer to happening: http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2014/06/the_rotary_clubs_red_line_gree.html

Really good news: sounds like RTA has softened its stance about the Rotary Club's proposal to turn the unused side of the Red Line viaduct into a pedestrian/bike trail.  Still lots of money to be raised, but if RTA votes yes, the Red Line Greenway will be one step closer to happening: http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2014/06/the_rotary_clubs_red_line_gree.html

 

When I was little, my dad used to take us across the bridge when he was working at the W 25th station. I remember it being awesome, not only for the views, but also to see the trains pass by so closely.

^"to take us across the bridge".

 

was there a pedestrian path at one time or do you mean while on a train?

^"to take us across the bridge".

 

was there a pedestrian path at one time or do you mean while on a train?

 

Neither haha. Jump across the tracks from the platform and walk along the grass

Cleveland City Council OK's parking lot move to help planned Great Lakes Brewing Company expansion

CLEVELAND, Ohio – Great Lakes Brewing Company plans to expand within the next year, Cleveland's economic development director said during a city council committee meeting Monday morning.

 

The topic came up as a council committee discussed a move granting an option, if certain conditions are met, to sell a share of a city-owned parking lot to Ohio City Inc., the neighborhood community development organization.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/index.ssf/2014/06/clevleand_city_council_oks_par.html#incart_river_default

 

Does anyone know details regarding the expansion?  How big is "fairly large?"

I support anything that helps them get beer to more of the East Coast!

I wish the "Hingetown" monitor would be dropped and it would all be called Ohio City.  That section could always be called "Northern Ohio City."  Does anyone else out there feel this should be considered and linked completely with Ohio City in people's minds?  As far as I know there's just "Georgetown," "German Village," etc.  -  at least as far as most people are concerned.  In other words,  I want people to think of "Ohio City" as including and getting credit and recognition for this enclave north as Franklin, if that's what some consider a border.

The Hingetown name is not real appealing to me but it does quickly identify that corner.  If we didn't say Hingetown we would say "by Mariners Landing" or just "by" the xx street intersection.

 

The popular areas of Ohio City are known to most, but that strip is likely not since it's not in the direct path of people coming in from the N or S to get to 25th. 

 

Was at Edgewater Live last night and this couple was walking to the car.  Woman excitedly says "and now we CAN go to DINNER in Ohio CITY".  I think they came in from outside the city proper to hang out was my guess and those are the sorts of people that are not going to know where "Hingetown" is without the name.

 

 

Yeah I'm not really a fan of Hingetown either

For accuracy, is "Hingetown" an official neighborhood (or sub nabe or District)? 

 

I just asked two cousins, and their young adult children, where "Hingetown" was located.  None have ever heard of it.  These are fairly well educated people that were born and raised in Clark-Fulton, attended Lincoln-West and now live in Tremont or Ohio City. 

Hard to believe they wouldn't have heard of it it they live in Ohio City or Tremont.

Hingetown is the name created by the developer of that building and the old firehouse across the street that houses Rising Star and Urban Orchid.  It's just marketing.

I actually really like the hingetown name. I wish Cleveland had more sub-neighborhoods. For example, look at a city like Pittsburgh which is much smaller in size than Cleveland (land-wise) but has over double the amount of designated neighborhoods. I wish we could break up our large swaths of neighborhoods into many more smaller sub-neighborhoods. Some examples (Slavic Village, Broadway, Waterloo, Little Italy, Hingetown, SOLO, Scranton, etc)

Hard to believe they wouldn't have heard of it it they live in Ohio City or Tremont.

 

I asked them where this neighborhood was, they never heard of it.

 

Hingetown is the name created by the developer of that building and the old firehouse across the street that houses Rising Star and Urban Orchid.  It's just marketing.

Now, I understand why they haven't heard of this "neighborhood".

I actually really like the hingetown name. I wish Cleveland had more sub-neighborhoods. For example, look at a city like Pittsburgh which is much smaller in size than Cleveland (land-wise) but has over double the amount of designated neighborhoods. I wish we could break up our large swaths of neighborhoods into many more smaller sub-neighborhoods. Some examples (Slavic Village, Broadway, Waterloo, Little Italy, Hingetown, SOLO, Scranton, etc)

 

"Designer names" don't add or subtract from the quality of a neighborhood.  Personally, I think it's just a Real Estate gimmick.  Especially, in neighborhoods that were ethnic, impoverish or not previously affordable, in order to make white people feel comfortable.

I actually really like the hingetown name. I wish Cleveland had more sub-neighborhoods. For example, look at a city like Pittsburgh which is much smaller in size than Cleveland (land-wise) but has over double the amount of designated neighborhoods. I wish we could break up our large swaths of neighborhoods into many more smaller sub-neighborhoods. Some examples (Slavic Village, Broadway, Waterloo, Little Italy, Hingetown, SOLO, Scranton, etc)

 

Pittsburgh is denser in the core and has a far more interesting topography which creates different neighborhoods. Further away from the core you see larger neighborhoods like in Cleveland. Cleveland is relatively flat and neighborhoods blend together. A large chunk of the middle ring westside neighborhoods could basically be one larger neighborhood just as most of southeast Cleveland could essentially be one larger neighborhood.

Hingetown is the name created by the developer of that building and the old firehouse across the street that houses Rising Star and Urban Orchid.  It's just marketing.

Exactly.  Prior to two years ago, I had never heard of it.  I don't think it recognized by the city as a neighborhood, is it?  What are it boundaries?

If not for this site I would have never heard of it and have never heard it being used outside of this website. Im not surprised MTS's family havent heard of it.

Hello everyone, I have finally decided to put in my two cent by joining the ongoing conversations concerning Urban Ohio and possibly other conversations as I feel a  need too, but have been a guest for a few years.

 

When it comes to neighborhood's and what they are, or are not called, and their boundaries, I think it would be best to say their in different neighborhoods of Cleveland, there are sub-neighborhoods. One example is the neighborhood I live in, Brooklyn Center. Most people in the Brooklyn Center neighborhood, say there are two "sub" neighborhoods. One is Southwest Brooklyn Center, and the other being Archwood/Denison. But both are a part of the Brooklyn Center neighborhood as a whole.

 

This would also apply to Ohio City, as Market Square, and Hingetown are both  a part of Ohio City as a whole. And there are many other parts of Cleveland that could be used as examples also.

 

Now when someone makes mention of let's say the Marier Apts going up at W. 32nd and Detroit, I thing of the project as being in Ohio City, but I also think of the project as being in the Hingetown section of Ohio City.

 

There is one sub neighborhood that I don't agree is a part of Tremont, and that is Duck Island. Having had family live there for years, and knowing the owner's of the former HAAB's Bakery, almost everyone in Duck Island has mostly felt they were a part of Ohio City, not Tremont. The reason being most of the people in the Duck Island area of Cleveland have always felt Tremont ended at the Abbey Ave Bridge.

Slightly off-topic: When I tell people where I live - Newburgh Heights - I follow it up by saying its a suburb of Tremont

Slightly off-topic: When I tell people where I live - Newburgh Heights - I follow it up by saying its a suburb of Tremont

 

LMAO!

Time will tell whether the name Hingetown will stick, but I agree with yo to the CLE that we could use more district/sub-nabe names. Ohio City is about 2 square miles, so I'd say we could stand to have another level down to distinguish w 44 and Detroit from West 28 and Lorain, for instance.

 

It's certainly not the first district identity that has been debated here but ultimately stuck ... We had similar discussions when both Asiatown and Uptown started to get tossed around. I think part of the desire to create new cultural identities at the sub-nabe level is our historic approach to naming places solely by combining the names of two major streets or other landmark. Not the case in Ohio City, but I'd argue at this point, Gordon Square probably has a stronger brand than Detroit Shoreway and Asiatown a much stronger brand than the city's official designations of the area as Goodrich-Kirtland or Payne-Sterling.

edit: mods: I know the last several posts have been a derail, could you create a thread based on this a la cincy - http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=24853

 

 

Time will tell whether the name Hingetown will stick Not the case in Ohio City, but I'd argue at this point, Gordon Square probably has a stronger brand than Detroit Shoreway and Asiatown a much stronger brand than the city's official designations of the area as Goodrich-Kirtland or Payne-Sterling.

 

Definitely agree with you on that point. City of cleveland planning officially has 'statistical planning areas' (36!) that are described by the city to be functionally equivalent 'neighborhoods'.

 

In several cases (corlett, jefferson, goodrich-kirtland, Euclid-Green), the names appear in only city planning documents.

 

Others (fairfax, Cuddell) have more use and identity as a neighborhood: they're used by the CDCs and in the names of parks/Rec Centers/Public Libraries, maybe a local business or 2. (The level that they're used by local businesses, stakeholders, and residents vary).

 

Then, I'd argue there's a 3rd tier, others on that list (mount pleasant, hough, ohio city, old brooklyn, west park, tremont, collinwood) are extremely popular, used in the name of local businesses or stakeholders (churches, local non-profits),  have a lot of signage in the area that identify the neighborhood as itself, and residents identify as being from there.

 

As for Hingetown, I'm not a fan of the name itself (aesthetically, like 'hingetown?') but understand its functionality and Graham's motivation for it. North of Lutheran Hospital unfortunately still has a stigma (I am not saying that it is justified) of being unsafe. Instead of strongly tying in with Ohio City, he decided to create a new name (to fight the stigma) and perhaps he thought it was OC was too geographically large and it needed a sub neighborhood (I could agree with the latter point).

 

A single business owner creating the neighborhood's name isn't the healthiest to do (did he consult any other local stakeholders? the residents, other businesses in the area?) I've seen the name used so far by Ohio City's twitter and coolcleveland: that's about it. The fact that it is very uniquely positioned: right across from the DS Bridge and leading to downtown is really the only unique characteristic that I see it distinct from the rest of Ohio City.

 

With regards to defining neighborhoods; geographical features are certainly an influence but it is not the only one. (They also act as borders; for example, the wide cliff between Brooklyn Centre and Old Brooklyn). Housing stock/age, businesses, other establishments that are unique to an area are also key influences. Most importantly, the residents of these neighborhoods - what should be the largest influence to determine a neighborhood's name, aren't using the names or self-identify as residents of that neighborhood.

 

This could go in various threads but I will leave it here.

 

Columbus Road is a path for growth

June 22. 2014 4:30AM

By STAN BULLARD

 

 

Sam McNulty plans to build a townhouse for himself as part of a residential development he's working on at Columbus Road and Abbey Avenue. He bought the long-empty, gravel-covered site earlier this year because it's less than a five-minute walk from the office next to the West Side Market where McNulty and his partners run five nearby beer-centric businesses.

Brian and Muriel Storrie have bought a three-story townhouse that is under construction on the slope of Columbus west of the bridge. For now, it will be a getaway location from their home in Little Rock, Ark. Later it will be a full-time home after Brian Storrie eases into retirement from college teaching. Such disparate motivations are starting to help rejuvenate Columbus Road, which has played a central role in Cleveland historically but has been bypassed by more recent redevelopment action nearby in the Flats and adjoining city neighborhoods and downtown.

But now, Columbus Road — best known now for being the home of Hooples bar and the pioneering Irishtown Bend townhouses from the early 2000s, as well as a handful of frame homes and old industrial buildings — is starting to get its turn at a second act. Driving the momentum is its walking- and bike-riding distance to the popular, housing-short Tremont and Ohio City neighborhoods and the West Side Market; its proximity to downtown attractions; and a growing number of recreation options, including rowing on the Cuyahoga River. David Sharkey, a partner in Cleveland-based Civic Builders, which is constructing the home for the Storries as part of its Columbus Hill project, sees the street as a key crossroads.

“It's in the middle of everything and the middle of nowhere at the same time,” Sharkey said, thanks to tree-covered slopes that mask views of the West Side in the summer.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20140622/SUB1/306229973?template=mobile&X-IgnoreUserAgent=1

 

 

 

 

 

 

^I was wondering if McNulty had purchased that lot.  I saw him touring the site with a couple guys in suits about 10 days ago.  It's fantastic news for Duck Island that he plans a residential development on this site!

Looks like an Ohio City apartment building was one of the state historic preservation tax credit winners just announced today:

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2014/06/garfield_building_apartments_t.html

 

The Guernsey Apartment Building in Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood. The 25-unit apartment building won a tax credit of $248,375, to assist with a $1.7 million renovation.

 

For those (like me) who didn't know it by name, this is the building in question: http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/15996835/2836-Franklin-Boulevard-Cleveland-OH/

 

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2014/06262014/index.php

 

Cleveland Landmarks Commission

AGENDA - June 26, 2014

 

Hubbard Cooke Building

2220 Superior Viaduct

Renovation

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2014/06262014/index.php

 

Cleveland Landmarks Commission

AGENDA - June 26, 2014

 

Market Square Historic District

Culinary Arts Building 1849 West 24th Street

Addition and renovation for Market Garden Production Brewery

Phase I

 

 

 

This is awesome!

Is this the "palace of fermentation" that McNulty has proposed?

Great example of re-purposing!

^^^The Hubbard Cooke building is an amazing structure; glad to see its planned rehab.  Just looking at its narrow facade you don't immediately realize how deep and huge it is dropping down the steep grade.

Two new single family houses South of Lorain (W26th & Keene Ct.) that the design studio I work for is currently working on.  LPM Real Estate out of Lakewood is the developer.  Two vacant houses were demolished earlier this year to accommodate them and we're hoping to break ground later this summer. 

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Spaces unveils preliminary design for proposed new home in Ohio City's Hingetown (slideshow)

 

"A sheath of bright, chartreuse-colored aluminum panels would wrap the northwest corner of the proposed new home of Spaces gallery in a former industrial building in Ohio City, according to the latest renderings released by the cultural non-profit.

While raising $1.5 million to make the gallery's relocation possible, the organization is also planning for renovations to its proposed new home in Ohio City's Hingetown neighborhood."

 

http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2014/07/spaces_reveals_design_for_prop.html#incart_river_default

This is fantastic.  Like how the PD is using "Hingetown".

 

Anyways, hopefully this eventually leads to some movement on thos parcels on SE corner of 25th and Detroit.  Talk about a crappy "welcome to Ohio City" eyesore when people come in from the North off the Shoreway.  Clean that corner up and post a nice sign.

 

 

At this time I think the branding is wrong.  If we had some background or a media package on "Hingetown" that would help.

Well I thought I would email the contact but there appears to be none.

 

Nice website there buddy.

 

http://hingetown.com/

 

 

Well I thought I would email the contact but there appears to be none.

 

Nice website there buddy.

 

http://hingetown.com/

 

 

I sometimes wonder if websites are passe anymore. Try their facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/Hingetown

Well I thought I would email the contact but there appears to be none.

 

Nice website there buddy.

 

http://hingetown.com/

 

 

I sometimes wonder if websites are passe anymore. Try their facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/Hingetown

 

Nope, not passe, just bad design. 

 

I don't do Facebook.  Maybe a user here could post and direct the owner to this thread so we could get some answers.

 

 

 

Contact information should be a mandatory element for all sites.

 

 

Well I thought I would email the contact but there appears to be none.

 

Nice website there buddy.

 

http://hingetown.com/

 

 

Well I thought I would email the contact but there appears to be none.

 

Nice website there buddy.

 

http://hingetown.com/

 

 

I sometimes wonder if websites are passe anymore. Try their facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/Hingetown

 

What does this tell me about this "owner created" district? Not a damn thing!  Only that someone came up with a name and hash tag

 

I think these are fair and reasonable questions.

[*]What is Hingetown?

[*]Why the name "Hingetown"?

[*]What relation does "Hingetown" have to the greater Ohio City neighborhood?

[*]Who are the stake holders?  (Do the city, CDC, Real Estate developers, business owners and residents, etc. agree this area should be named as such?)

[*]What are the exact borders of "Hingetown"?

Can those be answered by reading the website you provided or Facebook?

 

As a PR/Communications/Marketing person, I'm all for branding, but has this moniker been executed properly?  I'm all for thinking outside the box, but where can anyone find any concrete information about Hingetown?  I say this because the Freshwater Cleveland blog post was more informative than the "Hingetown" website and Facebook Page.

Well I thought I would email the contact but there appears to be none.

 

Nice website there buddy.

 

http://hingetown.com/

 

 

I sometimes wonder if websites are passe anymore. Try their facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/Hingetown

 

Nope, not passe, just bad design. 

 

I don't do Facebook.  Maybe a user here could post and direct the owner to this thread so we could get some answers.

 

Contact information should be a mandatory element for all sites.

 

Contact Info

Phone (216) 367-2928

Email [email protected]

 

Thanks Surf.

 

Done, now we wait.