Got a question... Why does a Pedestrian Retail Overlay district (highlighted in puke green) exist at the southeast corner of Detroit Avenue and West 25th? I thought a park was being considered for this site?

 

And the bigger question... Why does the PRO extend all the way down the unstable hillside to Riverbed Street?

 

There's something brewing on Vega Avenue in #CLE's Ohio City, where Leisy Brewing once stood: http://t.co/C3xM6wzB8s http://t.co/4MsneFX1jR

So that Linda's Superette building is supposed to be demolished and the higher and better use proposed is...a more rounded street corner.

^ Are you talking about the picture from earlier in the thread? That's from an older proposal.

Found this slide - but it was from a 2010 presentation. Perhaps this was removed since then.

 

Yes, this is what I was referring to.. sorry didn't realize the magnitude of this thread when I responded!

This project is going to be a slam dunk.  It's bold and really pushes the boundaries of gentrification on the edge of downtown.  I think there is so much upside for this area as the City evolves, if they can make the numbers work with base rents now, it will be even better in the near future

 

Be careful with that "G" word.

 

Exciting stuff though.

 

Also, not sure if anyone saw this (particularly since the G word was floated around on the last page), but here is a link to Forest City Square's LIHTC proposal. They've definitely invested a lot in the design..but their costs may be high, and they didn't get Frank Jackson's priority.

 

https://ohiohome.org/lihtc/proposals/2015/New%20Units%20-%20Urban/The%20Forest%20City%20Square%20Apartments.pdf

 

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Side note, Leisy Brewing on Vega is set to become Gypsy Brewing. So that's what was behind the Ohio City brew farm LLC..

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2015/03/leisy_brewing_co_building_will.html

 

Sad to see what that building once looked like, but exciting to see what is left get rehabed and generate 50 jobs for the SoLo neighborhood.

I have a random question that pertains to this thread. So I know the new Max Hayes high is opening this fall, and I originally thought the old site was going to be redeveloped with storefronts, apts, etc. However, now, according to the Plain Dealer, the school district is aiming to build a new high school at that site unless they find somewhere more suitable? Does anyone on the inside have any insight on what is going on here? I really hope they are not going to waste that prime piece of real estate for a damn school. 

How about a mid-rise (5-10 stories) West Side High School at the Max Hayes site? If it's supposed to have a tech- and project-based curriculum and mimic work experiences, why not have the school building be designed more like a workplace? Then the remaining land could be sold and developed.

 

Here's the article YO to the CLE referenced....

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/03/clevelands_west_side_high_school_shuffle_bard_finds_a_permanent_home_new_tech_west_a_challenging_one.html

 

And included an embedded link to an older article about the old Max Hayes....

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/02/new_west_side_high_school_and.html

^ If New Tech West decides to build a school at the Max Hayes site, it would be stupid to not do that. The student body is smaller than Max Hayes, and that site on Detroit is already larger than it needs to be for an urban high school.

Some infill housing south of Lorain

 

9:30 Ward 3

Calendar No. 15-51: 2100 Fulton Road Joe Cimperman

8 Notices

B.R. Knez Construction, owner, proposes to erect a 20’ x 45’ and 2 story frame single family

residence on a 30’ x 105’ lot in a B1 Two-Family Residential District. The owner appeals for relief

from the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances:

1. Section 355.04(b) which states that the maximum gross floor area allowed is 1,545 square

feet and 1800 square feet are proposed.

2. Section 357.09(b)(2)(A) which states the required distance from a main building on an

adjoining lot is 10 feet and 6 feet 6 inches are proposed.

3. Section 357.09(b)(2)(B) which states that the required interior side yard is 7 feet 6 inches and

5 feet are proposed. (Filed March 6, 2015)

 

 

9:30 Ward 3

Calendar No. 15-52: 2156 West 41st Street Joe Cimperman

6 Notices

B.R. Knez Construction, owner, proposes to erect a 20’ x 45’ and 2 story frame single family

residence in a B1 Two-Family Residential District. The owner appeals for relief from the following

sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances:

1. Section 355.04(b) which states that the maximum gross floor area allowed is 1,230 square

feet and 1800 square feet are proposed.

2. Section 357.09(b)(2)(A) which states the required distance from a main building on an

adjoining lot is 10 feet and 6 feet 6 inches are proposed.

3. Section 357.09(b)(2)(B) which states that the required interior side yard is 7 feet 6 inches and

5 feet are proposed. (Filed March 6, 2015)

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2015/crr04-13-2015.pdf

 

The builder seems to be heavy into the suburban stuff but also has done some urban infill:

http://www.knez.net/

 

They actually just won "best architectural design under 2,500 square feet and best urban infill development" by the Home Builders Association for an infill project in Ohio City.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/03/check_out_award-winning_homes.html

Ohio City Historic District: Case 15-025

3122 Franklin Boulevard

New construction of townhouses

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2015/04092015/index.php

 

 

Nice! Once completed, three of the four corners will be built up to the street.

A much better site plan than its twin on Bridge Ave.  Nice to see [almost] all the garage doors relegated to the central court.

Does anyone know if the furniture store at 25th and Chatham is indeed closing, and if so what the plan is for that space?

FYI. This is a retail listing for the building with the green "For Lease" sign on it......

 

CLEVELAND – STEELMAN BUILDING

http://www.passovgroup.com/listings/cleveland-steelman-building/

 

^ As someone who spends a lot of time in Jukebox (the bar right across from that building), I've always thought that that building has some serious potential. My friends and I think it would be a cool industrial-themed club/performance space.

 

Now that I've typed that, I realize I must sound like a huge hipster.

^ As someone who spends a lot of time in Jukebox (the bar right across from that building), I've always thought that that building has some serious potential. My friends and I think it would be a cool industrial-themed club/performance space.

 

Now that I've typed that, I realize I must sound like a huge hipster.

 

Too bad the current owner is the owner. Now if the Onion wanted to do a piece on a stereotypically greedy, back-stabbing and ridiculously demanding real estate speculator...

Tax bills go to the C/O THE CHESLER GROUP, INC. THE VAN ROY BUILDING, LLC, 9639 Kinsman Rd, Novelty, OH 44073-0001

 

http://cheslergroup.com/our-properties/steelman-building/

 

Love how none of the men are smiling in their staff photos:

 

http://cheslergroup.com/staff/

That was the building Spaces Gallery was going into. But cancelled those plans...

 

http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2014/09/spaces_announces_lease_deal_is.html

Love how none of the men are smiling in their staff photos:

http://cheslergroup.com/staff/

 

And one of those is VP Daniel Budish, as in the son of Armond Budish...that hire is gonna pay off more than once, just saying.

^ As someone who spends a lot of time in Jukebox (the bar right across from that building), I've always thought that that building has some serious potential. My friends and I think it would be a cool industrial-themed club/performance space.

 

Now that I've typed that, I realize I must sound like a huge hipster.

 

Right up 29th from the Cleveland Vibrator Company.  Really.

 

Looks more like an warehouse/industrial site still, depending on its history.  What's been in there before will be huge.  Refurbed in 1957.

 

But only 8 "parking spaces" in all that side space???    I'd be concerned about anything underground over there.

 

Love how none of the men are smiling in their staff photos:

http://cheslergroup.com/staff/

 

And one of those is VP Daniel Budish, as in the son of Armond Budish...that hire is gonna pay off more than once, just saying.

 

I was going to post a "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" video, but that would have to be from "We Won't Get Fooled Again" and since this is Cuyahoga County, I doubt that....

The Budishes are wonderful people. Give them the benefit of the doubt.

But only 8 "parking spaces" in all that side space???    I'd be concerned about anything underground over there.

 

Where are you getting 8 parking spaces? This link shows 45 parking spaces. http://www.passovgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Cleveland-Steelman-Building-Site-Plan.pdf

But only 8 "parking spaces" in all that side space???    I'd be concerned about anything underground over there.

 

Where are you getting 8 parking spaces? This link shows 45 parking spaces. http://www.passovgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Cleveland-Steelman-Building-Site-Plan.pdf

 

http://www.terrycoyne.com/uploads_pdf/CHESLER_Detroit2885_20120605%281311%29%20-%20pdf_Fact%20Sheet.pdf

^Agree with Tbideon. I know Daniel personally, and he's a great guy.

Certainly is a large project that would require many different landowners to sell their property to the developer.

 

And what if the one remaining landowner wanted nearly a million dollars for his property...

 

For others, zoom in and click on parcels in the affected area using the CPC's GIS to see who that is.....

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/gis/cpc/basemap.jsp?command=larger

Herb'n Twine Sandwich Co. to Open in Ohio City

 

By mid-June, Herb'n Twine Sandwich Co. is expected to open at 4309 Lorain Avenue, in the storefront space adjacent to Bloom & Clover Wax Studio.

 

Owner Brendon Messina, currently a sous chef at Rockefeller’s in Cleveland Heights, describes the shop as a quick-serve stop for local residents, commercial tenants, and anybody else looking for a wholesome, delicious lunch or dinner.

 

“There are a lot of places to sit down and eat in Ohio City, but there aren’t a lot of grab-and-go spots,” he explains.

 

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/04/27/herbn-twine-sandwich-co-to-open-in-ohio-city

^ That's good news. I really think that the stretch of Lorain between W. 44 and Fulton is going to be one of the next major focuses of development. Within the past year or so, that area gained: Platform Beer (as well as the renovation of the place next door), the home brew shop across the street, and The Grocery up the street.

I always liked the stretch of Lorain. Good bones, even if frayed around the edges.

I've always thought that building is absolutely gorgeous!

 

IIRC, that used to be the Pit.

Got this in my email today.  Looks to be opening this weekend on the north side of Lorain Avenue between Fulton & Randall (w41st)  http://canopy-collective.com/

Love how bright it is!

I've always thought that building is absolutely gorgeous!

 

IIRC, that used to be the Pit.

 

It was the legendary Speak In Tongues before that

I noticed the public housing building around 1529-1535 West 25th Street is boarded up. Are they tearing it down?

Got this in my email today.  Looks to be opening this weekend on the north side of Lorain Avenue between Fulton & Randall (w41st)  http://canopy-collective.com/

 

This looks really nice... Google Street Views reveals that this particular building was built either in/or between 1892 and 1896.  It's part of an interesting, in-tact group of historic storefront blocks including the Fridrich Bicycle store... Fridrich is obviously a local institution and resource, but I sure wish it's building were spiffed up a bit because that last time I was by there it looked pretty raggedy.

I noticed the public housing building around 1529-1535 West 25th Street is boarded up. Are they tearing it down?

Hopefully lol.

The master plan for that area shows some kind of mixed-income development there. I vaguely remember seeing a more recent plan for some kind of green space there until the hillside is stabilized but I can't find the image. I think that is more likely in the short-term.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/cwp/other/Detroit_Ave_East.pdf

^ That master plan is pretty "pie-in-the-sky" (as most master plans are). I highly doubt we'll ever see the Ohio City Farm land developed into mixed use, and same with all the other proposed mixed use on that side of W. 25. As far as I know, the City wants all that land east of W 25 and north of Riverview to be converted into public green space. Even after the hillside is stabilized, most think it's still risky to build there. I think Snavely is really trying to push for the stabilization, because public green space would positively impact the proposed development at W 25 and Detroit. It would also increase the value of all the land west of W 25, since it would open up some very nice views.

^All moot now, but FYI, that plan wasn't so much pie in the sky as it was a victim of the soil and slope conditions.  There was actually a developer pretty ready to build that mixed income project with some serious federal subsidies.  You can read all about it waaaaaaaay upthread.

 

All to say, that master plan is out of date and should just be ignored even more than most non-developer master plans.

Hopefully it doesn't stay green space for long. Here is a random address on Bridge about a 10 minute walk to Nano Brew. About a third of the space bounded by a 10 minute walk is either unbuildable or single-use commercial, like Lutheran and St. Ignatius. Greenspace along West 25th would be a waste of space, IMO.

 

We are probably years away from running out of infill space. Hopefully by then the hillside is stabilized permanently for residential construction.

Motorcycle-gear store brings together #CLE designer, Youngstown @harleydavidson dealer, founders of @ironandair: http://t.co/UdHOzl5rjj

New condo building infill

 

CONCEPT PLAN

1.

Ohio City Historic District: Case 15-038

3707 Clinton Avenue

New construction of condominiums

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2015/05152015/index.php

 

Most of those OC condos are ugly in design.  These are no exception.

Man, we've really made it.  New condo construction and UO is like "meh."

And here I was, about to say that I thought the design looked pretty solid. Of course it depends on the quality of the materials, but I think it will fit in quite well.

The master plan for that area shows some kind of mixed-income development there. I vaguely remember seeing a more recent plan for some kind of green space there until the hillside is stabilized but I can't find the image. I think that is more likely in the short-term.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/cwp/other/Detroit_Ave_East.pdf

 

That's a cool planning document but it's already out of date.  The east side of W. 25th from Detroit to Franklin is going to become parkland, taken over by the Metroparks.  They are already in negotiations with the land holders for eminent domain.  Of course they need about $50 million to stabilize the hillside before it becomes a park, but long story short, nothing is getting built on that section of land.  The most valuable building is the old CMHA headquarters, which is actually a very nice building, and has been actively on the market for several years.  Nobody will buy it at any price because of the slope issues.

And here I was, about to say that I thought the design looked pretty solid. Of course it depends on the quality of the materials, but I think it will fit in quite well.

 

I would suggest a walk by the Knez homes under construction at the corner of John and West 44th in Ohio City to see an example of the quality you can expect.

 

 

On the same Landmarks Commission agenda is this project.....

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2015/05152015/index.php

 

LANDMARKS COMMISSION

CITY HALL - ROOM 514 - 9:00 AM

AGENDA - May 15, 2015

 

Ohio City Historic District: Case 15-036

Rhodes House 2905 Franklin Boulevard

Sanford House 2843 Franklin Boulevard

Renovation for The Welcome House